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Equality Court went too far, says Malema

2011-09-14 15:19

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League will ask Parliament to protect liberation songs, league president Julius Malema said on Wednesday.

He said the Equality Court went too far in interdicting the use of the lyrics "shoot the boer".

"We are also going to Parliament to demand a legislation that will protect this song," he told reporters in Johannesburg after the league announced its plans to appeal against Monday's ruling.

Malema said presiding Judge Colin Lamont had misunderstood ubuntu, favoured minorities and given too much weight to the fear of genocide.

He had been generous and gave AfriForum what it had not even asked for, by banning the public or private singing of the song.

Judiciary protecting minorities

The league intended marching to the Constitutional Court over the issue.

Malema said this case, the five-year partially suspended drunken driving sentence for former Ekurhuleni metro police chief Robert McBride and the R750 000 fine for rugby player Bees Roux for killing a metro policeman, was proof the judiciary was not transformed and protected minorities.

He said Lamont made the finding by himself without consulting him.

There appeared to be a problem with an individual and the judge seemed to have an agenda, he said.

Malema said people appeared to be confusing revolution with genocide, adding that there was no intention of genocide. Liberation songs were not "love songs".

"You want a struggle song to have love words in it, how can that be?" Malema asked.

He revealed the league was considering excluding the media from its events.

"In most cases you distort what we are saying," Malema said.

Comments
  • dappies - 2011-09-14 15:26

    "He said Lamont made the finding by himself without consulting him." Like look, listen here Malema, judge Lamont is the judge, he does not need to consult you in order to make a ruling, or does he? Is it ok for the accused to discuss the ruling with a judge, and perhaps, oh, I don't know, influence the verdict?

      Cliff - 2011-09-14 15:42

      This is how massive this guys ego has grown!

      Harvey - 2011-09-14 16:01

      This is how it normally works for the ANC. He just didn't realise it is, in fact illegal.

      jester - 2011-09-14 16:12

      And he didn't even bother pitching up for the verdict, but he must be consulted first, IDIOT!!

      John Right - 2011-09-14 16:17

      Maybe he should have abide by the law and actually showed up to the court ruling. Anyone else in this country would have has suit lodged against us for not adhering to the court order to be there and by default for the lack of not showing up be fined and automatically be sentenced as guilty. This is rich coming from him that the minority is ruling the court

      Amsterdammer - 2011-09-14 16:48

      Malema.... a LEGEND... in his OWN MIND!!! Malema is awesome.... in his OWN HEAD!!! Malema cares..... ONLY for HIMSELF! Malema fights..... FOR HIS OWN TENDERS!!!! Malema's MAIN PROBLEM IN LIFE IS...... MALEMA!!!!

      Amsterdammer - 2011-09-14 16:50

      If this IDIOT was so "AGAINST" the banning of the song.... HOW COME HE HAS NOT GONE AGAINST WHAT THE JUDGE RULED.... AND SANG THE SONG IN PUBLIC???????? Just to pi55 the judge off... to show his disdain of the ruling!! HOW COME??????? KUK SCARED!!!!

      Larissa - 2011-09-15 08:06

      Short and sweet Einstein - brilliant mind Newton - enquiring mind Gates - money mind Da Vinci - scientific mind Julius Malema - never mind..

      Wizard101 - 2011-09-16 12:52

      Juliarse no mind

  • v3 - 2011-09-14 15:27

    Contempt of court charges to follow?

      claudevn - 2011-09-14 15:32

      Thank you V3... i was thinking the exact same thing... LOL How does he expect to be "consulted" if he doesnt even show for his court date?!? Its really a joke.. GIVE THE JUDGE A BELLS!!! lol and possibly skype... Malema does know how do use skype doesnt he?!?!

      Cliff - 2011-09-14 15:43

      It was a civil judgement guys.

      claudevn - 2011-09-14 15:48

      @ Cliff... Given, you are correct... Judgement handed down regardless of his presense i understand lol was just fun to note...

      gaharaa - 2011-09-14 23:26

      Then there isn't much he can say now is there Cliff?

      gaharaa - 2011-09-14 23:26

      If they cared about his opinion they should care about mine too. I'm civilised.

      ttrevenen - 2011-09-15 01:08

      Oh how we wish... no likely...

  • Die Baas - 2011-09-14 15:27

    This is it boys! Buckle up it's going to be a bumpy ride! Malema, just say it straight, tell the truth for once! You want to kill all the Whiteys. Do us that favor, then we can get out of here as refugees. We'll leave this banana republic to you. I was born here and used to love this country; but now I fear for the safety of my family. Enough is enough. I urge foreign governments to grant political refugee status to white South Africans.

      Trevor Obery - 2011-09-14 15:41

      OY...what about us colored laaities ay..

      Face - 2011-09-14 15:45

      Die baas hy prat hom nie so nie!!

      Shistirrer - 2011-09-14 15:47

      You can come along, Trevor. According to the ANC you are only "black" when it's election time.

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-09-14 16:17

      @Die Baas: No thanks, I was born in SA, and will fight for my right to stay in this country. I'm sure Malema doesn't have the balls to start a war, but if he does, I say bring it. If the ANC can't put this little boy in his place, we'll have to, and that is going to be 6 feet under.

      George Adams - 2011-09-14 16:53

      cj, how will black SA'er feel if white SA'ers try to defend using the k word? saying it has some historical comfort to them?? farmers are being murdered in SA and that is a big problem. how can it be OK for people walking around in the streets signing songs that encourage murder? please engage your brain.

      Ayoba - 2011-09-14 16:54

      @Die Baas, some coloured guy who claimed to be white tried it in Canada and it didn't work.

      Peg-Leg-Sven - 2011-09-14 16:55

      As South Africa is already reached Level 6 on Genocide Watch, where Level 7 is genocide and level 8 is the denial that Genocide actually took place, it should not be difficult to get refugee status in any country that is a signature to the Genocide Watch constitution.

      Die Baas - 2011-09-14 17:34

      @cj, I was a soldier, I actually fought once; believe me, if you want to call me a pathetic coward, I invite you to contact me privately and do so to my face (physically). I want to leave for the sake of my new born daughter and my wife. If it were only me; I'd be shouting: "Bring it on!" even though I really don't want to fight again knowing the reality of war. cj, you are living in a dream world; the judgement doesn't matter, nor will the outcome of an appeal. Don't call other people names if you can't accept it when your rainbow pales. The reason I don't just pack up and leave is also a matter of reality. I made some bad financial decisions and I'm afraid I simply am not liquid enough to just up and go. I could blame AA and BEE and to a certain extent I would do so rightly; but I'm man enough to admit I made huge mistakes in career and money. Now that I've tried to be rational with libbies; but I'm afraid there is no door to rationality in never never land.

      christo.vickers - 2011-09-14 18:00

      Hi Trevor. Come back to the DRC, Malema will be eaten for breakfast at Kisangani

      Karien - 2011-09-14 20:57

      @ Cj, OK! Let them sing it! SING IT LOUDER!!! Sing it loud enough so as to allow the entire planet to hear EXACTLY how the ANC intends to take this democracy forward! Sing the songs of war and murder! GO! GO! GO! LOUDER!!! LET GENOCIDE WATCH HEAR YOU!!! LET UNESCO HEAR YOU!!! LET THE NATO GUYS THAT JUST BOMBED GADDAFI (To Zumas' dismay) FOR KILLING CIVILIANS HEAR YOU!!! Go ahead, shoot the "boere"! Go ahead, all whites must die! SING LOUDER IDIOTS!!!

      Lab-Rat - 2011-09-15 09:00

      Die Baas, I'm with you all the way. Personally I would like to stay and fight but my family is to important to me to place their lives at risk and the only option I have now is to try and emmigrate somewhere.

      greatgodpan - 2011-09-15 10:17

      @baas....my story too......ive seen war ....im not afraid to fight war as im trained and good at it......i do not want war......im busy arranging to get out (british citizen)as i have two young daughters..........but if i get stuck i fight.....i fight to win .....if i cant win i fight to prevent my enemy winning...........i dont lie down for the executioner...........a long drawn guerilla war can easily be fought in SA.

      Benji26 - 2011-09-16 13:06

      Hi All, Please see underneath mail fan page of Julius Malema, what is happening to this country! Please pass this around and let all our south Africans stand together no matter what race!

  • BigMoose - 2011-09-14 15:27

    The dogs are straining at the leash...

      Ayoba - 2011-09-15 12:45

      Are you sure you commented on the right article?

      gaharaa - 2011-09-16 04:45

      Are you sure you're from the right planet?

  • Daveza - 2011-09-14 15:27

    'He said Lamont made the finding by himself without consulting him.' There is no cure for stupid. What did you do in the struggle Julius ?

      Die Baas - 2011-09-14 15:38

      He struggled to scoff down another bucket of KFC!

      Marcus Westin - 2011-09-14 15:50

      Malema just struggles every morning to get that fat body into his pants.

      Phlegm - 2011-09-14 16:28

      The only struggle Julius has is the one with reality!

      Northern Stormer - 2011-09-14 16:29

      He was never in any struggle except when he had to do woodwork. At that stage somebody told him that at school. When this freedom song was initiated he was probably still at school (1993) - well if we can find out how old he really is - probably also registered late or is he plain and simple a slow starter - just asking ?

      Amsterdammer - 2011-09-14 16:52

      Struggles to fit that GIGANTIC WATCH over his little FAT HAND every morning!!!!!!!

      whereu - 2011-09-16 01:36

      Julius Sello Malema (born 3 March 1981, in Seshego (Wikipedia)

      Point Blank - 2011-09-16 14:49

      He struggles to blink, it requires great effort..

  • Uthando - 2011-09-14 15:27

    Wow Junior, I didn't know you're an expert in boundaries...Go figure.

  • Joe - 2011-09-14 15:27

    I believe in reincarnation. JM was reincarnated - however, I dare not say from what species.

      mugu.eater - 2011-09-14 15:35

      definitely from a cockroach

      AntiRacist - 2011-09-14 15:38

      May I say? lol ;))))))

      BafoonSpotter - 2011-09-14 15:53

      no need to say - I think we all know :)

      Shaman Pete - 2011-09-14 22:45

      @mugu.eater - Cockroaches are fascinating and resilient creatures that perform a vital function in the ecosystem. Other than spreading pestilence, they've got nothing in common with JM ... you're insulting cockroaches, mate!

      Buzzbar - 2011-09-15 09:58

      Wrong joe. You can't re-incarnate a turd.

      gaharaa - 2011-09-16 04:47

      You can stand on both though.

  • Deborah - 2011-09-14 15:28

    One question what are we supposed to be struggling against... we have been free now for over 15 years!!!! or am i wrong...high electricty and food prices, no education for the poor and such like are things to march about!!!! what if everyone starting single struggle songs! white, black, coloured, indian, muslim everyone...where will it go and where will it end!!!

  • dappies - 2011-09-14 15:28

    "In most cases you distort what we are saying," Malema said. Oh dear, how can one distort the following words: "Shoot the farmer, shoot the boer"?

      Mcbride - 2011-09-14 16:49

      If the press didn't show up, he wouldn't have half the publicity that he enjoys so much! So go ahead JM, PLEASE STOP THE PRESS FROM SHOWING UP. 1.) We wouldn't have to listen to your whining. 2.) You would disappear into oblivion without anyone to report on your stupidity! Every time JM is mentioned on the news or papers, he enjoys even more publicity and there is NO such thing as bad publicity when it comes to ignorant voters during election time.

  • call a spade - 2011-09-14 15:28

    Please exclude the media ..that will bring an end to you and your "leek"and all the BS we see everytime we open a news column.

  • Hanna - 2011-09-14 15:29

    Please moses wake.... the unwanted whites need to leave these guys to their own demise...

  • Stephan Janse van Vuuren - 2011-09-14 15:29

    "He said Lamont made the finding by himself without consulting him." Hoekom was jy nie in die hof om iets te sĂȘ nie boetie? Ek twyfel in elk ten starkste of dit jou sogenaamde "liberation song" se gat sou gered het. Gaan gerus voort met die saak, jy mors tyd en geld. Gelukkig het jy baie daarvan om te mors as gevolg van jou korrupsie.

  • John - 2011-09-14 15:29

    there he goes "they will DEMAND parlament to protect the song" " the judge made the finding by him self and didn't consult him" who the hell does this guy think he is, he has obviously been told his fate other wise he would still be in hiding, ANC scared of this uneducated prick and are going lose face here, all just a smoke screen and a waste of time.

      SaintBruce - 2011-09-14 18:48

      Sorry guys - the Judge DID consult Malema - via his and the ANC's many lawyers and Advocates. He chose not to speak directly and to state his defence against the charges. That's what you get for having a Kak legal team ! LOL

  • Sharkbite - 2011-09-14 15:29

    PISS OFF Malema!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ollie - 2011-09-14 15:30

    Oh no - he has crawled out of his hole how depressing

  • Andre - 2011-09-14 15:31

    Maybe it is time for a new struggle song like "kill corruption, kill racism, kill Malema

  • Cliff - 2011-09-14 15:31

    Why don't you stop revolting Malema. Is that all you can do.You are a negative influence on this beautiful country and it's people.You are becoming revolting for us to watch and listen to.You have no love in your heart but destructive and divisive intentions for power for your own greedy little group of followers just as Adolf Hitler did.

      Cliff - 2011-09-14 17:56

      I must agree burtfred but they have the same evil intentions.

      burtfred - 2011-09-14 17:59

      And that, Cliff, is what makes Julius the rabble-rouser so dangerous.

  • Darwinian - 2011-09-14 15:33

    No1 = PP No2 = Malemas

  • Lydon - 2011-09-14 15:33

    By all means PLEASE excuse the media. Without them you're even more powerless you dumb f***!

      CVDL - 2011-09-14 15:44

      Nkosi, KPMG must really be scraping the barrel lately, eh?

      RGL - 2011-09-14 15:51

      Nkosi - does KPMG know what a idiot they employed ? Good christian behavour as well I see. We're all so proud !

      Marcus Westin - 2011-09-14 15:53

      LOL at nkosi. Malema does not care about you and the masses. He just wants all the money, power and resources of this country for himself. He does not care a damn about you! Wake the f UP!

      Face - 2011-09-14 16:03

      nkosi, tossie!

      Ron-ny - 2011-09-14 16:04

      @NKOSI......keep your eye on the noticeboard tomorrow, everybody is going to know about your political stance, I'll even send a copy to all relevant managers. Good luck with that promotion....NOT

      Mike - 2011-09-14 16:22

      EXACTLY Lydon bwahahaha. Another Darwin Award winning statement from Juju. Another shot in the foot. And it took this long to come up with that BS???? bwahahahahah.

  • TamaraSays - 2011-09-14 15:33

    Then again, this is the SECOND time you've been told this is hate speech, you knob end.

      TamaraSays - 2011-09-14 15:35

      By a judge, that is.

      kolobe - 2011-09-14 15:54

      bees?

      TamaraSays - 2011-09-14 16:01

      Seperate issue much?

      TamaraSays - 2011-09-14 16:04

      Let me break it down to you Kolobe, in terms you might understand: If you and your neighbor both kill a person, you cannot use the excuse that your neighbor also killed someone to defend yourself. You are both wrong, because you both committed a crime. As such, if I were to make a racist remark, that amounted to hate speech, I could not then say 'But Malema is a racist pig who uses hate speech all the time,' even though it is true, in my own defence, because I would be as guilty as he is. Focus on the issue at hand, instead of trying to pass the buck. Malema is a racist. A song that calls for the killing of people based on race is racist hate speech. That song should not be sung. The end.

      falcon2020 - 2011-09-14 16:10

      why is that so difficult for people to accept?

      TamaraSays - 2011-09-14 16:37

      moafrika, under apartheid, the singing of this song was justified. In the current context, it is not. As for it taking a racist to know one, quite frankly, that is something I would expect to hear on a school playground. Do me a favour - look at international papers, and international sites. Google Malema, and 'black Marxist racist' and see what you come up with. It's not only local people who can see that Malema is a racist - the WHOLE WORLD knows it.

      Colin - 2011-09-14 16:41

      moafrika Actually how will you know we are racist if you are not racist yourself? moafrika you even listening to yourself? calling for someone to be killed because he is of a different race makes you racist and if you cannot understand that then... well actually then i wouldn't be very surprised

      Mystre - 2011-09-14 20:20

      @moafrika. You and the rest of the people that support JuJu on news24 are complete retards. Happy hunting in the night while your overweight, overpaid, unintelligent, pathetic excuse for a "Revolutionary Leader" makes animal noises to arouse your spirits. BTW has any double digit IQ holder notice that these JuJubeans say one thing, and then disappear?

      Snoopy88 - 2011-09-15 12:27

      @ Falcon2020 - I think its because they perceive it as losing an argument and not having the last word. The issue is not what matters. If someone within the black community had stood up and said its wrong it may have seen better results. Black people hate being told what to do by whites - the fact that the judge is white doesn't help. I wish we could hear from leaaders respected by everyone.. people who can unite us rather. Why is Desmond Tutu so quiet?

      Koos Poggenpoel - 2011-09-15 17:23

      @moafrica - schweet - so less us bring back the K word.....heaven forbid we use that although it was part of our history and tradition..... What is good for the goose is good for the gander you chop!

  • Sharkbite - 2011-09-14 15:33

    I demand....that you shut the f up!!!!!

  • burtfred - 2011-09-14 15:34

    Julius, You go too far when you sing it. If you didn't sh*tstir, you would be a political nothing. All you have to offer the great impoverished masses is racist rabble-rousing rhetoric; without any delivery. You have no intelligent contribution to make towards growing a better country for all.

      gazzaz - 2011-09-14 16:41

      Well saaid, couldn't agree more!!

  • duncanc - 2011-09-14 15:34

    one might think the ANCYL went too far. Strange that the very laws and mechanims created by the new regime are critiscised when they appear to work against the new regime, or their kin

  • Bushpig - 2011-09-14 15:34

    De la Rey gain jou vry!

  • 5IL3NC3 - 2011-09-14 15:36

    I watched & listened to the judge live, I thought it was well covered & conclusive. I am in full support of the decision to ban the song, and to keep it that way. I'm glad it's gone...feels like a slightly better country. Objecting to the song ban saying that the "white" minority are trying to re-write history is so absurd and is a fact-less lie. They are just trying to make us chase shadows with no proof that history has now been re-written. You have to ask yourself the question if you do infact think Malema is such a great leader, why would he miss out on a judgement being handed down for something so serious as "re-writing" history. I'm sure he had much more important things to do than attend court. I sincerely doubt that he had anything remotely more constructive to do than attend the hearing. He has no place in the modern world! Those that argue with that fact, if you want proof it is in his behavior, his malevolent attitude to anyone who is not a South African born majority. Minorities, foreigners, tax payer's money (which according to the latest statements would be "white" money), government procedure (tenders) have all fallen victim to his all round lack of decorum & destructive persona. Again history has not been re-written there is no proof of this at all, it's an attempt to make people chase shadows. He must now deprate for the sake of all SOuth Africans. All South Africans.

  • ME - 2011-09-14 15:36

    Only thing I agree with JM in this article is the Bees Roux aspect. It is impossible to kill someone like that and get a suspended sentence. (However the police must stop being f@*k%n corrupt too!!) I don't think he is wrong there.

      Deut8 - 2011-09-14 18:08

      The Bees Roux case was thoroughly agreed upon by both parties - it was a settlement. The family took the cash cause it was the easy and guaranteed money. Remember - they did not have to pay the legal fees - it was State VS. Roux. That Cop got what many others like him should be scared of - A drunk boer that does not like corrupt officials and hates being manipulated and forced into giving his cash. No - Malseun No relevance.

      HerrCranium - 2011-09-14 18:09

      Hmm hes got a point, a well known one yes but a point indeed. so it proves his IQ may by just a diget surpass his shoesize

  • duncanc - 2011-09-14 15:36

    The man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the crowd ~ James Crook Imgaine Julius leading the crowd....

  • pants - 2011-09-14 15:37

    Holy Cow Malema is retarded.... "The judge made his findings without consulting (Malema) him". thats how the courts work you idiot.....

  • Natie85 - 2011-09-14 15:37

    Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt the ANC ban the song De La Rey to be played at rugby games few years back? Its also just a history song, supporting a minority then. Why got scared?

  • Liveace - 2011-09-14 15:37

    Struggle Song? Why are you struggling Malema? Maybe the strings your puppet master (Zuma)is pulling is hurting your wrists? Malema and co is living in the pre SA - this is post SA and yet they carry on with struggle songs yet we are amused by the Zuma Malema Circus showcase!

      Deut8 - 2011-09-14 18:11

      He has made it very cleat - he stuggles against the fact that his people does not have Economic Freedom in that they do not own the "means of production" In a Knowledge economy (Which ours is now by 89%), he is struggling against the fact that he does not have a brain.

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-09-14 15:37

    What a chop

  • Liveace - 2011-09-14 15:40

    Struggle Song? Why are you struggling Malema? Maybe the strings your puppet master (Zuma)is pulling is hurting your wrists? Malema and co is living in the pre SA - this is post SA and yet they carry on with struggle songs. We are amused by the Zuma Malema Circus showcase whilst the outside world look at us (South Africa) as the hub of Africa with these clowns as headboys!

  • linda.pieters3 - 2011-09-14 15:40

    hahaha what an idiot, Malema's arguements are so stupid it is unbelievable. Kill the boer is a blatant order from his part, he is definately fooling himself if he thinks anyone will fall for it and is playing time just to look intelligent.

      BafoonSpotter - 2011-09-14 15:50

      Intelligent and Malema should never ever be used in the same reference Linda. My neighbour's near-death irritating chiuaua sports more intelligence in the tip of his tail....

  • pragmatism - 2011-09-14 15:41

    the song will be sang ... regardless...

      Servaas - 2011-09-14 16:38

      K word will be used... REGARDLESS.

      Colin - 2011-09-14 16:47

      and so wil bobbejaan klim die berg

      Ayoba - 2011-09-14 17:13

      Pig word will be used.

      burtfred - 2011-09-14 17:18

      The song will be "sung", pragmatic old chap, sung.

      gaharaa - 2011-09-15 05:51

      The guns will be shot (or is that shat pragmatism?) and the blood will flow. People will die and not all of them will be the people you want dead dude. A new struggle will arise my friend and people like you will be called to the frontlines by your dearest k-word leader. I promise you this man. He will not take that bullet for you. Saying that though, neither will I. Maybe by that time I will be long gone anyway. I will watch all the above on the news though. Maybe I'll sigh with relief, maybe I will care. I don't know. But people like YOU will most probably save me and my families life. Maybe I will thank you. If you're still alive. Maybe I won't. That really depends on how vile you are now.

      gaharaa - 2011-09-15 05:52

      On second thoughts I wouldn't even thank you if you personally paid for our plane tickets.

  • Joquim - 2011-09-14 15:41

    what a dufus

  • stiaan.schoeman - 2011-09-14 15:42

    Julius, I know you will never read this, but that song is racist and violent... Doesn't matter where it originated, it does not have any place in modern SA.

  • Ingie - 2011-09-14 15:42

    PRICK!!

  • FerretGee - 2011-09-14 15:42

    Bees Roux murdered someone, he should be jailed. Robert McBride's deeds killed more than one (remember the Magoo's bombing) he should have been jailed, but he became a police chief instead. His drunken driving charge was more than than just that, it was tampering with evidence, trying to pervert the course of justice etc, he should be jailed for that. How does McBride now all of a sudden become a "minority". I'm sick of Malema and co "demanding" everything and throwing hissy fits when decisions don't go his way!

  • Ingie - 2011-09-14 15:43

    SO THAT MEANS WE CAN USE THE "K" WORD WHENEVER WITHOUT GETTING REPRIMANDED

      Servaas - 2011-09-14 16:08

      @pragmatism: What makes you think we fear you?? Seriously, you ANCYL idiots need to stop flattering yourself. Jy kort net een PK teen die oor.

      Northern Stormer - 2011-09-14 16:38

      Okay tell me this - I am the owner of my own business, I am afrikaans - WHO THE HELL IN THIS WORLD WILL STOP ME FROM TALKING ABOUT MY "VERSKAFFERS"(SUPPLIERS FOR YOU IDIOTS WHO DONT UNDERSTAND) - not anyone on this forum not the fat boy - cheers !!!! O yes pragmatism "PARKVIEW" and your chommies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Colin - 2011-09-14 16:48

      o pragmatism big when hiding behind a pc, you lot are all cowards, how else could a small small minority oppress millions and millions of blacks

      Colin - 2011-09-14 16:50

      moafrika roflol, can you actually read? must i remind you of what happened in rwanda, zim, somalia and every single country where you got to rule yourself? civil war and genocide, blacks are killing blacks by the millions just for the fun and you say you love peace?

      Ayoba - 2011-09-14 17:15

      @Ingie, if that is the case, blacks would also call pink people pigs. That would not be good.

      aman - 2011-09-14 17:37

      Would you really lower yourself to that level?

      ttrevenen - 2011-09-15 01:24

      Hmmm. I did ponder this question myself. Especially in light of the fact that whites are called "mlungu's" on a daily basis and most of them (whites) think this is a term of respect when in fact it is a derogatory term which means the "white scum on the wave" (or sea... depends on who is translating). Lets face it, racism is alive and festoring in SA - we really need to recognise and stamp it out on both side of the rainbow...

      cookEmonster - 2011-09-15 08:40

      moafrika - hahahaha what?! Black people like peace? What planet are you from? And Ayoba, please, when are you going to realize white people aren't so touchy, we don't give a damn if you call us pink pigs or whatever else you want to. Sticks and stones my friend! You're going to have to do better than that to insult me.

      TOPPIE143 - 2011-09-15 12:44

      @Servaas...Brilliant!! As you said he needs a "MOERSE PK teen die oor" to clear his peabrain. He won't even go to the cops out of respect!

  • Wayne - 2011-09-14 15:43

    Does that mean we can use the k word after all it is part of the history of South Africa? Albeit a bad part it still is part of the history? So should we make 2 wrongs to make a right? Nope two wrongs are two wrongs and what he said was plain wrong. Time the ANC gave him something to think about. WHen you are ill disaplined you get a punished.

  • Ederik - 2011-09-14 15:43

    Malema, the revolution is long gone! So start singing about peace and love and caring for one another and see how this country can change for the better for all of us.

  • riaan74 - 2011-09-14 15:44

    @ Overprivileged_Underprivileged, stop copy and past the same sh*t in all the forums.

  • Alain - 2011-09-14 15:44

    fear of genocide?... who said anything about that? are you maybe planning a genocide of the minorities?.........

      Face - 2011-09-14 15:47

      we are ready for them!!

  • Corne du Plessis - 2011-09-14 15:44

    Youre time is running out on this earth f ing idiot.

  • Afrikado - 2011-09-14 15:46

    A visit on the social networks is always a stark reminder of lack of love and disdain in which black and white citizens of South Africa hold each other: RACISM. Most comments ooze of resentment that the blacks are a majority in this country and continent. Most people ridicule blacks as opposed to mis/conduct. Other than reflecting poor comprehension and articulation on the part of commentators, one gets a glaring insight into white prejudices in regard to blacks. MALEMA is an individual, with sometimes absurd notions of what should happen to this country. However, the social networks appear to habour a nest of white raving racist who can't resist the opportunity to rubbish a black person. Racism has to be fought at all fronts be it by whites or blacks; otherwise once intelligent black general public embrace racism this country will become hell for whites!

      Valis - 2011-09-14 15:53

      Oh what rubbish. It's the black people who are the hate-filled racists on these forums. Also, this country has already become hell for white AND black, except the ANC cronies of course.

      Afrikado - 2011-09-14 16:08

      @Valis: you are in denial. Most blacks are concerned about the state of the country and corruption. Corrupt government officials, corrupt business persons are stripping this country bare. Contrary to baseless frothing about it being a black thing; this is criminality I find in the black and white population of South Africa. That does not mean I must call the blacks or whites racists or names for being criminals. But, a read-through the comments are self explanatory!

      pop101 - 2011-09-14 16:14

      So why don't these concerned blacks strike, toy-toy or dare I say it...start voting with their brains.

      aman - 2011-09-14 17:45

      No way to contradict what you say. It gets me that insults instead of facts are hurled on these threads. Unfortunately Malema has a lot of support from radicals.

      Afrikado - 2011-09-14 18:53

      @POP101: You would rather see blacks toyi-toyi or strike to deal with issues? Your capacity to come with solutions is severely deprived! For most right thinking black people, in order to take this country to higher and better levels, the majority of this country's (intergrated) population living conditions must improve. ANC remains the most organised forum for blacks to effect change. It is unfortunate and downright criminal that some in the ANC have abused their positions to achieve that is harmful to blacks in particular and the country in general. Until an alternative capable leader forms a party propagating the interests of the majority and the country in general comes up; the ANC remains the only viable option for blacks. Hence you see sporadic ANC uprising against inefficient ANC. No other party provides alternatives! So yeah we are voting with our brains! Thank you for asking.

      Kenko - 2011-09-15 10:52

      @Afrikado - I get your drift, but have you ever considered the fact that the ANC promised their supporters things that NO PARTY can deliver. Not the ANC, not the DA, NO ONE! The fact that blacks still demand these things despite economic realities, make people wonder about their brain power. IF the DA comes to power, we can expect to see a reduction in corruption with the resultant benefit to the country, but they too will be foolish to promise free housing, electricity, water, etc to the ever growing, demanding population. The ANC is failing to address the real issues like unchecked population growth, which is already past tipping point. Something has to give and it will be ugly.

      Snoopy88 - 2011-09-15 12:13

      I see you had nothing to say here about black commentators insinuating that whites don't want peace? You're as racist and xenophobic as the next South African no matter what your skin colour so why don't you try and look past that? (because it is a human trait to dislike or be suspicious of what's different). Some days I'm racist, some days I'm not - it changes on an hourly basis but I work hard at not being that way because I want to teach my children to see further than their own noses. Tell you what I'll make you a deal - when you can really start treating women as your equal I'll let you carry on ranting about racism.

      Snoopy88 - 2011-09-15 12:17

      I'll give you that whites on this forum tend to pounce on any poor black commentator like rabid dogs and bore everyone senseless with the same old tired rants. But the same thing happens on the Sowetan site so... [shrug}. At least we are talking. We might not be hearing each other but we are talking.

      mobiles - 2011-09-16 00:19

      @Kenko ! Spot on ! These uneducated fools still believe what ever the ANC promises !

  • Jacques - 2011-09-14 15:48

    @Overprivileged_Underprivileged - And I suppose only a white man is a racist hey?

  • Brett Sacks - 2011-09-14 15:48

    How does Malema have such an influence on our country? How was Malema used his influence? Was it the right decision baning the singing of the song? Check out my blog: http://brettsacks.blogspot.com/

      willieman - 2011-09-14 15:57

      He does not have any influence at all,you will be shocked to hear the comments of some black folks about this guy.The perception is some compatriots think all black people support this idiot

      Kenko - 2011-09-15 10:59

      @willieman - I've seen it too, black people rejecting Malema, Zuma the ANC and the ANCYL. Then voting day comes, or mass protests, and as quick as a flash they support those that they rejected. I guess they will sing to any tune, as long as they can expect to get something in return. Be it a KFC burger, a T-shirt or empty promises.

  • nic - 2011-09-14 15:48

    "He said Lamont made the finding by himself without consulting him." WTF?? He is a judge. You could not pass standard 8.

  • Michelle - 2011-09-14 15:49

    He just loves the sound of his own voice! When his mouth opens his brain shuts down!!

      Face - 2011-09-14 15:52

      What brain?

  • nixliguori - 2011-09-14 15:49

    "He said Lamont made the finding by himself without consulting him." Why the hell would a judge consult with Malema on a pending judgement, what credentials does this idiot have to be consulted on in a pending case?? Malema seems to think that he is the voice of reason for the youth of South Africa... God help us all!!