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E Cape ANC slams Zille comments

2012-03-24 13:46

Johannesburg - Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille's reference to Eastern Cape pupils who flocked to the Western Cape for a better education as refugees was "inhumane", the Eastern Cape ANC said on Saturday.

"This... inhumane statement coupled with unfair labelling against school children studying in the Western Cape are further testament to the fact that the DA thinks Western Cape is a place for whites only," provincial spokesperson Mlibo Qoboshiyane said in a statement.

"If there has ever been a need for proof that the liberation struggle for freedom in South Africa was incomplete, this must be one such."

The DA leader sparked a war on social networking sight Twitter on Tuesday as many users were angered by her use of the word "refugee".
However, Zille remained firm and defended herself throughout the day.

Her statement was in reference to a protest in Grabouw over overcrowding at a local school.

The DA shifted the blame to the department of public works' continuous delays in approving alternative land to build additional school buildings in the area.

Qoboshiyane said Zille's comments were inspired by "her narrow attempt to score cheap political points".

"Zille ignored the fact that there are more people from the Eastern Cape relocating to provinces like Gauteng, Kwa-Zulu Natal and Mpumalanga. This they do because they are free to do so," he said.

"We are glad that this latest statement evinces Zille's true colours, which are contrary to her false claims that they embraced Comrade Nelson Mandela's views."

On Wednesday African National Congress national spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said Zille's comment was "racist" and should not be tolerated.
"Zille's racist statement underpins the DA's policy of exclusionism of blacks," he said.

"She will never say the same thing about whites who relocate from one area of the country to the Western Cape or even those who relocate from other countries to the Western Cape."

Comments
  • Geronimo - 2012-03-24 13:53

    I cannot for the life of me see Zille's comments as racist in any way. The ANC's reaction to this - the race card - appears to be ann attempt to divert attention from their own failings. Viva Helen Zille, viva! Keep on speaking the truth! Keep on exposing ANC incompetence!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-24 14:00

      No, the ANC are simply using her remark, twisting the meaning to people who are English 3rd language, and refusing to even talk about the shambles that the EC is. Even is Helen was more racist than Malema, it still does not justify the Eastern Cape... a FAILED ANC Province.

      marisa.cronje - 2012-03-24 14:04

      well it certainly aint as racists as 'shoot the boer'

      amananga - 2012-03-24 14:16

      When Gcobani Bobo was referred in rugby circles as Bobejaan it was a big joke but remained racist. So if it ammuses you it can't be racist but if it offends you, it is likely to do so along racial lines. I don't see Zille as racist but the comment was out of line.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-24 14:21

      Then, Amananga, you need a dictionary.

      Georg - 2012-03-24 14:24

      Fact is the EC piepols are fleeing their dysfunctional province at the rate of 17,000 per month. Planning for schools etc. with such an influx is nigh impossible. Zille is right: In a way they are "refugees" let down by their provincial government which is, like all the others except the WC, rotten, incompetent and corrupt to the core. Time to face the truth for the ANC trolls.

      Andres - 2012-03-24 14:36

      Whilst the ANC states the word "refugee' is inhumane, the DA states failed education and a collapsing province is inhumane... So who you going to support with a clear conscience?

      Georg - 2012-03-24 14:56

      What is really hurting the country is the fact that in 1994 competent white teachers were sidelined because of their race - instead of using them to help right the wrongs of Bantu education. Training colleges where shut down. SETAS etc. were introduced, corruptly managed and billions were squandered. The whole school system was dumbed down, not improved - at the peril of matriculants seeking work and further education. We can only improve the country if the majority starts taking off their tinted glasses and see and admit the facts as they are. And what goes for education goes for all the other state and para-statal institutions. Richard Mdluli - another corrupt cadre (go Google) - is now in line for the next police chief. He suits the bill like Selebi and Cele before him. Cry the beloved country. Indeed.

      Koos - 2012-03-24 18:19

      @amananga: I remember that but you are a moron. That came out when Bobo was photographed next to Jantjies from the back and at the angle of the photo it read Bobo-Jantjie.... err guess the camera could have been racist.

      Ad - 2012-03-24 22:09

      Its easier to cry foul than to defend the real crisis the EC faces with their education.

  • Hunter - 2012-03-24 13:53

    If her comment was racist, they should take her to court.

      Shirley - 2012-03-24 14:03

      Scholars in the Eastern Cape should take the anc to court!

      Templeton - 2012-03-24 15:34

      And they should ask the Afriforum for assistance.

      Koos - 2012-03-24 18:20

      ... if they could read....

  • Glyn - 2012-03-24 13:55

    And the score is.... Zille - 1 / anc -0

      mholthuysen - 2012-03-24 14:45

      I think the score is now: Zille 995 and the ANC -10

      Refugee - 2012-03-24 14:47

      you must be a fool not to see that Zille is the 1 losing here because she needs the "Refugee" vote in 2014,

      bluzulu - 2012-03-24 16:09

      Zille is just another political antagonist,

      wo0two0t - 2012-03-25 11:21

      Refugee - there are far to many blind fools in SA for the ANC to loose power. You may as well go with the flow as SA is screwed.

      Christopher - 2012-03-26 14:32

      But she is winning!!

  • Peek - 2012-03-24 14:01

    hahaha ... at the ANC, you know when you hit a nerve, it's when they try to throw the race card again. They can't even get politics right. Bunch of id-10-ts.

      malcolm.molver - 2012-03-24 14:10

      I agree! You know you're right when they label you a racist. Damn we have some idiots in government. Bunch of clowns! It's sad that the majority is too ignorant to see that.

  • Shirley - 2012-03-24 14:01

    Anc/Eastern Cape-GROW up,stop looking for racism where ther isnt any and find a dictionary to give you the correct meaning of the word "inhumane". The only inhumane thing is the fact the rulers of E.Cape have allowed scholars to decline daily in their education!!!!! Your inhumanity is sickening with all the corruption and lack of care for the future of this country! Stop blame shifting,step up and serve the people who voted for you!!! But no, you continually try to remove attention from yourselves by playing the race card and semantics! I hope all anc leaders children have their education in E.Cape-then we will see a different reaction! Hypocrites!

  • Taetjo - 2012-03-24 14:01

    One thing the ANC is very good at is calling people racist. That's about the best thing they can do. The rest are just piss! They are useless, what a shameful party it is.

  • Debbie - 2012-03-24 14:02

    avatar Debbie - Just posted Report comment OR maybe she was pointing out a fact..ANC don not like facts...that the Education levels in the EC which is an ANC province is so poor that they have to flock to the WK a DA area to seek a good education, I do not remember her using the words black once...Stop playing the race card every time your short comings are pointed out and raise your education levels to an acceptable level, 30% pass rate is disgraceful and SA has become the laughing stock of the world, we are amongst the most poorly educated people in Africa, now that is humiliating! Pretending to educate the youth with a sub par educations which does not enable them to get a good job or prepare them for life is a farce! But maybe you count on people being uneducated so you do not lose your majority?

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-24 15:50

      But, But.................we got a 70.2% Matric pass rate at 30%. Amazing stuff this. We really are competing with the rest of the world.

  • sewsexy - 2012-03-24 14:07

    NO what is INHUMANE is you, the E.Cape ANC stealing the money that was meant for those same pupils - SHAME ON YOU - I cannot describe how angry I am, that you, the E.Cape ANC have the audacity to go public and say how "inhumane", Mrs Zille's comment was - if it wasnt so SAD, I would be laughing right now. You do not deserve to govern any province, let alone the E.Cape. STOP STEALING !!!!!

      Refugee - 2012-03-24 14:42

      we "refugees" will have the last say come 2014 , she kinda forget she need the "refugee" vote to take over western cape again, past two years she almost got me fooled but anyway thanks for showing us your true colours.........as for Malbo instead of waisting all this energy responding to Zille why dont you use it to fix EC

      Stirer - 2012-03-24 14:42

      What IS INHUMANE is that its happening - not that someone SAID its happening.

      Cameron - 2012-03-24 16:15

      Thats fine refugee..vote the anc back into power in the western cape, then there will be no good education system anywhere anymore...

      Tasmee - 2012-03-26 12:39

      @Refugee, why should the DA fix the mess of the ANC? Yes you will have the last say, and you and your people, your children will suffer the consequences of your vote! Its happening all over SA, just open your eyes and see. People like myself are laughing all the way, we can afford the luxury of a private school education for our kids, then we leave.....

  • Fanie - 2012-03-24 14:10

    ANC, you can't put out fires by blaming somebody or a party doing a great job. We all know you have failed the children in the EC. tThe leadership is rotten, most of the teachers are rotten; just look at the poor matric results; burning of schools; principles who stay away and teaches following suit. Please be man enough to own up to your faults. You can't call people racists or that the DA is white. people are not as dumb as you. they know what is going on.

  • Matthew Patrick - 2012-03-24 14:12

    The scary thing is that the minority of the population who see through the ANC's word-play have an education while the masses who don't will automatically revert to believing the ANC.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-24 14:12

    I'll tell you what is inhumane: ANC government officials (in the EC and elsewhere) filling their pockets while the people are deprived even of the basics. Of course "refugee" is the correct word to describe someone seeking refuge. The ANC just loves their racism. They think this will help them remain in "power". They think the people are stupid.

      Templeton - 2012-03-24 15:57

      I think they need Psychological counseling, it's like their minds are still Psychologically locked in the past. Anyone with the key ?

      wo0two0t - 2012-03-25 11:27

      Well their people are stupid clearly - they clearly don't understand what a democracy is.

  • Helen de Jager - 2012-03-24 14:15

    ANC, would you like some red noses, you bunch of clowns?! Quick! pull the 'race card' again seeing that you're desperately looking 4 it! How I wish the words 'struggle' and 'comrade' would be removed from the dictionary!!!! Get over yourselves and listen to what Zille's actually saying, for goodness sake.

  • Bertus - 2012-03-24 14:24

    Inhumane? Judging by the imminent failure of all our basic services (most of all water purification and sewerage management), I would say the ANC should rather focus on what's left to save than to waste its time focusing on the obvious failures its already encountered.

      Thapelo - 2012-03-24 14:37

      educated racist must be better than a uneducated racist or a racist is a racist. if so bunch of you above must be hipocrites.

      Bertus - 2012-03-24 15:19

      Erm, did I mention race in my comment? It's not about white or black, fact of the matter is we ALL are going to suffer if there isn't a turnaround in service delivery. Education will mean nothing without safety and health services and visa versa. Its the basics that are crumbling and the signs are just everywhere. How many service delivery protests were there the past week alone? People are getting fed up by fat cats plainly robbing them of the services needed for a working society.

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-24 15:56

      @Thapelo: Huh???

      Tasmee - 2012-03-26 12:44

      Gosh, cry racist ar every turn! People subconsiously still regard themselves as enslaved and inferior, thats why they see racism in everything! Please get over yourselves man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Werner - 2012-03-24 14:31

    Wow! What can one say to such utterances? It never seizes to amaze... A soap opera. The Bold and the Cheap-Shot-Takers...

  • Mark - 2012-03-24 14:33

    i am (for one), glad she used a word that sparks so much controversy. it has brought into light, the fact that little has been done in the eastern cape's education development situation. so those who want to scorn zilla as in humane. go ahead and do so. the more we do so, the more we forget that it is in humane to deny our children the basic need for education.

      Dave - 2012-03-25 04:50

      Mark you are correct my friend, that's the way I read it. She is trying to "SHAME" the government into taking action and improving conditions in these areas. The Eastern Cape is out of her control so she can only make statements that might help them. Thank God there are open minded people like you in SA.

  • Jessica - 2012-03-24 14:33

    The ANC find it impossible to debate on an intellectual level. When you provide a decent argument they resort to their default "RACE RACE RACE" to the ANC and all your supporters stop always playing the victim. It is pathetic and you are starting to seem incredibly weak and unable to take control of your own lives. Fact is that people are FLEEING from ANC ground to DA ground, because the ANC are incapable of running a country. The ANC brains are clouded by an obsession with race. Get over it and start acting more like a government and less like a circus.

  • Mavhungu Vincent - 2012-03-24 14:36

    Zille you are a racist nxa

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-24 14:44

      I know it must be embarrassing to admit that the ANC is failing and that the DA is servicing the people, who, by choice, have moved in multitudes from the ANC province, which they voted for, to the DA province, which they did not. However, she is not racist, she fought against apartheid whilst you were most probably in nappies. Shame on you, the people of the EC have spoken with their feet, if not with their vote.

      Ben - 2012-03-24 14:52

      Any proof of that. The A.N.C. used this argument to draw attention away from the fact that their education system is a total flop. Meanwhile Zille welcomed these refugees and built 30 additional schools to accommodate children from the Eastern Cape. I live here. I know.

      Nettie - 2012-03-24 15:03

      And you Sir is Non REFUGEE as it is clear that you are short of proper schooling and are ignorant with Me Zille's history. You should be ashamed for supporting the ANC who are more rasist plus unable to meet the needs of poor people thus force them to flee their homes to find better schools ext

      Templeton - 2012-03-24 15:12

      If Zille is racist. why don't you shut up and Build better Schools, Better Houses, Better Education,Better Health care. The masses will decide.

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-24 15:58

      @Templeton. Better potholes.

      Elton - 2012-03-25 09:16

      @ Templeton : She is. She is complaining the ANC is not. So, she is figthing for a better education for YOU, and you call her a racist? On the other and the ANC doesn't give a f$ck about your education... Unbelievable.

  • Riaan - 2012-03-24 14:37

    The only thing un-humane is that we need to be governed by simpletons and miscreants like this. These thingies shouldn't even be left unsupervised.

  • JohnnoBfree - 2012-03-24 14:37

    Here we go again! As soon as the ANC gets stumped up goes the race card thing. The fact of the matter is that the education in the EC is shocking. Not just the curriculum but the attitude of the teachers especially the rural areas where policing the schools is impossible. It is no wonder people are flocking to the WP. Helen Zille "you go girl"

  • Luviwe - 2012-03-24 14:41

    I think the ANC must look at themselves in the mirror in this case and ask, are doing the right thing to our children? if the answer is no, what can we do? Now they are clinging on the race issue to suit them wiyhout acknowledging the real problem and finding solution. Really the culture of learning and pride had evaporated to the lowest deegree. I'm an eastern Caper by the way and by the look of things I will have to be a refugee in another province. It is difficult to find a job here irrespective of your qualification if you don't know the right people at the right places. Let's admit the corruption is so rife here and that hampers development, which makes people refugees on another provinces where there's progress.

      Ben - 2012-03-24 14:55

      Thank you for being honest Luviwe. If more people are honest and speak openly about their problems there might be a chance of rectifying them. I cannot remember one instance where racism rectified any problem.

  • brainbowgold - 2012-03-24 14:41

    Why does the race card always have to be thrown on the table? Can't the government just deal with the facts and face the truth, in the best interest of improving the situation of our people?

  • Chris - 2012-03-24 14:43

    The point sir is that the Western Cape has made space for black students because you ANC appointments have denied them the right to a decent education! Get with the program boys!

  • Frank - 2012-03-24 14:43

    What could be more inhumane than the way the ANC governs the eastern cape and the rest of SA??

  • Refugee - 2012-03-24 14:56

    lol white people are blinded by their hatred for ANC and black people so much that they cant even see they stand to lose because of Zille comments.....fact is more than 90% of black people in the province originate from EC yet shes calling them names..to win western cape she needs the "refugee" vote. Just when black people where starting to believe in her she pulls out this stunt .......thanx Madam Zille you did ANC a huge favour

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-24 16:05

      How long will it take to get rid of the huge chip on your shoulder. Do you really think we all hate black people, rubbish, I do not give a flying fig who is flying the plane, as long as we are flying straight and true. Have you been to the Eastern Cape lately???

      Manu - 2012-03-24 16:21

      I have to agree. Politicians in Africa are generally not very smart. If this were Europe or the US the strategists would be scrambling to control the damage. Statements will be put out to the effect that "the person mispoke" or that "they are sorry for offence caused". But in Africa you get politicians coming out and saying, "Yes! I said that and I meant it and to hell with you if you don't like it ... BTW vote for me."

      denver.jantjies - 2012-03-24 16:39

      There is more coloured people in the Western Cape, the DA will win regardless of how u feel, and we as coloured people are not as easily fooled by what the ANC says and the racist card. They should remember those that were born after 1994 will also vote in the next election and with most of them having access to information the ANC should be the ones who should be afraid.

      Manu - 2012-03-24 16:51

      You are correct that there are many of you now. But with time the demographics of the country will even out. So not caring "what others think about what you say or do, or how you say it" is in the long term not viable strategy. It is to the benefit of all for politicians to learn to measure their words and avoid offending the electorate.

      Louisa - 2012-03-24 18:24

      The so called refugees have now seen through her. We wll meet

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-24 20:09

      Refugee and Manu : The word refugee describes a person seeking refuge, for whatever reason. The word has no racial connotation. Only the ANC attached a racist meaning to this word in this case, and that is to be expected, because racism is one of their tools of the trade. The fact that Helen stood by what she said, shows consistency and good leadership - indications that she can be trusted with your vote. Nobody yet put forward a convincing argument against the use of the word "refugee" in this case

      Dave - 2012-03-25 04:54

      You don't get it and never will. Shame.

      Oom - 2012-03-31 19:13

      Please explain what is offensive in the word refugee? I think your hatred of white people is palpable, by all means go ahead and vote for a party that does not deliver on basic human rights such as education, security, health and education, and steals from the poor.

  • Polotic - 2012-03-24 14:57

    According to the Oxford Dictionary, New Edition, refugee is defined as, "A person who has left home and seeks refuge elsewhere e.g. from war, persecution or some natural disaster." I would venture that the disaster in this case is the collapsed education system in the Eastern Cape. Qoboshiyane states, among other things, "Zille ignores the fact that there are more people from the Eastern Cape relocating to provinces like Gauteng, Kwa-Zulu Natal and Mpumulanga. This they do because they are free to do so." There may be some truth in this (except the bit about Mpumulanga - anybody moving there must be mad given the state of that province) but he does not provide an answer as to why people are moving of their own free will. He is probably too embarrassed to admit that the Eastern Cape Government is incompetent, corrupt and has failed their citizens. So he leaves this bit unsaid and rather raises the racism issue - s atandard tactic of the ANC when faced with their own failings which the refuse to admit to.

      dmkize - 2012-03-24 19:55

      @Polotic What ever...!

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-24 20:13

      Polotic : Don't spoil a good story with facts. You see dmkize is upset about this. The racist thing is so much more exciting.

  • lundi.mzimkulu - 2012-03-24 15:04

    All the political white heads tend to be racial & that sh*t is so not on Helen Z... Whatever her name is cant believe a public figure could be so "stupid" distinguish people that look up to her,tell me why does the press get so hostilical when Julius Malema states some racial facts ANC was inconsiderate regarding it's judgements torwads Malema's attitude. This Helen person needs to be disciplened

      Luviwe - 2012-03-24 15:12

      But Mzi in all honesty there was no mention of colour in that article. But the problem might be most people from EC are black. The reality is that our schools a dysfunctional. Even teachers take their children to formeer model c and private schools. As long as we remain in denial, we will neva be able to adress these structural problems.

      chris.grobbelaar1 - 2012-03-24 17:49

      HOSTILICAL ? TORWADS ? DISCIPLENED ? I GUESS YOU WERE IN ONE OF THE EASTERN CAPE'S SCHOOLS. COME TO THE WESTERN CAPE FOR PROPER SCHOOLING. MAYBE YOU WILL ALSO LEARN TO SPELL AND USE ACTUAL WORDS THAT HAVE MEANING. THEN YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS ON FORUMS WITHOUT THROWING AWAY YOUR NAME...

      Louisa - 2012-03-24 18:27

      The Refugees are going to disciple her at the polls come 2014.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-24 20:15

      lundi : Are you also a refugee from the ANC run education in the Eastern Cape?

  • Templeton - 2012-03-24 15:07

    The ANC of today is racist. The fact is, the government decisions today are based on their self-interest of the elite the JZ's. They don't care about this country and its People except for their pockets. Zuma God Will Judge You.

      Luviwe - 2012-03-24 15:20

      And history as well and I hope it will be harsh.

  • Alex - 2012-03-24 15:19

    White people move to the W/Cape because there is good governance....

      Nettie - 2012-03-24 15:40

      Ek wens ek was een van daai 'REFUGEES' skies vir my afrikaans!!

      Blessed Ndlovu Maratuza - 2012-03-24 15:43

      Thats shallow and racist.

      Riaan - 2012-03-24 16:00

      Blessed Ndlovu Maratuza Really? What's racist about wanting good governance? Or do you equate good with white? In that case your inferiority complex is more severe than originally thought. The truth hurts.

      Blessed Ndlovu Maratuza - 2012-03-24 16:13

      Its shallow n racist to say white ppl move 2 w/c bcoz of gud gvnnce, and wat do blacks move 2 w.c for? And claiming tht black is inferior to white is even shallower and its by people who scared of the power n potential in blacks.. Yo shallow opinion dont hurt all..

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-24 16:14

      @Blessed, Shallow and racist, how come? If the Eastern Cape (SLUMMIES) was governed well, surely people of all races would not leave?

      Nettie - 2012-03-24 19:31

      Blessed you may call the whites refugees because thay flee bad governance in the rest country just as the blacks flee the EC

  • Refugee - 2012-03-24 15:19

    if only news24 thumbs up can win you votes , look here white people we not complaining about her addressing EC education because we all know EC is a mess in fact i also came from EC to study here and worked here as well ,what we complaining about is the name "Refugee" we are labeled as thats all.........its just a shame she mite not see the dent she has caused her party by that statement because by 2014 Afrikaneers mite have overthrown her by then because of the "Mazibuko" issue

      Nettie - 2012-03-24 15:35

      Tell us then wat do you call a persoon who flee from a bad situation the is a thread to their future. Voting for party that is the resone for that thread just because you think that word is offensive is plain stupit. Please use your brain to think with and not your hart.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-24 15:42

      I think perhaps you are using this as a device to slam the DA whilst secretly enjoying the fruits of their labours in the WC. If she called the poor people 'displaced people' would that be more correct. The ANC is making a meal out of nothing and for you to support them in this, as an educated man, is just a sad reflection on your state of mind. This is not about race, this is about the reality of the difference between the WC and the EC and all the baggage that goes with it. It would be great if the ANC delivered, but they don't.

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-24 16:16

      I think she did not intend to insult, but a politician should know better.

      Louisa - 2012-03-24 18:32

      Refugees...There is now a factonal coup in the DA. Probably by the old guard who are not happy with Maibuko. Is just a matter of time till all the drama start to unfold. We at least discovered there are corrupt DA Municipalities and now we await whats going to be their campaign strategy in 2014.

  • Carlton - 2012-03-24 15:20

    The ANC needs to stop getting easily offended and deliver to the "masses" that trapped in a failed Educational system, look what has happend to Limpopo looted to a point that resembles Zim. JHB proper is a disgrace and so are many other cities governed by the ANC. Did you guys know there are 3 by elections in PE that if lost, DA would govern do what is best and vote.

      Luviwe - 2012-03-24 15:30

      That will be good for P.E the ANC needs a wake up call relly and it is failing us as a country.

  • Nkosinathi - 2012-03-24 15:38

    SADTU is the cancer that has successfully destroyed African children dreams, their potential and future in the Eastern Cape. We vote for ANC not for grand standing. Comrades lets face reality here, the unionised teachers are derailing the gains of democracy as our public schools are engines that create massive semi illiterate African children that continually feed the ever rising unemployment statistics of unemployable people and I must be honest here ladies and gentlemen, we will be caught down the line and it will be too late as that will be an uprising an Arab like spring!!! Zille might have mumbled and toughed raw nerve but she has a point that as an ANC myself if I ignore it I will never forgive myself for a life time. On many times SABC having been running a program called "Cutting Edge" showing a sore state of education shambles done to our children and devastation it has brought especially in Eastern Cape. How many unionised teachers have their children on government schools? How many government officials have their children in government schools?? Why? Go slow, absent and string kill education. I put my head on the block and I sacrifice my dignity to come clear and declare that SADTU have violated the constitutional rights for African children for quality education. I forgive in advance all those who will insult me for standing my ground. Zille about education's sorry state in Eastern Cape you heat the nail on the head keep it up Madam premier!!!!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-24 15:43

      Well said.

      Luviwe - 2012-03-24 15:52

      Thank you Nkosinathi, I forgive too all those who will be insulting me as well for agreeing with Ms Zille on this one, we failing our children. Whether one like it or not SADTU is the major problem and the president had the audesity to praise them on his state of the nation adress. I regard that as an insult to our intelligence who have got children in these schools. My brother is a teacher and a member of SADTU, but when we talk about the way they are choking the education of mostly black children he is ashamed, That goes to tell u our state of affairs especially in our province, What a shame! which they don't have.

      Juan - 2012-03-24 16:08

      Nkosinathi and Luviwe we need more people like you, there is a huge problem with our education system and you know what the sad part is, it only seems to be effecting the black community. I am very fortunate to be able to put my son in a private school, but even so none of the white model C schools or whatever they are called today has these kind of problems. And I don't care wheater our country is run by the ANC or DA, point is they are failing our children hugely, it is our kids human right to have decent schools and decent education and without that this country will never ever move forward. And the sadest part is that there are so many children out there that would like to have an education, but us adults with our racists remarks and attitudes and fighting and corruption are taking that away from them. very very sad indeed!!

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-24 16:18

      SADTU: Such A Devastating Teachers Union. The teacher part is an insult.

  • Miekie - 2012-03-24 15:51

    I totally agree with Helen Zille...But at the same time I feel really sorry for people that want to be educated and they want it so badly that they are prepared to relocate to get the education...I remember a story on carte blanche about the schools in the eastern cape...Really shocking..they need real teachers and schools...All the provinces should give their children a good education and the Eastern Province should not become a burden to the western province...The Eastern Province should rather catch a wake up and do something about their schools instead of blaming other people of racism....rather stand up and do something about the schools in the eastern cape because all our children deserve a good education so that we can build a better nation.

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-24 16:24

      I agree from: The Eastern Province should rather catch a wake up and do something about their schools instead of blaming other people of racism....rather stand up and do something about the schools in the eastern cape because all our children deserve a good education so that we can build a better nation. But first government EC must have that Mercedes 500. So he/she can visit the devastation of SLUMMIES.

  • Shoosh - 2012-03-24 15:59

    So according to the E.C AintSee it's inhumane for Helen to merely SAY the word refugee, yet it is OK for them to deny the basics of medical & education which is in itself an inhumane ACTION?

      Thapelo - 2012-03-24 16:20

      those refugess by zille standard are going to guguleto were education standard is bad as the rest of the country anyway education of south africa is poor even 100% pass in maths literacy is poor by my stardard unless you are zille and see educational standard in cape as superior and is causing refugees.

  • Blessed Ndlovu Maratuza - 2012-03-24 16:03

    U dont call people u dream of 'ruling', Refugees. Period! Thats degrading. Everyone has a right to be anywhere in SA.

      Maphuri - 2012-03-24 16:26

      she forgot she's a visitor!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-24 16:43

      Actually you do. This is on the plaque at the base of the statue of liberty. Do you know how many refugees made America home? The New Colossus Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

  • leeza.ballack - 2012-03-24 16:16

    LOL..... its amazing how the ANC tries to find absolutely ANYTHING to use against Zille...... while the country watches and laughs..... at the ANC

  • Jacques - 2012-03-24 16:26

    How does the word "refugee" refer to "blacks"? Did she say black refugees? Blacks? No. For all we know they were white kids going to the WC for education- surely the E Cape cannot be sure each and every relocated kid was black? Clutching at straws, are we?

      Thapelo - 2012-03-24 16:47

      @jacques. dont try to be academic. we can read the headline ourselves hypocrite

      Koos - 2012-03-24 18:23

      @Jacques: Thapelo must be from the EC.

      dmkize - 2012-03-24 19:49

      Snake

      dmkize - 2012-03-24 22:56

      Snake

  • Halvor - 2012-03-24 16:47

    Go, Helen - it's guts, and a real determination to tell things as they are that makes you the leader you are. Unlike some people we could mention ...... !

      dmkize - 2012-03-24 19:47

      Our Goverment is corrupt we all know that but still Hellen will never Rule South Africa what so ever•

  • nikelom - 2012-03-24 16:49

    Thank you very much ANC for your damned, corrupt, inept gov. Only if you did your lot we'd have to contend with sophisticated racial undertones from Ms Zille and her supporters. On her part, quite unfortunate that she fails to accept this "refugee" statement as unfortunate, regardless of whether she understands why or not. Methinks it certainly reverses the gains she made in recent past. Statements like these are rather undesirable, and not in keeping with the SA she touted pre 2011 polls. Time will tell. . .

  • farmfreund - 2012-03-24 16:51

    Ban the word Racist

  • putjepadvinder - 2012-03-24 16:56

    Hectic....ANC has robbed and stolen from EC communities resulting in the lack of education and people fleeing the province in search of what was promised to them; better education and now ANC redirects their failures to the use of the word 'refugee'...rather focus your efforts to what you were choosen to power for! Keep being critical Helen; otherwise who else would be.....

  • Sabelo Sikhosana Smalfather - 2012-03-24 18:02

    when will this argument of racist ends .its real disgusting now.

      Koos - 2012-03-24 18:24

      The ANC can’t exist without the word “racist” and the cards associated with it.

      Nettie - 2012-03-24 19:09

      When the ANC stop being racist!

      Elton - 2012-03-25 09:22

      Agreed, she complains about the bad levels of education, and now she is a racist. Wtf!?!?! The ANC are sick.

  • Tony - 2012-03-24 18:25

    The DA is really not a sustainable party - it fact it is a major threat to national stability in the country. The ANC needs to be call order for the large scale corruption in the country - however, the DA is not the party that is capable of doing this. Yes, it has made some good noises most recently. But, this is exactly what it is - just noises. Make no doubt about it I love the ANC - but, I would like to see the emergence of a Party that has a real passion for all South Africans but more particularly the disenfranchised. This party should have a passion for real growth and the elimination of poverty amongst the masses. The DA as represented by Helen Zille will continue making racial blunders that divide rather than unite different racial groups. The reason for these racial blunders is because she views blacks in a negative light but, she hypocritically suppresses these inner views of hers because of the political position she occupies. However, whatever overflows in the heart eventually overflows in the mouth.

      Simthandile Mpondo - 2012-03-24 18:33

      I'm right there with u Tony. What Zille said about the state of education in the EC is 100% true but I think she lost the plot by labeling the children. Instead of focusing on fixing the problem we're busy arguing abt the stupid name calling When Malema said Lindiwe Mazibuko was a Tea Girl no one from the ANC said anything but now they're crying foul. I luv the ANC but sumtimes they are disappointing.

      Luviwe - 2012-03-24 18:56

      Sim nomdade you are right, maybe she shoul had used another word looking at our history which is not good. But look at her very well, she is so passionate about good governance and corruption and I reckon she wanted to put emphasis on the gravity of the problem which is spilling to other provinces as well.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-25 10:19

      Tell the truth, you are simply just too proud to admit the ANC is a failure. Pride makes for very hard falls. It's time you put your pride and underlying racism aside. The problems you see in Zille are reflections of your own bias.

  • Sabelo Sikhosana Smalfather - 2012-03-24 19:38

    there is nothing to do with this .our comments does not helping to lift up this country .becaus there are those words of being white and being black .and we keep on rating the democratic government. that we are the part of.let us help each other.

  • Kgobe Mahlaba - 2012-03-24 19:57

    Zille is racist and she doesn't know how to pretend. Anc must take her to court as she called the african the Refugees. if this statement was said by Julius Malema to white people they should have to take him to court by white people.

      Marion - 2012-03-25 08:59

      @Kgobe Mahlaba - "Zille ignored the fact that there are more people from the Eastern Cape relocating to provinces like Gauteng, Kwa-Zulu Natal and Mpumalanga. This they do because they are free to do so," he said. In this statement the ANC reinforces the fact that people are relocating from the Eastern Cape is because the ANC has failed dismally in providing for the needs of that province. By focussing on that one word, 'refugee', and quite erroneously calling it a racist comment because nowhere was race mentioned, the ANC is trying to deflect attention from the very real, and very dire, problems experienced by the people of the ANC-controlled Eastern Cape. Look past the unfortunate use of that word and look at the fact that the DA has built 30 schools in 3 years to accommodate all the extra pupils. Did the ANC do anything near that in the Eastern Cape? In my opinion what people who are offended by the word 'refugee' should be objecting more vociferously to is the very real fact that the ANC-led government is providing sub-standard education to the children of SA. And that includes any children you have/may have. I know what I'm talking about because I have a child in one of the poorer schools and the education in that school is pathetic compared to the education I received more than 40 years ago. The ANC lowered the standard of education when it came into power instead of raising it to the level of 'white' education at that time.

      Elton - 2012-03-25 09:26

      @ Kgobe : Dude I think you are the racist. Think about it: Zille complains about the bad levels of education in the EC. This is an issue which affects millions of young people. However, you would rather want to take take Zille to court? Unbelievable. Complain about the eduction rather and forget about the petty small stuff!!!

  • boxerd1 - 2012-03-25 06:42

    ANC, stop your ignorance, arrogance and donw-right stupidity! Every time you shift the blame to racists or Apartheid you shoot yourself in the foot because people are not stupid! Fix what you broke in the Eastern Cape and stop making a racist out of Helen Zille. Zille used the appropriate word to describe the mess you made in the EC! Fix it!

  • Lauden Kirk - 2012-03-25 08:38

    Im white I'm a refugee in my own country. I was born in umtata. I feel foreign.

  • Waldo Moulder - 2012-03-25 10:12

    Can someone please explain to me how this statement infers that the DA thinks the Western Cape is a place for whites only?! I have no opinion on this statement other than I in no way, shape or form understand how this statement in any way refers to race! My God, the ANC have become so desperate

      Waldo Moulder - 2012-03-25 10:16

      that they are trying to turn any statement into racial attacks! Why don't you just shut up and run the damn country and make sure that the children in the eastern cape have decent schools to go to...isn't that the real issue here??

  • Siegeknives - 2012-03-25 11:37

    Race, race , race, that's all I see out of the ANC. Guys, how about we debate the issue at hand? The lack of decent education in this country. Instead of argueing about a problem, solve it. Anything less is disrespecting the very people you are trying to uplift. This whole thing actually sounds like a couple of 6 year olds fighting on a playground. Grow up.

  • Bulelwa - 2012-03-25 14:47

    I'm not sure if the Department of Education is to be blamed for the behavior of the Western Cape pupils also. Just like one can be educated but be a stupid fool so is the fact that one can go until the end of the sea seeking a better education but if the behavior is disgusting that person is worse than a child that has never been to school. Before you judge me. I'm all for education and the betterment of our Country but something is wrong somewhere with the pupil's behavior and conduct in the Western Cape which makes me question myself. Doesn't education go hand in hand with discipline? And trying to picture the future with these educated pupils it's more scary. Separate education from Behavior and conduct then you'll get my point.

  • Iceberg - 2012-03-25 15:33

    What is most apparent is that the people who are contesting this (in general) only reject Zille because she is white-no other reason. How RACIST is that?