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Failed alliance is a real threat: Cosatu

2011-06-30 14:31

Midrand - A failure of the alliance between the ANC, Cosatu, the SA Communist Party and the SA National Civics Organisation is a real threat, Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said on Thursday.

"There is an element of political demoralisation and disillusionment among our members," Vavi said as the Congress of SA Trade Unions central committee adopted a resolution on the political situation in South Africa.

"Some of them are refusing to engage with political issues," he said.

There were three possible scenarios on the future of the alliance: the creation of a working alliance; a failed alliance; or political withdrawal.

Vavi said a working alliance was the only "viable political option". It would be difficult to make it work "but this is what we want”.

"However, we can't be religious about maintaining the status quo in the alliance, and continue to do the same things if these strategies aren't working. Creative new strategies are needed," he said.

Avoid a failed alliance


"We need to look at the risks and dangers in the current situation and how to mitigate them."

He said everything possible needed to be done to ensure the successful achievement of a working alliance and to prevent a failed alliance or political withdrawal.

While Cosatu views the alliance is the political centre, the ANC sees the party as the political centre.

Cosatu resolved to create an alliance "think tank" and a "capacity to direct government".

"We need to relook at the alliance's relationship with government in terms of engagement on the development agenda," Vavi said.

Cosatu also resolved to politicise the youth by having its affiliates set up youth desks and take them seriously.

The central committee would discuss the socio-economic situation and take decisions on unemployment, poverty and inequality on Thursday afternoon.

Comments
  • Thembisile - 2011-06-30 14:38

    It is time to part ways.

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-06-30 14:53

      Agreed...anyway, not everyone is gonna be in agreement all the time...

      Mdavu-zn - 2011-06-30 14:57

      ja its time to seperate now. we will see if who really rely on the other. GOOD EFFORT!! Can't even wait

      willieman - 2011-06-30 15:02

      "Some of them are refusing to engage with political issues," many do not want to expose themselves because they will be marginalise when it comes to "it is our time to eat".I say IT IS TIME TO PART WAYS.It is time to see the real issues if you guys disband the alliance

      Herdsman - 2011-06-30 15:04

      This is serious hot air, Cosatu is nothing without the ANC if they split they will disappear into the political wilderness, and that goes for the SACP (who now don't support nationalization !) and the ANCYL, never gonna happen ...

      Greybeard - 2011-06-30 15:35

      This show reminds me of Fukushima. Not quite a meltdown yet, but you can be sure that there is going to be a LOT of fall-out and TOXIC WASTE!

      Dougalan - 2011-06-30 16:25

      'Alliance' in my dictionary is defined as: 'A relationship between...organisations for a joint purpose.' Listening to what Vavi is saying about the ANC and what Mal Enema says and what the ANC says, there doesn't appear to be a genuine 'joint purpose' at all. So is there actually an Alliance any more, because they sure aren't acting like one?

      Schalk - 2011-06-30 17:01

      Think about what is good for the country, mr Vavi. Two options: 1. A one party state with the ruling party spending more time fighting among themselves and sorting out the many problems they created for themselves. 2. A healthy, multi-party democracy where everyone keeps everyone else in check and everyone has to actually honor the votes they get by living up to election promises. Come on. Be a man. You know which is the right option...

  • onmyway - 2011-06-30 14:40

    This is one boooooring article....just like Cosatu and its endless poking-of-their-noses-into-everybodies-business.

  • BrokenLink - 2011-06-30 14:40

    Why dont they form their own party? Then we might actually get democracy.

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-06-30 14:56

      Hear hear. They have 3.5 million members if they got 3 million votes that would change the political landscape.

      Mad man - 2011-06-30 15:06

      It`s dangerous to Democracy

      Mad Dog - 2011-06-30 15:10

      Let the alliance fight it out in a democratic way! The sacp and cosatu do not have the political will to form independent parties! They want two or three votes, one as sacp or cosatu and one as anc. It is very important to vote DA in the next elections, for Stability, Prosperity, Education and World-wide Respect!

      Nthlarhi - 2011-06-30 15:13

      The 2.5 million members are supporters of the ANC. They only joined the Cosatu to have job protection.

      Liberty - 2011-06-30 15:25

      @maddog let them fight it out with guns and knives

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-06-30 15:38

      Nah. Many would vote for a labour party. A party that backs their interests.

  • enrolics - 2011-06-30 14:51

    This is utter bull crap. Another political spin story. SA's are being duped. Cosatu, SACP and ANC is never gonna break up. Have you not noticed how all the ANC shenanigans are one long soap story. People like a soap story, and it makes them feel the ANC is like a naughty family member. Yeah they upset you sometimes, but you still love them and won't desert them. Eish, other political parties should take note. You can hear it in how ANC politicians address the masses all the time ... The ANC knows how to play with the hearts of the majority of the SA voters. Other political parties take note ... know how the heads AND hearts of those whose vote you campaigning for!

  • Thor - 2011-06-30 14:53

    Failed alliance... sounds good to me... give it time it may not be 1 or 2 years it may be 5 or 10 but it will happen and it will signal the end of the anc. I cant wait will be having the biggest party.

      ratex - 2011-06-30 15:24

      Thumbs up to you Thor. This is good news. How can you have a democracy in a 1 party state? How can you have a democracy when 1 party has a 70% majority? That aint a democracy, thats socialism / communisim.

  • Nthlarhi - 2011-06-30 14:55

    Sorry to burst your bubbles Mr Vavi. Cosatu and SACP desperately need the ANC and not vice versa. I really would like to see the breaking of the alliance as you are all fooling us. You encouraged people to vote for the ANC last month and now you are singing a different tune.

      Mad Dog - 2011-06-30 15:13

      Right on! Time the anc got some courage and leadership without the sacp and cosatu. Notice how quiet malema is lately? Got his backside kicked into touch by the big boys!

      Thor - 2011-06-30 15:27

      SACP may be depended on the anc for its survival but the anc needs cosatu. I'm telling you now the DA will give cosuatu the same if not more than the anc does at the moment.

  • Stanley Black - 2011-06-30 14:56

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  • MandlaSithole - 2011-06-30 14:56

    The Alliance has run it's course. Maybe Vavi should be in talks with the DA..... Wishful thinking huh? http://www.facebook.com/pages/Moeletsi-The-President/205134709529957

      BrokenLink - 2011-06-30 15:04

      That would be great, but very unlikely.

      Nthlarhi - 2011-06-30 15:10

      Vavi can talk with the DA but that doesn't mean that the union members will follow him as sheep to Zilleville instead he will move alone and the ANC will create another union to protect black workers.

      BMFree - 2011-06-30 15:12

      Now that would be something. If cosato and the DA join forces weeeeee there goes the ANC, Kross Fingers.

      Mad Dog - 2011-06-30 15:16

      Yes, the unions should cut ties with the anc and talk to ALL political parties. Act more like a union than a political party.

      Mad Hatter - 2011-06-30 15:22

      I think the biggest loser will be the communist party but the big winner will be COSATU as they can use their support base as leverage with parties to lobby for their interests and be more flexible in their approach to public sector collective bargaining(what they actually mandated to do). The ANC will lose some support but will be more streamlined and efficient without the burden of alliance bearucracy.Buddy buddy with the DA .....unlikely at the moment but Cosatu should be engaging all parties in any case if they want a holistic view on the needs of all South Africans and how they can accomodate/merge these with the demands of their members in a pragmatic fashion.

      Cire - 2011-06-30 15:53

      That's like suggesting petrol puts out fires! The DA and Cosatu are on opposite ends of the spectrum!

      African'shtr - 2011-06-30 16:27

      People don't underestimate Vavi, that man has got lot of powers ask your selves, Why did the union not agree to the government to take away vavi from his position as general secretary of COSATU, the only reason is one without vavi they are toothless. who else on cosatu do you here shouting out loud about "ticking time bomb" of up coming strike beside vavi, the answer is non but Vavi. beware of that man, most people support him even the ones who are anti anc. and also something that you need to know is most people are only supporting anc to feed them selves they don't like most of the leaders there. a clear a example in Umthatha members of the ANC voted for a UDM counciller to be a mayor of the OR tambo municipality, what does that tell you?

  • PieterWolf - 2011-06-30 14:58

    Malema had a part in breaking the aliance.....

      Mad Dog - 2011-06-30 15:16

      Yes, he stirred the pot! Actually malema is paid by the DA!

  • Bla Bla - 2011-06-30 15:03

    Catch a wake up Vavi, do the right thing and cancel you ANC pay tjek. You like to talk and do nothing regarding the failure of the ANC, what about the millions that are wasted by the municipalities?

      African'shtr - 2011-06-30 16:28

      thus why there will be a watch dog that is going to be created in december so be warned brother, I'm watching you

  • Judith - 2011-06-30 15:05

    It's high time a break occurred as it would open up a interesting dynamic and break the log jams

  • Mad Dog - 2011-06-30 15:06

    Notice how it used to be an alliance of the anc, cosatu and the sacp but now miraculously includes the SA National Civics Organisation (sic, SAPA cannot spell!)? This is a tri-partate alliance with four corners? It won't work with three corners let alone four! The anc is cracking up! Ha! Ha! Vote DA in the next elections for Stability, Prosperity, Education and World-wide Respect!

  • BMFree - 2011-06-30 15:07

    I cosato can act as the ANC's concience mayby there is a chance but I doubt that the powerhungy will bite on this shared contoll.

  • Johan - 2011-06-30 15:08

    Vavi is fed up with the ANCYL, corruption and tenderpreneurs. He is concerned with job creation and sound economical policies. He knows that the existing ones are not working and it will never work under the ANC. Part with them Vavi - time for a new political dimension. " The labour party - here we come !

  • ShakaN - 2011-06-30 15:09

    A failue in the alliance is good for South Africa, why? because competition between groups in power is better for us.

  • call a spade - 2011-06-30 15:09

    There were three possible scenarios on the future of the alliance: the creation of a working alliance; a failed alliance; or political withdrawal. If failed alliance by implication means a new political party then it will be a big boost for democrasy. GO FOR IT VAVI

  • Robert M - 2011-06-30 15:17

    Costatu is like a girlfriend who sees a future in an abusive ralationship,she keeps on telling herself all will be good.

  • willieman - 2011-06-30 15:19

    I agree ,which policy does one support if one is a member of three organisations that differ in political ideology,this alliace is doomed.Ka sepedi ba re "o ka se kgone go direla marena a mantshi ka nako e tee

  • melchiedek - 2011-06-30 15:34

    if it doesnt work let it go

  • Olapic - 2011-06-30 15:35

    great article

  • josedecabo - 2011-06-30 15:38

    Great Article

  • bebe - 2011-06-30 15:48

    The ANC has failed at everything else, why should an alliance be any different.

  • Airborne68 - 2011-06-30 15:51

    Kry vir julle....

  • catij001 - 2011-06-30 16:18

    @ Nthlarhi - June 30, 2011 at 14:10 - That is just the problem. They only represent tehrights of one race. In a democracy that cannot work. They claim to fight for the workers out there but it all depends on your demographic. Where I work (a very well known corporate in this country who employ 70% black people), if we go on strike we will get fired.

      Totman - 2011-06-30 16:45

      I saw this company mentality in 1994/5 as well. The unhappy whites were told, at a big company, that if they do no like it they can easily be replaced by black people and nothing will happen to the company. These whites were bullied into working from 6 till work was done. The earliest was 18:00, but most left at 19:00 and some had to work until 22:00. No overtime. They were to scared to refused. It personally made me just more determent to based everything on right and wrong using different colours to stand together against this practice. The colour of there bosses and owners were the same than those white workers. So, Cosato stop politicizes labor and stick to the core of your existences.

  • Dave - 2011-06-30 16:20

    "South Africa is the only country in the world where affirmative action is in the favour of the majority who has complete political control. The fact that the political majority requires affirmative action to protect them against a 9% minority group is testament to a complete failure on their part to build their own wealth making structures, such that their only solution is to take it from others." - London Times

  • Lesley - 2011-06-30 16:32

    Cosatu is an organisation which is still operating in the dark ages like the rest of Africa. Africa need to move into the 21st century if it wants to succeed.

  • Lesley - 2011-06-30 16:34

    If Cosatu and the Anc spli, the Anc would still be voted into power. The Anc does not need Cosatu.

  • Wonderboy - 2011-06-30 17:01

    COSATU is a trade union, No? How then do they form part of a tri-partate political party? They should be looking out for their members no matter which political party is in government. They should actually be apolitical. This is an historical issue where they were formed just to oppose the previous government in any way possible. They were basically an arm of the ANC which was banned at the time. I wonder if it has not become time for them to become a real trade union.

  • Phaedioux - 2011-06-30 17:18

    During Apartheid, we had a government that we didn't/couldn't vote for. Now, we have a government that we didn't vote for (SACP and Cosatu parasites). It would be far better if they formed their own political parties so that the voters can decide who it is they want to govern SA. Bring back constituency based elections for ALL 3 tiers of government so that the communities can hold their elected officials to account. Do away with these 'lists' that are manipulated and used as a means of providing jobs for pals, family members and people to whom favours are owed. Limit the Youth Leagues areas of concern/involvement to only include youth matters (i.e. education, discipline, skills training and employment opportunities).

  • rumsour - 2011-06-30 18:36

    Cosatu will never leave their alliance with the ANC, the ANC is the political power in the country and the Cosatu leadership want to be part of that power. Cosatu should leave the alliance and fulfil their mandate, which is to serve their members.

  • maseratifitt - 2011-06-30 21:13

    A failed alliance would probably be better for S.A. than a united alliance. No entity can cause S.A. more harm than the alliance did so far.

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