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Home affairs assures no 'mass deportations'

2011-08-02 08:51

Pretoria - There will be no "mass deportations" of Zimbabweans, the home affairs department said on Monday.

"Zimbabweans will be treated like any other nationality who are deported when found without proper documentation," head of the Zimbabwe documentation project, Jacob Mamabolo, after confirming that adjudication of all applications from Zimbabweans wishing to legalise their stay in South Africa had been finalised.

Zimbabweans could now collect their permits before the lapse of a grace period this month, after which any Zimbabweans in the country without proper documentation would be deported.

Security

According to the department's statistics, there are approximately 1.5 million Zimbabweans in the country.

A total of 275 762 applications for work, study and business permits were received from undocumented Zimbabweans by the December 31, 2010 deadline, after the government created a special dispensation for them. Many were unable to get their papers in time and will "face the full consequences of South Africa's immigration laws".

Mamabolo said the documentation process would enhance security in the country.

There were however still problems with getting applicants to come to home affairs to have biometric details like fingerprints taken to finalise their applications.

Mamabolo said some of the people might have decided to abandon the process or had left the country.

Other applications were still waiting for travel documents to be issued by Zimbabwean authorities.

SMS notification

Mamabolo said all applicants would know where they stood in terms of their residency status by the end of the month. They would be notified via SMS.

He previously indicted that uncollected permits would be destroyed after the grace period.

Once these processes were finalised Minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma would review the entire project, to ensure that unsuccessful applicants had not been unfairly treated.

Mamabolo could not commit to a time-frame.

There were reports of some Zimbabweans being arrested. Mamabolo said the department had been liaising with law enforcement authorities in this regard.

An appeal was made to those who had applied for amnesty to go to their nearest home affairs offices to complete their amnesty confirmation forms.

Comments
  • Crispy_Duck - 2011-08-02 09:29

    Considering that they are often hard-working people and are a pleasure to employ...maybe we can deport an equal amount of our useless bunch into Zim on an exchange programme?

      Wind - 2011-08-02 11:35

      If you want to swap good for bad you may end up with only 1,5m in SA and +45m additional in Zim - bring it on - LOL

  • Colbert Muthivhi - 2011-08-02 09:36

    It depends on what context are you looking at this situation in the countery. I just nee to ask a question, If the situation in Zim is reversed and South Africa is like Zim and ZIM is top. Do you guyz telling me that you won't go to the neighbouring country especially ZIm?

      Colbert Muthivhi - 2011-08-02 11:17

      thanks for those who understand what our fellow zims are going through and bad for those who think zims are taking you jobs, and litering your cities

      Martin - 2011-08-02 12:07

      This stuff up was directly and indirectly caused by the South African government. By means of 'quiet diplomacy', they assisted Mugabe in trashing his country. On top of that there were no border controls at the expense of jobs for our own people. Brilliant - very clever - what now !!

  • Sue - 2011-08-02 09:38

    Zimbabweans had to go into home affairs to sign a document that they held illegal I.D.'s and that the SA Government forgave them for their sinful ways!!!! What a laugh, I wouldn't be surprised if the document (amnesty confirmation form) is a document stating that SA can send them home whenever they felt it necessary to do so. What a waste of time and money....

      Liberal Girl - 2011-08-02 09:52

      definitely Sue-Home Affairs can barely stop corruption and barely tend to South Africans needs how do they expect to pull this off?

  • SirMark - 2011-08-02 09:42

    WHY NOT ?

      O-Kay - 2011-08-02 12:24

      I sense another uprising of South Africans, and a lot of the Zimbabweans are going to get hurt again. The locals are becoming unhappy! Ask them a few questions and you'll be surprised how resentful they are of Zimbabweans and Mozambicans specifically!

  • Daemos1 - 2011-08-02 09:51

    why not deport them all get lazy south africans working instead of blaming foreignors for stealing jobs THEY DIDN'T WANT IN THE FIRST PLACE. sies, what a rotten state of affairs

      chi chi - 2011-08-02 10:37

      Garry, how can u call a human been RUBBISH? are u trying to say that God create RUBBISH? sometimes when i read the comments our Africa brother write here i become fed with some people who think they are OK with everything in the world, Garry is just seating on a free computer, i don't even know if he has a job because a Zim can not stop you from working, this guys will go to China mall and buy things to sale on the street to make a leaving, but you cant not see a South Africa Citizen doing that, if you check most of the farm is guys from Zim, how many our South Africa brother is there? they all want the job to fall from heaven and that is not possible. we cry we don't have job, but is we manage to get one we will go and open all the hole account in the work to buy credit that is even more-than our salary at the end of the day we will start to calling our governments, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION(HOW WHITE PEOPLE HE WE SEE ON THE ROAD EVERYDAY DOING BLOCKING STREET ASKING FOR GOVERNMENTS FOR SALARY? let us be honest, WE BLACK HAVE A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE WE NEVER BE OK WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN LIFE,

  • cgtours - 2011-08-02 10:02

    Hilary Ojukwe, With a name like that you are not South African! When are you leaving? Why are you not in your own Country ? Get out man- go back to where your roots are and where you belong!

      chi chi - 2011-08-02 11:35

      cgtours, are u sure u are from SOUTH AFRICA? ask ur brothers where u come from because maybe they lift u and run away

      safferoverseas - 2011-08-02 13:25

      does that mean i have to leave angland to come back to south africa? as far as i am aware, the black people don't wan't me back and even if they did, i would not be able to get a job because of affirmative action. with all the corruption, murders, robberies, rapes and anti white sentiment, why on earth would i want to go back?

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-02 14:06

      safferoverseas, You are misinformed about your country. corruption, murders, robberies, rapes and anti black sentiment exist in your "angland". In South Africa, white people are still in charge. We are only asking them to share with other people and stop spreading hatred.

  • Gargmel - 2011-08-02 10:35

    A lot of South Africans (ANCYL) seem to think Zim is a good place, send them instead, most of the zim refugees we have here are quite hardworking.

      AjaxFiko - 2011-08-04 08:53

      Every illegal immigrant is hardworking, they have no choice remember?? And you're just happy to pay them below minimum wage and exploit them, truth be told, the majority that are NOT for deportation are happy to have additional slaves they could overwork and underpay. Typical. Deport these ILLEGAL ALIENS!

  • chi chi - 2011-08-02 10:35

    Garry, how can u call a human been RUBBISH? are u trying to say that God create RUBBISH? sometimes when i read the comments our Africa brother write here i become fed with some people who think they are OK with everything in the world, Garry is just seating on a free computer, i don't even know if he has a job because a Zim can not stop you from working, this guys will go to China mall and buy things to sale on the street to make a leaving, but you cant not see a South Africa Citizen doing that, if you check most of the farm is guys from Zim, how many our South Africa brother is there? they all want the job to fall from heaven and that is not possible. we cry we don't have job, but is we manage to get one we will go and open all the hole account in the work to buy credit that is even more-than our salary at the end of the day we will start to calling our governments, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION(HOW WHITE PEOPLE HE WE SEE ON THE ROAD EVERYDAY DOING BLOCKING STREET ASKING FOR GOVERNMENTS FOR SALARY? let us be honest, WE BLACK HAVE A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE WE NEVER BE OK WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN LIFE,

      Colbert Muthivhi - 2011-08-02 11:45

      thank for putting some people i the position they deserve.

  • Thabani - 2011-08-02 10:56

    Zimbabweans are so educated that most of them can find something to do and feed their families. My fellow black South Africans are too lazy to think and work. They have that feeling of entitlement, even without putting a little energy. The issue is not about foreigners here because our government does not look after them. They make a living from their work. I used to employ my fellow SAs, but since most of them are lazy, I resorted to employing Zimbabweans. To be honest, my turnover has improved magnificently. Fortunately, for me, all my workers, who are Zimbabweans have permits. I have nothing to worry. SAs always complain, without finding a solution. I wonder if our local people can do something on their own to create employment. People, get education please. I know that our education is inferior as compared to that of Zimbabwe, but at least people must pass with distinction. We are just obsessed with race and foreigners, forgetting that we meed to blame ourselves first.

      chi chi - 2011-08-02 11:20

      Thabani, u are right our follow south Africans are lazy u will only find them in a club go to SOWETO u will find them in front of there houses drinking and mostly men waiting for there wives to come back from work and give them money the make. VERY SICK AND LAZY PEOPLE

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-02 11:31

      They are not lazy. Apartheid marginalized them and took everything from them. They were tortured, physically and psychologically, and denied access to the economy. Now, people who inherited wealth stolen from the black people want me to believe that black South Africans are lazy. They are not lazy. Most of these guys who benefited from ill-gotten wealth made under apartheid cannot survive under the conditions that those black South Africans live.

      safferoverseas - 2011-08-02 13:30

      hilary, crawl back under the turd from whence you came. black south africans in the main are lazy. i worked with many of them on building sites all over south africa. most were too stoned to do much work anyway. whenever they got a pay increase, they dropped a day every week for a few months. the thinking was that they survived on a lower salary working for 5 days, so they could afford to only work 4 days and come out with the same amount of money. now tell me thats not lazy.

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-02 13:42

      It's not laziness. I like to call it Apartheid Trauma, which came from many years of oppression, suppression, brutalization, subjugation, dehumanization. All these had traumatic effects. You have tried to address that?

      safferoverseas - 2011-08-02 13:51

      funny that, after ww2, the germans who were brutally terrorized and bombed to hell and back, got up and rebuilt their counrty to the powerhouse it is now. vietnam did the very same thing, those people were incredibly brutalized, yet they dusted themselves off and got on with nation building without having to resort to the tactics of the anc supporters and they all got involved. are you trying to claim they were not as traumatized as the blacks in south africa? you call it whatever you want, it boils down to laziness. it is a fact of life that black african men have sat around for centuries doing not much at all. the women work in the fields, cook ,clean house etc. and make beer for the men, the children tend the animals. the men sit and get drunk, smoke dope and cause trouble and fight with the neighbouring village. was, is and always will be like this unless someone lights a fire under their asses.

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-02 13:58

      The Germans would not have done it without the help they got from their former Western foes. Now, what help are those who benefited from apartheid giving to the blacks? Nothing much! What we have is a scenario where most people are clinging to their wealth. Perhaps, if those who benefited from apartheid should become more generous and open-minded, this thing we call laziness will become history.

      safferoverseas - 2011-08-02 20:06

      hilary, so the whites are clinging to their wealth, what do you have to say about the current government? they never had wealth until 17 years ago, and now they are among the richest people in this part of the world and that is purely down to corruption, those lazy swine have never done a decent or honest days work among them. i can see you are as set in your belief as i am. i however sit from a position of having worked with this lazy crowd, you sit in a position that no matter what the whiteman does, it will always be wrong. i am from rhodesia, tiny mining village near lions den. it used to be said, go to rhodesia and see the zimbabwe ruins, now you go to zimbabwe to see the ruins of rhodesia. if it wasn't for the foresight of white people, africa would still be running around in animal skins killing each other because they are from different villages. admittedly building the infrastructure was done with the sweat of black people, equally, you have to admit that very same infrastructure has been allowed to fall into ruins or destroyed by those supposedly emancipated black people. there is not a single country in africa from the north coast to the south coast, where the whites have been kicked out that is a fully functioning country, capable of not only feeding it's own, but of exporting, or capable of contributing in a meaningful manner to the rest of the world.

  • Dav - 2011-08-02 10:56

    Why not......... because every body concerned with the problem is either: to lazy.... to corrupt ...... or on strike.

  • Felix - 2011-08-02 12:04

    Wow this comment section got heavily moderated, haha seems news24 is way more concerned about xenophobia than genocide.

  • DABOSS247365 - 2011-08-02 12:04

    If you are here illegally, GET OUT!!! there were legal channels to get in. When I go to Zim, I dont jump the fence, I follow process. Secondly, GUESS WHAT??? We have our own people sufferring, we have our own social discontent. you have destroyed your nation, so now go back & fix what you broke, you spineless weasles. If you are so good, so hard working & so great, then why is it wherever you go, there is crime, wherever you live there is dirt & your nation is in a dam mess???? As for those saying they work hard, well, guess what, you have no idea what they get up to afer hours, & you are a big contributor to the discontent we have in our own nation. So next time, think about your nation before giving preference to a foreigner over your fellow countryman.

      Ganda - 2011-08-02 12:32

      im working for a big organisation and is employing Zims like hot buns because of our reputation.you guys are on the streets striking for free condoms and houses, whilst we building our own back home Poor SA.mind your business leave us alone

      tpmunyuki - 2011-08-02 12:52

      u have your own people suffering,educate them first,the problem with you south africans you hate education while you adore white collar jobs

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-02 13:18

      Ganda, I can tell you are not from Zimbabwe

      Ganda - 2011-08-02 15:26

      Hilary what Ganda means in your language?

  • iam.phonica - 2011-08-02 12:45

    The same thing happened in the UK, the Polish came and took all the jobs. Just like the first comment, Considering that they are often hard-working people and are a pleasure to employ. The chinese are doing them same. I saw Asian folk in Umtata the other day whilst driving through and black people were working for them. Thats the problem and the sooner the African population sees this the better. I also resent the use the term Black in reference to Africa. Time for people to grow up. You get a degree or an education and still call a population using a historical tag, "Blacks and Whites" - its not preschool with colouring books anymore. African's and Caucasians and so forth.

      O-Kay - 2011-08-02 13:10

      So what do I call myself??? I am a white African.... I am NOT happy that I can not use my country as my nationality, but if my skin was black then I could.

  • Emil Loffler - 2011-08-02 12:48

    To hilary ojukwu. blacks had no wealth for whites to steal, they were and will always be genetically incapable of creating wealth in the fair, intelligent and hard-working way the majority of whites do. They waited for whites to develop wealth and infrasructure here and are now taking it criminally via their one man one vote system.

      Pete OJ - 2011-08-02 13:36

      I have contact with many South Africans, hardworking and honest creating opportunity for themselves and their families. They are contributors. They are not stuck in whites came from Europe or South African blacks come from North Africa. They just knuckle down and make a positve difference. AND yes many of these are black but mostly they are South Africans with a passion for the country. (AND no Malema is not one of them) I just wish more Blacks[sic] will get off their backsides and start working instead of wishing!! Just as I wish the white counterparts will get on with the future and stop their nonsense about the old SA. It is also wishfull thinking. I think there are enough soberminded South Africans with balanced outlooks that will and can make a difference in this beautiful country.

      oscar.manamela - 2011-08-02 14:16

      Whites came here withh bags and what not , they did not bring with all the resources you find in Mzanzi, Yes one man one vote worked so that a racist man like you could never lead this conuntry

  • tpmunyuki - 2011-08-02 12:49

    this is political propaganda,they are a lot of people who submitted their applications on 31 December,they did vist home affairs with their passports as from JUNE till the present ,they get a nice response (we will sms you ).

  • oscar.manamela - 2011-08-02 14:14

    Like any other contry in the world the foreign nationals need to be regulated, it is very unfortunate that Zims had to go what they did in Zim, but there are laws and they need to be obeyed, People think that when South Africans were in places of refuge in other countries were on a holiday, they were regulated and were allowed to move arround certain parameters, what we see here in Mzanzi is caos and not created by Zims but our own government, They had relaxed laws with regards to who enters the copuntry and how

  • Virginia - 2011-08-02 14:39

    Why dont Home affairs just make a swop every year so that we will always have some hardworking people in this country. The zimbabweans are most welcome, if they have work, not to walk around the street and do crime.

      Ganda - 2011-08-02 15:24

      TOBBACCO who told you all the ppl loitering are zims / foreigners?Chinese are investing big time in this COUNTRY.wish Malema brings this country down.We will go back home and enjoy our Assets and you will the harder way.

  • Ruan - 2011-08-02 15:24

    ....get rid of ALL zim's, nigerians, congolese etc.....and you'll get rid of A LOT of crime as well- the majority of them are scammers....from bogus asylum-seekers....involved in drug-dealing....welfare fraud...ATM fraud and so on.

      ellen.h.matendana - 2011-08-03 15:51

      Do not prejudice judge ye not for you nnot to be judged

  • AjaxFiko - 2011-08-04 08:48

    WHAT IS THE USE OF HAVING THEM DOCUMENTED IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DEPORT THE ILLEGAL ALIENS???

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