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Entering the new transition

2012-06-24 21:45

Johannesburg - The African National Congress will debate the idea of a "second transition" as the next step in South Africa's democracy at its policy conference this week.

A document key to the discussions, The Second Transition: Building a national democratic society and the balance of forces in 2012, suggests that the ANC must now enter a second era of democracy.

According to the document, in the past 18 years the ANC has gone through a first transition into democracy, where it focused on political emancipation.

Now it needs to introduce a "second transition" that focuses on the social and economic transformation of South Africa in the next 30 to 50 years.

The second transition should achieve "rising per capita income, full employment, a Gini index target that demonstrates real and visible progress in reducing wealth and income inequalities, and visible progress in changing racial and patriarchal patterns of wealth and income".

The paper suggests that during the negotiations to establish democracy in 1994, the ANC had to make compromises in the Constitution to keep the peace.

"This meant an implicit bargain, involving the ANC committing to macro-economic stability and international openness, and white business agreeing to participate in capital reform to modify the racial structure of asset ownership and to invest in national priorities," according to the document.

"... Although we have liberalised and integrated into the global economy and we have macro-economic stability, the structure of the apartheid colonial economy has remained the same, and that in this form, it is incapable of fostering either higher or inclusive growth."

This had led to a strong sense of injustice as the poorest, particularly those in rural areas, have suffered.

Jacob Zuma

This was why the ANC had to "pay single-minded and undivided attention towards overcoming poverty, unemployment and inequality. This is what our second transition must be about".

ANC president Jacob Zuma has promoted the idea of a "second transition", but it has been rejected by the ANC Youth League and the SA Students' Congress, as well as the ANC in Gauteng and Limpopo.

ANC deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe reportedly questioned the idea.

"Second transition! Second transition! Second transition! From what, from where to, where? What constituted the first transition? What were the tasks of that phase, have all those tasks been accomplished or not?" Business Day quoted him as saying on 14 June.

According to the report, Motlanthe told a dinner in honour of late intellectual Harold Wolpe that the policy document was packed with "smatterings of Marxist jargon".

The ANC will meet in Midrand for four days starting on Tuesday to discuss 13 policy documents ahead of its national conference in December.

The policy decisions made at the policy conference will then be discussed and finalised at the national conference in Mangaung, Free State, in December.

These policies will form the basis for the ANC government's policies, new laws or amended laws.

Comments
  • Mike Purchase - 2012-06-24 21:48

    Hehehehe!

      clinton.badenhorst - 2012-06-24 22:07

      WTF does this mean??? That the white man will now be further oppressed? As if BEE/AA is no unfair enough... What will this second phase entail? That currently employed white people be fired? Explain this Zuma! Stop talking all this political jargon and say what you are actually planning. I am seriously thinking of leaving this country soon...

      thandiwe.ngema.71 - 2012-06-25 02:58

      Zuma's "2nd transition" is just a ploy to capture some of the extremist votes the ANCYL hang onto. The government know that they cannot nationalize anything as this would send investors running and thus mines would stop working. It would destroy GDP and tax revenue and create masses of unemployment... Similarly the government cannot expropriate land without compensation as productive farms would no longer be operating (you need more than just land to farm - you need technology, business experience, farming experience etc), food prices would rocket (as SA would import more), unemployment would shoot up, and tax income would drop. South Africa CANNOT afford the number of tax-payers to fall as the government would be unable to provide housing for millions, unable to give out grants, unable to fund health and education, unable to fund infrastructure etc The implementation of aggressive policies like nationalization and land grabs will lead to an increase in unemployment, a decrease in productivity, and increase in poverty, an increase in food prices, poorer infrastructure, an increase in government debt (look at the effects of this in Greece) etc. The government does not have a big enough budget to buy the mines outright. If it took the mines illegally, countless international treaties with ALL our trading partners would be broken and we would lose most of our trading capability. Health & education must be a priority for any significant reduction of poverty longterm.

      Andrew - 2012-06-25 16:40

      thandiwe... you are 100% right, and we (the educated folk) know this. The sad thing is that the uneducated, unemployed and the hungry don't understand the implication of nationalization or land grabs. The ANC hold on to them as voters and promise them the heaven and earth because they are the reason ANC is in power. Apartheid has done most of the damage, but the ANC has done nothing to rectify this. We just pray they have more than 2 brain cells when they present the 2nd transition.

  • charnelle.bester - 2012-06-24 21:55

    Im convinced the farm murders are part of this.

      tumisang.kolobe - 2012-06-24 22:14

      No Charnelle dont be silly...Crime is adressed in different platform not the second transition, and there wont be any special mention of a specific or special crime....all crime including the one you have metioned above is a priority to eradicate and root out.

  • Phelamanga - 2012-06-24 22:01

    The Marxist jargon is a clear indication of who is actually running the country, and it's not Zuma. This document is proof that Zuma is a puppet whose strings are being pulled by none other than Blade Nzimande. Elsewhere he disclaims his authorship, but is is clear that the driving power behind the yellow curtain is the leader of the SACP. The idea of the second transition is textbook Marxism.It is time that true democrats stood up and exposed the truth about the ANC. It is no longer the party of freedom. It will lead to the enslavement and impoverishment of the majority, black and white, to a wealthy, corrupt, uncaring and decadent minority communist elite and their hangers-on.

      David - 2012-06-24 22:09

      Very well put!

      Aaron - 2012-06-24 22:42

      TrueBlue is absolutely correct. People need to understand that there is very specific terminology used by Marxist planners and that these people are very influential and have been planning these events for half a century or longer. Zimbabwe also went into a "second transition" about 20yrs after "democracy" and we know where that has ended up. I think we should be worried. Empty talk about increasing GDP and equality are just a smokescreen for more and more policies that do the exact opposite, by continuously implementing regulations that make it harder for especially small business to survive. Their goal has always been the complete breakdown of social institutions and the economy because these nutcases actually seriously believe it's the only way they can build their communist nirvana (which is in turn just another smokescreen for stealing wealth and power for the elite).

  • tumisang.kolobe - 2012-06-24 22:04

    I agree with deputy president Motlanthe....Second transition! Second transition! Second transition! From what, from where to, where? What constituted the first transition? What were the tasks of that phase, have all those tasks been accomplished or not?before there can be another trasition we neeed to evaluate what has happened and what has not worked and improve from there....here are the challenges..1.Unemployment .2 Ownerhip of Land 3. Ownnership of business 4.Education in shambles 5.disfuntional hospital 6 a growing gap of inequality between the haves and have nots....any policy discusion should revolve amongst this key issues....Nationalisation solves 3 already.

      WysJouMys - 2012-06-24 22:41

      Seriously, are you on crack?

      Aaron - 2012-06-24 23:09

      Tumisang, you are either so far out of your depth or a such a troll that there's probably no point in engaging you, but anyway: Nationalisation will destroy any prospect of employment growth, it will consolidate even more land in the biggest landowner's hands (government), it will ultimately eradicate 90% of businesses and along with that all institutions such as health and education that are funded by the taxpaying economy. You are either utterly stupid or dishonest if you do not see this.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-24 22:06

    Get your children out of this country if you care for them and their future.

  • James - 2012-06-24 22:06

    In translation of the rhetoric - so Apartheid is clearly still alive in business. How? Why? When? Someone has to explain this to me. Government doesn't seem to get its head around the idea, that business grows organically. Government is supposed to make the soil perfect for businesses to grow and jobs to be made. The seeds of enterprise will then take, given you have a meritocracy and rule of law. We don't have a meritocracy here, nor do we have real rule of law. Neither do we have a good quality of workers. Hence, we're uncompetitive and people are overpaid and inefficient. The ANC should work on the basics before getting involved in more complex issues. i.e. run clean merit based government before. Job creation seems to be hiring people to do nothing in government. Nice statistic. On average, government officials in SA now get paid in real terms more than officials in Germany. How does that work?

      Aaron - 2012-06-24 23:14

      "Government" fully understands what they need to do to make business grow. They are not stupid. That they choose to deliberately do the opposite while paying lip service to economic growth is cause for serious alarm. Have you noticed how on the one hand Zuma and co talk about all sorts of initiatives to create jobs, but then what really happens is SARS tightens the screws, and more and more restrictive legislation is passed? This is deliberate and you have to ask yourself what the true motives are.

  • colin.dovey - 2012-06-24 22:13

    Just a manufactured excuse for brushing aside the rubbish they have performed in the first "Transition" - it sounds more like the script for a pathetic play, rather then a genuine attempt to make this country a place of which ALL of us can be PROUD once again. We need GENUINE LEADERS once again.....the type that will stop all the racist bickering that goes on in these pages, churning away, eating like the cancer it is, at our hearts, minds and souls. Misrepresenting false SLOGANS like: "ALUTA CONTINUA" - and translating it into "The LOOTING CONTINUES." The Limpopo pillaging of the coffers, putting out a tender for the School Books of R1,3 BILLION, when the books COULD HAVE been obtained for ONE THIRD of that!!!!!

  • mastersvoice - 2012-06-24 22:14

    Simply put, the ANC believe they need to transform South Africa economically. Does this suggest they will be looking at programs to increase productivity? Or perhaps increase the level of education? Or perhaps put measures in place to protect South African businesses from exploitation from the East, most notably China? I do not believe the ANC are capable of transforming this country economically nor socially. They will once again look at ways of implementing BEE and AA, while constantly lowering the level of education to raise the so-called pass rate amongst "previously disadvantaged". South Africa's black youth are becoming increasingly angrier, disillusioned and stupider, thanks largely to the ANC's inability to stimulate real economic growth, productivity nor learning. They are stimulating stupidity, if the angry black youths' idiotic utterances are anything to go by. The second transition should be the removal of the ANC-led government. The future looks decidedly bleak with them running things around here!

      colin.dovey - 2012-06-24 22:36

      Well said @MastersVoice!

  • Lindelwa - 2012-06-24 22:16

    What new transition crap? The ANC has been using this rhetoric "balance of forces" since time in memorial; when are they going to move away from this revolutionary jargon to deal with bread and butter issues of ordinary South Africans - unemployment, poverty, inequality, crime???

  • bernard.bracka - 2012-06-24 22:16

    Has news24 ran out of juice today? Check all the articles... Pathetic. More like communist china propaganda. Their journalists could do well in Tinseltown hollywood.

      PJP - 2012-06-24 22:32

      Bernard - think you may be on to something.

  • sean.bagley.50 - 2012-06-24 22:19

    What?Change the constitution you mean?Cause you ANC numbnuts have been wanting to do that s**t for years now to suit your own agenda.

      tumisang.kolobe - 2012-06-24 22:54

      The current constitution is old, and the generation who wrote this consitittuion has long passed, we cannot allow the dead to rule over the living,Each generation should write its own Constitution, Thomas Jefferson supported rewriting the Constitution every 19 years, equated not doing so to being 'enslaved to the prior generation'

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-06-24 22:20

    a second transition \from what,from where,to where\?Kgalema Montlante. If we allow former IFP member Blade Nzimande draft our economic policy,we will take this country to a dustbin

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-06-24 22:21

    Perhaps now, because the officials have enriched themselves and secured their own futures, they might be prepared to allow the masses to enjoy something of South Africas hard earned democracy. but I'm not holding my breath ...

  • MuttleyScholtz - 2012-06-24 22:24

    What does this mean??

  • PJP - 2012-06-24 22:25

    SA is doomed. Inequality? Inequlity was resolved with democracy. Seems what you are realizing that the majority can't handle it. That is not Inequality, that is TRUTH in your face.

      tumisang.kolobe - 2012-06-24 22:32

      You are from England you know nothing about South Africa...Allow us to shape the future of this country.

      colin.dovey - 2012-06-24 22:41

      @tumisang - you are dead wrong...what sort of welcome is that to give to a friendly AMERICAN....who WANTS to help make OUR country WORK? - And by the way - talking about shaping things...it HAS gone a bit pear-shaped has it not......

      WysJouMys - 2012-06-24 22:44

      Shape? More like screw up...

      tumisang.kolobe - 2012-06-24 22:45

      He actually is America ...SO PJP keep your arrogant American perspective to yourself....thats the problem with the whole lot....they believe they can rule everywhere they go.....

      PJP - 2012-06-24 23:01

      If it were not other countries (including America) you could have never ended Apartheid. Perhaps the next time around the world will let S. Africa have its way. Seems you are heading in that direction.

      PJP - 2012-06-24 23:10

      PJP - June 24, 2012 at 16:03 Report comment tumisang.kolobe what I were to tell you I am also a SA Citizen having marring a woman from SA and retied there? I have homes in both countries. Where is your democracy and freedom of speach?

      tumisang.kolobe - 2012-06-24 23:15

      You cant be American you must be South African....because Afrikaners cant spell in english....whats freedom of speach?the correct spelling is speech.....and you see PJP I studied under a tree because I was destined to become a garden boy....You wouldnt know all this because you were enjoying yourself in the United States while I was struggling here, now you come from America and you also want to oppress me again by saying am equal to white while am living in a shack.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 12:45

      Tumisang, I am from Ceres. I know everything about South Africa. Silly child.

  • sean.bagley.50 - 2012-06-24 22:31

    "the negotiations to establish democracy in 1994, the ANC had to make compromises in the Constitution to keep the peace." What about the compromises the National Party and other minority races in South Africa had to make to accommodate the ANC?Why is it all such a onesided affair on this news forum when its only the ANC that gets put on the moral high ground of rightousness,when we all know how evil they can be.

      tumisang.kolobe - 2012-06-24 22:54

      The current constitution is old, and the generation who wrote this consitittuion has long passed, we cannot allow the dead to rule over the living,Each generation should write its own Constitution, Thomas Jefferson supported rewriting the Constitution every 19 years, equated not doing so to being 'enslaved to the prior generation'

  • PJP - 2012-06-24 22:39

    PJP - Just posted Report comment I love this pic of Zuma - looking away to whom for an answer? A cANCerous melon head.

      sean.bagley.50 - 2012-06-24 22:57

      I thought the same thing when looking at that picture of him staring into the unknown not having a clue what's being said to him.Bloody spanspek kop indeed. He looks like one of those evil alien leader guys in the movie "When Mars attacks".

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 12:48

      PJP, that was his goat stare. When you are here long enough you will know our Jacob looked after the goats when he was a tot.

  • jerry.medina.756 - 2012-06-24 22:41

    Second transition my foot. There is no honour among thieves. the only discussion tabled document will be how to fleece and destroy everything in our beloved SA. Shame on you

  • malcolm.baillie.50 - 2012-06-24 22:45

    Viva. I look forward to this transformation. We will do away with the colonialist apartheid constitution and adopt the freedom charter as our constitution! The unions of teachers, miners, metal workers, government cronies, police, nurses, etc will all work for free so that all that they produce can be free as dictated by the free(dom) charter. Cosatu will no longer strike for higher wages but insist that the workers work for free in order to fulfill the freedonm charter! We will all drive free donkeys on our free highways (BMW is German and doesn't come for free). We shall all occupy the free houses that the disadvantaged workers will build for free. We shall all eat for free and the magic bunnies will work for us so that we can all do everything for free. Eskom will turn coal to electricity for free! The magic cadres will make all this happen for free. We shall live in our free bubble of freedom happy and free. Viva Zwelinzima he shall tell us how this magic freedom charter makes everything free. The government will tax us nothing because we shall be free! Viva the new constitution! Viva the second coming of the ANC...

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 12:49

      Malcolm and I will be up a tree for free. See you there.

  • thutothegreat - 2012-06-24 22:51

    "social and economic transformation"? I think Thabo Mbeki said that before..

  • Justin - 2012-06-24 23:04

    For those not quite up to speed and still blind, let me spell it out for you. The communists are running the show. Welcome to hell. White man, arm yourself.

      Kenny Bianco - 2012-06-25 14:43

      and u say blacks are dumb?

      Justin - 2012-06-25 16:58

      Where did I say blacks are dumb? Please show me where I said that.

  • Chappies ZA - 2012-06-24 23:07

    Well I'll have some pop corn with it, can't wait for the second series (transition).

  • thandiwe.ngema.71 - 2012-06-25 02:37

    Zuma's "2nd transition" is just a ploy to capture some of the extremist votes the ANCYL hang onto. The government know that they cannot nationalize anything as this would send investors running and thus mines would stop working. It would destroy GDP and tax revenue and create masses of unemployment... Similarly the government cannot expropriate land without compensation as productive farms would no longer be operating (you need more than just land to farm - you need technology, business experience, farming experience etc), food prices would rocket (as SA would import more), unemployment would shoot up, and tax income would drop. South Africa CANNOT afford the number of tax-payers to fall as the government would be unable to provide housing for millions, unable to give out grants, unable to fund health and education, unable to fund infrastructure etc The implementation of aggressive policies like nationalization and land grabs will lead to an increase in unemployment, a decrease in productivity, and increase in poverty, an increase in food prices, poorer infrastructure, an increase in government debt (look at the effects of this in Greece) etc. The government does not have a big enough budget to buy the mines outright. If it took the mines illegally, countless international treaties with ALL our trading partners would be broken and we would lose most of our trading capability. Health & education must be a priority for any significant reduction of poverty longterm.

  • aven.kim - 2012-06-25 03:33

    Yes, I am single again. Why? Because life is too short to live with anyone that does not value or appreciate a good thing. No time for regrets. Every experience good or bad has made me the strong woman I am today. Time to move on.I am proud of all that I have accomplished.I seek to find the gentle man that will share the rest of my heart and love with. I have uploaded my pics and imformation on ------S_e_e_K_T-a_l_l.-------under the username of------- Xtratallgirl-----------...Honesty, respect. Easy, pleasant, interesting I don't look for an adventure; I would like to meet a true man. The important thing is that we have understanding, respect and love for each other to share together needs, wants, desires and to make our plans, hopes, dreams come true. I have a full of heart to share with the right man, .I am looking for a male partner to spend the rest of my life with.

      Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-06-25 09:16

      Wtf?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 12:51

      Aven, no wonder you are free again. You have your marbelbag in a twist?.

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-06-25 14:10

      You are clearly not "all there" !

  • Guy - 2012-06-25 07:44

    So "white" business it to blame? Can we be blamed for people not being educated well enough to employ? Maybe if the tax money that we pay went into education rather than back-pockets, this country would have been able to do something fruitful in the past 18 years. Mr Zuma I suggest that you look at the fingers pointing back to yourself when you point one finger at "white" business.

      Kenny Bianco - 2012-06-25 11:47

      because u used blacks as slaves to aquire ur wealth

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 12:55

      Kenny, black slaves?. Good heavens where I grew up there wasn't a black to be seen for miles and miles. Wonder how my parents used them as slaves if they weren't living near us?. Did they hypnotize them with drumbeats or what?. Do enlighten us.

      Kenny Bianco - 2012-06-25 14:40

      you should've thot abt it while you were busy enriching urself on enslaving South Africans

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-06-25 09:10

    Ha Ha Ha get zuma to talk straight, thats a joke, he cant even look you in the eye. Of course, we know whats on his mind. He is promising the rural people wonders again, these poor people are being exploited once again, they have proved over and over, they keep them uneducated and we have proof of that, they keep them unemployed by means of giving them grants and we have proof of that. AND here we have a president who has let everything fall down around him, his cabinet ministers etc to philfer the taxpayers money and allow them to become arrogant to cover up for their disgraceful conduct. We have a police force, whom we the citizens cannot trust. We are already been taxed in every which way. This is the President who is going to set the NEXT TRANSITION for the NEXT 30 TO 50 YEARS. Oh my gosh. They intend to bleed us dry.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-06-25 10:48

    I agree Zuma is using this 2nd transition to muster up votes for his own personal gain. This is his weapon. He is allowing the ANCYL FREEDOM OF SPEECH because he does not want to find himself drawn against him. He is using them and the Unions as his Joker card. Tell me who says zuma is the man to make these decision on behalf of the people of South Africa and for the next 30 to 50 years. We have all suffered during this 1st 18 years, we have and still going through a bad monetary crisis, infact the whole world is experiencing it at the moment and he mr. sharp sharp zuma is planning for decades ahead when he does'nt have a clue what the future will hold for anybody. If the ANC wanted, they could hold on until the world manages to pick themselves up and things get brighter then come out with something like this but at this stage I believe he is going to crucify our country and our people. Its a ploy to get votes, that all it is. If this does happen has he not given thought to the taxpayers who will move off to other destinations, we are not going to sit back and be a target for his downfall. Zuma thinks he is a brilliant person but he is canniving his way to a 2nd term. Is there anybody in the ANC that has the ball to stand up against him or have they all got their heads so far up his backside that they are afraid to come out for air in case they lose their place in the queue.

      Kenny Bianco - 2012-06-25 14:36

      Your hatred nd paranoia are clouding your judgement, if u wanna go to other destinations then go, we know that u have dual citizenship

  • Freddyvdm - 2012-06-25 10:53

    ATTENTION all WHITES !ITS TIME TO START FIGHTING FOR OUR RIGHTS!WE HAVE A RIGHT 2 WORK EDUCATION AND TO BECOME WEALTHY .THE ANC WANTS TO REMOVE US FROM THE ECONOMY AND THE COUNTRY!WE ARE LIKE FROGS IN A POT WITH THE HEAT TURNED UP SLOWLY ,IF WE DONT TAKE ACTION SOON WELL LOOSE EVERYTHING.THE ANC POLICY ISN'T DESIGNED TO CREATE NEW JOBS ,ITS DESIGNED TO REPLACE EXISTING JOBS WITH aFRICAN BROTHERS .LOOK AT GOVERMENT ,YOUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITY ALL BLACK ,EVEN IN BANKS ITS HARD TO SPOT A WHITE GUY ,SLOWLY BUT SURELY WELL BE REPLACED AND SOON WITHOUT MUCH CHANCE FOR AN OPPORTUNITY .GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Freddyvdm - 2012-06-25 10:59

      4 THOSE MISS LEAD WAR HUNGRY MORONS!IM NOT TALKING ABOUT WAR OR PHYSICAL FIGHTING.WE DON'T NEED A 2ND APARTHEID! ID LOVE TO SEE OUR COUNTRY AS A UNIFIED SA WHERE OPPORTUNITIES IS BASED ON MERIT AND FAIRNESS ,AND WERE STANDARDS DOES NOT HAVE TO BE LOWERED TO SUITE THE LAZY MAJORITY!

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