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Education: Move on, says Phosa

2012-08-06 22:54

Johannesburg - Great strides have been made in education, but the problems caused by the apartheid system still remain, Unisa council chairperson and ANC Treasurer Mathews Phosa said on Monday.

"We cannot ignore the devastating effects that the apartheid education system had on our people. We will not achieve any of our goals by looking back.

"We must look forward, and take full responsibility for the tasks assigned to us by the electorate."

He was speaking at the Thabo Mbeki African Leadership Institute graduation in Pretoria.

He said these were issues inherent in the educational sphere and the discourse went beyond party politics.

Poverty remained a significant barrier to education.

"According to the SA Human Rights Commission, children in the poorest households are nearly three times less likely to complete secondary schooling, and for those who are able to attend school, the quality of education is not uniform.

"This has the possibility to affect children across the generations," said Phosa.

Comments
  • nicholas.graan - 2012-08-06 23:02

    Oh dear Phosa ...you as well?

      kayley.segal - 2012-08-06 23:18

      The fact of the matter is that you don't want the masses to be educated. When they can read and analyze information, they will see how you and your kind are stealing the money that should be improving their lives. They will see that your party is corrupt and self-serving. They will see that constantly blaming "the apartheid system" is a cover for your corruption and incompetence. Pay the teachers, deliver the books, feed the students or shut your pie-hole.

      ScratbyHud - 2012-08-06 23:22

      As usual, the ANC have a long inventory of excuses.

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-08-06 23:37

      Nicholas.graan see how badly educated Mathews is ............. and that under an Apartheid Government. With today's ANC education system he would be lucky to get a job at all.

      Voiceinthedesert.co.za - 2012-08-07 00:09

      is it not funny how these useless bastards always cover up their mistakes by saying it's the apartheid era, almost 20 yrs later these bastards are still as useless as before, and they still blaming apartheid, shame when are they ever gonna realize the problem lies within?

      mihaip007 - 2012-08-07 04:02

      I am confused by his statement: "We cannot ignore the devastating effects that the apartheid education system had on our people. We will not achieve any of our goals by looking back. " We "cannot ignore (the past)", and at the same time "we will not achieve anything by looking BACK"! Am I missing something here? Do these people speak just without actually understanding what they are saying?

      blue.spheric - 2012-08-07 06:14

      OH DEAR!!! yet again the 'Apartheid Era' is used as an excuse for failure within our government departments. According to my calculations...it is now 20 years later, which means a Grade 1 student in the 'New SA'...would have matriculated by now?? Most of our current educational staff are students who were in the second half of their senior years at school 20 years back and became teachers within the 'New SA'...even the one most important decision maker within our government, our Minister of Education has had 20 years of educational 'freedom'...and quite a few years of pleasured lifestyle where information has been fed to her by highly educated people on a daily basis. HOW THEN...MAY I ASK...CAN AN EDUCATED AND INFORMED PERSON SUCH AS MR. PHOSA SAY...THAT "We cannot ignore the devastating effects that the apartheid education system had on our people."...WHICH PEOPLE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Mr. Phosa...the ones who are already working and earning a decent wage?...the people you SHOULD be talking about, are the people who are currently TRYING to be educated by our failed system. What problems - which were caused by the 'Apartheid System; still remain??? what the HELL are you talking about...the failures we see today are caused by YOUR STAFF MR. PHOSA...YOUR ANC CADERS WHO CANNOT address the ROOT CAUSE for the standard of low level education that our poor children are taught in!!

      blue.spheric - 2012-08-07 06:17

      NEVER ONCE IN ALL HISTORY did the so called 'Apartheid Era' fail to deliver books to their students SEVEN MONTHS INTO A NEW SCHOOL YEAR!! You also say..."We will not achieve any of our goals by looking back"...AG PALEEEEEZE MAN....all you FAT CATS DO...is smoke your cigars..enjoy your sushi...and find ways to 'look back'...because its the only damned excuse you can find for your TOTAL AND UTTER FAILURES OF THE ..NOW!!!

      handy.andy.773 - 2012-08-07 09:07

      Absolutely pathetic

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:09

      Textbooks being dumped in Limpopo in 2012 is apartheid's fault? Really!?!?

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:22

      http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/5-000-dumped-textbooks-found-in-Limpopo-20120807

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-08-07 12:01

      Get principles with management qualifications to turn the schools around. They don't need to be teaching, they need to be motivating and managing staff and parent bodies to put in the work. If you wait for the government to fix this we will never get anywhere.

      jo.barton.92 - 2012-08-07 12:50

      Of course there were great strides made in education. Have you seen how big strides they take when toyi-toying during school time?Ok, seriously, what happened 100 or 200 years ago when there was no such thing as apartheid?Whose fault was it that you had no education. Don't blame everyone else for that.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-08-07 14:17

      Back in the days of Apartheid they complained about the basic education they received that enabled them to go to any of the 21 universities and become something. People like Mandela, Gerwel, Ramaphele etc all got their university degrees because of apartheid education. I wonder what they will say if you tell them today that their education was inferior. Yet the blacks were burning down the schools faster than we could build them and we were building schools to the tune of 600 classrooms per day! At least we were building schools…Today the ANC are closing schools left right and centre…900 schools per year. Many more to follow. 4500 public schools closed by the ANC in the last five years 27 schools closed in the Western Cape http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2012/01/19/thousands-of-schools-closed http://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/closure-of-schools-a-last-resort-1.1318102

      josta.shivuri - 2012-08-07 15:22

      The ANC is now desperate, really! An excuse seemingly offer some kind of a "feel-good-feeling" because subconsciously you wrongly opine that "it is not your fault" even when you have contributed to the failure. The noble thing in such cases is to take responsibility of your own contribution rather than pointing fingers because we can equally point a finger to you - Mr Phosa. The ANC desperately seeks to make the people believe that they are "still" victims of the past even after we were sat free. No doubt that there could be systematic problems that are a legacy of apartheid but for how long should this excuse be applicable? Are we to remain victims forever? Japan has turned around their economy within 20 years - after America has destroyed it with atomic bombs - hence they used to be 2nd in the world before the recent Tsunami.

      christopher.saint.3386 - 2012-08-08 10:56

      @phosa..your kind are just too lazy and thick. Thats all it is...its in your genetic make up. this is why the sad excuses come out to the fore. It will never change. You are born this way... you will always have the club in your hands (violence) to sort out western ideas.

  • bernpm - 2012-08-06 23:03

    Was it really "apartheid" or was it also the movement for "liberation before education" ?? and......what has the ANC done since 1994 to reduce the effects of "apartheid". .....same story now: "making a province ungovernable" by being obnoxiously destructive. Please man, grow up.

      amanda.victor.92 - 2012-08-07 00:41

      'Great strides have been made in education' - I wish they'd tell us what these great strides are. Seems to me the kids come out dumber under the ANC. And if poverty is the problem, then why do the ANC steal so much money from their own people? All talk and NO action as usual from the ANC.

      wesley.nel.5 - 2012-08-07 05:29

      "Great strides have been made in education", Phosa, just clarify, in which direction, for me it seems in the wrong direction

      mike.dufham.7 - 2012-08-07 09:59

      Phosa was educated during the Apartheid era. That makes him a product of the so called "cr@p" system. That means he has only got to his current position as a result of BEE.

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:10

      Textbooks being dumped in Limpopo in 2012 is apartheid's fault? Really???? Retard logic: It only makes sense to retards.

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:23

      http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/5-000-dumped-textbooks-found-in-Limpopo-20120807

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-08-07 14:28

      In the year 2000 about 1,5million children started school. Of these only about 500000 wrote matric last year. This means that during 12 years, the schooling system lost almost a million pupils. Almost a million children who started school in the year 2000 dropped out before matric. We must ask President Zuma what the democratic government has done with a million of our children. We have lost these pupils under ANC rule so no need to blame apartheid.

      KennyGrass - 2013-04-04 12:01

      It is also apartheid's fault that 35% of all school going kids are suffering with aids.

  • mike.boylen - 2012-08-06 23:05

    If after all these years you haven't sorted out the problems, then the fault is yours, not apartheid.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-08-07 14:50

      One of the chief culprits in explanations of modern black poverty is the education system attributed to apartheid. Far from being the victim of the white state, modern black education was created by it. Black education has been retrogressing ever since. By the late 1970s black education staggered precipitously, and was then floored by a rising tide of political activism & violence. The Soweto riots of 1976, initiated in the schools presaged a full-scale onslaught in the 1980s & 1990s. The schools became a battleground of choice for blacks which was embraced by the ANC & other black political organizations. The campaign of murder, political intimidation & destruction of state property & assets sought to destroy all institutions in black areas related to the state. School buildings, teachers, headmasters, inspectors, textbooks, equipment & learning in general became targets. A long period of decline in examination results set in, from a 70% pass rate in the early 1970s to a 30% pass rate by the mid 1990s. BTW this pass rate represents an absolutely minimal standard, with few students attempting science & maths, & precious few entering university. Moreover, the conditions of anarchy created in urban schools especially have persisted & even worsened after the transition to black rule. The ANC government is rapidly discovering that money does not in itself produce results & will not improve black education much if at all.

  • rlong1952 - 2012-08-06 23:05

    What strides have been made in education? None, zero, zip, just gone backwards and after so many years in control the ANC is still playing the Apartheid card to cover up for their inefficiencies. What a doorknob.

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-08-06 23:44

      The Apartheid card will always be played and whites will always be racist eighteen years on.

  • mundu.olewega - 2012-08-06 23:09

    Great strides? At least under apartheid all the kids got school books month one. What a chop. You are the idiot of the day Poosa.

      joe.irwin.50 - 2012-08-07 01:54

      Mr Phosa failed to inform us of the direction. The only strides made in education have been backwards.

      alan.gernet - 2012-08-07 08:11

      Is Phosa spelled correctly?

  • jimi.harrison.7 - 2012-08-06 23:12

    The anc have been in power for 18 years and still could not and can not improve education!! Now they blame apartheid? What's apartheid got to do with the poor attendance, no school books, Absent teachers, kids vandalising schools!!!!! Blame the new regime! idiot!!!!

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-08-06 23:15

    The whole of the ANC heirachy is taking the same line of argument - blaming apartheid. I suspect that they are shaping to absolve Angie of any wrongdoing in the Limpopo textbook crisis (sorry, textbook challenge). Talk about cutting off one's nose to spite the future of the country's children!

  • rvbrink - 2012-08-06 23:15

    Grow up Phosa and get a life. 20 years after apartheid ended you still want to cry "apartheid" Should it not rather be the gravy train for the select few ANC that should get the blame???

  • rvbrink - 2012-08-06 23:23

    Go read this Limpopo contractor bonus 'abuse' - DA article as well idiot "

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:25

      link: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/5-000-dumped-textbooks-found-in-Limpopo-20120807

  • fyrguy65 - 2012-08-06 23:28

    Actually Matthew, you don't mind if I call you Matt for short... a little worried you might battle with some of the big words... Anyway... what the problem is is not Apartheid anymore... no... it's the ANC's inate inability to visualize the big picture and instead get caught up in corruption and self interest at the cost of meaningful development of infrastucture and investment in the future of South Africa.. The problem Matt is not the failures of apartheid anymore but the complete lack of the ANC's ability to find themselves wanting. The ANC would rather use the weak and completely overused excuse of apartheid than admit they simply don't have the stomach for real governance for the people... simply put the ANC is a defacto example of another inept revolutionary movement blinded by it's history so that meaningful civil service and service delivery are lost in the dark pit of corruption, nepotism, cronyism, tenderpreneurship and a host of other cadre related issues. However, feel free to illustrate how the textbook debacle of Limpopo has it's roots in apartheid... this should be a very entertaining discssion... and many young South Africans in the Limpopo region will have to try and explain to their next generation why it is that the so called liberation movement failed to do exactly that !!!!

      gary.wilby.18 - 2012-08-08 12:34

      100% Corect, GIVE THAT MAN A BELLS

  • sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-08-06 23:32

    Mathews, I also blame Apartheid for everything, I blame it for all the stupid people in government and poor service delivery, I also blame Verwoerd for the lack of school books not delivered in 2012. I blame Apartheid for all the educated people within the ANC who vote un-educated people into seats of power................, but lets not forget the ANC has had 18 (YES, EIGHTEEN)years to fix things. Instead they've spent that time stealing via tenders, credit cards, positions of power and a million other ways they've say they learnt from Apartheid. Under Apartheid I had respect for my land, my people and my Government, the ANC has removed that pride.

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-08-06 23:58

      Twenty five years back you could work overseas because you were educated pre-1994 in South Africa. Today you can't get work overseas if you were educated post 1994 in South Africa. And the ANC says education has got better :(

      alan.gernet - 2012-08-07 08:13

      well - the ANC has gotten better at 'adjusting' the marks that the students get.Doesnt make them clever, or help them to improve their lives though.

  • Erna - 2012-08-06 23:45

    Till this government stops blaming apartheid for all the problems in this country and takes some responsibility, things will never improve, and it suits them to make the masses believe this as well.

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:26

      Things won't improve under the ANC, they dump textbooks: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/5-000-dumped-textbooks-found-in-Limpopo-20120807

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-08-06 23:56

    Phosa should just say no more, the bastard has two salaries and now he says nonsense after all these years, please.

  • KCorsar - 2012-08-06 23:58

    Yawn, will this word ever NOT be used to blame something by the ANC, is this the mantra used to garner sympathy votes! 1990-2 the schooling system dropped racial divides and admitted scholars regardless of colour - in the years since 1994 the ANC has done nothing but blame the past. How much money has been stolen / wasted / plundered which could have by now given all South Africans a decent roof over their head and FREE basic education So stop blaming the past, GET your OWN house in order and when you can produce a 100% pass rate across all grades then stand on your soap box and SHOUT out loud - we did it better! Until then STFU about the past. The youth of today dont know what on earth you are talking about, as they have no books that teach them

  • tshivhombelaf - 2012-08-07 00:32

    I was educated under apartheid system and I am far more better than democratic SA OBE products. I suppose there was no education education before colonial era so are we can still blame colonialists for bringing education if that's the case. I've never heard Germany blaming cold war, let alone WWII. Owning a mistake by referring to apartheid is as irresponsible as apartheid itself. There is a lot going on, from nepotism, lack of service delivery, maladministration to tenderpreneurship etc., are these also results of apartheid? I wander if the grave of apartheid is in Limpopo haunting the tenderpreneurs to be unable to deliver text books on time.

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-07 07:33

      well said man, eish these guys & their lame excuses

      merven.halo - 2012-08-07 07:47

      True words tshivhombelaf, funny how you'll never see such intelligent remarks from black youngsters. Clearly the youngsters get brainwashed by the ANC propaganda.

  • Wilhelm - 2012-08-07 00:43

    DO what they have in Zimbabwe, introduce the O and A level system. An extra year at school, but that's fine - kids get an internationally recognised qualification (none of this 30%pass to get a matric) and off you go. Why is it that Zimbabweans are so much better educated than South Adfricans of all races? Why do they get the jobs and not South Africans? Because they're educated. And that despite having a Mugabe in charge. Unlike South Africa, in Zimbabwe political interference with a well running education system didn't happen whereas in SA, under the Nats, with their Christian National nonsense and now the ANC with their incompetence and what have you, SAfricans must be among the stupidest people in the world. But at least under the Nats, everyone learned to read and write and could make a few sums. But now? Stampeding back to the Stone Age...

      john.roux.31 - 2012-08-08 15:30

      Agree with your thoughts Sponge - maybe with one change. The ANC will never agree to introducing a British educational system in SA, no matter how good it is. So how about looking at introducing the best educational system in the world, as rated by established world surveys. That system will come from the East, and it will remove all trace of apartheid / British prejudice from the issue. THEN ...... let's see how good we really are (or aren't!) and go from there unemotively and objectively. Aiming for the very best ought to be our goal, rather than the disgusting and pathetic present efforts. We're currently ranked nearly last in world education, despite all the resources at our disposal. Why can't you give our country a bit of vision mr Phosa, or are you afraid that you and your cronies will be shown up for what the are!

  • hassiem.fisher1 - 2012-08-07 05:30

    @Kayley - I fully agree with your statement. It is easy to prey on the poor 's emotion and feed them all this rubbish. 18 years later and the education system is still blamed on the Apartheid Regime. WOW, and the ANC could not get it right with the promise they made to the masses about education, R40 million on parties, golden handshakes to officials that are corrupt or moved around, Municipalities either close to bankruptcy or bankrupt and you still have the Minister of Education in her post. what a joke. Take a stand and fire her. President of the Womans League should not scare a government that claims to stand for strong ethics, transparency and accountability. ANC stand up and take responsibility and accountability

  • piet.boerie - 2012-08-07 05:33

    Whe cornered blame someone else. The Alliance are master of diverting any attention away from their failures. The alliance by having partners are always deflecting the blame to others in the Alliance or the trump card Aparthied. Matt you have now overplayed this card wat too many times and its not sticking anymore. How dumb do you think we are? Yes thank-you for ending Apartheid but the war is over 20 years ago and its time for a new mindset of creation and liberation through education. Its time for those stuck in the lst centruy to move over for the new leaders.

  • gregory.jurgens - 2012-08-07 05:33

    Apartheid is also to blame for Zuma feeding his fat herd of cows from the taxpayers pocket. We will continue to suffer the atrocities of apartheid as long as the Anc is in government .

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-08-07 05:47

    And the educated will be the masters and the uneducated will be the slaves. Those who burn down their schools chose to be slaves. The ANC only want power and don't care what happens to the people. Apartheid was bad, ANC worse.

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:28

      The ANC is far worse, they dump textbooks: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/5-000-dumped-textbooks-found-in-Limpopo-20120807

  • herman.heil - 2012-08-07 06:17

    Only pathetic parasites use Apartheid as an excuse.

  • Mike - 2012-08-07 06:25

    How predictable, blame apartheid. At the end of World War II, Germany had been reduced to ashes. Their infrastructure destroyed, their factories reduced to rubble and they had a starving population. 18 yrs later they had rebuilt Germany to become the power house of Europe on their own, by themselves. The ANC inherited a 1st world infrastructure, an existing tax base and access to just about unlimited funding and what have they achieved?? They cannot even educate a child, care for their elderly or provide homes for the poor. The ANC is a disgrace to humankind.

      louis.hager.12 - 2012-08-07 06:44

      One \small\ difference between Germany and South-Africa.

      merven.halo - 2012-08-07 07:49

      'uneducated route of Apartheid, leading to poverty and lack of education amongst the majority,' Maybe you must have a chat with tshivhombelaf, clearly you youngsters are brainwashed by the ANC propaganda.

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:29

      The real blame? The ANC - they dump textbooks: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/5-000-dumped-textbooks-found-in-Limpopo-20120807

  • Phil.Kleynhans - 2012-08-07 06:26

    Every time the ANC f*#ks up they blame it on the apartheid system.

      alan.gernet - 2012-08-07 08:16

      and they will until the end of time. The anc motto is - We are NOT ACCOUNTABLE!

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:29

      Well, they won't blame themselves for causing the current problem in 2012 - http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/5-000-dumped-textbooks-found-in-Limpopo-20120807

  • Lesiba C Mmotlana - 2012-08-07 06:29

    education during the then government was the Best not this stupids things that happens now ,Mr Phosa b a man n face it ur government is corrupt n cannot govern ,really we miss u MR MBEKI,

  • talita.vandermerwe - 2012-08-07 06:31

    Mr Phosa you were educated under the bantu education system,and you are not doing to bad for yourself.

  • sarel.brits - 2012-08-07 06:32

    Ok let Mr Phosa have his litter tap dance on the virtues of Apartheid but one thing that the ANC needs to explain to the South African Tax payers is why the return on investments is so low, Millions upon millions have been invested more than the GDP of some nations and yet we sit with kids that can not read and write in grade 7, a senior cert is not worth the paper its printed on, instead of maths and science the our best subject is life orientation “how to brush your teeth and wipe your Butt” Please explain this Mr Phosa, the only way I can see apartheid`s effect is on the dumb ass masses that can not or do not want to see the wool being pulled over their eye,s keep on voting for these ANC fools you will see how this ends oneday.

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-08-07 06:33

    After 18 yrs you still blame Apartheid. Why not blame the incompetent ANC as they have no Idea what they doing. Mandela,Sisulu and many other had an Apartheid education. Why could they uplift themselves and others can't?

  • robin.stobbs.9 - 2012-08-07 06:37

    So why then you still blaming apartheid? The present monumental cock-up is all the ANC doing and has nothing to do with any imagined inherited baggage, OK?

  • EricksonTL - 2012-08-07 06:38

    There are many things you can blame on apartheid, ANC, but the piss poor state of the education system is not one of them. The Bantu education system may have been worse than the white system in apartheid South Africa, but it was still worlds ahead of the excuse for education you are forcing on ALL South African children today. SHAME ON YOU!

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:30

      "it was still worlds ahead of the excuse for education you are forcing on ALL South African children today." What education? - http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/5-000-dumped-textbooks-found-in-Limpopo-20120807

  • louis.hager.12 - 2012-08-07 06:42

    PHOSA and FRIENDS should give thanks every night that there was an Apartheidheid system, before they go to sleep in their mansions, and have made sure the personal security locked the expensive German 4x4, after stuffing their faces on caviar. Mathews Phosa, grow a pair and sort Apartheid's legacy out if you're not just another parasitic politician.

  • keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-08-07 06:46

    Two thousand years ago some bloody Italian came to England and said, (according to Sellars & Yeatman) "Weany, Weedy, Weaky." whereupon the ancient Brits gave up. The legacy of Julius Ceasar still affects the British, as it will for the next two thousand years. So, South Africa, you can expect the 'legacy of apartheid' to be the cause of everything, from the weather to AIDS. If anything, the worse life gets the more it is the fault of apartheid.

  • louis.hager.12 - 2012-08-07 06:51

    Problem is those affected by this, were not even born under the old flag. I also BLAME Apartheid for giving these bloody idiots \rights\ to a country they could screw up so badly.

      louis.hager.12 - 2012-08-07 07:12

      And Bheki Khumalo has no problem defending these incompetent morons. Clearly another proud human life screwed over by the ANC-Mindwash cycle. Congratulations. You're the idiot!

      EricksonTL - 2012-08-07 07:12

      Louis may have said it bluntly, but he has a point. Why could FW and Mandela negotiate the repatriation of white people instead. We'd all be gone, and the 'masses' would have everything all to themselves. There'd be no white man to blame, and maybe THEN ANC supporters would see that their party are SCREWING UP South Africa. Although I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen.

      TSR01 - 2012-08-07 10:31

      ANC screwing South Africa up every way possible: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/5-000-dumped-textbooks-found-in-Limpopo-20120807

  • patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-08-07 06:58

    There will never be quality of education, unless the department can get the bad and lazy teachers sacked and ban unions in schools. If this is not working start blaming apartheid again.

  • Brad - 2012-08-07 07:11

    WTF?? Even one of your own (An anc veteran) said that you cannot blame this on apartheid and that education was better under the apartheid regime.

  • wayne.faulds - 2012-08-07 07:19

    Oh Lord, another intelligent ANC cadre fishing for votes by pulling the old apartheid legacy card. Phosa, your party has had almost 20 years to correct the situation and has had the sole right to budget allocation for same. Please dont use apartheid legacy to try to mask the utter failure that is the ANC Education policy and Education management.

  • jason.croxford.56 - 2012-08-07 07:24

    You cannot raise the ceiling by lowering the floor.

      alan.gernet - 2012-08-07 08:17

      That's what they do with matric results - increase the marks and lower the bar

  • Tishan - 2012-08-07 07:27

    maybe he means the new apartheid "BEE". teacher collegues closed down, quota system, unqualified teachers.. teachers who cant speak English.

  • jan.henning.14 - 2012-08-07 07:28

    Just an indication on how far the ANC is removed from reality

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-07 07:30

    neither will goals be achieved by gross incompetence, negligence, sabotage & derelict of duty, you fail to mention this Mr Phosa, but I agree with you on the looking back part, the question is what action will be taken against those that are denying (in defiance of a court order) the children of Limpopo their basic right to education.

  • dean.polley.3 - 2012-08-07 07:41

    Everytime a government (ANC) official makes a public statement referring to Apartheid, it effectively exacerbates the racial divide and undermines racial reconciliation. For those that are educated, it demonstrates who really are the racists - for those that are not well educated, let me spell it out - the ANC!

  • terrence.schwartz.1 - 2012-08-07 07:43

    Mr Phosa, you are clinging at straws, it is the Educ Dept., The Teachers, and of course the pupils (not not learners, nb.,) i saw a picture of one where the usual service delivery protests in the streets was taking place, burning tyres, malicious injury to property etc, the pupil in school uniform, had a stone in her hand behind her back. These are the issues that should be addressed, not APARTHEID!! You and your comrades should stop making excuses for your incompetence and inability, to deliver.

  • smaged2 - 2012-08-07 07:44

    It's been 18yrs since "apartheid" has ended. Please look for some other excuse for the lack of governance from the ANC. Blaming the apartheid era is so old already... it seems like the ANC has run out of excuses for their incompetence!

  • anelda.bernardo - 2012-08-07 07:44

    ag siestog!!!!!

  • storm.trooper.125 - 2012-08-07 07:49

    PLS EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT "problems caused by the apartheid system still remain" 18 YRS AN ANC IS INCHARGE OF EDUCATION, BALME IT AGAIN ON APARTHEID

  • daniel.v.wyk - 2012-08-07 07:52

    Start by reading the books you are supposed to read! Oops, its lying in a field!!!! In limpopo! Is that also the apartheid regime to be blamed again? Blame yourself and your arrogant BEE government! MOVE on already, ANC is prove that human evolution gan go backwards!

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-08-08 19:48

      Devolution?

  • Michael - 2012-08-07 07:58

    Cdr Phosa is saying lets move on, why cant he talk about what aprtheid has done, he is not saying we cant move on because of the legacy of apartheid, why people get so unconfortable when the word apartheid is mentioned by any ANC member or leader?

      Ze Don - 2012-08-07 08:33

      People are tired of the so called (anc) leaders blaming everything on apartheid. It's time for them to start taking responsibility for the mess they've made!

      Michael - 2012-08-07 10:33

      But that is what Mathews Phosa is saying in this article, that we must move on, whats wrong with this statement? Because he mentioned the Word 'apartheid'? We can only move forward with reference from the past.

  • storm.trooper.125 - 2012-08-07 07:59

    SOME BLACK PPL AND ALL BLACK ANC MEMBERS MUST ALWAYS BLAME SOME ONE OR SYSTEM for their corrupt mind and mistakes

      beki.khumalo - 2012-08-07 08:27

      And just by the Almighty design, the white ANC members are pure and clean? Hmmm?\r\nIt's always racial neh!\r\nWow! What an idiot! Racist pig!

  • hein.helmand - 2012-08-07 08:04

    Ja Mathew,dood het altyd 'n oorsaak.Jy behoord beter te weet.Die appartheid storie raak nou bietjie afgesaag.Probeer plan B.

  • Roger Small - 2012-08-07 08:07

    speaking from the stand point of a non white citizen, born and raised in RSA,I find it bemusing that after almost 20 years of freedom the ANC juggernaut can still cower behind apartheid due to their own inability to govern and lead

  • thechrisberryshow - 2012-08-07 08:13

    ANC: "the masses are starting to realize that we have over promised, under delivered and have stolen lots of their money, how can we make this go away ?" ANC: "lets blame apartheid"

      alan.gernet - 2012-08-07 08:22

      yeah - and let's compound the problem, and follow our leader - have lots and lots of kids that we can only offer a life of poverty and misery.