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Gaddafi called to tell 'his side of story'

2011-03-09 22:34

Cape Town - The presidency will not be drawn into "rumours and distortions" about President Jacob Zuma's conversation with Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, Zuma's spokesperson Zizi Kodwa said on Wednesday.

"The Presidency will not be drawn into rumours and distortions of the conversation with the Leader of Libya, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, who had called to explain his side of the story," Kodwa said in a statement.

The Democratic Alliance had earlier called on Zuma to clarify BBC reports about a telephone conversation with the Libyan leader.

"The Democratic Alliance notes with concern reports in the international press of a telephone conversation between President [Jacob] Zuma and Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi," the DA's parliamentary leader Athol Trollip said in a statement.

He said BBC Monitoring was reporting that Libyan TV had quoted Zuma as "stressing the need not to depend on tendentious reports circulated by foreign media outlets" during the phone call.

Zuma reportedly also called on the African Union to "take decisive action and uncover the conspiracy that Libya is facing".

Kodwa said there was no "ambiguity" about South Africa's position on Libya.

"President Zuma has spoken out clearly on the Libyan question. South Africa has openly condemned the loss of life and attacks on civilians and reported violations of human rights in Libya.

"The country supports the positions taken by the African Union and the United Nations on Libya and there has never been any ambiguity about the position of either President Zuma or the country," said Kodwa.

Comments
  • Macho Mike - 2011-03-09 22:46

    Well i have yet to hear Mr. Zuma openly and publicly condemn this evil tyrant who is murdering his very own people. This is not surprising, given the buddy buddy hug hug friendship he enjoys with tyrants like Mugabe.

  • Sabsi - 2011-03-09 23:14

    this is very, very scary!!!!

  • Hans-Erik Iken - 2011-03-09 23:38

    To decode the double speak from the spokeperson: Yes, there was a phonecall, Yes, Zuma said what was reported (but again the quote is out of context, never heard that one before), No, Zuma and the government do not want to call Gadaffi what he is: a maniac, mass mutderer responsable for the genocide taking place against his own people, a psychopath and a thief that robbed his own country blind. The only question remaining is WHY they will not condemn Gadaffi openly and as harshly as others. Surely as an african nation, and an important one at that, South Africa should take a clear stand against the oppression of a people by its own government? That is where the ANC has its roots afterall. An organisation that claims to promote free democracy and fair treatment of civilians by its government. They oppose all state terrorism as the old Apartheid regime committed. So surely they will make a firm stand against this abuse of power by a repressive regime. Right, looks like I need my meds again nurse, I think I just saw a pig fly as well.

      Sedick - 2011-03-10 00:34

      simple, the answer is money.....money he has given in the past, and money/business deals he has promised the ZuGupta families in the future. Watch this space.........Gadaffi will be living in SA like like Aristide - and we taxpayers will be paying for him......he will then give ZuGupta lessons on how to get rid of your critics...

      phillie - 2011-03-10 01:22

      You are erroneous in your thinking Quote South Africa should take a clear stand against the oppression of a people by its own government? That is where the ANC has its roots afterall. An organisation that claims to promote free democracy and fair treatment of civilians by its government.Unquote What is BEE other than oppression and unfairness to youngsters that were not even born in apartheid?

      Ronald - 2011-03-10 07:32

      maybe I am not the one who understands politics but I think we still have people like you Hans who really don't want to see this country going foward because you keep on blaming not coming up with suggestions. If you were a leader of this country and you are faced with the Libya situation, what would you do? Mr Hansie this is directed to you.

      Hans-Erik Iken - 2011-03-10 07:57

      @Ronald: If it was my call I would do the following in this situation. 1) Unequivocaly condemn the use of military force against the civilians of Libya by its government. 2) As we have a seat in the Sec. Council I would ask our representative to table a motion to let our members (read NATO) establish a no-fly zone over Libya so as to stop the indsicriminate bombing of said civilians. That would be a decent start and in my humble opinion a damn sight better then the current weak response by this government. If you are trying to suggest I would send our army in to sort Gadaffi out I have to say no thanks, they are not ready for that.

      Tamzien - 2011-03-10 08:57

      @ Phillie, youngsters who continue to benefit from their parents ill gotten gains. Who continue to preferred candidates by white employers. Pull your thumb out if you arse bud. While you moan, we learn. When you insult us we learn how to treat you. The white gravy cruise is over get with the program cause we are not about to let others dictate on how we live our lives anytime soon. P.S. I do not support the ANC, but i know the DA is destined for failure if they do not turn their backs on conservative white politics.(its a numbers game)

      gizzy - 2011-03-10 09:34

      Tamzien, wonder why I choked on my coffee reading your comment?

      Felix - 2011-03-10 13:37

      Tamzien, I think you have been blinded by hate. Do you really think 2 wrongs make a right? There should have been a sunset clause with Affirmative action & there should still only be people qualified doing the work they were trained for. This current system will reduce our global competitivity. Education before Employment!

  • isabeljones101 - 2011-03-09 23:52

    What our dishonourable rabble forget is that if you sleep with dogs you're bound to get fleas ....

  • Leon - 2011-03-09 23:57

    You can all be sure that if war comes in Libya against the west and the rest of the world, we (SA) will be called in to help Gaddafi. The reason is that Mandela and Zuma had close ties with Gaddafi in the apartheid years, don't forget he also supply's us with oil. It all make sense now, Gaddafi sends officials to cario for Military help and then Zuma gets " phone a friend call" from Gaddafi. Bah! It doesn't matter we are all screwed if there comes war in Libya. (War in Libya)= (no oil) = (no petrol) = we are doomed.

      Tc - 2011-03-10 06:22

      And, Leon, there remains the undisputed ruour that a previous ANC election campaign was financed by Gadaffi.

      kobus7z - 2011-03-17 20:36

      Gaddafi's son told Euro News today the rebels in Libya will be defeated in a day or two. Libya is 1 of 5 countries in the world that is not controlled by a Rothschilds controlled central bank. [Iraq & Afghanistan have fallen; N Korea, Sudan, Cuba & Iran also left - makes you think] Even here: it's not about race or numbers :-)

  • Sheer Opulence - 2011-03-10 01:01

    I think Impervious leaders should be made an example of. They should be punished as they punished their people...PUBLICLY! The world needs a peace-keeping army (not the UN) to go in and solve the issue by FORCE if they have to. Why should innocent people (Children) have to suffer under greedy nefarious leaders. South Africans should clamor enough to build support for those suffering in Libya.

  • Matt - 2011-03-10 02:47

    You guys are all fools - the west is after the oil plain and simple. Its all propaganda to over throw the current government and get BP etc in for profits. UK and USA are giving the rebels funding and weapons. The fighting is against these rebels. You guys are really bind!

      Peter - 2011-03-10 04:50

      Matty boy, you should have delivered those hallucinatory tablets to the rebels in Libya not swallowing it yourself! AND YES WE ARE BIND! BIND YOU DONT TURN AROUND, WE ARE BIND YOU AND GONNA KICK YOUR BIND

  • Tc - 2011-03-10 06:19

    Once again they say one thing but do the precise opposite. Typical ANC lies and bullshit. One cannot believe anything-anything they say.

  • tokolosxi - 2011-03-10 06:27

    Its all about the oil.........and if u cant see it you are just a sheep following the big herd wherever they go without asking too many questions.Peter.....how can u be so sure that Matt is on acid.....what happened with all the past wars....what about Iraq...weapons of Mass Destruction(WMD).......all over the papers........would u then also have told Matt that he is tripping if he told u that they are only going in for the oil?????Have you seen anything about the info that's coming out in Russia........that what the West are claming about Gadaffi opening fire on his own people is a load of bull......and so there are many other sources of media/info you can get hold of other than CNN....but obviously best of all.....go there yourself and speak to the local people before you start making any conclusions!!!!Open your eyes......open your mind........which might mean that you possibly have to go hang out with Matt for a while for some psychedellic adventures/experience.....hehehe

      goya - 2011-03-10 16:51

      Tokolosxi you are surely an idiot you should see a doctor.

      amos - 2011-03-16 12:25

      Viva 'tokolosxi'.. I think it is 'goya' and all his other like minded cronies that are not only idiots but BIGOTS who are to stupid to comprehend the truth. Where were these bigots when Iraq, Afghanistan,Vietnam,Korea,etc were invaded. Its ok for America to incaserate & torture people at Guantanamo bay for the past 10 years [where is the trial]. Its ok for the Russians to butcher the Chechen freedom fighters, its ok for Israel the butcher over 500 babies and children in Gaza. Its ok for the Indian army to rape thousands of Kashmiri women and kill thousands of Kashmiris. It is not ok for Gadafi to quell a rebellion...because the west needs to steal the Libyan oil. The west is preparing to steal Iranian oil so why not throw in Libya as a BONUS ?

      kobus7z - 2011-03-17 20:41

      some candy would do Pete good

  • steviet888 - 2011-03-10 06:39

    Did you not know? We work for Emperor Zuma. He does not work for us. He is not answerable to the people. Where's his next wife that the slaves must pay for.

      tokolosxi - 2011-03-10 06:45

      Mr.888.............sounds like u have sour grapes cuz your culture/consciousness only allows you to have one wife!!! Why shouldn't people be allowed to have more than one husband or wife if they choose to???

      Anthony - 2011-03-10 08:27

      @tokolsxi. You want more than 1 wife, make many children and then ask why 90% of Africa is starving. IDIOT is too good a word to use on you!

      amos - 2011-03-16 12:57

      dont you "steviet888" have a sister or perhaps a daughter to offer President Zuma? To "Anthony" i say it is not ok to have more than one wife but it is ok to have umpteen concubines and produce Bastards by the dozens , that in western culture for you. No wonder there so many stupid & bigoted comments on this page.

  • Tantrum - 2011-03-10 06:47

    Evil swein .... it is only platkop Zuma and his buddies that believe this third force / conspiracy theories. Catch a f'n wake-up fat-ass - you are sinking this country with your policies!!

  • Kiljoy - 2011-03-10 07:46

    I smell political asylum being offered to the Crazy Colonel !

  • John - 2011-03-10 08:12

    Breakfast Quize For 10 points. Are the Libyan people ? A . Freedon Fighters. (5) B . Rebels.( 3 ) C . Terorists.( 0 ) Question 2: is Colonel Gadaffi ? A . Dictator ( 5 ) B . Tyrant ( 5 ) C . Terorist ( 5 ) congratulations if you scored more than 10 , now go and say a little prayer for the Lybia

      Anthony - 2011-03-10 08:29

      How can you score more than 10 points when the maximum is 10 Mr Gadaffi Jr?

  • Stuart - 2011-03-10 08:14

    THEY ARE ALL FROM THE SAME MELTING POT!

  • Nice Guy - 2011-03-10 08:41

    Maybe they are both lovers and he was phoning to see if Zuma can come show him a good time seeing as his ukranian side kick has given him the boot

  • gizzy - 2011-03-10 09:29

    Zuma used the word "tendentious"? Geez who wrote that word down for him? Too big for a peanut head for him. What a bunch of hypocrites this ANC bunch. Scared that their money lifeline is going to be cut! Typical ANC, couldn't care a less about human life. It's all about MONEY!!!!

  • Chippa - 2011-03-10 09:52

    Whats wrong when two Head of States talk?,are we saying that our Pres should not talk to Gaddaffi? talking to Gadaffi does not neccesarly mean that our Pres agrees with the state of affairs in that country. My home boy Zizi Kodwa Kodwa put it very well that there was no "ambiguity" about South Africa's position on Libya,South Africa has openly condemned the loss of life and attacks on civilians and reported violations of human rights in Libya, and further supports the African Union and the United Union position, What else does the DA wants, dont demostrate your ignorance in public, these are international politics that are foreign to you, can you please build better toilets for the people of Cape Town?

      goya - 2011-03-10 17:01

      Our Pres surely does not disagree or condemn the state of affairs in Libya. I would like to know what you actually know about international politics. At least you have toilets for the people in Cape Town, in the rest of the country there are none, so what is your point.

  • Chippa - 2011-03-10 09:56

    Whats wrong when two Head of States talk?,are we saying that our Pres should not talk to Gaddaffi? talking to Gadaffi does not neccesarly mean that our Pres agrees with the state of affairs in that country. My home boy Zizi Kodwa Kodwa put it very well that there was no "ambiguity" about South Africa's position on Libya,South Africa has openly condemned the loss of life and attacks on civilians and reported violations of human rights in Libya, and further supports the African Union and the United Union position, What else does the DA wants, dont demostrate your ignorance in public, these are international politics that are foreign to you, can you please build better toilets for the people of Cape Town?

  • tokolosxi - 2011-03-10 10:30

    Dear Anthony I have one wife and I'm very happy with only the one but I do respect other peoples' cultures.

      goya - 2011-03-10 17:10

      I do respect other people's cultures, as long as I don'y have to pay for them. God only created Adam and Eve, not Adam & Eve & & &.

  • tokolosxi - 2011-03-10 10:33

    Dear Anthony I have one wife and I'm very happy with only the one but I do respect other peoples' cultures.

  • tshwanecc - 2011-03-10 10:52

    Gaddafi will only call his friends or leaders who may support him.

  • Chippa - 2011-03-10 10:56

    You have said nothing Tshwane city Council (tshwanecc),talk, whats wrong?

  • maseratifitt - 2011-03-10 12:22

    I just called to say "I love you" I just called to say how much I'm scared Lionel Richie.

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