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Eastern Cape needs second liberation - Zille

2012-03-31 16:22

Johannesburg - The Eastern Cape needs a "second liberation struggle" to free it from crony-capitalism and corruption, Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille said in Grahamstown on Saturday.

Quoting from an unpublished manuscript by international affairs expert Greg Mills, Zille said: "Much of Africa has experienced two liberations -the first from colonial and or racist regimes, and the second from the excesses of the liberators themselves.

"We, in South Africa, having suffered the ravages of colonialism and apartheid for so long, have lived under the delusion that if we succeeded in our first liberation struggle, the struggle for universal franchise, the rest would automatically follow," she said.

According to the Western Cape Premier the second struggle should be led by the DA because it was the only party that had the values and policies needed to alleviate poverty and reduce unemployment.

The Eastern Cape, with its rich struggle history, needed the new liberation more than other provinces because it had "been so bitterly abandoned and betrayed over the past 18 years".

As the province of former president Nelson Mandela's birth, the Eastern Cape owed this to him "in the twilight of his life", she said.

- SAPA

Comments
  • hcduplessis - 2012-03-31 16:27

    I agree one 100% with that statement,One problem,How do we do this?

      phindas - 2012-03-31 17:02

      The 'economic freedom' and or liberation that the DA leader refers to can just not be led by the DA.The ANC has clearly failed the people across the country and only a genuine and true alternative to the ANC can achieve such 'freedom' and the DA with its 'refugee' comments and mentality not only in the Western Cape belongs truly in the dustbins of SA history.

      Jessica - 2012-03-31 17:12

      The madam has spoken!!!!

      Tanie - 2012-03-31 17:33

      First step duplee, she should stop calling South Africans refugees.That is where to begin and we will take her dreams for sure.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-31 19:08

      With people like Phindas who see race and define things by race but can't see they are racist, we have no chance.

      clinton.badenhorst - 2012-04-01 08:42

      Zille... Will you marry me? I love this woman!

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-01 11:20

      No Pythagoras. You and that hypotheneuse of yours gave me sinus problems.

      Ally - 2012-04-02 10:57

      Phindas, heed what "the madam" has said. Of course the liberation can be led by the DA, a 100% South African party. The ANC doesn't have exclusive rights on "struggle" or "liberation" or "freedom".

      ChristopherGlenHarrison - 2012-04-12 07:04

      HC, you're 100% right about one thing - 'we' are the people who have to do it - the EC, and especially it's education system, need urgent interventions from all sectors of society. It's a challenge that's simply too big, and too important to be left to government alone. I've been involved with a student-run education project in the rural EC since 2009, and my experience has left me more convinced than ever that the youth can (and should) be building innovative new movements to improve their education. If you're interested, check us out at https://www.facebook.com/igqangiproject

  • Shirley - 2012-03-31 16:34

    Ms Zille you are spot on! Now if you can convince the masses that cry protest against lack of services etc to see the light,that would be wonderful!

  • Jean - 2012-03-31 16:44

    Excellent save Zille... Agreed with your refugees comment and agree with you now!

  • Ian - 2012-03-31 16:46

    Even though I do not and will never vote for you Madam Zille, you are 100% correct. How on earth a province with struggle icons can be so poor? There is no ANC leadership in the Eastern Cape. They are bunch of corrupt, lazy idiots.

      Trudy - 2012-03-31 16:53

      Anc leaders seem to be corrupt everywhere, not just in EC.

      roger.pacey - 2012-03-31 17:25

      I would like to know how things will change in the Eastern Cape if people just keep voting the same "corrupt, lazy idiots" into power: an Arab Spring type uprising, perhaps?

  • hoyingomane - 2012-03-31 16:47

    zille deal with racism 1st in Cape Town then we will vote for the da so far so good with the ANC

      Nigel - 2012-03-31 17:30

      cape town is not racist, blacks & whites & coloreds get along very well thanks, its not like in the ANC "run" (thats a overstatement) provinces where the ANC incites racism & hatred to cover up their uselessness & corruption. If you think so far so good for the ANC, then you are a blind Indlovu, shame!! time to wakey wakey!!!

      Pixie86 - 2012-03-31 17:44

      nigel, the WC is racist. There's just no two ways about it. Stop pretending.

      Colin - 2012-03-31 18:27

      Pixie, what are you talking about ? ANC cannot stand to lose a province. Hence everything there is labelled racist. Please be part of the solution ! Stop racist ANC

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-31 19:11

      The WC isn't racist, the racists call it racist because they refuse to acknowledge a DA run province is the best. They are judging on race and can't take the log out of their eyes.

      Hugo - 2012-03-31 20:02

      Mike says there is no racism in cape town then continues,"It seems that there is jealousy not only by government but also by Black citizens of our country that the only province properly run, without corruption and nepotism is the province run by a White woman " hard to believe that these statement came from someone who does not see things through race-tinted glasses.He goes on,"where(CT) not a single corruption scandal has erupted since the DA has taken over."Not only is he 'race conscious' but also 'forgetful'.

      Warren - 2012-04-01 08:45

      In my experience racism seems to me more prevalent in the rural areas or in more conservative parts of cities. Beyond politics there is no money to be made by being racist: you just restrict our market

      bzengetwa - 2012-04-01 12:08

      fools say Cape Town is racist. Other races support each other but black people find it difficult to elevate each other. It is black selfishness, not wanting others to eat from the same tree, that degrades them and make Cape Town seem racist. well a true Capetian will tell you. black does not want to see another black succeed.

      nkulekweni - 2012-04-02 16:41

      Warren ...rare impartiality and logic. Good on you as they say down under.

  • Templeton - 2012-03-31 16:53

    The former transkei and Ceskei were well known for corruption, this is just another act of activity or extention without interruption.

  • johan.vanhoff - 2012-03-31 17:01

    GO FOR IT DA AND HELEN ZILLE. I JUST HOPE YOU HAVE A STRATEGY TO CONVINCE THE PEASANTS.I KNOW IT SOUNDS DIFFICULT BUT BY UPGRADING THEIR MENTALITY THEY WILL SEE THE LIGHT AND ABSCOND FROM THE ANC.

      Templeton - 2012-03-31 17:14

      I am not sure about the term "PEASANTS" it's not easy on the ears.

      Pixie86 - 2012-03-31 17:42

      you are an idiot! That is the most insulting statement i have ever heard! Go jump off a bridge and get a mind in the process! It's exactly comments like these that convince black people not to trust white politicians! The hate you have for us and the way you undermine our intelligence! As if you're any better!

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-03-31 17:46

      u might b right Martie but I agree mor with Templeton

      Mc - 2012-03-31 18:03

      GO FOR IT JOHAN !! That hat tells me beggars give you money.

      Liz - 2012-03-31 18:06

      @Johan - its offensive remarks such as yours that have put me off the DA forever! (..and I am white) Imagine being in a party in the 21st century with people who are stuck in your kind of mindset Do yourself (and the DA) a favour and delete your remark.

      Colin - 2012-03-31 18:30

      Pixie, nobody can undermine your intelligence. You do it yourself by voting ANC against your better judgement. How intelligent is it to keep on voting and protesting, and voting and protesting, and voting and protesting . . . .

      Hugo - 2012-03-31 20:05

      Oom Johan.Vanhoff not only the peasants but the refugees as well as the professional blacks.Looks to me that the DA has their work cut out for them.

      Pixie86 - 2012-03-31 21:03

      @colin, this just proves my point. You assume just because i'm black then i have to be voting for the anc! Did it escape your tiny narrow brain that there are other parties in this country apart from your famed DA and the anc?

      Colin - 2012-03-31 22:39

      Pixie, I apologise for assumimng that you support the ANC. I would certainly feel somewhat insulted by such an allegation myself. But it was not because you are black. I did not know you were black, did not care to try and find out either, because it does not matter to me. You seemed to be apologetic towards the ANC, that's all. So that does not prove your point about race. I am not into race debates.

      marumobongani - 2012-04-01 05:14

      thats what happens when you follow footsteps you get lost in direction so set your own never inherit inhuman behaviour hope to survive and you know am black person but i'll never play a race card with you but I have to tell you unity,peace and prosperity is not only for us but also for our children so you joked about us being peasant guess what I forgive you my brother because deep down you want to be a racist nobody does and hate is by not choice wish you all the best johan

  • John - 2012-03-31 17:03

    Lead the way, I just wish it would happen sooner for all of South Africans that do not want to leave this country.

  • Carlton - 2012-03-31 17:06

    The Honourable Premier of the Western Cape is right, how long must we watch this looting and abuse incurred by the current goverment, how long must the masses suffer( even-though this is because of thier own fears) it is time we created a new revolution, a blue revolution, a revolution that can only be executed when you go to the ballot box. Rise DA rise. Rise compatriots rise.

  • Cassandra Olivier - 2012-03-31 17:19

    Here in Centurion the DA is nothing for us

      Vic - 2012-03-31 17:28

      Centurion was your choice.

      Sharon - 2012-03-31 17:36

      You did not choose the DA. Suffer the consequences!

      Colin - 2012-03-31 17:43

      Maybe you must start doing something for yourself. Leave the ANC victom mentality behind. At least the DA won't stop you from doing something that is right.

  • phindas - 2012-03-31 17:25

    Prof, Greg Mills is spot on and for the DA to create an illusion that they are the custodians of such a 'liberation' is simply misleading. An alternative to liberate not only the Eastern Cape but the whole country including the Western Cape will surely come from an alternative that is truly representative and led by the black majority of this country. The ideas for such a 'freedom' might still be conceived as Western liberal thought but they have to be adopted by the majority of South African for such liberation to take succeed..again the DA is in no position to do that..

      Sharon - 2012-03-31 17:34

      'Truly representative' and 'led by the black majority' in one sentence? Pfft! I agree with the former, but the black majority is messing up BIG TIME!

      Colin - 2012-03-31 17:46

      "In no position". I call that a self fulfilling prophesy. As long as people think that they cannot make a difference by voting DA the ANC will rule and chaos and corruption will be rife, as yhey have proven abundantly over 18 years. Just vote and make a difference. How about that ?

      Hugo - 2012-03-31 20:10

      SA needs a viable alternative party asap.

      Keith - 2012-04-01 09:34

      Phindas - you can write, but clearly not think. Think now, and think with that God given non racist brain. It is not too difficult to understand that the EC (former Transkei)which got independence as a homeland from South Africa in 1976 and reincorporated in '94 has had 36 years (yes 36 years!!) of being run by "the black majority" ... and look at it now. Surely it does not matter who, but rather how can we uplift this beautiful land. We should all be proud that Helen is concerned for the worstening state of our people that have been neglected.....and almost forgotten by the "black majority " rule. Shame on you...

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-01 13:34

      phindas : Try looking at things without those racist glasses.

      Mlamli - 2012-04-02 13:19

      Unyanisile nto ka Phinda. Ngekhe olodaba lakhokhlwa yi DA tu unotsh'impundu zechwama.

  • William Mohlolo - 2012-03-31 17:25

    Yes I do agree that E.C is not run well!! Yes Zille you are correct something must be done there and as opposition party you have the wright to talk. Now can we agree about racism in your party run province W.C?? Is the worse province with racial abuse!! Blacks are treat same way like on apartheid years, is not so?? It need second liberation too!!!

      Colin - 2012-03-31 17:48

      William, where on earth do you get your information ? Is it because you are not allowed to discriminate against whites and colourds in WCape ?

      William Mohlolo - 2012-03-31 18:28

      Colin when you look at W.C do you think people who live there are treated equally?? There are certain places in cape town where blacks are hardly go because whites don't like to see them there!!! Whites think they own that province and use certain races to gain power.

      William Mohlolo - 2012-03-31 18:34

      Colin when you look at W.C do you think people who live there are treated equally?? There are certain places in cape town where blacks are hardly go because whites don't like to see them there!!! Whites think they own that province and use certain races to gain power. The province need second liberation too and Zille must admit that if she want to win blacks hearts and stop defending it. She's behind E.C too much and forget that we don't just want to hear her sweet criticism about E.C. Let her fix racism in her province and be bold the challenge it!!

      Colin - 2012-03-31 18:57

      William, there are also places in the WCape and other provinces where I certainly do not feal at liberty to go. The DA is not to blame for that. There are no laws in WCape prohibating blacks anyhwhere. We all own the WCape, as do ALL own SA. Every party want to gain power through votes. Not just DA. Everybody wants black votes, not just DA. Why do you call that racist ? I honestly don't see the logic. Why can Zuma want white votes but Zille cannot want black votes ? That, my friend, sounds very racist to me.

      Patiwe - 2012-03-31 19:33

      In your eyes everything that is black brings out your phobia. Shame what a racist.

      Patiwe - 2012-03-31 19:34

      To jared

      Hugo - 2012-03-31 20:13

      Colin "you can fool some people some of the time but not all people all the time" Jared,no,tell me you are a troll?black parasites,really?wow is that the 'non racialism' of the Cape?

      SaleƩ - 2012-04-01 00:08

      @Colin - I am trying to follow the arguments you and other readers have made. You have lost me on one point. At 22:31 in a response to Siyadyosiba, you said that other provinces are ten times more racist than the DA. At 18:57 and in response to William Mohlolo, you said that while there are places you aren't free to go in the WC and other provinces, the WC is not racist because there are no laws there prohibiting blacks anywhere. Are you saying that the other provinces are more racist than the WC because they have laws prohibiting some races from certain places? If that's not what you are saying, then is it not possible that racism can be found to exist, notwithstanding the absence of racist laws?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-04-02 11:20

      @William, you not even part of WC so on what authority do you speak from?

  • Glyn - 2012-03-31 17:26

    Now that will light a fire under the anc!

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-03-31 17:49

      to make hay (read corruption) while the sun shines?

  • Sharon - 2012-03-31 17:28

    It was once said that in time, every successful revolution put on the robe of the tyrant it had deposed. The ANC wears it with aplomb! Touche, Mme Zille. We shall burn that robe someday!

  • Chien-Teng - 2012-03-31 17:41

    Helen Zille wants to liberate the Eastern Cape and incorporate it into the Western Cape and make it its own country called the Republic of Cape. Watch out Northern Cape... Zille will come for you shortly!!! Okay, jest aside... it would be a good wake up call to the ANC to make them see how they have failed and how far they have sunk (giving a disservice to the symbol of the struggle, giving a bad name to the good name that was respected and earned from the earlier days and to the people who have entrusted their lives and the lives of their children for a better future). All these self enrichment and nepotism and corruption and now totalitarian tendencies (the secrecy bill, info bill and changing or "review" of the constitution) and hiring stupid aggressive government spin doctors.. like seriously... why can't they just own up that, "hey, we have a big problem from top to bottom, lets sort it out and give the party, the government and the country confidence..." otherwise I seriously don't see where the country is heading other than another Banana republic... I love this country too much to see it be ruined by the greedy and selfish "liberators"

  • zetzingane - 2012-03-31 17:47

    Voting for da is like going back to the apartheid time

      Colin - 2012-03-31 18:36

      That is crap and you know it.

      Hugo - 2012-03-31 20:15

      Jared did she say all that?

      Jared - 2012-03-31 20:50

      @Hugo - clearly you are a product of the Azanian ee-duh-kay-shun system yourself with your utter lack of comprehension. Duh.

      Mike - 2012-04-01 11:42

      zetzingane what a load of bollocks, how can the DA bring back apartheid, man for FFS read the constitution which is supreme, some of us were educated before the pass rate was lowered to 30% for you!

      Hugo - 2012-04-01 14:02

      Jared my question again: d i d s h e s a y a l l t h a t?

  • Pixie86 - 2012-03-31 17:49

    to be honest none of the political parties in south africa are at any level to rescue this country. Neither DA, ANC, cope, kiss party, ff plus etc have the balls to pluck this country out of its misery because politicians always look out for number one!

      Colin - 2012-03-31 18:39

      Unfortunately we need a government, and unfortunately they are politicians. So why vote for the worst possible party ?

      Pixie86 - 2012-03-31 20:41

      when anc came into power we all had so much hope. Who's to say the blind faith you have in DA won't fail you?

      Colin - 2012-03-31 22:21

      Pixie, I do not have blind faith in anyone. But the DA has proven to be ten times more reliable than the ANC, in every possible department. But it takes an honest person to acknowledge that. Are you one of those ?

  • Louisa - 2012-03-31 17:53

    Madam Botox, please curb racism, corruption iin your Alluded Alliance and inequality first in the western cape before we take you serious. We are tired of your holier attitude.

      Colin - 2012-03-31 18:44

      Double standards ? Why do you insist on WCape getting 110% while the other provinces hardly get 30% ? Is that your idea of a level playing field ? By the way, I don't believe you are honest in your statement. You never intend to take anything that works by the DA seriously.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-31 19:58

      Louisa is a racist.

  • Sidney Gilroy - 2012-03-31 17:58

    Drop Zille. The woman is good, but having her lead forever smacks of the same illness the ANC has. Get a black executive council. This is Africa. What black man will take a white party serious? Change your name to the African Democratic Alliance. The name DA will never shake the connection to Tony Leon's private club and safety boat for ex-NP cronies.

      sven.gohre - 2012-03-31 19:05

      Sidney, there are far more ex-NP cronies in the CancER than in the D.A. I am therefore a little bewildered why you vote for the CancER election after election.

      sidney.gilroy - 2012-03-31 19:24

      The thing is...as long as the DA follows the same election tactic they have in the WC...they will only ever rule over the WC...for the WC is COMPLETELY different than the rest of the country. I am all for the DA and a multi-party state...but they have to shake some preconceived perceptions the black majority harbours of them and re-position themselves as a viable alternative to the ANC. And I am sorry, having a white woman lead a party with an apartheid-remnant name and think they will rule...is insanity.

      Hugo - 2012-03-31 20:16

      ok

      Colin - 2012-03-31 22:11

      Isn't your argument painting black people as not being able to distinguish between principles and emotional heritage ? I will not take them so low as to think that they are unable to view things differently.

      SaleƩ - 2012-04-01 00:22

      @Colin - apologies if I seem to be gunning for you in this forum :-), but see, politics is quite emotional...and it should be. It is about the future of our kids. It is about the health of our elderly parents. It is about our cost of living. Emotive topics, always. I disagree with the argument that people must not vote with their emotions. People should and will always vote with their emotions, unless they are robots with no feelings. If this isn't true, then emotive statements such as "yes, we can!" would have no place in politics. Believe it or not, emotion is; and should be behind every product and service we buy, save for an investment product. People should not be expected to distinguish between principles and emotional heritage. The two are intertwined. What needs to happen is that one emotion must be replaced with another. To expect anything different is unrealistic and the politician who cannot appeal to the emotions of the voter will fail.

      lwando.poni - 2012-04-01 10:43

      @Collin, you are so right sir but Gilroy makes a very important point too. However, you must both remember one thing, black people arent the same and they dont have the same experiences. Its more about education more than anything. The uneducated are highly unlikely to judge politics dispassionately and vote purely on merit. However, the educated ones will look at pros first. The ANC is a cunning machine and it knows this Unfortunately for blacks there is a higher uneducated ratio than with whites. It doesnt mean uneducated blacks cant reason, it means their reasoning is somewhat less effective and that is why educated decisions will always be better. The majority is still quite undereducated and if the DA wants to win elections, they need to add some colour in the executive of the party.

      Hugo - 2012-04-01 14:05

      Lwando actually you are wrong.Once again may I state that I haven't met any educated black person who thinks the DA has got what it takes to take the country forward.

      lwando.poni - 2012-04-01 18:11

      @Hugo, I said educated blacks have the capability to judge leadership dispassionately - they ask the right questions and are able to make educated/informed/calculated decisions. I didnt say educated blacks think the DA is better. I'm one of the people who think the DA is as ineffective as the ANC...

      lwando.poni - 2012-04-01 18:11

      @Hugo, I said educated blacks have the capability to judge leadership dispassionately - they ask the right questions and are able to make educated/informed/calculated decisions. I didnt say educated blacks think the DA is better. I'm one of the people who think the DA is as ineffective as the ANC...

  • Rudi - 2012-03-31 18:30

    Go Zille Go dont hesitate for one moment. And dont you ever stop leading our DA!!!

      Louisa - 2012-03-31 18:48

      She will lead Deluded Alliiance, but will never climb the highest seat in the land.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-31 18:56

    The first liberation was about the transfer of power from one political group to another political group. It was a political agreement designed by politicians for politicians. The second liberation must be about transferring power from the politicians to the people. It must be a democratic agreement designed by the people for the people. There can be no true freedom and democracy while we still have Political Parties. They will always put their own interests above that of the nation. All political parties must be scrapped and the management of our country depoliticized. At present it seems that the DA is the best organisation to take our democracy forward as an interim measure, as the ANC has hopelessly lost the plot.

      Sale%c3%a9 - 2012-04-01 16:18

      This can't be right i.e. - the argument that political parties must be dissolved. You have contradictions in your own argument and you seem to not understand the story of the social contract. The social contract, which you can google, together with democracy, ensure that chosen representatives look after the interests of the majority of a country's population. There is no sense in saying that politicians must be got rid of and replaced with a depoliticised structure. What do you think that structure would be? An apolitical structure? Nooit! It will be manned by politicians. There is no need to dissolve parties or to get rid of political representatives. That would never work, especially in the context of democracy, which you seem to advocate. All that is required is that people must vote for the right parties. It is ok to be upset that the DA is not in power. Hell, a lot of people are. But, to now want to pull down the "whole thing" down is a bit illogical and could very easily look like the actions of a boy, who when realising that his team is 15 points down in a local rugby game, decides he will take his ball home in the middle of the first half and end the game. There is nothing wrong with this game. The problem is with some teams and their failure to excite the spectators. :-/

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-01 16:50

      No, Salee. There are alternatives. Too long to discuss here, but believe me, the antiquated Political Party system is the greatest single stumbling block towards freedom and democracy. Your last sentence perhaps illustrates it best. Democracy is not a game where the winning team walks off with the spoils. And the citizens should not be spectators.

  • sipho.preens - 2012-03-31 18:57

    we really need it. Freed frm predators nw we're facing scarvangers.

  • Colin - 2012-03-31 19:07

    All ANC-supporters, please face the facts. We are governed by a party so weak that they can be called corrupt, even if they have some decent people who lead. Why can't you acknowledge that ? Do you think that it means you support apartheid ? No intelligent person will think that, only blind people. So why worry what blind people think ? Get out of your inferiority complex and start voting with your mind. The ANC is keeping this country down and you know it. Keeping on supporting them will not soothe the pain of the past. It will only make it worse.

      Colin - 2012-03-31 21:25

      They are not listening because I say so. They are listening in increasing numbers to the voice of reason and hope. Just look at Kliptown. Have you ever cared to notice that it is the smartest people of all race groups that turn against the ANC ?

      Hugo - 2012-04-01 14:07

      yes I have,the likes of the poor african boy who cant be racist because his mother was a domestic worker a.k.a Juju baby

  • Shaun - 2012-03-31 20:06

    what a hypocrite

  • Boeretroos - 2012-03-31 20:40

    Ag jinne tant Zille - blammeer jy alweer die boere en blankes vir jou suffering ? Blammeer liefs julle Sash pogings, jou Comrades en jou Jingo's vriendekring vir die verlies van n eens goeie land. Kom uit hulle uit my volk - Volkstaat !

  • Johann - 2012-03-31 21:34

    Every body here have pissed in the the bucket and the pong is getting offensive,we can no longer aford to fight politics on racial devides but to vote on compentancy and delivery .If we persist with our currant trend of politics we are fu!!d . And oh man the flat earth society is going to win ,and every body is going to lose

      Colin - 2012-03-31 22:17

      That, Corncob, is the very thing the ANC is so scared for. They must keep the people hostage at all cost. They must keep old wounds and hurts alive. If the focus moves to competent governance they are through, and they know it.

  • manyanyaphiri - 2012-03-31 21:44

    You are right in probably all respects, Ma'am EXCEPT ONE.... And maybe to quote you before the exception: "The Eastern Cape, with its rich struggle history". There is comparatively nothing rich about Eastern-Cape struggle history over and above what so-called liberals have over your past 18 years sought to hoodwink the nation and the world into believing pro-Mandelasque-Xhosa tribalism of the Eastern Cape kind. The Eastern Cape is home to our brothers and sisters just like your Western Cape of the so-called Coloureds. There is nothing special about the Eastern Cape whose Nelson Mandela so much overrated by the so-called liberals and the Helen Zilles, stole for the Eastern Cape the supremacy of KwaZulu-Natal in struggle stripes. So, please don't start, Ma'am, in telling us who is better in African struggle against your type. You do not know what you are talking about especially where your much-vaunted Nelson Mandela has been proven to be a pro-Eastern-Cape tribal political thief of the legacy of the people of KwaZulu-Natal via ANC Founder Pixley ka Isaka Seme! http://ninaewapenda.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-nelson-mandela-stole-legacy-of-anc.html

      lwando.poni - 2012-04-01 10:29

      Mxim, you're a trabalistic idiot. Theres no need to even argue with you. You're pissed because Mandela happens to be Xhosa? arg, with people like you alive today, Africans will never collectively progress as a people. You're dumb beyond comprehension. I didnt even realise we were competing for most contribution to the struggle. Talking about KZN' supremacy in the struggle #smh... I think you've been sipping on too much hateraid.

      Shayne - 2012-04-01 10:34

      Sawubona Manyanyaphiri, What the hell? Most of us are looking at ways to improve service delivery & oppurtunities for all 50 million South Africans and you're talking about ancient tribal differences between the Zulu & the Xhosa. Let's focus on the future here, for the sake of your children.

  • Robert - 2012-03-31 22:11

    Xhosanostro

      Stanley Mokwetli - 2012-04-01 04:46

      With all due respect Mrs Zille they say charity begins at home which is not what is happening in WC your province, the is a big difference between white areas and black areas in your province, black ppl in province r still treated like slaves and u busy with other provinces, leave EC alone, not so long u were calling them Refugees in your Province this says how little u think of them, now u want vote by telling the need a second liberation. A words of advise DA is still a white party to majority of black ppl and u r given a chance to change their minds when u won WC and now its close to ten years leading WC and the is still a Very big gap between whites and blacks in your area, so do u think that will the minds of black voters in other province? No u will get no black voter on your side while u treat those blacks in your province like slaves and calling blacks from neighbouring provinces Refugees, improve the lives of those black ppl in WC before trying other provinces or u will fail because black ppl view u as an ambassador of apartheid judging by your Province.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-04-02 11:28

      What a load of nonsense Stanley....

  • danny.kangausaru - 2012-03-31 23:16

    What liberation do u knw? U have been In ur comfort zone since ur mthr gave birth 2 u white gal. U can never represent us as blacks taking into account that u don't knw who we are n where we cum from young lady. I'm personally getting annoyed by u faking everything.

      Ayanda - 2012-04-01 07:23

      DA was given chance 4many years and they FAILED bcoz they didn't diliver anything.And look at the WC ppl are still living in shacks and the DA is busy developing the suburbs where the Whites live.There is nothing 2change the DA they are selfish and they will remain lyk that.DA is annoying and they mst 4get the power will get back 2them NEVER maybe if Zille cn shut her big mouth.

      Nikki Bodenstein - 2012-04-01 09:53

      Ayanda you must lay off the tik, you're talking absolute nonsense now! Your corrupt ANC has been in power now for 18 years and you're still in a shack.....something tells me they just don't give a damn about you. Well that and they blow all our tax money on expensive parties to celebrate their incompetency. You lot must stop with your backwards thinking and get up to speed with what's really happening!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-04-02 11:29

      And I'm getting annoyed by the illiteracy of people..

  • bzengetwa - 2012-04-01 00:16

    I think it is time ANC gives Eastern Cape pronvice over to DA and focus on improving Gauteng, otherwise they will end up losing poor Gauteng to DA. You gotta learn to share power when things do not balance within your structure and not try to govern all province but fail to deliver.

      Hugo - 2012-04-02 19:27

      the ANC cant give the DA any province,people will have to give the E.C to the DA,democracy?

  • Sibabalwe - 2012-04-01 01:00

    Yhoooo kunzima.

  • Apelele - 2012-04-01 01:25

    This coming from the same person who called students from the Eastern Cape refugees after the Grabouw incident. Why does she insist on acting like she cares!

      lwando.poni - 2012-04-01 10:13

      Whether or not she cares is besides the point. I may not like Zille but she has been spot on with her statements. She tells you education is in perile in the EC and what you are worried about is her phrasing, she tells you corrupt officials are destroying the province and what you are worried about is if she gives a damn or not. Get yourself checks baba...

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-01 11:46

      Apelele : I have read a lot of comments regading the refugee issue. Up to this point NO-ONE has explained WHAT the reason for the objection is. Perhaps I do not understand the meaning of words, so I will post a few. Please tell me how many are correct and how many are wrong: Invalid : A person suffering from an illness. Motorist : A person driving his own motorcar. Fan : (Person) An enthusiast of something or someone. Commuter : Someone who travels the same route in both directions regularly. Pedestrian : Someone who travels by walking. Tourist : Someone who visits places away from his/her home, for pleasure. Refugee : Someone who seeks refuge. Participant : Someone who participates in some activity. Victim : A living thing under attack. Fool : Anyone voting for the ANC. Student : A person in the process of studying something. Traitor : A person who betrays someone else. Moegoe : A Blue Bulls Fan.

      Robsschele - 2012-04-02 13:57

      Apelele I think she need to care. If more students take refugee status in WC then the schooling system in WC will suffer. Which then of cause will give the ANC the opportunity to say that the DA cannot run the schools in WC properly.

      Hugo - 2012-04-02 19:42

      maseratifittipaldi let me try.You see,back inthe days when the nats were still gov of this country,they enacted many racist and oppressive legislations one of which was to declare every black South African a foreigner in white SA(the urban areas).In Cape Town,black people were effectively legislated out while the so-called coloureds were preferred.This meant that even if you were born in the Cape,you were still an illegal immigrant.They did this by breaking up the 13% of barren land that was available to blacks,into tribal fiefdoms and dumped black people there depending on their first language.Had these events not been a part of our history ,the term refugees may have not been found to be offensive.HZ should have known better.Also,the term refugee connotes that you are a visitor and you are subject to your host.This goes against the core tenets of these republic,where freedom of movement is a right not a privilege.The enmasse migration of people from E.C to WC is a global phenomenon associated with Urbanization but never has it happened that internal migrants be refered to as refugees.This was a first.HZ seems to get better and better at shooting herself in the foot. Robsschele the DA uses that same tactic to say the ANC is failng to deliver srevices in Gauteng when they know that G.P schools dont only have to make way for millions of internal migrants but also for immigrants.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-02 20:56

      Hugo : I think I understand a bit better now. Your explanation gave me another angle. It is about emotion born in history. Whilst I can try to understand how a person who lived through that time must feel at being confronted with the same demons again (even if they are just imaginary), I don't think it is a good idea to keep these negative emotions alive-to burden our children with this. Perhaps a bit too easy for me to say, but we have been given the opportunity of giving our children a fresh start. We should not sacrifice their future because of our own prejudices and fears. Thanks for taking the time to teach me something.

  • Bongiwe Bongie Mabongz Dlutu - 2012-04-01 01:37

    Dear Helen Zille and your Cabinet I was born in the Eastern Cape and when I can to study at ''WC' u called me a refugee...what were u coming to do in our province in the first place? Ohk....for your information 18 years is still very small, please tell me how black people were treated as from 1652? May you please give South Africans a good chance to improve themselves? 18 years is still nothing dear....plz give us Freedom, we gonna find a way out....in every party there are ups and downs please leave the ANC alone....we Gonna vote for them no matter how corrupt they are...1day they will change. Luckly m from Mandela's birth-place and I don't the ignorance u talking about, im sure u were going to say the leadershp is selfish if they took care of only 1province...in EC we still have hope dea, and ANC is the only party we believe in (1862 to1994) what did your party do? Thankx. Yours faithful South African, Refugee from S.A

      Patiwe - 2012-04-01 02:58

      I am born and bread in the EC, I neva ran to other provinces for better opportunities. It is easy to talk like that when you are enjoying the luxuries that come with good governance from the DA. Why don't you come back and enjoy the suffering we are subjected to by the ANC. A life of misery and hopelesness. This is very ignorant coming from someone who claim to be educcated. Appraising failure won't help. We should be striving for excellence and be proud of ourselves after that, let us not accept mediocrity, we need to have some pride at least. I don't people must not vote ANC, but let us not get used to something that is not taking us anywhere. Ngeke mfana masizithande, futhi sizixabise yhini Bongi.

      Sivinho - 2012-04-02 09:42

      I was born and raised in the Eastern Cape, studied ma LLB and passed in the Eastern Cape and I work in the Eastern Cape and I have been to the Western Cape twice due to varsity sport commitments and I must say that its a beautiful provice in the surburbs but has a lot of shacks. The Eastern Cape has good surburbs as well and shacks so I dont see the difference when it comes to building structure so then it s political affiliation that the problem because DA supporters will say WC is best and EC will tell you that ANC is best...am personaly a PAC supporter but I can tell u that change cannot come in 18 years while the government has a backlog of service delivery dating back 100 of years. EC citizens have been poor for years because most of us were raised in rural area and u cnt compare to the urban WC which is dominated by surburbs and well developed white areas.This debate will always raise racism because blacks blame whites for their suffering and cant trust a white leader, so until the EC is dominated by whites Zilles comments wont convince the black people even though the ANC might be said to be failing because they are the ones who given us hope that blacks can be equal as whites.

  • Bongiwe Bongie Mabongz Dlutu - 2012-04-01 01:37

    Dear Helen Zille and your Cabinet I was born in the Eastern Cape and when I can to study at ''WC' u called me a refugee...what were u coming to do in our province in the first place? Ohk....for your information 18 years is still very small, please tell me how black people were treated as from 1652? May you please give South Africans a good chance to improve themselves? 18 years is still nothing dear....plz give us Freedom, we gonna find a way out....in every party there are ups and downs please leave the ANC alone....we Gonna vote for them no matter how corrupt they are...1day they will change. Luckly m from Mandela's birth-place and I don't the ignorance u talking about, im sure u were going to say the leadershp is selfish if they took care of only 1province...in EC we still have hope dea, and ANC is the only party we believe in (1862 to1994) what did your party do? Thankx. Yours faithful South African, Refugee from S.A

      nolan.brunsdon - 2012-04-02 12:31

      @Bongiwe Study? You are struggling to put together a proper sentence.

  • Bongiwe Bongie Mabongz Dlutu - 2012-04-01 01:38

    Dear Helen Zille and your Cabinet I was born in the Eastern Cape and when I can to study at ''WC' u called me a refugee...what were u coming to do in our province in the first place? Ohk....for your information 18 years is still very small, please tell me how black people were treated as from 1652? May you please give South Africans a good chance to improve themselves? 18 years is still nothing dear....plz give us Freedom, we gonna find a way out....in every party there are ups and downs please leave the ANC alone....we Gonna vote for them no matter how corrupt they are...1day they will change. Luckly m from Mandela's birth-place and I don't the ignorance u talking about, im sure u were going to say the leadershp is selfish if they took care of only 1province...in EC we still have hope dea, and ANC is the only party we believe in (1862 to1994) what did your party do? Thankx. Yours faithful South African, Refugee from S.A

      Brett - 2012-04-01 07:43

      I think that you are a refugee from reality.

      Bongiwe Bongie Mabongz Dlutu - 2012-04-01 08:47

      U just ran out of words neh...hahahaha

      lwando.poni - 2012-04-01 10:55

      You come from Qunu and you still havent seen the corruption there? You must walk with blinkers in your eyes. I stay in Umtata, I stay in Umtata I didnt go to the WC. I see the corruption here every single day of my life. Obviously its easy for you to vote for the ANC to keep it in power because you can even afford to be on the internet. What about the woman who has no legs from Qunu who has been crawling to get her grant for her entire life? Where were you and your dear ANC? You are blinded because you can afford things. Why did you go to the WC if the education here is so great here? People like you are so selfish, just because you are comfortable everyone can go to hell. 18 years is a very very very long time trust me. Theres no need to compete with whites about how long we can make black people suffer. 10 years is more than enough to develop a proper education system, develop infrastructure and make sure people dont starve. What the hell are we paying taxes for? For them to make mistakes with our lives? You must be joking...

      Karen - 2012-04-01 10:56

      Hi Bongiwe, I think your assosication with being called a refugee is a negative one which it should not be - a refugee is a person who because of unfortunate/bad circumstances from their own country/region moves to another country/region in the hope of finding better circumstances - I dont see anything negative about that - when referring to someone as a refugee, it usually involves symphathy that things are so bad for such a person that they often leave family and friends behind in their search for a better life ...

      Hugo - 2012-04-01 14:12

      Bongiwe thats a very poignant missive.If only this woman would find it in her soul to put humanity ahead of political power.By calling black people refugees,she basically poured salt on a (slow) healing wound.I had a chat with a bunch of black UCT,CPUT & UWC students and all were asking the same question'how can we be refugees in our own country?

  • Malizba Liz Mhlanga - 2012-04-01 05:33

    madam Michael Jackson is getting out of control needs to be called into order she must first start liberate WC blacks b4 she insults EC refuges and she also needs to be reminded of what she sees in EC is the outcome of apartheid regime created by her forefathers.

      Msawenkosi - 2012-04-01 06:57

      The truth does not matter who tells it.It will always be the truth.As long we don't admitt our faillures;we are giving madame Zille the platform to sell tickects.

      Brett - 2012-04-01 07:40

      Still blaming apartheid for your uselessness? Find another excuse.

      Shayne - 2012-04-01 10:46

      What the poor EC people are also suffering from is the backpocketing of huge government grants by Kaiser Matanzima and his cronies back in the day. You see, Malizba, we're all South Africans and we all know it's real history despite how much the truth has been covered up by changing the school syllabii etc. However let's let's all look towards the future & improve our lot for everyone.

      Niel - 2012-04-01 15:41

      Malizba,R 5 billion went "missing" from the EC education department last year or the year before.....! Have a look at the WC audit..... No corruption! I live in the Eastern Cape and this place is falling apart - roads,schools,hospitals.....,well actually on par with the rest of the country,except the Western Cape though!

  • Shaun - 2012-04-01 08:16

    eeeeeeerrrrrhhhhhh?

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-04-01 09:00

    after reading some of these comments makes me realise there are none so blind as those that will not see

  • druidpromo - 2012-04-01 09:33

    Liberate your own people in the Western Cape from drug dealers, gangster-ism, poverty and child abuse before making comments about other provinces Zille. You do well to hide it in the Western Cape by highlighting issues in other provinces.

      lwando.poni - 2012-04-01 10:09

      She may be failing in the Western Cape but she is telling the truth. Take it from someone who lives in Mthatha in the Eastern Cape. We could be muuuuuuch better than this but the corruption here is beyind reckoning. I've never seen this kind of incompetence even in movies.

      Hugo - 2012-04-01 14:15

      that is so true.

  • lwando.poni - 2012-04-01 10:06

    Yes yes yes and yes, Zille seems to make more sense each and every day. For those making negative comments yet they dont even know what the EC looks like, please reserve your comments. I live in Umtata within the mist corrupt district municipality you can imagine. A former Mayor's spouse owns a development agency responsible to dispersing GOVERNMENT FUNDS TO SMMEs AND OTHER BUSINESSES & this was while she was in power. What is that really? Government management positions are filled unqualified ANC members who are or mxit and Facebook while you are talking to them. Consumers are being raped off theit money with rotten goods and services because Consumer Protection is useless. Dont get me started on the roads. The national government releases funds like Zuma apparently gave the municipality R2 Billion for the development of infrastructure and we havent seen anything being developed. Educated youths are living this place because they dont have time to be political in order to get work. I'm sure we were better off under Apartheid than we are now. These are dictators of the Mugabe kind.

      Shayne - 2012-04-01 10:51

      This says a lot coming from an Umtata resident. The truth is the truth & I just know that Iwando & millions of other EC people will have much much better lives if they were governed by a honest & transparent party.

      lwando.poni - 2012-04-01 11:12

      True story, the problem is this nonsensical blind devotion and loyalty to an institution that is destroying us. ANC is like a drug and we are addicted to it. I believe we only have two options, revolt within the ANC and remove the executive and current crop of official or vote for other parties. People who are able to afford things are being selfish and so terribly so. If we keep voting for the ANC as it is we are commiting a human crime against the people who cannot afford things, the ones in poverty and uneducated because we know better and we are choosing to deny it. Its sad and if God does exist and he doesnt send us straight for hell, I'm gonna be very surprised.

      Hugo - 2012-04-01 14:16

      Lwando good on you for finding sense in what she is saying.I am sure you will vote for her party.That is democracy at work.

  • Themba - 2012-04-01 11:54

    Second struggle to be led by the party the nats constituency flocked to at the "end of apartheid". This is possibly thee greatest April fools joke ever.

      Eddy - 2012-04-01 13:07

      No Themba if i remember my history the NP dissolved into the ANC.Zille is spot on. Time for deliverance from a failed, corrupt and useless ANC so called government. The ADCP tells us the ANC blows 30 billion a year on stupidity, corruption and theft. What is your comment on this?

      Themba - 2012-04-01 13:49

      Former National Party voters/suppporters were absorbed into the ANC? Goes to show you never can tell hey. Yes, the ANC is corrupt, but if the DA, ACDP or any other opposition party think they'll swing votes their way based solely on that, they're deluded and lazy, anyone voting for the opposition based on the same reason needs to get their heads examined. The only party that can lead a "second revolution" is one that talks to the majority about issues affecting their lives, not one that talks At them about why their constitutionally protected right to vote for a party of their choice is dumb. The DA is not so clean and someone should really get Zille off twitter.

      Hugo - 2012-04-01 14:17

      yes sir to both comments.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-04-02 11:34

      @Themba, why don't you just get off twitter...

  • Thandiwe - 2012-04-01 14:27

    Absolutely!!! And this time we do it for ALL the people, not just a selected few who pretend doing it for all of us. Maybe then we can also start working at healing this country from racism rather than playing on it to stay in power. The DA is definately not all I would like to see in a political party, but they are the only one with integrity who will give us a chance at democracy, not that greedy, incompetent, uneducated rude mob that is presently running this country into the ground. I don't give a damn what colour my leader is, it is the competence that matters and that is NOT the ANC!!!

      Thando - 2012-04-03 12:31

      Get real Thandi if u thnk tht th white man "has yo interests" @ heart. If u thnk tht +300yrs of oppression will b wiped away in 18yrs of clear democracy thn u jst fooling yoself. Unfortunatly our competent leaders wer destroyed by unfair trials, died in detention, necklaced nd became refugees in their land of birth. So plz give th cANCer a chance to normalise ths fragmented society of ours.

  • Kaapseklonk - 2012-04-02 05:59

    Well done once again to Hellen,for telling and standing up for the truth.As proof we have had an influx of foreign African refugee who have fled their countries due to the corrupt goverments of their countries who have stolen the wealth and increased the unemployment of their poor.It exactly the same as what the corrupt ANC have done to the EC.Iam hopeing that the DA expose the corrupt ANC goverment fraud and activities which exposes lots of individuals ,by useing the investigate journalist articles and other sources.And especialy journalists of colour for lots of ANC members will try claiming its propganda ,then because it was written by a journalist of colour they say she/he is betraying the ANC party,which i find mind boggling for the journalist has only revealed the truth.A trillion borrowed by the corrupt ANC goverment mind boggling.

  • Linda - 2012-04-02 09:28

    I dont understand why ANC members worry about Zille she is trying to close the chapter of refugees.During the apartheid era people use to flock to Cape Town,Durban an Jhb thats why there was group areas act.I pity those blacks who ur fooled by a delusional,twisted woman who will do anything to get black votes.I also feel pity for all u white an coloured people who ur dreaming an insulting instead of discussing issues like adults apology to whites an coloureds who ur behaving an discussing issue,anyway there is still roomto teach them about discussing principles not insulting other people.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-04-02 11:36

      Huh?

      Hugo - 2012-04-02 19:49

      you lost me Linda

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-02 10:10

    These guys from EC that are so anti Zille. The message I get, is: -Leave us alone. We are used to and we love our racism. We want to see things in black and white. -We dont mind if the ANC takes 100 years to start delivering service to the people.We dont mind if the ANC creates 5 new cadre billionaires per month, or uses R billions for their own pleasure and glorification. -We are proud of our suffering and our struggling.We are thankful for the ANC which prolongs this condition. We will send our children to study in the WC so they can come back and marvel at our glorious struggle.

  • Manu - 2012-04-02 16:14

    LOL Quite amazing! Ok I have to say this, I don't think that whites in Africa yet have the humility necessary to understand blacks or relate to blacks on an equal level. Now before you get all bothered and rush to call me a racist just listen to what I have to say. A person who casts themselves in the role of a Saviour without being asked operates on the assumption that people need or want saving. Now if in your mind you believe that you need saving you will welcome salvation from a Saviour. But if in your mind you are safe then a person who comes offering salvation will only offend you. Unsolicited salvation is the sign of arrogance, egotism and delusions of grandeur. Any person who has been approached by a bible basher knows what I mean. My advice to my white brothers and sisters is if you are going to approach us (blacks) with offers of salvation then make sure that we want it and most importantly that we want it from you. Make certain that your intentions are pure because we blacks are good at smelling out ulterior motives, we have had 300 years of practice. What I read in that article is blunt manipulation and it will backfire.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-02 17:31

      There we go again...white/black/white/black/white/black/white/black/white/black/white/black/white/black/white/black/white/black/white/black/white/black/white/black... Some nerve this guy from Qunu had. To force his non-racist ideas on us. What arrogance...A better life for all, I ask you! Did he ever bother to consult us? Is this what you mean, Manu?

  • Ricardo - 2012-04-02 16:31

    "the only party that had the values and policies needed to alleviate poverty and reduce unemployment" Get this right in Cape Town. This will prove your statement, for the rest of the Country. Even though i like you, Talk is cheap. Prove with what you have!

  • nkulekweni - 2012-04-02 16:53

    A reader from outerspace (maybe a hitchhiker travelling the galaxy) would be fascinated by the people who call themselves South African. for the majority race defines everything...Zille is white so she cannot rule the black majority...The ANC is black that is why it should not be in government. Very little analysis of real issues because race explains and determines everything. We are doomed...I am waiting for a space ship (vogon?) to crash into eart so I can hitch a ride to a planet where people use their do not allow race and racism to limit their ability to think. Zille is right about a second revolution, those who speak from experience having suffered racism is CT (I have) are also right..but I haev suffered racism in Gauteng as well. I am black and will vote for Zille, she is our only hope right now...not because she is white!!!! but she leads a party that forms some semblance of oppostion to madness that is happening not because people are black but because they are greedy. corruption in South Africa knows no race....The government has been invoiced billions of rands by white service providers for sewrvices worth only thousands of rands...and before the whiteys throw their white is right and always pure ideological drivel at me...educate yourselves.

  • Moketsi - 2012-04-02 18:26

    Go to hell Helen Zille! You run the most racist part of the world and that somehow never crosses your mind. What bothers me is how you forever act all black loving and yet you ignore the racist policies of Stellenbosch University. I just wonder what people fear about an institution that has an obvious exclusion policy. Black non-Afrikaans speaking students suffer there! Black politicians should address this issue and stop fearing that racist Institution!!

  • Frank - 2012-04-05 09:20

    Lets have a second "Chimurenga"