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FF+ worried over hate speech challenge

2011-09-15 18:45

Johannesburg - Challenging the "shoot the boer" hate speech ruling in court would send a negative message to the world about relationships in South Africa, the Freedom Front Plus said on Thursday.

FF Plus leader Pieter Mulder said: "Although the message is an oversimplification of the situation in South Africa, it cannot be expected that the world has to understand the intricacies of the ANC's politics."

Judge Colin Lamont ruled in the South Gauteng High Court on Monday that the words of the song containing the "shoot the boer" lyrics constituted hate speech and that they could not be sung.

Mulder said he intended briefing the presidency of the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organisation (UNPO) in Belgium on the ruling on Friday and Saturday.

He represents Afrikaners on the presidency of the organisation.

Mulder said he would tell the UNPO about positive events during South Africa's hosting of the Soccer World Cup last year as well as the "negative of farm murders".

Comments
  • THE-SRG - 2011-09-15 18:57

    Show the world what we face here in SA...with people like Overprivileged_Underprivileged and his hero Malema....do it

      SpetsnazLaz - 2011-09-15 19:03

      Go THE-SRG!

      THE-SRG - 2011-09-15 19:07

      what you are saying carries no weight with me,you are the racist here my friend

      CTScientist - 2011-09-15 19:24

      @ Overprivileged_Underprivileged: As a scientist.. I'm interested to know which pieces of equipment you're referring to. Please elaborate. And yes - most of the scientific community is aware of the painful limitations of the 'lie detector'. They've been obsolete for decades already..

      THE-SRG - 2011-09-15 19:26

      if your idea is correct and we use it to stop racists from coming into power then i fully agree as the ANC and ANCYL will be no more....so its a very good idea from your side

      THE-SRG - 2011-09-15 19:36

      you are defiantly the brainwashed one ....no point in arguing with you anymore...you are either delusional or just a troll seeking attention...this is the most unbelievable crap i have ever heard...go back to bed Micheal Jackson

      Richard - 2011-09-15 20:33

      Wow Over_Under, just wow. You gotta stop smoking the good sh**.

      I Like Everything - 2011-09-15 20:41

      I like it when people think that trolls are serious. Seeing all these comments, it seems Overprivileged has mastered the art of trolling. I'm still puzzled by Kleinjan though, I mean no one's really so stupid as to be so disgustingly racist AND put their Facebook profile on this site, right? Anyway, everyone should keep on doing what they're doing because I like it!

      http404 - 2011-09-15 20:42

      How can one person (Overprivileged_Underprivileged) manage to talk so much BS in every comment?

      Richard - 2011-09-15 20:55

      Did you read his post above? Whether you are black, white, coloured, a troll, not a troll.... you have to be taking something strong to come up with something like that. Hahaha. He also seems to think a lot of tests have been done. Tests on white people, tests on coloured people. Thats a lot of tests my boi!

      observer - 2011-09-15 21:10

      Dear Mr Overprivileged. If we start using lie detectors, our entire current government would be proven racists and criminals....well, we know about the criminals, the racists we just need a rubber stamp on. A racist is someone that discriminates against another because of difference in appearance, colour etc... you stating that all white people are racists.....makes you a racist.

  • I Like Everything - 2011-09-15 18:58

    The decision should be challenged. I like living in a country where freedom of speech is given top priority and if it can't be proven that this song constitutes incitement then the ruling should be overturned.. And for the FF plus to be worried about appealing any decision in a court of law shows their disregard for the judiciary

      THE-SRG - 2011-09-15 19:03

      i dont like you anymore,used to but not anymore....bloody racist....if you like that song then you like racism and the idea of shooting whites

      I Like Everything - 2011-09-15 19:26

      @ SRG.. To imply that I'm a racist on the basis that I believe freedom of speech should only be limited only in certain extreme circumstances is flawed logic to say the least. I would certainly support the interdict if a proven correlation between the song and the murders could be found, just as I support the right to challenge the decision should this not be the case. But I like that you resort to childish name-calling whenever someone happens to disagree with any of your opinions.

      THE-SRG - 2011-09-15 19:44

      it seems every one disagrees with your logic of liking everything including singing a song about killing people...no matter what color or creed a leading official should not be singing about killing a race,freedom of speech only goes so far....how do you like that?

      I Like Everything - 2011-09-15 20:08

      You don't seem to understand my argument. I have no problem with the interdict as long as the correlation is proven. There are many popular songs about murder and death, but it would obviously be absurd to ban them all because of the unproven assumption that they incite violence in some way. I still don't get how saying that I think this decision should go to the SCA to be further analysed makes me a racist. I like my right to freedom of speech the way it is, but if it is proven to incite murder I would support the ban.

      King Cheetah - 2011-09-15 20:10

      To those that did not know. The ANC themselves enacted the following Legislation which addresses the JuJu Malema fiasco!! why its not all addressed under this Legislation and be done with it ...sheesh!!!! In 2000, the Parliament of South African enacted Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.[12] that contains the following clause relating to hate speech: 10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to - (a) be hurtful; (b) be harmful or to incite harm; (c) promote or propagate hatred. So to the ANC and JuJU and his puppets....HAHAHA!!! YOUR OWN REGIME OUTLAWED THE WORDS OF THE SONG and the K Word and similar utterences in the YEAR 2000. .....LIVE WITH THE FACT...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RECENT JUDGE'S RULING OR HOW HE ADDED TO IT. HE MERELY REINFORCED WHAT THE ANC THEMSELVES PAST THROUGH PARLIAMENT. NOW ITS WRONG???? MUST BE CONTESTED?? THEY GOING TO CONTEST THIER OWN LAWS NOW??? SO IT GOES TO PROVE THE RIGHT HAND DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE LEFT HAND IS DOING..SEEMINGLY NEVER WILL..... WAITTTTTTTTTTTT THIS IS AFRICAAAAAAAA!!!! LOL

  • crackerr - 2011-09-15 19:04

    I have reported the vulgar lies and anti-white comments by the privileged challenged commentator. We can no longer afford such lies in this country with the current attitudes polarized by haters of their fellow South Africans.

      THE-SRG - 2011-09-15 19:13

      you Overprivileged_Underprivileged are the true meaning of racist,you are hateful and obstructive to growth on either side...get off your high horse and look inside yourself to find the true racist

      crackerr - 2011-09-15 19:14

      Privileged whatever I also think you are pissed. Your comments do not belong on this public forum. Pick a different forum that is visited by specialist haters. Not this one. As a matter of correction, you have no clue of the true history of this country. I again appeal to News24 to remove your hateful comments.

      observer - 2011-09-15 21:19

      Mr Under....achiever. White people didn't break into your home. They came here, bought some land, paid with it from their lives, moved on...moved in NEXT to you and brought you in fromt he cold. You then killed his children and he decided to lock you in the shed. Hate begets hate. Please dont think Black people were angels living next to streams of milk chocolate and candy bearing trees. Apartheid was was a bad bad bad thing...but the white man has said he is sorry, and wants to move on, he has given you his house and not willing to live in the shed, keeps building himself a house. Your inability to forgive and forget and constant hate mongering is what is keeping this country moving forward. You are now the racist and the one breaking into someone else's house, once again killing his children. Go crawl back into your hole and wallow in shame. You say White people have no moral compass, no my friend, your brothers have none.

  • nvl - 2011-09-15 19:12

    Viva FF+ Viva!!

  • ErrolNdevu - 2011-09-15 19:28

    Overprivileged_Underprivilege you must be coloured? or indian? Maybe a mix. too clever for a black man. You are wrong my friend! Not all whites are racist, and even if they are you must be one of the biggest racists, full of envy! Go work for you money, fool From a black man

      leonard - 2011-09-15 19:44

      @Errol. I have tried to warn people about this loon.Pleased to see that somebody agree`s with me.I believe IT is a white man pulling everyone`s chain.Your reasoning is a 1000% correct.He also posts under the name vegetarian amongst others.

      Kleinjan - 2011-09-15 20:55

      ErrolNdevu, Thank you.

      observer - 2011-09-15 21:28

      A black man saying too clever for a black man. What self respecting human are you? I think this site is full of instigators claiming to be someone they are not.

      Fedup - 2011-09-22 16:03

      Well said sir

  • Georgp2 - 2011-09-15 19:29

    The longer this goes on the more harm gets done. A no arrest was what was required. Now Malema created this burning fire and desire. We dont need this Malema is fueling another revolution for what purpose.

  • Mandla - 2011-09-15 19:32

    FF should have thought about the implication first before taking these matter to court.Any matter brought before the courts is subject to challeges especially if the other party is not happy about the outcome.FF Plus should not expect the ANC to keep quite if they feel that they organisation values are being wippedout in the name of democracy by opposing parties you should forget that.We should be happy about the systems in the country because what is happening in the country can not happen in other African states which i do not want to name.This matter was supposed to be settled out of court as it was a concern to civil society in general.Farm killings are affecting both sides that is farmers and farm workers.In future FF as a respected political party should adivice the Afriforum before they take civil society matter to court and this will save us a great deal of being seen by the ouside world as people who are divided on race.

      King Cheetah - 2011-09-15 20:12

      The ANC themselves enacted the following Legislation which addresses the JuJu Malema fiasco!! why its not all addressed under this Legislation and be done with it ...sheesh!!!! In 2000, the Parliament of South African enacted Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.[12] that contains the following clause relating to hate speech: 10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to - (a) be hurtful; (b) be harmful or to incite harm; (c) promote or propagate hatred. So to the ANC and JuJU and his puppets....HAHAHA!!! YOUR OWN REGIME OUTLAWED THE WORDS OF THE SONG and the K Word and similar utterences in the YEAR 2000. .....LIVE WITH THE FACT...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RECENT JUDGE'S RULING OR HOW HE ADDED TO IT. HE MERELY REINFORCED WHAT THE ANC THEMSELVES PAST THROUGH PARLIAMENT. NOW ITS WRONG???? MUST BE CONTESTED?? THEY GOING TO CONTEST THIER OWN LAWS NOW??? SO IT GOES TO PROVE THE RIGHT HAND DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE LEFT HAND IS DOING..SEEMINGLY NEVER WILL..... WAITTTTTTTTTTTT THIS IS AFRICAAAAAAAA!!!! LOL

      Woebetide - 2011-09-15 20:52

      Why do you feel Afriforum is not allowed to make use of the legal forums to address their concerns? Julius Malema has never indicated that he is willing to accept that he could be wrong in this matter. How else do you propose they attempt to air their concerns? This is the route that is prescribed by law. If they had protested in front of his house and threatened his children I could understand you being upset. Afriforum did nothing wrong.

      crackerr - 2011-09-15 21:01

      @ Muffyforu Where is it taking place on "both sides" that farm workers are killed and fed to lions by farmers? It is strongly suggested that you stay out of this forum if you are not capable of distinguishing between propaganda and reality. I doubt that you are a farmer at all. You seem like just another sly little taking, repulsive, underhanded propagandist. I repeat: Where do you get it from that farmers are killing their workers? Did you make your statement out of stupidity or are you a "plant" here? Probably planted by yourself.

      Mandla - 2011-09-15 22:14

      King Cheetah-my argumant is based on the following statemant(Challenging the "shoot the boer" hate speech ruling in court would send a negative message to the world about relationships in South Africa, the Freedom Front Plus said on Thursday).Had it knwon this case shuold`nt have been brought before the courts.Legislations in place are good and should be followed.How ever issues we as society feel that they might divide the society should be dealt with differntly.I am sure if Julias had been offered the oppotunity to engage he was going to accept.Just like nationalisation and expropriation of land without compensation,nobody is interested in engaging the ANCYL in this matter.People are only responding by crucifying Julias Malema of which that will never solve the problem at hand.Please South Africa engage in matters you think you differ from one other.

  • tiron - 2011-09-15 20:00

    We need responsible leaders in our country, not populist pretenders like Malema who only stir issues to fuel their own pockets. Why can't we leave the bad parts of our history behind and build on a better future for all? The right wing idiots and Malema want this racial polarization to escalate. It is the only way to convince the ignorant people of this country to take drastic steps like Over-Under, the Boeremag, Suidlanders and ANCYL idiots. We should not become a country of takers like Zim, but rather a country of building like India, China etc.

      Muffyforu - 2011-09-15 20:05

      Good comment well done

  • Broloks - 2011-09-15 20:13

    @Overprivileged_Underprivileged Ek dog die regime boikot nuus 24. Maar nou ja, jy verstaan seker nie my taal nie, so leef aan in jou droomwêreld. Daar wag 'n groot vrassing vir almal so doof.

      Broloks - 2011-09-15 20:18

      verrasing, skuus

      Muffyforu - 2011-09-16 00:27

      Brokloks - as jou ma en pa nie broer en suster is nie, dan weet ek nie

  • King Cheetah - 2011-09-15 20:17

    So there you have it Over Under and all you other narcistic similar puppets.... THE ANC WROTE THE LAW hahahahahah!!!! READ IT AND WEEP AGAIN ,LOL.....The ANC themselves enacted the following Legislation which addresses the JuJu Malema fiasco!! why its not all addressed under this Legislation and be done with it ...sheesh!!!! In 2000, the Parliament of South African enacted Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.[12] that contains the following clause relating to hate speech: 10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to - (a) be hurtful; (b) be harmful or to incite harm; (c) promote or propagate hatred. So to the ANC and JuJU and his puppets....HAHAHA!!! YOUR OWN REGIME OUTLAWED THE WORDS OF THE SONG and the K Word and similar utterences in the YEAR 2000. .....LIVE WITH THE FACT...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RECENT JUDGE'S RULING OR HOW HE ADDED TO IT. HE MERELY REINFORCED WHAT THE ANC THEMSELVES PAST THROUGH PARLIAMENT. NOW ITS WRONG???? MUST BE CONTESTED?? THEY GOING TO CONTEST THIER OWN LAWS NOW??? SO IT GOES TO PROVE THE RIGHT HAND DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE LEFT HAND IS DOING..SEEMINGLY NEVER WILL..... WAITTTTTTTTTTTT THIS IS AFRICAAAAAAAA!!!! LOL..... you looseeeeeeeee again!!!! hehe!!

  • tracy voster - 2011-09-15 20:20

    You know what the problem is, todays generation are just taking credit for what happened to people in in the pass generation, just get over it, apartheid just doesn't exist anymore. And another thing, we are all going off the path here, we suppose to be commenting on the matter of the "hate speech", and you guys are going on about past matters. REALLY?? yes we have a few loose dumb founded idiots still stuck in the past, but does that mean we should support their moronic mental ways

  • spookhuis - 2011-09-15 20:45

    Overprivileged_Underprivileged - September 15, 2011 at 19:03 Report comment The numberless ball must be knocked off the table. People of colour must unite against racism, the white man. Just so that we understand the game, you sink the white ball you loose the game, you sink the black ball you win. Change your thought pattern, you need the white ball(numberless ball) to win. IDIOT.

  • Woofix - 2011-09-15 20:52

    Please people don't waste your prescious time on over(in his moer)&under(the idiotic standard) It is clear that either he is an drug addict under the infuence or he is an escapee from Juju's madhouse.

  • Woofix - 2011-09-15 21:01

    Dear Pieter Mulder: Although i am not a Vryheidsfront +(watookal) member, i always had respected your integrity and your ability to think and talk the truth propper and clearly. Just one question. Since when is it possible for anyone to understand the intricacies of the ANC? They dont even understand themselves. So please dont imply if there is at all any change to do that. This is not retoric it is plain commensense.

  • crackerr - 2011-09-15 21:03

    @ Muffyforu I commented above and also challenged you. Are you still around?

  • crackerr - 2011-09-15 21:08

    @ Muffyforu Where is it taking place on "both sides" that farm workers are killed and fed to lions by farmers? As you allege. Where are farmers killing their workers? Slyness is assuming new meanings on these forums.

  • observer - 2011-09-15 21:39

    @Sunette. Well said. However, it does not matter how much sense you put forward, the senseless can never understand it. It also goes against the self pity and excuses necessary to justify the ability to NOT achieve what seems so easy (through hard work i must add) for others.

  • Black Sense - 2011-09-15 21:41

    Sunette, I have been an angry black man for a long time. One of the things that have helped me is what a wise white woman once said to me that its critically important to keep my mind calm. Your perspective remains that. Its yours. You are entitled to it. Consider The Land Act of 1913, Poll Tax, Job Reservation, The flogging of Mokopane, Inboeksellings and so many other things in our history which Christian National education conveniently ommitted from the history books that your arguments seem to come from. Overprivileged_Underprivileged said some objectionable things and I'm tired of reporting his comments. In response, out of anger, you insult all black people, their history, their humanity and their dignity. Uncalled for.

      crackerr - 2011-09-15 22:04

      @ Black Sense If only people would appreciate that what is fed into their minds or what they feed into others' minds can be deadly. Feed the minds with the idea that others are less worthy and the results are catastrophic. We must get people to stop feeding others BS. How? Don't know.

      Black Sense - 2011-09-16 10:27

      crackerr, spot on. We just have to keep feeding people the good stuff in our respective spheres of influence. Schools must feed the good stuff, Parents must feed the good stuff and so on. I'm convinced thats the best way if not the only way. There is enough of us to make it work.

      sniperman - 2011-09-19 12:44

      You go brother!! I like you reasoning

      walter.warner1 - 2011-09-22 16:26

      Where are you gonna get food, education and investment from? Most of the above come from white people. Go brother WTF dude, Wake up, smell the sewage outside your door, whites didn't put it there remember, they aren't in power????

  • Gareth - 2011-09-15 21:55

    How can Mulder, who is an elected representative in SA, and a Deputy Minister nogal, claim to be part of an organisation representing so-called unrepresented people. Our constitution allows anybody to organise a party and attempt to win representation in legislative structures. Mulder's participation in this UNPOP body undermines groups of people that may very well be unrepresented and actually oppressed.

  • observer - 2011-09-15 21:56

    @ Black Sense. I applaud your level headedness. And unlike some of these other stirrers, i actually believe you to be a real black man. Lol. Yes, you should be angry, you have every right to be, no white man would go through the same atrocities and not be of a similar mindset. No One is asking you not to be angry, but to move on to a constructive future, where ALL parties do not fall into the mindset and make the same mistakes their forefathers have. Evolution is also to move on from mistakes and grow in maturity.

      Black Sense - 2011-09-16 11:03

      Right on.

  • Muffyforu - 2011-09-15 22:42

    @crackerr - No im am not sleeping i just know the diffrence beteween right and wrong unlike yu, Sunette, under etc. Mark Scott-Crossley was convicted in 2005 for murderring and then tossing his labourer to the lions on his game farm. Go look it up you ignorant prick!!! I am most definately a farmer...... what just because i am not a racist c8nt like you and sunette atc i am not allowed to be a farmer? My begiinerr level emplplyee has more intellegence and insight than you lot. Why do we live in a country where pople are so desperae for work that they are willing to work, as is still the case her in the boland, for aLchohol? Then we wonder why they cannot work on a monday morning? You try live like that you little sh*t

      crackerr - 2011-09-15 23:19

      @ Muffyforu "The Bloemfontein court found the prosecution had not proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Chisale was alive when he was thrown into the enclosure at the Mokwalo white lion project. The judges found the panga wounds inflicted on Chisale by Scott-Crossley's co-accused (Doctor Mathebula and Simon Mathebula), when he was NOT present, could reasonably have caused the deceased's death before he was transported to the lion park. The judges turned around Scott-Crossley's conviction of murder and convicted him on the lesser offence of being an accessory after the fact to murder." I don't know where you think the above extract comes from but in my expert (legal) opinion it is an accurate reflection of how the legal outcome of the matter. Now you still owe a reply to my question. Where are the daily killings you so smoothly support as fact? ALL killings that include of course the ritual of throwing the bodies of workers to lions - of course lions in abundance on every farm. You are a plant. No doubt about it. I do seriously caution against labeling others as not intelligent. You don't know them. You little liar. Exposed. One down. So many more to go. I think I detect something familiar in your writing style. You been around for long and under which user name? Hehehehehe....... Before it slips my mind, how about a humble apology from you concerning your lying information on the lion case. You underestimate others....you become their fool.

  • crackerr - 2011-09-15 23:22

    @ Muffyforu I'm not spending much longer here. So let's have your apology now. And of course your explanation for the falsities you support here. You are a plant. In more than one sense. So-called farmer! Hah!

  • Serame - 2011-09-16 08:39

    one concern..has any1 ever asked why blacks dont interfere on nonafrican politics...this is getting too complex,to the very best of my knowledge there is nothing like afriforum/black management forum in europe..europan descendant must leave africa alone and african descendents must not interfere on european politics..what is it that europeans fight for so much in Africa dat african are not fighting for in Europe..

      crackerr - 2011-09-16 09:33

      In all the European countries there are groups who promote civil rights. Some concentrating on black rights. Did you know that Africa and Europe are connected by sea and land and that our ancestors all moved here from somewhere else?

      WarDog - 2011-09-22 15:45

      @Serame: I agree totally. This whole “black guilt” the world carries on their shoulders must stop. All the help and the aid must stop. Africa must sort out its own problems even if it does lead to the total eradication of all life on the African continent.

  • Badballie - 2011-09-16 10:23

    to late boys, every south african with any human compassion has already ensured that the ruling as well as the ANC regimes reply have been widely circulated internationally, I know I have sent copies to as many people outside our borders as possible. The ANC has no legitimate claim to this country and the so called "democracy" is nothing more than a regime. Majority vote based along racial lines does not a democracy make.

  • SOOTHSAYER - 2011-09-22 15:44

    The "racist boere" must not act "holier than thou" in our country ......... fact is, they still are racists and will do anything in their white-devilish minds to perpertuate white supremacy ........ they must first march against racism, and march against white supremacy ....... then the world will start believing them, fact is they still AWB, Broerderbond etc...... & are strongly against interacial relations in this country ....... so F&%#k dem........They were given opportunity to rule this country, & they past Apartheid Law.......... so pleeeaaaassseeee! @ Peter, the world will laugh @ U, how many black people die every day from criminals ..... & U think farmers are immune from these stupid criminals, we are very busy in our country to be seeking revenge on useful farmers ......... "simply put, stats will tell u only 10 farmers die every few months from crime or killed by yo own people to perpertuate this lies on farm killing, whereas 50 africans die from real crime same period ....

      Servaas - 2011-09-22 15:50

      @Sooth: "in our country". Nitwit, this is my country as much as it is yours! "they still are racists and will do anything in their white-devilish minds to perpertuate white supremacy" - Not my fault you are too lazy to apply your brain and work for something, but hey it's easier to take what does not belong to you hey?? "interacial relations in this country" - Crime and Corruption or as you lot call it Economic liberation. "U think farmers are immune from these stupid criminals, we are very busy in our country to be seeking revenge on useful farmers" - And when you killed all the useful farmers what you going to eat?? GRASS? "@ Peter, the world will laugh @ " Dude, the world is laughing at YOU and the ANC- MAlema is a joke in Kenya where I am as well as all the way up to Dakar and Cape verde islands, he is known as the little Hitler-Wannabe!! "whereas 50 africans die from real crime same period .... " Keep voting ANC, they cant even provide service delivery or reduce crime, but hey, who am I to argue??" Freedom of speech is used to state your view, or in your case show everyone what a racist you are, let alone prove your stupidity!!! GET A LIFE!

      Moi1980 - 2011-09-22 15:56

      "simply put, stats will tell u only 10 farmers die every few months from crime or killed by yo own people to perpertuate this lies on farm killing" Really??? There are no words to describe your level of ignorance.

      John Right - 2011-09-22 16:11

      @SOOTHSAYER Hey Criminal. Stop calling me a Boer because that's racist. "white supremacy" is clearly something you swallowed in now because that's all you can say. Whites haven't been Supreme in this country for 17 years where the hell were you when this happened? We win cases though the Law System not because we control it but because what you as a Criminal in this country is doing to the rest of them. You think everything you do is right and the constitution tells you murder is wrong yet you sing lets murder people. You are wrong. Your thoughts are wrong. and now its rasist that you have been proven wrong. Grow the hell up. You weren't even in Apartheid with the Struggle so what are you complaining about. Your older generation think it was great in Apartheid because they could afford to live and have jobs and now all that's left after your kind ruled this country for 17 years are genocidal tendancies because you can't get over the fact your to lazy to work for what you want and would rather plunder steal and murder for it. There was a Black pastor from America that wrote a book clearly saying that the Black cultures haven't provided anything back to society and then he continues if it wasn't for the white man you would have still been in a tribe in the woods hunting with spears for your food. So what have you given the world? So stop being so ungratefully and help build this country rather than being a Criminal expecting everything and not giving anything back.

      Eddie V - 2011-09-22 16:23

      When I say black faciast dogs, I mean exactly that. Not the normal black, indian, colored, white, chinese etc people of the land. YOU and your uneducated, lazy @ssed, cruel, black tjommies who destroy everything in this country, who just WANTS and won't do a decent days work to get it. Just to clear that up. ;)

      JasunX - 2011-09-22 16:35

      @Eddie - you Sir - are a champion.

  • BloodRiver - 2011-09-22 15:51

    The sooner that white South Africans realise that the rest of the world does not care about them being killed by blacks the better. Only we can defend ourselves. Stop whining and start organising.

  • walter.warner1 - 2011-09-22 16:07

    I am white, 33 year old male, in South Africa and had nothing to do with the 'Dumb ass' previous government, or so called 'White empowerment' government. I was put in a private school from 6 with black, coloured, Indian and Muslim kids. I hate racists from all colours. They are narrow minded and let’s face it, these people don’t know the world considering that most countries these days are multi-racial anyway. My question to everybody is, if we were all the same colour, and spoke the same language, would we allow the government to not provide services which were promised and paid for by the tax payer. I'm in the Engineering industry and it is freighting what is not been done on Bulk services and infrastructure. Our country is going down people and us (White, Black, Pink or Green) are going to sit with all the problems again. I don’t care if a Black person, Coloured, or White person runs this country, as long as they appointment people with the right qualifications in the right official positions. Please leave all this racial conflict and join forces to provide the youth of South Africa with a first world country full of opportunities and possibilities.

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