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Education MECs back Motshekga

2012-08-02 22:21

Johannesburg - Education MECs on Thursday reiterated their support for Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga amid calls for her resignation over the Limpopo textbook saga.

"The CEM [council of education ministers] noted with deep disappointment unwarranted media attacks on the basic education sector, in particular, on the character of Minister Angie Motshekga," it said in a statement.

"The sector strongly reaffirms its support, confidence [in] and leadership of the minister."

Calls for Motshekga to quit were sparked by the late or non-delivery of textbooks to schools in Limpopo. Some grades received textbooks seven months after the school year started, while others were still waiting.

At its meeting in Pretoria on Thursday, the CEM said most outcomes in the department's delivery agreement were achieved two years before the targeted date. Under the current administration, improvements in the quality of basic education were made, the CEM said.

The department had received unqualified audit reports for the last three years, and the 70% matric pass rate, a goal set for 2014, were among the aims achieved, according to the CEM.

The government's placing five Limpopo departments, including education, under administration, was an acknowledgement of the problems in the province, it said.

"To drag the entire [education] sector [down] to the limitations and gaps of Limpopo is unfair, particularly in view of the fact that the presidential task team is still probing the causes of the problem."

The CEM said most media reports on the textbook problem had created the impression that the national education department was responsible for procuring textbooks. It was the provincial government's task.

"The impression created by the media that all children in Limpopo did not receive books and tuition is misleading.

"Only learners in Grades one to three and 10 were affected."

The CEM urged Motshekga to tackle any problems, particularly in Limpopo, decisively.

Comments
  • fred.warren.986 - 2012-08-02 22:32

    Angie looks very guilty in the photo above - looks like she was caught red handed stealing sugar from the sugar tin.

      lownabester - 2012-08-02 23:44

      More idiots popping up every day. Whats wrong, nobody brave enough to stand up and say something.

      jo.barton.92 - 2012-08-03 03:01

      This government don't like MEC's that have a mind of their own. You must toe the line and be one of them or else you will be fired.You don't get fired because you are useless, but because you are not a "YES" person.

      gerasimos.komnenus - 2012-08-03 05:35

      MEC = Member of Economic Cleptocracy. The whole lot should be put in an isolation ward on Robben Island before they cause the country to die!

      jason.marriott.33 - 2012-08-03 08:03

      I would go as far as to say this a criminal offense because the department has denied the basic rights of these students. And her been the head of the department should step up and take responsibility!

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-08-03 10:01

      Calling for the head of one person, who has generally been competent is not going to fix this. Make education an essential service so that no one can strike or skive off work without getting fired. Come on Zuma, do something big and exciting for a change that has results!

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-08-03 10:25

      Brainless idiots stick together

  • scouter.fourone - 2012-08-02 22:35

    "Only learners in Grades one to three and 10 were affected." Oh ......... that's acceptable then?

      mlungisi.botha - 2012-08-03 06:09

      lufg

      ianingwe - 2012-08-03 09:37

      The other grades did not get new books this year!

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-08-03 10:02

      well Grades 0-3 can't read so its not a trainsmash... Grade 10s will need a lot of extra support

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-02 22:48

    And here's what we've been complaining about all along. ANC cannot say they're against corruption, worried about incompetence, have moral regeneration month, political schools and STILL stand by their appointee in the face of overwhelming evidence that jobs were not done. Dept of Edu must still explain why there are different acquisition models for different schools. The schools that don't have the likes of EduSolutions forced on them & acquire direct from the suppliers do not have these problems. This is a neat bit of deflection on Dept of Edu's part - something that so far no-one has called them to account for. Everyone is so keen to see heads [not]roll that the systemic inequalities are being missed.

  • pat.aldrich.96 - 2012-08-02 22:54

    As long as the cover up policy is defended and a no responsible attitude is retained good bye any good education and goverment

  • Gerda Malherbe - 2012-08-02 23:04

    If Angie is not guilty, all these idiots in the CEM - the privincial MECs for Edu - must be, so fire the lot of them!

      Sean Wasserman - 2012-08-02 23:45

      In particular the Limpopo MEC for education.

  • malusi.shumane.7 - 2012-08-02 23:10

    This is pathetic!!! Angie is responsible one way or the other. Even if it's a Limpopo based clerk who was tasked with work Angie is still to blamem. How? This is like this: Angie-MEC-District Director-etc-etc-then poor Clerk. Then how is Angie innocent here? What is she resposible for?

      margaret.brand.12 - 2012-08-03 07:37

      A bad workman always blames his tools

  • lownabester - 2012-08-02 23:47

    You scrath my back and I will do the same. Bloody bunch of imbeciles.

  • Lennon Chenga - 2012-08-03 00:35

    There just seems to be a lot of indecision when it comes to getting rid of non performing top government officials!! Isn't it her job to know what is taking part in her department? If it did slip her attention, now that she knows, what has she as the Minister done to bring the culprits to book? The DA is the one that ended up filling a criminal charge. At worst she will be moved to another ministry. If she can't bring the culprits to book, she should just do the honorable thing and step down!

      Bless Boswell - 2012-08-03 06:17

      Maybe this is the upward management training program. Authenticated and practiced exclusively by the ANC. If top management is seriously flawed how can the rest be sound?

  • rontheogre - 2012-08-03 01:31

    MEC's that shows support to Motshekga have now directly voiced their support for mediocrity, the quality to be strived for in our government. Her achievements thus far: Under her it took 7 months to see to it that children in Limpopo had books; A 70% pass rate for matrics was achieved by LOWERING THE FAIL MARK TO 30%, thus ensuring that anybody with a brain capacity slightly larger than a slug WILL pass; a large percentage of teachers are unable to pass the tests meant for the learners whose future rests in the hands of these teachers; A shortage of an estimated 25 000 teachers country wide. It is she that should be getting the honorary degrees instead of Zuma, for being such an utter failure.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-03 02:40

      Yes the fact that universities are up-in-arms because so many of the new intakes can't read or write, doesn't reflect very well on the standard of Matric nowadays. So lowering the bar in order to achieve a higher passrate is hardly an achievement. The ANC, celebrating mediocrity since 1994.

  • david.diego.14 - 2012-08-03 02:41

    MEC who must be blamed for the damage the minister have already done to our children!!

  • toofaan.monsoon - 2012-08-03 03:28

    Birds of a feather ... !! It's not surprising that these dopes cannot understand the concept of how accountability works. Heck, they figure that knowing less than a third of your work is good enough to pass. Should get rid of the whole lot fast before even the scant hope that remains is lost.

  • cindy.wrathex.ruthven - 2012-08-03 04:57

    "Only learners in Grades one to three and 10 were affected." Only ? Shows an attitude of carelessness about the seriousness of this issue. There is a fundamental lack of understanding of the critical importance of education, which is very disheartening and I agree that the Minister should be fired for letting down so many young learners and for taking her job serious - she has failed and must leave.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-08-03 05:51

      Only grades 1, 2, 3 and 10 were affected? Grades one, two and three are the most impressionable and important in terms of a child's educational building blocks while Grade 10 is half way through high school. Where did the powers that be get the idea that they can catch up over the holidays? We are talking 4 out of a total of 12 school going years here - we are talking one third of the total number of years. This is a disaster for the young people in question. The reasons for this mess have not been made clear. There is a cover up and the country's youngest and most vulnerable citizens are the ones who have to pay the price. someone's head has to roll, and the matter needs to be put right. Enough pussy footing.

  • joyce.kweyama - 2012-08-03 05:13

    SHE WAS INCOMPETENT. THAT CANNOT BR DENIED... NOT A SINGLE GRADE OF LEARNERS SHOULD AT ANY TIME GO WITHOUT BOOKS. IM SUPRISED THAT HER BEHAVIOUR IS CONDONED BECAUSE 3 GRADES WERE AFFECTED BY THE ABSENCE OF BOOKS. SA IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY STILL RECOVERING FROM APARTHEID. AT THIS RATE IT MAY TAKE DECADES TO BE IN TOP FORM

      tw2066 - 2012-08-03 05:39

      Not was - IS - incompetent. She is determined to screw up more kids. Hope you get over that apartheid thing, its only been 18 years since.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-08-03 06:11

      Joyce, the country is still in recovery, but some entities are till in ICU. Why is that? There is no excuse for that. Who gave anyone in government the right to misappropriate funds intended for the education of the children? That is theft, plain and simple. If I steal from my boss, chances are I'll go to jail. Why is the same rule not applied in government? People are suspended on full pay, and very often sit at home for long periods. Who pays for that? We do. Instead of stepping in in 1994 and showing the country what they could do, the ANC stepped in and immediately began plundering the coffers. Nothing has improved other than the bank balances of the pigs at the trough.

      fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-08-03 08:15

      JOYCE stop screaming - typing in capitals is screaming and as such very rude. I agree with you. Pulling the apartheid card in the second to last sentence - mistake. Why? Our eductation was apparently not 100% as far as black learners was concerned in 94. The rest of the system was world class. The ANC then went and pulled every one down to the lowest level - end of argument. Prior to 94 we had engineers working on a space program down in Bredasdorp, we where designing the replacement for Cheetah fighter the CAVA, the Rooivalk attack helicopter, we had world renowned scientists and engineers by the score - we even had Mandela. ....now? So recovering from apartheid? Why for nearly 2 decades? England was back on their feet after WW2 and within 5 years had actually hosted an Olympic games - here there was a functioning system, a solid foundation, yes one that needed some tweaking to make it working properly for all. Now it is a mess

  • Juanne-pierre De Abreu - 2012-08-03 05:26

    I don't care that kids in Limpopo are dumb. Why should I? The standard of education is so poor, what exactly is in that text book that you can't find in the kiddies education section of the YOU magazine?

      roslyndavidrose - 2012-08-03 08:34

      I agree. Teachers are repeatedly blamed for poor education, but only teachers have held schools together for the past dozen years while Educ Dept has caused more chaos than believed possible. Teachers have found resources because there have been textbook delivery problems for years despite the time-consuming aquisition forms that schools are compelled to complete each year. Even schools who are told that they will not get any allocation have to fill them in, find prices and suppliers, etc, etc. So why blame one Minister alone? She inherited this garbage. Problem is that teachers no longer manage to carry the load after all the crap and negativity is piled on their shoulders. NOW non delivery of textbooks etc etc etc comes to light

  • tw2066 - 2012-08-03 05:35

    ANCs brand of DEMOCRACY in action. The people want Motsicko out, but a few in power realise that working for a usless cretin who takes six months to realise whats going on is an easy life - so the few decides for the many? And 60% of the populace will vote ANC again despite the fact that the ANC has destroyed their kids education - ???

  • thenga.pfananani - 2012-08-03 05:39

    Let them back each other on extremely poor service delivery and we will also back each other on voting polls

      nompumelelo.madonda - 2012-08-03 08:05

      Well stated!

  • gerasimos.komnenus - 2012-08-03 05:43

    "Only learners in Grades one to three and 10 were affected." Only R30 billion was wasted by government last year. Only some of our roads are in total disrepair. SAA only needs R6 billion to stay aloft.....etc. Typical of ANC attitude. No dedication. No competence. No leadership. No accountability! The ANC's standards appear to be so much lower than even the old Nats in every arena of government. Is this so they can think they are succeeding or prove they are "struggling"? I'm afraid they really really really really don't have a clue that they are failing at every level.

  • edna.errenrich - 2012-08-03 05:50

    Under her 70% of matrics pass. WTF a small stick could pass when the pass mark is 30%. This means that she accepts that the kids here are only 30% competent - this is why they cant get work i want someone who has passed with at least 60%

      bakers.dozen.14 - 2012-08-03 06:54

      my bunch of 30 workers all have matric but it still takes me 3-5 years after employing them to get the basic understanding that 30% is not acceptable but that we need 99% of the work going out of a factory to be correct and to survive and 100% would be better. Big problem. Learners need a culture change as well as an education change. Fire her useless butt

      fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-08-03 13:33

      We can't even say we are celebrating mediocrity - because the education system is not even mediocre

  • claude.a.rossouw - 2012-08-03 05:53

    Just take a good look at Angie,does that look like a women that knows what she's doing?

      bakers.dozen.14 - 2012-08-03 06:55

      question : Would you give her a job?

  • paul.duplessis - 2012-08-03 06:40

    They are all part of the ANC's band of robbers. What do you expect!?

  • herman.heil - 2012-08-03 06:53

    Luckily they got the culprit for all this, Verwoerd, he is busy laughing his ass off though...........anc = idiots!

  • john.tserema - 2012-08-03 07:05

    Its not amazing dat most of de mec r supoting failed education minister as they ve failed de provinces also

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-08-03 07:06

    In any civilized country, run by civilized leaders, a minister would voluntarily have resigned for failing!

  • reubenk3 - 2012-08-03 07:12

    the damage has already been done, inorder to save her tarnished image the minister should just resign, and let those that are competent enough to do the job, she has proven that she is very much incapable, the year has come to an end, how will the delivery of textbooks now help learners i mean its august?

  • andrew.peace2 - 2012-08-03 07:15

    You can commit murder, or treason and you will be let off. Just to name one person our ex commissioner of police. Be a boeremag member and you will be spending the rest of your life in c-max pretoria. Why do we have to put up with such incompetence is beyound me. Please, we have to stand up as one person in south africa and vote these incompetents out of office, otherwise we are going to end up being dragged down the toilet and become another African Basket case. Zuma, become proactive and do something about the "It is not my responsibility " brovado.

  • Xolani Gazu - 2012-08-03 07:29

    The benefits of having an ANC chief whip as your husband. I bet even the President can't touch her.

  • joe.irwin.50 - 2012-08-03 07:29

    The support of the incompetent by the incompetent.

  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-08-03 07:39

    The MECs know they will be next in the line of should Motshekga get the boot. I am bit disturbed by some racial comments here. If a black person is in the wrong or perceived to be incompetent , the noise becomes unbearably loud. But if the target changes to be white, we get the graveyard silence. When the Nats were leading the apartheid government, nobody criticized them with the amount of venom that is spat against the ANC government. Had the Nats regime given a black child the same opportunity that white children had , majority of blacks would also have access to news24 and voice their opinions.

      jo.vankatwijk - 2012-08-03 07:53

      "Fortunately" for the Nats and "unfortunately" for the ANC we now have social media where one can vent feelings. In the days of the Nats all one could do was stand in protest, holding placards, as the Black Sash used to do. Times were very different then.

  • sisie.indola - 2012-08-03 07:50

    Anc will back Angie to the grave unless Zuma says otherwise. They are chommies and cadres and nothing anyone says will change that. If Zuma gives the thumbs down, you will hear all sorts of stories and how everyone in the know knew that she was to blame - oh to be a cadre/chommie - can do no wrong unless the godfather of the present says so. What are we coming to? It seems as though we are being ruled by fear and total bullying.

  • jason.marriott.33 - 2012-08-03 08:01

    Supporting failure that's what we want in the education department. Well done ANC another great win for the people "Family and Friends"

  • KCorsar - 2012-08-03 08:24

    Why is a PRESIDENTIAL task team needed, what is wrong with her own department knowing what is happening within her 'area of responsibility' this support is nothing more than 'cadre protectionism' and complete BS. She should go, in the private sector a shambles of this magnitude would see the 'CEO/MD' fired, not asked to resign; but then PUBLIC sector officials seem to forget that they are there to SERVE the population in terms of the CONSTITUTION, instead they are hell bent on lining their own pockets and scurrying for cover under the blanket of 'ever powerful organs within the ANC'. Fire the incompetent woman and all her equally poorly suited MEC's in under performing provinces - Limpop, Eastern Cape are on top of the list for starters................

  • sipho.zipi - 2012-08-03 08:37

    I wonder whether they really support her , or they have been coerced to do so .

  • roslyndavidrose - 2012-08-03 08:39

    Let's move on now. Can the Educ Dept start delivering next years textbooks NOW so that teachers can get on with what they do best when they are not being blamed for apathy higher up?

  • Erna - 2012-08-03 08:49

    And .... because they support her, and it is very obvious why they do, we must now all sit back and say 'well done!'

  • sisie.indola - 2012-08-03 09:08

    I just have to say this - i am surprised that nothing regarding the education crises has come from the man himself - Nelson Mandela, he who purports to be all for the children & education. But silence speaks louder than words. Hey i know he is ancient but really there are a lot of spokes people around him - but not a peep.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-08-03 09:44

    It seems the truth hurts. If these same MEC's were also in the firing line I wonder how fast the real truth would come out and if they would still support angie. The reason for supporting her is that they are all negligent. They should all be fired. Problem miss angie is zoomers ticket for support by the ANCWL, we saw how excited they all got when the spear saga was on. They came out guns blazing, now the ever so quiet on the most important thing for their children, them all being mothers should be speaking out, yet they cower in the corner. I wonder what President Obama would have done in this situation or even his wife Michelle. I sure she would have spoken out. Come the end of the year, guaranteed the are going to gippo the pass marks and state that the catch up system worked, so whats our problem. just wait and watch.

      george.sieberhagen - 2012-08-03 10:15

      I actually would like to support fanie.gerber1972 - earlier this year I sent the following letter to the editor of our local newspaper. It was a response to an earlier "response" of the Communcation manager at our local Municipality to a rather satirical "article" by one of the regular contributers, Hannes Engelbrecht. Hannes's satirical contention had been that, if we looking only at the white population of our "city", and we take away all of the students and the pupils, our "city" will be reminiscient of a rather small town. I shall have to place my letter in different parts: "Dear Sir I wish to respond to some of Mr Willie Maphosa’s views expressed in “My opinion” on p. 10 of the Potchefstroom Herald of 4 May 2012.05.07 Despite the fact that the Editor had “introduced” Hannes Engelbrecht’s view (“Anatomie van ’n stad op lug gebou” (Potchefstroom Herald, 27 April 2012, p. 6)) with the sentence, “Hannes Engelbrecht kyk uit ’n moedswillige oog na Potchefstroom” (and quite rightly so, because it seems as if Hannes intended to do some mischievous “stirring”!), Mr Maphosa criticizes Hannes for excluding Promosa and Ikageng when giving unemployment figures. But that is/was the whole point in Hannes’s “argument” – he wanted to focus on the “white” part of the population! (Incidentally, are there valid and reliable figures available as to the unemployment figures for Ikageng and Promosa?" However, what to me is really disturbing, and at the same time sadd

      george.sieberhagen - 2012-08-03 10:20

      I actually would like to support fanie.gerber1972 - (2) "However, what to me is really disturbing, and at the same time saddening, are the following sentences written by Mr Maphosa: “He then goes on to lament the possible demise of the Afrikaaner (sic) student in the local campus and its likely degeneration into what became of the agricultural college. We need not decry the demise of exclusive enclaves of white privilege. We all have to accept that the country has set itself firmly on an irreversible road of inclusivity and transformation.” Is it thus OK that the agricultural college has already gone down the drain, and that the Potchefstroom campus of the NWU is to follow? At what financial cost to this country, in which citizens already have to cope with non-existent or poor service delivery – the demise of which can be largely attributed to “transformation” that has gone wrong? It seems to me as if some people just want to see that just about everything that hints of “enclaves of white privilege” is transformed (read: broken down to the ground); just for the sake of transformation. (“Funnily”/luckily enough, not everything – examples are the Union Buildings and the local Banquet Halls.) I, personally, do not like the word “enclave” – to me it “reeks” of Bosnia and the atrocities that took place there."

      george.sieberhagen - 2012-08-03 10:22

      I actually would like to support fanie.gerber1972 - (3): "Another sad (and striking) local example of “transformation” that had a political objective, but which had brought no relief to its “inhabitants”, is the name-change which Botha Street underwent to become Chris Hani Street. In the Apartheid days, people sat next to Botha Street, in the hope that someone would come and offer them temporary employment. Nowadays, they sit next to Chris Hani Street – for the same purpose! We are very much aware of the wrongs which had been committed in the past, and the human and economic suffering which it brought about. The saying, “Two (or more) wrongs do not make one right” is an apt one for the situation in which we find ourselves. Rather than waste our time and money - why do we not make use of the structures which are already in place and tackle the problems which confront us? Why, for instance, do we not rather “tackle” the job seekers next to Chris Hani Street? Yours sincerely George Sieberhagen"

  • ntsepep - 2012-08-03 09:49

    It will not help the anyone by replacing politicians only in the department,wherelse the dysfunctional administration is still not held accountable for their incompetence in this case.

  • alice.pretorius - 2012-08-03 09:55

    An independent investigation will determine the chain of events leading up to this disaster and should pinpoint every employee who were involved. In the Honourable Minister's defence, whether guilty or not, what has she got to work with? Competent staff? I seriously doubt it.

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-08-03 10:40

    "Only learners in Grades one to three and 10 were affected." um HELLO minister!!!!! grades 1- 3 are the most crucial years of a learner thats why its called the foundation phase, FOUNDATION = the base on which something stands.

  • kindness.sweet - 2012-08-03 11:02

    who should then be fired if not her???? who is the ceo of this department??

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-03 11:42

    well of course they are going to back her. They all have their fingers in the same cookie jar.

  • lmapheto - 2012-08-03 12:44

    I was born in the Free State, and i owe my rich up-bringing to Limpopo where i found the treasures of this world...blessed with a wonderful partner who is originally from Limpopo...and Something tells me the minister of basic education with very little to do is from Limpopo...her job was cut in half to provide security and prestige to the razer...now even after all her colleagues have the audacity to support her to fail Limpopo? The General was fired in a heart-beat for maladministration, the country’s best academics where hired and paid to ridicule one of their own just for building leases...now your children and mine’s future is compromised and nothing is done about it...what really is important to us as South Africans...What are our priorities?

      fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-08-03 13:35

      Indeed - vote with your feet. Limpopo is a beautiful place, that is being driven into the ground by the ANC - soon it will be a wasteland

  • nathaniel.kgokong.3 - 2012-08-07 08:58

    i totaly dont get this does it mean a grade one pupil must attend extra classes who is going to pay for her transport and if you come to think of it she is not the only one to blame why didnt the principals of those schools make plans to fetch those books in the first place cause they are managers in their respective schools this is a mess she must go instead of making a better life for us she is making it bad she must go period is high time our votes work for us not against us they must do what is intended they know it we know it the right to education was compromised so we dont need to argue this she must just leave peacefully viva to our democracy viva and please dont make this a racial thing our kids are having a difficult time as it is let us not make it worse the future of our kids is more important than polotics

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