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Helen Zille is unstable: Cosatu

2012-04-25 21:48

Johannesburg - Western Cape Premier Helen Zille's recent comments against Cosatu was a sign of her growing "instability", the provincial branch of the trade federation said on Wednesday.

"Cosatu is not surprised by Zille's comments at the University [of] Stellenbosch. She has for a while now been making the most unusual and surprising statements, some of which she has had to apologise for," Congress of SA Trade Unions Western Cape secretary Tony Ehrenreich said.

"We are growing increasingly concerned about the instability and rashness of the premier and leader of the DA."

He said in a statement that her comments about Cosatu were "inaccurate and misleading".

"Instead of responding in detail here... [I] would be happy to have a public debate with the premier on the issues she had raised," Ehrenreich said.

Wild allegations


"We had extended this challenge to the DA before the Stellenbosch event, but the DA did not want to take up the challenge. I suppose it's easier to make wild allegations if you do not have to respond to the facts."

On Tuesday Zille told students at the university that Cosatu was attempting to "jockey" for more power in the country.

She said South Africans needed to see through Cosatu, because it wanted to "keep unemployed people excluded from jobs and economic opportunities, to protect its power base".

"As the internal battle in the ANC heats up, and Cosatu jockeys for more of the power, it has cleverly tried to paint itself as the 'internal opposition' inside the tripartite alliance," Zille said.

"It is clear that [Cosatu general secretary] Zwelinzima Vavi is engaged in a campaign to construct for himself a power base, from which he will attempt to capture the alliance at the ANC's 2017 conference."

She said that if Vavi wanted to run the country, he should "put his name on the ballot and stand for election".

Envy


Cosatu had previously announced that it would not participate in the Western Cape's economic development partnership [EDP].

“Bizarrely, Cosatu is the only organisation in the whole of the province that has refused to engage with the process since March 2011, when it started,” she reportedly said.

National Cosatu spokesperson Patrick Craven later described Zille's comments as "ludicrous and defamatory".

He said her outburst was motivated by envy at the union federation's ability to mobilise millions of South Africans of all races in its campaigns.

Ehrenreich said Zille had been "dishonest" about the EDP.

"The EDP is structured in a manner to shield the premier's greatest weakness: of not being able to engage constructively with persons and organisations who do not share her views," he said.

"The R2m that has been spent on the EDP process thus far has been an irregular expenditure and has again created jobs for DA pals."

Comments
  • tinush - 2012-04-25 21:58

    Cosatu is unstable... A sheep following a blind mouse...

      Burtfred - 2012-04-25 22:29

      Ehrenf**kingreich the motormac is now a clinical psychologist. What a prat.

      Christelle - 2012-04-25 23:06

      Whahahaha. That is all I can say!

      amanda.victor2 - 2012-04-26 00:52

      Cosatu = smoke and mirrors. They are the ones running the government. Their 'internal' dissatisfaction with the ANC is nothing more than a con job to let the electorate think that there is tension. They must really think we're stupid as a brick to fall for them vilifying Zille as demented. When they can't answer they attack the person. Communism 101.

      deabreu - 2012-04-26 07:09

      The DA wants DEVELOPMENT and to give a lot to the poor by taking just a little bit away from the wealth in this country Cosatu does not want to help, they just want to "demand", they don't want people to work and then they go on the rampage.

      Willie - 2012-04-26 07:21

      Patrick Craven please tell the SA public what has happened to your union membership in the last 3 years!!! Those in the know will tell you that it is diminishing on a yearly basis....so will Cosatu still be a role player in 5 years? Watch this space!!!

      Oscar - 2012-04-26 07:24

      Cosatu is as stable as the ANC hand that holds their puppet strings.

      Jason - 2012-04-26 07:34

      I lol'd when I read this. "The R2m that has been spent on the EDP process thus far has been an irregular expenditure and has again created jobs for DA pals" The irony is blinding.

  • Piet - 2012-04-25 22:00

    Play the ball and not the woman cosatu. But then again you cannot organise a decent protest against the etols seeing that you want to couple all your gripes with a platform that has support. You are just a spineless entity if you are weighed.

      Piet - 2012-04-26 07:09

      Stay Positve Sjanja, stay positive!

      Sean - 2012-04-26 07:26

      Gunja, you are suffereing from a well diagnosed disorder. It's called stupidity. I believe that in your case, the disease is so far entrenched that there is no known cure for it. But look on the bright side, there are lots of people like you who have this self same syndrome.

      Oscar - 2012-04-26 07:27

      Sganja, from your posts you seem to be a drol....sorry I meant troll.

  • fafpetzer - 2012-04-25 22:01

    Here we go again....

      Bob - 2012-04-26 07:47

      This Sganja just opposes anything that makes sense, a real racist little toe rag that manages to wind everyone up. And Sganja what does that mean "ANCYL where are you to solve this woman" we all know where the ANCYL are Sganja, trying to enrich themselves somewhere, at the expense of usually the very people that blindly support them, infact people like YOU.

  • Anton - 2012-04-25 22:02

    The ANC, ANCYL and Cosatu are unstable. So unstable in fact that the stable to them seem unstable.

  • Martin - 2012-04-25 22:04

    I do wish that Helen Zille would take up Ehrenreich's challenge to a debate - as he has claimed himself to have offered. SHe will eat him alive, because the obfuscation and deceit that Cosatu and its office bearers have manifested will wither in the face of reason and rational debate. Her attack on the Trade Union Federations's opposition to joining the provincial forum to debate economic advancement is both appropriate and essential. Cosatu has been unmasked for what it is - a political lobby absorbed with its own quest for office and influence. Zille has spoken truth to power and should be commended for it.

      Geronimo - 2012-04-25 22:16

      No doubt Zille would make fish paste out of the imbecile Ehrenreich but why should she engage in a debate with him? Why should the leader of the opposition and Western Cape premier debate with a lowly secretary of a trade union federation? All it would do is give COSATU more legitimacy and weight than they deserve - exactly what COSATU want. No thanks, the commies can stuff their debate.

      Xavier7034 - 2012-04-25 22:30

      The trouble about trying to "debate" with Ehrenreich, and I have seen this happen on a stage in Joburg when Patricia de Lille was trying to talk - he just goes on and on and on talking, and just does not give the other person a chance to have their say. He has an extreme case of verbal diarrhea, and many people have doubts about his stability. A dangerous man as well....just trying to make a case for the ANC to get back into the W.Cape.

      Theo - 2012-04-26 00:04

      Zille will simply knock this sad Ehrenreich dead in debate. If anyone out there can please inform me of anything positive that Ehrenreich has ever done for the Western Cape or South Africa please let me know, cause i havent seen or heard of it. Another un-educated "cadre"

      Schalk - 2012-04-26 06:25

      dont waste your time Zille. he will think he got power.... anyway, just send him a mirror and he will still loose the debate.

      comurray - 2012-05-06 09:42

      I really cannot see why Helen Zille should stoop to his level, she is a sane and highly educated person with more brain in her little finger than he will ever have in a hundred years.

  • Dave - 2012-04-25 22:04

    Ehrenreich, you are a ANC lakey and a A Hole

      Bob - 2012-04-26 07:50

      Really, so whats your excuse for being abnormal Sganja.

      TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-04-26 08:55

      poor Sganja - go educate yourself.

      Dazz - 2012-04-26 11:14

      Go against Zille and get murdered, haha so much for the normal and educated whites.... i am an uneducated white, but i am white.

  • Thenga - 2012-04-25 22:08

    U should b growing increasingly concerned about your presedent Zuma's behaviour of geting married every year. This isn't gona take this country forward

  • Al - 2012-04-25 22:11

    That's a little rich coming from Cosatu. That's definitely the pot calling the kettle black

  • Andres - 2012-04-25 22:16

    A little rich coming from Tony, commander-and-chief of psychotic outbursts and political blunders. The illegal DA election poster from 2011 courtesy COSATU: "DA Delivers f*kol to the poor." And of course, Tony's famous: "BRT and bike lanes up the West Coast are racist." And, if you want to prove you're stable and she's not, COSATU and ANC should finally take her up on a public debate, oh wait... "you're Nando's product!"

  • Crracker - 2012-04-25 22:18

    Have to state what all sane people will appreciate. Helen Zille is not the unstable one.

  • petrofect - 2012-04-25 22:18

    let the country's wealth be nationalised by the unfearful youth rather than being unstabled by the old set of thoughts

      Piet - 2012-04-25 22:33

      damn you are also a special kind of f-knut!

      Crracker - 2012-04-25 22:55

      There is NO wealth for nationalization. Go a bit further up north and see how the value of wealth vanishes when the non-contributors to the wealth try to confiscate it. Result: Now South Africa has to stand in and look after the refugees from those countries. Interesting that it is reported that South Africa once again has to bail out another country. This time Malawi to the tune of 35 million American dollars so they can pay for their fuel. Why? Not to mention the regime in Cuba who parasites us for their survival. If nationalisation is allowed in South Africa who will keep the useless (external) parasites alive? Some of you just don't think.

      betsy.compaan - 2012-04-26 09:49

      @Crracker, didn't you read bong's article? This is exactly what the ANCYL has been promising their dumbed down voters. These are the same people that thought they could walk into the JSE and take the wealth. They have no clue about economics and only when the dust has settled and they push their wheelbarrows around with money that's worth less than toilet paper will they extend their hands to the west because there will be nothing left and only then will they realize that they have been lied to

      Dazz - 2012-04-26 11:18

      silence is Golden when it comes to Zille when you have opposing opinions, they'll farm you alive.... it's a jungle in a zoo hahaha

      Elize - 2012-04-27 17:11

      Jip so the same can happen as what happened to Aurora, pitty the poorest of the poor don't have M-Net maybe watching Carte Blanche last Sunday would have opened their eyes just a little bit.

  • nspaynter - 2012-04-25 22:22

    I don't need Helen Zille to tell me that COSATU is jockeying for power. It's already very obvious to me. COSATU members are just a bunch of bullies in the workplace and they do not not tolerate any opposition. There is no such thing as democracy in their eyes. When there is a strike workers are never given a choice. A worker who does not want to strike is persecuted.

  • Koketso - 2012-04-25 22:23

    Now I dont beleive in the illuminati but it is supposed to own the opposition and ruling party meaning at the end of the day the puppeters always win regardless of the outcome. Now COSATU regards itself as an opposion within the ruling part, thus you get an awkward situation where the goverment protests against itself thus no matter the outcome the ANC wins. The ANC lead alliance is like a Hydra many heads but one body in order to defeat the Hydra the DA needs to slay down the heads with a poison arrow. The DA must attact them as a separate entity even though they belong to the same beast. Zille must keep attacting.

      Burtfred - 2012-04-25 22:30

      Ramble, ramble.

      Gladstone - 2012-04-25 22:48

      @ Koketso you're just like this DA leader of yours. You don't know what to say

      Dazz - 2012-04-26 11:20

      you must be a hip hop artist, hehe you trying keep it up black brothuy

  • Crracker - 2012-04-25 22:32

    Nobody really believes such crap. Hellen Zille is as stable and steadfast as they come. Powerful. Politically honest. That the silly Cosatu may call her bad names makes no difference to the truth. There is also the unanswered question of why Cosatu did not resist the electricity raises about 4 years ago?. They made noises and it all died down. We still haven't been told why. But now they want us all to join them in their anti-e-toll campaign. So much for sanity in the Cosatu ranks. Sorry Cosatus, you as akways fail. Just as you will with this current e-tolling affair. Ask your leaders later why. It will be the same as with the electricity. Today is 25/4. See 25/6.

  • Silindile - 2012-04-25 22:42

    K if we can forget for a minute who made the statement and just focus on what is being said, then I'm sure quite a few people can agree that lately Helen has made quite a few blunders. She seems to be losing it in my eyes, and there are many DA supporters who agree with me.

      gerry.pelser - 2012-04-26 02:36

      Silindile - I agree with the gist of your post. I'm NOT a DA supporter, I'm simply anti-ANC, and the DA is the only viable alternative, and they seem to get things done. This I commend them for, and they will get my vote. This I vote with my head, not with my heart. But Zille has at times said and done some pretty strange things - still, shes the only hope we have of ever unseating the ANC. Yes, yes, I know, tons of thumbs down - because people can't do what thay accuse other of being incapable of: think for themselves.

      Lerato - 2012-04-26 05:59

      @Gerry thought you said you are not a DA supporter and you went on to say you will vote for them. Don't be shy say it with pride that you are DA this is a free country, thanks to the ANC for alienating the NP!!

      Dazz - 2012-04-26 11:22

      funny most of these comments come from "educated" individuals, that often have words to define and describe if not to ridicule Malema's followers.

  • Adil Smit - 2012-04-25 22:45

    What is wrong with Mr Vavi having these ambutions?

      Adil Smit - 2012-04-25 22:47

      Ambitions

      AimeeSchroeder - 2012-04-26 00:26

      He has never been elected by the public to serve in any capacity. His position is 100% due to cosatu's alliance with the anc. How can he serve the workers (who cosatu are supposed to represent) with integrity if he has his own agenda/ambitions to pursue?

      Schalk - 2012-04-26 06:13

      these guys are mad because malema is running with his tail between his legs and there own people did it to him. no they are so confuse ( want die tor het weer van die kurkprop af geval) and dont know who to blame.....

  • Mphofe - 2012-04-25 22:52

    She as an individual can be unstable as you view it but the manner in which she will respond to the matter will be constructive not arrogant and dismissive..don't attempt to shift the focus from the Messed up party to zille no,stick your nose where there're real issues and help find solutions instead of what you're trying to stir

  • kensong.ben - 2012-04-25 23:04

    Women ,get a grip on urself..ur latest outbursts and half baked thoughts r getting ears sore for some of us...

  • Crracker - 2012-04-25 23:23

    According to some if you speak up and speak the truth you are unstable.

      Sinjoku - 2012-04-26 08:09

      LOL....I remember reading similar stories of well know people in the Bible...Not that I am a religeous person, the whole unstable person point, funny how they are regarded stable people now. Hind sight is alsways so easy :)

  • Crracker - 2012-04-25 23:27

    According to some if you are a Cosatu with a medical aid you go to a private, capitalist hospital and share it with the likes of Helen Zille.

  • Crracker - 2012-04-25 23:29

    According to some hypocrisy is alive and well among the elite in Cosatu.

  • Mzuvukile - 2012-04-26 05:34

    To suggest that the Primier Zille is unstable, is total disrespect and the sign of intolerance of the highest order. Insults are unacceptable from whatever corner. As adult leaders let's be exemplary tto the young. Indeed this is another proof tthat Malema learned from the best.

  • Lerato - 2012-04-26 05:36

    Come on madame have the debate, don't turn this into a Malema/Mazibuko thing. Zille knows that debates benefit the opposition because when you are not in power you can say anything - easier said than done.

      bluzulu - 2012-04-26 06:57

      What debate? The fact is RSA is progressing...........

      Piet - 2012-04-26 07:08

      Bluzulu we know! In the wrong direction!

      Jean - 2012-04-26 08:14

      @piet, don't worry, The ANC and co. are trying to re-invent the wheel over and over again. When that fails, play the race card. Or better yet, blame apartheid.

      betsy.compaan - 2012-04-26 09:54

      Hey bluzulu maybe if you actually lived in SA you would know that you have no bloody clue about what is going on in SA

  • mkgatla3 - 2012-04-26 05:37

    It was malema now zille,i supose she's getting older....

  • Steve - 2012-04-26 05:52

    Irresponsibility and stupidity got the best of you 'Madame'. I welcome your apology in advance.

  • Carry - 2012-04-26 06:01

    STOP CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES FOR PETE'S - WORK TOGETHER FOR A CHANGE !! THE anc GOVERNMENT IS GIVING US ENOUGHPROBLEMS, WITHOUT US GOING FOR EACH OTHERS THROATS. PLEASE STOP THIS PETTY CRAP, SO YOU ALL CAN FOCUS ON MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS LIKE THE TOLLS, FUEL PRICE. ESKOM AND MUNICIPAL FEES, THE INFO BILL,...................

      Izak - 2012-04-26 09:25

      The problem here is not that we do not know that we need to work together. The problem is that the ANC wants to call the shots, even in the western cape. Their election slogan was \Together we can do more\, but they really meant something other than what that says when read as it stands. When they don't call the shots, they don't cooperate. Well, lets not generalise. They OFTEN don't cooperate. Understandable I suppose.

      betsy.compaan - 2012-04-26 09:55

      This is the only way the ANC can take the focus off their failures...by behaving like 5 year olds. Thanks guys "great" example to the already screwed up youth

  • Lorna - 2012-04-26 06:15

    That is true critizising wont help the economy.sum ppl think talking gets the job done

  • Gregory - 2012-04-26 06:44

    Aren't all women ?

  • Ad - 2012-04-26 06:46

    This is from the same Ehrenreich who wanted to stand for Mayor? Did he think he had the backing of coloured people? They saw you for what you are Mr Tony a sellout and a coward!! Big mouth good for nothing who only see to his own pocket.Who will take anything serious what comes out his mouth since then?

  • phosa.peter2 - 2012-04-26 06:49

    I doubt if she's in senile already..how old is madam?she try by all means to make the headlines of the newspapers.

  • bluzulu - 2012-04-26 06:50

    ahhh...Helen, Once again nasty Policking...........DA style, How many apologies can we accept?

      Nigel - 2012-04-26 07:42

      stick to the NZ herald please.

      Adil Smit - 2012-04-26 08:18

      Born there or left SA?

      Adil Smit - 2012-04-26 08:23

      Return to SA - Nieu Zealand making you unhappy bluzulu?

      bluzulu - 2012-04-26 09:58

      Happy as , Thanks.

  • Lesley Steele - 2012-04-26 06:50

    Pot calling the kettle black!!

  • christian.helberg - 2012-04-26 06:53

    LOL......what a joke! Seriously cosatu do you really think anyone will believe your bullsh@#.

      IcemanGP - 2012-04-26 07:37

      Yes. About 10 million ignorant sheep.

  • Olebogeng - 2012-04-26 06:53

    IMMATURITY GIRL.LOL

  • francois.delange - 2012-04-26 07:11

    Truth is hurting a lot Tony the motormac!

  • Andile - 2012-04-26 07:11

    If its the white granny dishing out bulls*#t its ok, but somebody else you cry foul. She's old and senile, she's gonna cost DA a lot when comes election time..watch this space.

      WhiteNut - 2012-04-26 07:43

      Zille is about sixty, so calling her senile is hitting way below the belt, it does not take the debate forward. In fact I just shows what kind you are!

      Adil Smit - 2012-04-26 09:03

      DA just won Theewaterskloof from the ANC

  • Nigel - 2012-04-26 07:32

    Cosatu is ANC, the WC is DA, Cosatu does not want the DA to succeed in the WC, because it make the ANC look stupid & useless, which it is, this is why they refuse to be part of the EDP, & refuse to take part in creating jobs here, so its more about spoiling the DA's plans to create jobs & build the WC economy to further its own political agenda , rather than putting its own workers first, just like the ANC does. The problem is that Cosatu cannot be a labour union & a political party at the same time, it will put its political aspirations before its members & this will backfire.

      Wally Walters - 2012-04-26 07:37

      But they are stupid and useless

      phosa.peter2 - 2012-04-26 07:42

      @nigel you are dream'ng, anc run the country includ'ng you nd wcape..your coment has baseless bcos you are contradict'ng urself. Wake-up nd smell a coffee oke.

      Phillys - 2012-04-26 10:49

      well there you are Nigel, phosa peter2 with his huge brain and great argument has put you in your place!! " your coment has baseless bcos you are contradictng urself". I mean, how can you argue with that great ANC type logic?? Nigel you are banished for life for talking sense!!! phosa.peter2, we think you should become a "edu refugee" in the WC!! :)

  • Djim - 2012-04-26 07:35

    Spot on god Zille.

  • alan.cargen - 2012-04-26 07:35

    All politicians are unstable!!

  • Nigel - 2012-04-26 07:39

    This coming from Erenrich, who recently "said HZ is the devil", but you didn't have the guts or the decency to appologise for this you stupid hypocrite, you had the biggest mouth about the open toilets in Makhaza open toilets, but where are you & your hypocritical ANC bum chums now when the toilets at Viljoenskroon in the FS are STILL OPEN, What a effing 2 face sellout you are.

  • Gerhardus - 2012-04-26 07:40

    It's funny how they Cosatu can't really defend itself and turn to call Zille unstable. If that is their only defense it is rather weak and he accusations goes unanswered by them, are they trying to change the subject. It actually makes sense what she is saying.

  • Berto En Petra Mostert - 2012-04-26 07:41

    Helen Ziille is occupying the moral high ground for a long time and Cosatu can only argue by means of personal attacks on her! I despise that. Cosatu destroyed our economic growth and job creation through their unrealistic wage demands and left so many people lobless and resort to crime to survive. Why is the Western Cape the best run province - DA rules!!!!

  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-04-26 07:41

    Then they might as well say the rest of us are unstable because we stand behind her words 100%. cosatu obviously won't admit to their own greed.

  • lance.ernest - 2012-04-26 07:49

    Oh no.

  • Nigel - 2012-04-26 07:52

    Sour grapes, the colored people showed him the door when he wanted to be the major, now he sells out his own members jobs to further his own political career, what a little self-serving hypocrite. His ANCYL buddies have all but crumbled in the WC, the last meeting almost no one showed up, now his toilet bum chum, Malema is outside in the political wilderness, Erenriech you are losing significance fast. When the people of the WC realize how you are trying to destroy jobs in the WC they are going to be pretty angry with you.

  • Richard - 2012-04-26 07:57

    Maybe she is unstable but she is all we have. Has anybody from Gauteng seen how everything in Cape Town works compared to up here. Take a drive through Johannesburg CBD for a comparative look.

      Elize - 2012-04-27 17:22

      @Richard too big a risk driving through Jhb CBD you might loose you life!!

  • Pieter Mulder - 2012-04-26 07:58

    Ag shame. When something works there is something wrong.

  • Patrick - 2012-04-26 08:05

    Pathetic - the 2 biggest parties in the republic have no idea of how to run it. The ANC has proven it and the DA would, if given the chance, just continue the trend. Current politics in the republic is pathetic. Politics here will never be solved at the ballot box. Only through other means ..........

  • FinalJustice - 2012-04-26 08:19

    ANC should have reconsidered proper opposition leader in the WC, Tony Ehrenreich is such a cry-baby!

      Lerato - 2012-04-26 08:39

      On that token I guess the DA should have done the same in Joburg!

  • errol.wagner - 2012-04-26 08:21

    If Hellen Zille is unstable then Cosatu and the ANC are absolutely mad.