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Human Rights Day not only about Sharpeville - ANC

2012-03-20 22:25

Johannesburg - The ANC has sought to dispel the notion that Human Rights Day on Wednesday is mainly about commemorating the Sharpeville massacre.

"South Africans must accept that Sharpeville is a shared history," ANC spokesperson Keith Khoza said in Johannesburg on Tuesday.

"South Africans lost fellow South Africans."

Human Rights Day was previously known as Sharpeville Day to commemorate the shooting of 69 black protesters by the police in 1960.

Khoza said Human Rights Day was a national day commemorated across the country.

"It is a lesson to all South Africans that what happened [in Sharpeville] should not happen today."

Protests

Asked about the protests in Sharpeville because the main Human Rights Day celebrations were being held in Soweto, he said service delivery protests had become a common feature in South Africa.

Residents of Sharpeville, in southern Gauteng, burnt tyres and marched on Tuesday.

"It [the public holiday] is over the Sharpeville massacre. The people from Sharpeville are striking because they don't understand why [the celebrations] are now in Kliptown," said Constable Tshishiwa Mitileni.

Mitileni said the police had blocked off the main roads into Sharpeville to stop the protesters from damaging property.

He said the crowd was not violent.

There were service delivery protests elsewhere in the country on Tuesday.

"We know people are impatient with the pace of service delivery but government is constrained," said Khoza.

One of the ANC's priorities at its last lekgotla was to release resources in order to improve services, he said.

"People must understand there may be delays, but the commitment was there."

Public representatives also needed to step in and engage with the people and acknowledge that they had been heard, Khoza said.

Comments
  • ronheidtmann - 2012-03-20 22:49

    Can anyone believe what the ANC has to say?

      Godfrey - 2012-03-20 23:01

      Of cause, its about my rights to report corruption and spend 25 years in jail for being stupid. LOL, Kliptown "won" the tender this year, next year will be KZN's turn.

  • marisa.cronje - 2012-03-20 23:04

    eh. if they were serious about their commitment to service delivery they wouldn't be stealing so much money from the public.

      Hugh_Influence - 2012-03-21 02:41

      The ANC are a business - the sooner people realise that the better.

      Kolobe - 2012-03-21 05:31

      how about we not protest but try these whites for killing our people cold blooded for evil reasons?

      Max - 2012-03-21 09:06

      @Kolobe, you are quick to generalise boytjie. With "these whites" you are hopefully referring to the then Security Police that did the shooting and not the general white population. Otherwise you are forcing us to do the same in terms of generalisation and accept that all blacks are as mentally retarded as you are, luckily we know that is not the case so just FO back to you garden job.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-03-21 09:21

      @ Hugh, If the ANC are a business...their customer service STINKS. They are voted by the people...their function is to service the people..NOT THEMSELVES.

      Hugo - 2012-03-21 09:25

      Max whites generalize ALL the time!

      Max - 2012-03-21 09:41

      @Hugo, you are entitled to your opinion but I can assure you that it is not the case. The point here is it was not the general white population that did the killing nor did they agree with it. If you ask an educated black person like yourself today if you agree with farm murders or police brutality towards any South African citizen, I bet that you will strongly disagree with it. But you are not in a position to do anything about it so I cannot blame you for it.

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-03-21 15:32

      kolobe i agree it was evil, but then lets try these "blacks" for the police murders only weeks before the sharpeville massacre, whom were black and white, begs the question ? are you from the stone age!

  • Blip - 2012-03-20 23:05

    Any reason for another riot --- just like Sharpeville in 1960.

      Hugh_Influence - 2012-03-21 02:39

      ...very different reasons, and you shouldn't belittle what happened in Sharpville - it was disgusting. One was fighting for freedom against a dictatorship, but this is the result of a failed reformed government. All of SA needs to wake up - as easy as it is to point fingers those can be directed at you - what are you doing to make SA better? Being good to your maid who cleans your undies or being involved in the community where she lives? There's a big difference in attitude, respect for others and it starts by putting yourself in their shoes and trying to view life through their eyes. It requires effort, which requires empathy, which requires passion which requires a good, strong heart.

      HenriLeRiche - 2012-03-21 04:06

      I quote Grant's comment below as he could not have said it better - Just afew facts about the Sharpville incident that people ignore : 69 people killed and the whole world was in an uproar. Compare this to the 20000 killed by Mugabe's forces in Matabeleland during the early 80s and there was hardly a wimper (Mugabe was later awarded a doctrate by the university of Edinburgh). Shortly before Shapville the police station at Cato Monor was overun by a mob. 4 white and 5 black policemen were butchered, their genitals stuffed in their mouths and their bodies dragged through the streets. How were the police at Sharpville to know they would not suffer a similar fate? The so called peacefull marchers pushed a section of the fence over before the police opened fire. It was therefore not a peacefull march. When are we going to have a public holiday to honour the thousands of farmers that have been murdered?

      Gerald - 2012-03-21 06:35

      @ henrilleriche And next you will be schooling us about ballistics and why the majority of the entrance wounds were on the backs of the murdered.

      MagdaKus - 2012-03-21 07:40

      @ Hugh_Influence- very well put. And whatever some today do wrong- does not excuse anyone for being insensitive in their comments about what happened in the past. I also agree that attrocities happened on both sides of "the struggle"- history is never clean cut between "good guys" and "bad guys".

      Jacqui - 2012-03-21 11:57

      Hugh, I have to ahave someone do my cleaning because of ill health. Believe me she is very well looked after and as far as the community, why I helped them to receive thousands of rand worth of aid from overseas. I have arranged sponsorship for the soup kitchen and I can go on and on. But why would I share all that with you?. After all whites are all terrible aren't they?.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-03-21 15:09

      @Hugh...There are many, many, white families who go out of their way to do good for the "DISADVANTAGED"...don't you even go there!!! if you have not noticed then you are blind...how can you not have noticed the way companies are sponsoring and helping black kids get into all kinds of sports, they supply the equipment and trained experts to teach them. There are many other fields that have opened their doors to help black youngsters(believe me,I approve of this), what I don't approve of is you trying to make us feel we need to prove we sorry for the past(don't forget we are not the generation that voted for apartheid).The question to ask though...is what are the black people doing for themselves...things have greatly improved for them to take opportunities and do as white people have done for centuries....WORK BLADDY HARD.

  • Jim - 2012-03-20 23:13

    Next election who do the protesters vote back in......viva ANC, ha ha ha what a sad fact. The electorate should not complain because they get the government that THEY VOTE FOR. It's just so simple...

      Prudence Pelembe - 2012-03-21 08:09

      As much as we know that the current gov does close to nothing for its people at least they we know for a fact that we will never be oppressed again. The scars are for life even though we have moved on from the past but we will Never ever again trust a white gov period. The fear of oppression and segregation is great than ANC stealling

      Prudence Pelembe - 2012-03-21 08:10

      The fear of the white gov being in power is Greater than having ANC robbing us on broad day light

      samantha.lister.09 - 2012-03-21 10:14

      @Prudence: I find that logic, to put it simply, ridiculous. Every other "white ruled" country in the world oppressed black people through slavery and even written law. They overcame this oppression and still have white rulers in an equal society. It should not be about the colour of the leader, but rather the qualities he/she possess and to be quite honest, the majority of the members in the ANC do not possess the right qualities. How can corruption resulting in obscene wealth and over-spending and a serious lack of service delivery be better than having a white face (just as an example) just because it is the "liberators" of this country? People need to stop voting with loyalty and use their heads! If voting a party with a white leader means improved service delivery, much less corruption and true equality then what is the problem with doing so? The logic behind voting ANC just for the sake of a black president and an ANC-dominated government goes straight over my head.

      Bambanani - 2012-03-21 12:36

      so you want them to vote for who,just say DA,and go to NYANGA,KHAYELISHA,and and all the blacks squatters in capetown and tell us what is the DA doing as far as service delivery is concerned,surely good service for the city capetown and we all know who stay there your uncle and grandfathers.

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-03-21 15:41

      prudence you are too young to comment on apartheid, mofo you aint got no scars only delusional response that you were brought up with... i think your anc has little time left!

  • Kmalebye - 2012-03-20 23:13

    JACKSON MTHEMBU REALLY MUST BE POWER DRUNK NOW TO PUT OUT SUCH A STATEMENT AND WHEN MALEMA SAID THE ANC LEADERSHIP HAS FORGOTTEN THE AFRICAN AGENDA WE SAY HE IS ILL DISPLINED AND ITS NOT THE FIRST HE SPEAKS IN THIS MANNER ALSO WHEN HE SAID COSATU IS OVER EXERGERATING THE AMOUNT OF POORVERTY IN THIS COUNTRY.

      Phillie - 2012-03-20 23:20

      What the F*** is EXERGERATING ??? Is it the same as cunnilingus?

      John - 2012-03-21 05:55

      No Phillie, it means have computer, don't know how to turn off caps lock, but am an expert at BS.

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-03-21 15:43

      i don't think he know what cunnilingus means either!

  • Themba Mbuyisa - 2012-03-20 23:18

    Still stealing from the other liberation movements i see. Vultures.

  • mikevj1 - 2012-03-20 23:21

    It cant only be about the ANC......Its more importantly about SA and the sun that shines on us all, or through us all, or maybe out of us all??? Go figure - it takes a bit of a bowl movement to get rid of it all!!! Let the sun shine ON Afrozaniacs.

  • sibonpot - 2012-03-20 23:35

    this is a serious issue, lets not make mockery of it - the goverment is undermining Vaal and they think life revolves around Soweto.

  • Chris - 2012-03-21 01:02

    So now we're arguing about whose massacre it really was, Sharpeville or Kliptown....any excuse to go on a rampage and burn something it seems. And to think that these people actually are allowed to vote...

      Hugo - 2012-03-21 09:32

      once again cretins farting on their computers,the thumbs up are telling of the mental state of commentators on this thread.When we say the ANC will rule until Our Lord Returns it is because of such callous and uncouth white south africans who really dont get the fact that apartheid was wrong and to hear such comments coming from whites makes it hard to entrust the country to a white-supported party.

      Bambanani - 2012-03-21 12:39

      @chris you wish we can reverse and go back to the 70s,and that wont happen,u racist.go to australia.

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-03-21 15:47

      hugo i spoke to YOUR lord and he said he will be in town next week, and please don't generalize white south africans it shows ignorance mo fu ck a!

  • Iggy - 2012-03-21 01:52

    once again the anc is trying to rewrite history,feeding us their propaganda.history tells us it was a pac led march. the name should have remained the same-sharpeville massacre,the next generation must know the truth.we cant keep sweeping the truth under the carpet. i guess history is written by the victors

      Hugo - 2012-03-21 09:33

      we know it was PAC march.This info is readily available anywhere.

      Phuti - 2012-03-21 10:14

      They changed the name to please white folks,ANC was made popular by big companies funding them because they were afraid Of PAC and AZAPO.

  • Chriskoi1 - 2012-03-21 02:26

    Wit Suid Afrikaaners ver loor hul lewens reg deur die jare nie net op sharpvile dag nie .Dit is verby en klaar sharpville dag sit nie kos in die kinders se maagies nie ,so hou op met die bymekaar kom en gaan werk liewer dan kan jy kos koop met die geld en jou kinders kan n' beter lewe hê

  • Grant - 2012-03-21 03:54

    Just afew facts about the Sharpville incident that people ignore : 69 people killed and the whole world was in an uproar. Compare this to the 20000 killed by Mugabe's forces in Matabeleland during the early 80s and there was hardly a wimper (Mugabe was later awarded a doctrate by the university of Edinburgh). Shortly before Shapville the police station at Cato Monor was overun by a mob. 4 white and 5 black policemen were butchered, their genitals stuffed in their mouths and their bodies dragged through the streets. How were the police at Sharpville to know they would not suffer a similar fate? The so called peacefull marchers pushed a section of the fence over before the police opened fire. It was therefore not a peacefull march. When are we going to have a public holiday to honour the thousands of farmers that have been murdered?

      HenriLeRiche - 2012-03-21 04:05

      You right Grant. However "human rights" has never been about equal human rights. People do not like to hear the truth. The truth will set you free. Nobody said the truth is nice, or won't shock you. Sadly people just want to hear what fits their perception and what makes their bubble stay full of air. I would post this under every reply here if i were you just to remind people the facts around sharpeville.

      John - 2012-03-21 06:10

      @Grant & Henri, It doesn't suit the cANCer agenda to be truthful regarding Sharpville. By inflaming the past it helps to cover up their failure to provide basic services and the sheep just follow. Why have a peaceful holiday when you can go out and burn something. The cANCer followers don't realize that at the end of today they still have F%$$^%&ck all and the so called leaders have mansions, six wives, blue light brigades and a song to incite hatred and keep them in power.

      bfvillet - 2012-03-21 06:33

      Sharpville was not the only atrocitie committed by the apartheid government,there were many all over the country over a very long period of time where woman and young children were viciously murdered by the apatheid state.The day is to celebrate not just the murdered in Sharpville but all those martyred in the struggle for those freedoms we enjoy today.I find it disturbing when apartheid apologists like grant and gavin try and argue that it was insignificant and disrespect those who have died in the struggle for our freedom, freedoms which they are also able to share in today.We have become so accustomed to bashing the government that we sometimes loose sight of what we have achieved under the leadership of the ANC.Rather than fighting today lets honour the memory of those who have sacrificed their lives for the rights we enjoy today

      Zion - 2012-03-21 06:57

      I believe the request for a public holiday for the murdered farmers is just as legitimate as the Sharpville massacre. According to reports 69 were killed at Sharpville but can somebody tell us how many farmers were murdered? I am not certain but the figure lies somewhere between 2000 and 3000.

      Thabo Mabotsa - 2012-03-21 08:22

      The zimbabwe issue has got nothing to do with sharpeville atrocities which the white minority regime committed ,all collaborators of the regime had to be killed because they were in concert with the regime which was butchering our people , the problem with your argument is that you are essentially saying that those lives lost were for nothing , well to me and other black people they were for something , white people tend to say forget the past and move on , well its easier said than done. Do you expect jews to forget the holocaust ? No I don't think so , as for farmers the killing are perpetrated by criminals , which is wrong there is no justification for it . The sooner white people accept that the distrust of them will continue as long as they post racist rants on sites such as these the better.

      Hugo - 2012-03-21 09:35

      Zion in that case we should have a holiday for all victims of crime,why should it be white farmers only?

      Jacqui - 2012-03-21 12:04

      Grant, thank you. History is history, no matter how many try and rewrite it every day. I bet you that those going on here about whites doing the killing never even knew there were also black policmean involved. Selective hypocrisy is a killer in this country.

      Trotse - 2012-03-21 12:06

      We all have something important in our history to look back on, anyone that says otherwise is really not worth the time or space in this world and karma will come to haunt them. As far as the One sided blacks who have no remorse or care for our past, Let me tell you, you are the disease that is plaguing South Africa. These Boere you care little for sat with you in the Concentration Camps during the war, fed you, clothed you, gave you jobs, brought education, healthcare and fought the same enemies. In return for this we have been murdered by Dingane, Denied the right to live, rejected peace treaties, caused a Drain on society and now spreading hatred and murdering us. Apartheid and the ANC are the same thing. They have destroyed young lives, the young Whites should never feel faulted for Apartheid as they are now under Apartheid themselves and had no hand in the previous system. All of this Talk of “giving back land” etc, why do the Zulus not give back the land they stole from over 50 tribes, murdering and raping thousands upon thousands of people and give back South Africa to the Sans??? Why is this wrong to say?, because they are black it’s okay? Think about that.

  • Dintle Sharon Khosi - 2012-03-21 04:09

    If this day is not entirely about Sharpeville like it is said why has it been celebrated there for the passed decades? Nobody had to answer or explain my latter question as the answer was pretty obvious... It is clear that Sharpeville and the Vaal as a whole are being undermined because their opinion was not considered,including that of the supposed 180 survivors-had they been informed and given a logical reason as to why things have suddenly changed I think their reaction would've somehow been civil-the residents' opinion should have mattered in the beginning not now after their retaliation because I personally think it's too late,the damage has been done...Those concerned in the decision making should just admit that they have 'accidentally' rewritten our books while trying to justify what they did because this is clearly not the history I for one know!

      Gail - 2012-03-21 12:34

      Hi Dintle, Hasn't Sharpeville Day traditionally been remembered on June 16th in the past. I am a bit confused about this perhaps? I also thought that Human Rights day was an International holiday and do not remember it being celebrated in March. I'm not sure I understand your last sentence clearly either. Are you saying that the ANC govt who made the decision to change the history books are wrong to have done so without consulting those whose families were directly affected by Sharpeville or are you referring to the former government which lead to the events of Sharpeville?

  • Mboneli - 2012-03-21 05:20

    Of cause,we need to look on broader pespective,most people were subjected by the brutal and oppression of apartheid regime just to change the South Africa people's lives not only for their families and i think we need honour them and their places of living *SHAPRVILLE AND OTHER PLACES*because of their sacrifice that they did.

      John - 2012-03-21 07:06

      If this is a day set out for honouring the victims of Sharpville who helped to bring down Apartheid, why hasn't their government come to the party and try to uplift their living conditions, instead they chose Kliptown knowing full well that the survivors would be upset. Then showerhead pours more petrol on the fire by planning to address the people in Kliptown on Wednesday. I think he knew there were going to be protests in Sharpville and that his entourage of blue lights would have problems negotiating the rocks and tyre carcasses in the road.

  • Alfred Maringa - 2012-03-21 05:46

    Happy Sharpville Day!

      Mosito - 2012-03-21 06:59

      The ANC wants to hijack every thing. Shapville day shuold be commemorated in Sharpville, not anaywhere else.

  • Daniel - 2012-03-21 05:55

    The Sharpeville Massacre did not happen on 10 December.

      John - 2012-03-21 06:28

      We all know that! Are you Rip van Winkle? From another solar system maybe?

      Daniel - 2012-03-21 06:47

      Human rights day is on 10 December and has been since 1950. I do not understand the connection between human rights day and the Sharpeville massacre, I do however understand that march 21 is the day for the elimination of racial prejudice, and was instituted to commemorate the Sharpeville massacre. Please explain why every year the president needs to point out that human rights day is not all about Sharpeville when it has nothing to do with Sharpeville in the first place.

      John - 2012-03-21 07:28

      OK Daniel, I understand where you are coming from, however the official HR Day is today. There is no 10 Dec Human Rights day. Nelson Mandela had all significant public holidays names changed to be more meaningful to all SA citizens. Commemorating today as Sharpville Day is wrong there is no SD on the SA calender. The cANCer sheep use it to cause upheaval because burning things is far better than braaing with a couple of frosties.

      Daniel - 2012-03-21 08:12

      http://www.un.org/en/events/humanrightsday/2011/ note 10 Dec. date on above link. Having HR day on 21 march makes no sense to me, it would be like having a day celebrating nuclear power on 6 or 9 August, or China celebrating Human rights on 4 June.

      phathuchicos - 2012-03-21 08:14

      are you lost in the time warp maybe...

      John - 2012-03-21 08:53

      The link you gave us is for the international HR day, which was instigated by the United Nations to honour the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights". If anybody is wrong here it is Nelson Mandela for not remembering that the United Nations use the same day, while he was busy changing public holiday names. See here: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

      Gail - 2012-03-21 12:40

      Human Rights Day and the Commemoration of those who died at Sharpeville on June 16 1976 are two separate holidays.I do not recall there being a holiday in March before this year regardless of what politicians are saying about it this year.

  • Fana - 2012-03-21 06:18

    ANC sometimes is failing the people.The intelligence people of the State should have known that something like this is gonna happen.People on the ground are dissatisfied with everything that the ANC failed to do.Right now the business out there in Sharpville is affected big time.

  • Bobby Tlhabanelo - 2012-03-21 06:48

    Y do dey insults

  • Attie - 2012-03-21 06:54

    it is about time people in this country stop living in the past. this what still causes all the hatred in this country between black and white. the blacks think they are the only once that where treated badly. look at the history in his country and think again. how many white people woman and children where killed in concentration camps during the boer war. we don't still today hold this against the british or have a day to comemarate there deaths. the blacks must get real and look at the future and forget about the past

      march54 - 2012-03-21 07:26

      Correction it was the Anglo-Boer War. Human rights are not just about the wrongful murder of people but about the celebration of the Rights that are included in the Country's constitution. These Rights are for ALL the people of South Africa.

      Thulani Zondi - 2012-03-21 08:14

      Attie as far as I understand and remember the afrikaners do commemorate the victims of the anglo boer war. They still commemorate the day of the vow in december 16 . We cannot erase history just because we are not comfortable. It is not possible. We can only take stock and learn from our history

      Luvo - 2012-03-21 08:26

      Attie - Please eat your scones with your tea and play with the cat and while you're at it, please switch off your computer. You obviously know nothing about this topic poppetjie !!!

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-03-21 08:49

      @ Attie, march45 and Thulani, thanks for your posts! It's through meaningful dialogue that we find common ground, we South Africans, ALL of us, can realize we learn from our history and MUST take the positives forward and leave the negatives behind. IF we can start working together, we can remind the Government that it is held accountable for the responibility of running the country in a manner that enables ALL ALL SOUTH AFRICANS the basic HUMAN RIGHTS, to live, to be a citizen, to vote, to education, to employment, to buy and own property, to health care, to safety from crime and violence, to PEACEFUL PROTEST etc. etc

      Daniel - 2012-03-21 09:08

      @Thulani Day of the vow had absolutely nothing to do with the second Anglo Boer War, but everything to do with blood river.

      John - 2012-03-21 09:14

      @Thulani Zondi, you are wrong, the Day Of The Vow was honoured by the Voortrekkers after the Battle of Blood River, 16 December 1838. Before the battle took place and because the Voortrekkers were so badly outnumbered 470 - 3000, they vowed that if God spared them they would keep that day as a Holy Sabbath. The Anglo - Boer war was 1879, 41 years later. The plaque is still there to this day. "Geloftedag" in Afrikaans. For many years in SA we called it Dingaans Day and it was an official public holiday.

      John - 2012-03-21 09:39

      It can only be Zombie giving me a thumbs down here, he want's to put a rubber stamp on his ignorance. In the interest of your education go here and learn, Zombie...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Vow

      bluzulu - 2012-03-21 16:20

      Boer war, Is this the war where two European colonist groups were fighting over the Third parties( Actual people of the land )land. Whomever died in this war was due to the greed of the two colonist monarchies,

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2012-03-21 07:08

    It is also about millions who are living in dire poverty meanwhile corrupt and unscrupulous few pocket millions.

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-03-21 07:10

    instead of teaching young children what human rights is the ruling party keep on digging up the past,we know what happened than was a traversty of justice but please prepaqre our future leaders not to go down that same path.please stop making some of us feel like intruders in our own country, a lot of people that did that in the past is either dead or so sorry that they did it ,that its not worth reminding us every year ,change the concept to teaching human rights on that day as well as everyday after that.in America when you become a citizen you are a American not a black, Asian or a Korean citizen but a citizen ,thats why when Americans speak about their country you can hear and see the pride in their whole demeanor they all work together for the greater good , only in SA are you branded and placed in differant race groups and made to understand that you are either a thief or too inferior to be walking this earth , and to think that in the past it was done by white to blacks and today its done by blacks on blacks.and to think me as a blacks feel like this after 18 years of so called democracy , in SA today if you not the correct shade of black you are out of luck i hope that something will happen in my lifetime to make me a proud South African but i will not hold my breath amen

      Thulani Zondi - 2012-03-21 08:06

      Raymond unfortunately we cannot erase history. Sharpville day will haunt the perpetrators of the evil deeds for many years to come. We can call it human right day or what ever but it will remain in history. Imagine americans told to forget about the pain of sept 11. It is not possible. It can never happen.

      Silvana - 2012-03-21 10:08

      @Raymond Correction buddy. In America the "blacks" call themselves African Americans and are proud of that name. But I do agree people born in America do not refer to themselves as Portuguese, English, German etc, which many of us here tend to do. This has a history which comes from way back and for a change has nothing to do with apartheid.

      Trotse - 2012-03-21 12:19

      History IS History and is in the past, Think about a real life event that many may be able to relate to.... You date a Hot Woman and she leaves you, you think about it all the time always reliving what you had and the pain she is causing you. Every day you relive the "past" and head into depression eventually your friends cannot help you, your job suffers and you get into a state of mind of unhappiness and pain. >>>>>>>>>>>> Strength of a Nation starts with the people, one person at a time helping one another to “get over the past” like the Boere did with the Brits built the nation and moved forward. My culture made the mistake of foreign influence that lead to the past government. We now need to acknowledge the past, put our heads up and fight against the sourness of individuals who love dragging South Africa down and creating a divide.

  • Obakeng MrTshiamo - 2012-03-21 07:18

    Jim and all the white people: The people shall govern. Unfortunately for you, the people in this country are black.

      march54 - 2012-03-21 07:50

      Your comment is what we, all the people of South Africa, are protected against by the Human Rights Act included and protected by the Constitution.

      MagdaKus - 2012-03-21 07:54

      @ Leonard Bloch- of itself I don't think Obakeng's statement above is necessarily racist (I have not noted his other comments). In a democracy majority rules, and a minority has a right to be heard. Statistically majority is black. ? If any of us have a problem with that- go somewhere where this does not apply. And crimes/hate crimes do not excuse any of us from being insensitive.

      Silvana - 2012-03-21 10:17

      @Obakeng. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to work that one out. I do not believe that the whites in this country want a white "government". All that people want is a government that is not corrupt, thieving and delivers the services that we pay for. Unfortunately, we only have 2 strong political contenders, 1 the ANC, the other a perceived white DA. The government fuels racism and illiteracy to suit their political agenda to stay in power and line their pockets. In my opinion, the ANC of today is not the ANC of Walther Sizulu and Nelson Mandela.

      Trotse - 2012-03-21 12:26

      You are One of the ones dragging this Country down, Thinking Black and White, Vote for someone based on colour.... One day when SA collapses because of people like you I am going to look you up and watch you suffer like those in Zimbabwe. Then when you ask for aid and help i will do everything in my power to make sure people like you recieve nothing from us "whites" your ANC buddies have cost the jobs of scores of people and turning this country into a spiraling disaster and you vote for them, I hope you get everything you deserve.

      phathuchicos - 2012-03-21 13:20

      @trotse...SA survived recession...its gonna happen in your parrallel universe...just take a look all those foreign investments flowing in the country...huh!!!!!

      Garth - 2012-03-21 14:09

      Obakeng - I have absolutely no problem with majority rule in a true democracy. I have absolutely no problem with that majority being black. I do however, absolutely, have a massive problem with that majority voting under the duress of ignorance, for a party as useless and worthless as the anc just because they are black.

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-03-21 07:20

    Why not put the past behind us....get on with the future....the past will always stir up negative emotions, that is a recipe for trouble...this issue of dealing in the past is what holds this country back..MOVE FORWARD to happier times please...it's hard enough trying to keep ahead with modern times..forget the PAST.

      Nyandeni Simphiwe - 2012-03-21 07:34

      Mam thats easy to say cause you weren't the victim...you lost nothing

      MagdaKus - 2012-03-21 07:57

      I agree with Nyandeni. Personally I have not suffered here. But as I explored history of my original homeland (Poland), where my family & others suffered oppression under the Nazis & the Communists- it brought home to me how many in SA feel.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-03-21 09:07

      @ Nyandeni, neither were you a victim...and I have ..so have you.. in affect, suffered from those days of the past, we cann't speak to each other because of the colour of our skin, without being over sensitive because of it. I am a proud South African, just as you are, but someone on here will say "YOU STOLE OUR LAND..YOU ARE A SETTLER" my reply... (because that hurts me)"YOU MUST MOVE BACK TO THE NORTH THEN WHERE YOU CAME FROM".So how do we learn to except ALL of us, that you have a right to be here just as much as i have a right to be here...when we conquer this issue were every S.A citizen feels they belong...we will be on the path to a better South Africa.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-21 12:12

      Nyandeni, neither were you a victim. You just choose to be one in your mind. I nearly got killed that day, do you think I feel like a victim?. No way. It made me stronger than ever before. A victim mentality will keep you chained for the rest of your life, break the shakles while you can.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-21 12:21

      MagdaKus. Oh yes Poland, now that is a model to follow. Before the war the people suffered under greedy landowners and antisemitism was the order of the day. Then came the Germans and atrocious things happened and the Jews were all deported and slaughtered. Then came communism and the most had no problems with that either. Really how could you feel something you haven't experienced?. You are a very sweet, gullible person from Poland and luckily never suffered anything. Excuse the likes of me who have spend most of my adult life in exile of not liking racists, no matter what their colour, and who despise a government stealing from the poor.

  • Garth Baldwin - 2012-03-21 07:37

    I love human Riots day! The smell of burning rubber, the beautiful black plumes of smoke! Its the stuff memories are made of!

      bluzulu - 2012-03-21 16:24

      Thank the Government of the day for your memories, Have a great Human rights day!!

  • Thulani Zondi - 2012-03-21 07:58

    Sharpville day must remain sharpville day. It must be commemorated in sharpville as a reminder of what apartheid government did to our people. Imagine september 11 commemoration day being changed to human right day. This is a day when we should observe with dignity and remind ourself about the past in order to have a good future. why are we trying to change history?

      Daniel - 2012-03-21 09:24

      Agreed, the Sharpeville massacre should be mourned and something similar to it ought to never happen again.

      John - 2012-03-21 09:33

      And you will remain a number as far as your beloved cANCer is concerned and you will remain without the services they promised you and you will remain uneducated if you can't look beyond your hatred. Now it's a lovely day here in Thailand, the land of smiles and I'm going to fire up my braai and have a few frosties and I won't be thinking of a bunch of PAC supporters who were looking for a fight in Sharpville, by their own admission. You forgot about that hey Zombie. You go out and burn something and make your statement, I'm counting on you, otherwise you aren't a true racialist.

  • phathuchicos - 2012-03-21 08:17

    Whatever hatred and vile you people post in here...I think this holiday means a lot than just a day off...when i look at the pics of sharpeville massacre with police beating women and children like they have no soul...a tear just fall...this day is special to me, someone paved the road to this new country with their blood.

      william - 2012-03-21 08:55

      what only one tear?? how old are you azanian?? you know nothing from nothing!!!!!

      Max - 2012-03-21 09:13

      To a certain extend I agree with you, but is the police not doing exactly the same today?

      Sanet Oelofse - 2012-03-21 11:45

      Andries Tatane... Need I say more? He was protesting against the wrong doings of his government.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-03-21 15:31

      @ The -Azanian,I to was shocked looking at those photos, celebrate it if you wish to live in the past....but what I find even more shocking is photos of our farmers killed in such gruesome ways. Sharpeville was but one day(it's still not good that it happened), but the farmers, that we rely on to feed our nation, have been killed for to long now, no one from the government even cares. I ask you, have you ever shed a tear for the loss of a farmer?.....ONE DAY you will when there are no educated farmers(who went to Agri College),left and there is no more food for your kids. See, always two sides...what's more important? you be the judge.

      bluzulu - 2012-03-21 16:27

      A day to celebrate the lives of our lost freedom fighters and the ultimate sacrifice that they gave for our FREEDOM today. Rest in peace the TRUE Saints of RSA

  • lwazi.somya - 2012-03-21 08:20

    It is ignorance and a lack of understanding of what happen during the times of apartheid that drives some of the comments made today. Even my 13 year old nephew could have made smarter comments about the current and past situation our fellow South Africans are faced with. So before you even comment, get your facts rightor you will end up looking like an ass

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-03-21 08:28

    Thalani i did not say forget what i said is teach the new generation not to do it in the future, if you do celebrate it include everybody and not just some people i know what its like to suffer under apartheid i di not hear about it from someone i was there been born in the sixties we born the brunt of it ,but i as a person decided not to dwell in the past please i implore you build the future and lets celebrate our heroes in a informative manner 9/11 was a horrific event nobody should forget it , but remember it in a good way without the hate that goes with it

  • Grant - 2012-03-21 08:58

    A copy of what I posted earlier : Just a few facts about the Sharpville incident that people ignore : 69 people killed and the whole world was in an uproar. Compare this to the 20000 killed by Mugabe's forces in Matabeleland during the early 80s and there was hardly a wimper (Mugabe was later awarded a doctrate by the university of Edinburgh). Shortly before Shapville the police station at Cato Monor was overun by a mob. 4 white and 5 black policemen were butchered, their genitals stuffed in their mouths and their bodies dragged through the streets. How were the police at Sharpville to know they would not suffer a similar fate? The so called peacefull marchers pushed a section of the fence over before the police opened fire. It was therefore not a peacefull march. When are we going to have a public holiday to honour the thousands of farmers that have been murdered?

  • Robi - 2012-03-21 09:04

    Is the ANC government leading with people or in front of the people. The ANC government must realizes that the gap between itself and the people is widening. Community should have been informed about change of plans as they were preparing for the celebration. The biggest loser is small businesses

      Jacqui - 2012-03-21 12:31

      Thiza, if your law come into being the first job vacancy excluding white candidates will be a crime. This white spend most of her life in exile, so watch with the scumbag references Your remark about affirmative action is idiotic, it was to give black people work if they could do it or not. Instead of giving them decent education and decent training they are shoved into work they can't do and haven't been trained to do. No one address that issue. Stop talking about the Europeans and their idiotic Human Rights Commission, do you honestly think that banning a nursery rhyme Bah Bah Black Sheep, from being sung by children of all colours adds one iota to human rights?. Give me a break.

  • Thiza - 2012-03-21 09:36

    Time has come that black people should tell white people that they are un appreciating of the reconciliation hand extended to them by black people.White racist have been insulting, denigrating, undermining the process of renewal. Every now and there have been attempts to revised history to white wash apartheid.....Apartheid was a crime against humanity and I propose that the government legislate and declare racism a crime and be punishable by prison sentence, not fine and reference to Human Rights Commission. In Europe any denial, defence or promotion of racism or fascism is a criminal offence and a public humiliation. Time has come that the government add history of apartheid and its effect into the educational system and that those who are oppose leave for Europe where they will learn exactly about the evils of fascism and racism. Some White South Africa are bunch of backward individual, who still believes in racial superiority...some such scumbags forgets that life was good in the past under apartheid but forget that to enjoy such a life, the majority of people had to suffer terrible injustices of dehumanisation, stripped naked their dignity, forced to live under sub human conditions, discriminated against and spoon fed inferiority educational system. Today apartheid apologist complaint of affarmative action.Such an oppositon, indicates a clear lack of knowledge that the process was meant to address the imbalances of the past evil system.

      bluzulu - 2012-03-21 09:41

      Well said, Instead of being apologetic about their forefathers actions , they have this oblique notion that Apartheid was morally acceptable. I think this speaks of the level of indoctrination within a sector of RSA public hence I posted that the Voortrekker monument should not have made a National heritage site at this time ....maybe in 2212 this issue may be looked at again.

      Rob - 2012-03-21 09:51

      The only hand I see extended is either for wanting something or the hand that stabs or pulls the trigger. We dont need to go back to Europe. Our ancestors built this country & it is as much ours as yours. The real scumbags are the ones that riot, destroy, murder, rape & steal & I dont see too many Whites doing that. Back in 1990, many whites accepted that things would change & that Black rule was imminent, there was no military coup by the army to cling to power, the country was simply handed over. It appears to me that it is Black people that do not want reconcilliation or to move forward & start contributing to the future prosperity of this country. Like many others you are stuck in a time wharp, because it suits you to continue to slander whites @ every opportunity, as you realise your government has failed you. Oh, & I think most whites are over being called racist for every comment & the guilt of the past is being eroded by the behaviour of members of the majority, these past twenty years or so.

      samantha.lister.09 - 2012-03-21 10:35

      "ime has come that the government add history of apartheid and its effect into the educational system " I just want to say that I matriculated in 2010 and the only South African history I learnt in school(history was one of my matric subjects) was from 1948 onwards, which is quite sad considering it is not the only parts of history in this country. If I were not the type to do my own reading on subjects, I would have no idea about what happened in SA pre1948 because it is not taught anymore. Of course, Apartheid must be taught but it does not mean the rest of SA's history should be disregarded. Just saying.

  • Thiza - 2012-03-21 09:51

    Its true that we cannot leave in the past but to forget the past its to deny the future...for everything that determines the future originates from experiances of the past whether evil or good. People who advocates the forget concept are the very people who points everything evil that besiege South Africa today as coming now without a foundation of the past. Yes corruption is evil and the ANC government has made mistakes but to attribute that corruption and all the evils originates today its a devoid of the truth. Look back and remember that Soweto and Alexandra and many other black township paid rent that was never meant to provide service delivery to them but white South Africa. Apartheid government spend corruptly for 20 years nearly 500 Billion from 1960 to 1990 trying to defend the defenceless system of apartheid. It fought wars that it all lost, spending a fortune that would otherwise be used to improve the lives of balck people. Today its suprising to hear many whites boosting that they never supported apartheid but in reality how many have return time and time again the vicious apartheid government to power through elections in order to feast their position of ill gotten wealth. Whites today suffer from amnesia when apartheid crimes are mentioned but fast to tell you of the current evils and short comings of this government.

  • dionne.barnard - 2012-03-21 10:02

    Tell me why they are protesting then, and in Sharpeville. I thought is was not about Sharpeville --- please comment

  • Thiza - 2012-03-21 10:04

    Human Rights day also extend to the white community who under apartheid had to be told where to stay, who to socialise with, what to say and what to wear and which church to worship in. Today white community should be proud living under a democratic system. Today they can travel the world without lying that they are Australians, German or Dutch. Today they carry their passport without hiding it and today when out of the country they condemn apartheid system. However when in front of black people defend the system and white wash it. Today South Africa white can write what they want and say without any fear. Remember as many today are enjoying your potjie, blacks have sacrifies their lives to have such a freedom.....VIVA HUMAN RIGHTS DAY and that those who sacrifies their lives for our freedom we shall forever remember and cherish you all.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-21 12:35

      Thiza, here I agree with you completley.

  • Mark - 2012-03-21 10:08

    Human Rights Day, a misnomer if ever I heard one. Many of us are working whilst most are resting and some are burning & looting, all to celebrate something that happens over 50 years ago which very few even remember. It's such that keeps the hatred in place, that keeps SAfricans divided and only a means to an end for the ANC. Too many holidays, too little work - that's SA's problem.

      march54 - 2012-03-21 11:10

      Some get a Public Holiday,today is my scheduled day off for the week BUT I am required to be on stand by for emergencies.

  • Leonard Loleka - 2012-03-21 11:18

    Yes, but there was no reason not to have human rights day on another day and leave this day alone (giving PAC the shine for organising this turning event) ANC is strategically trying to write other political parties out of history!!

  • Jacqui - 2012-03-21 11:36

    Oh dear, government is constrained. In the brain department. Oh yes and it is not only about Sharpeville, it is also about the farmers being murdered, the shopkeepers chased away or worse, heck it could even be about the raping and murdering going on daily.Let me stop, I am delirious.

  • Grant - 2012-03-21 12:38

    South African Human Rights Day has to be bigger than Sharpeville alone to retain its national significance and justify its status as a public holiday. Bigger than the PAC and even bigger the ANC - all instances of human rights atrocities in this country should be covered by it. But on 21 March of all days there is no venue other than Sharpeville that should be our "Ground-Zero".

  • Ntshuxeko - 2012-03-21 12:46

    human rights can never be celebrated as long as those in power continue to act as nothing was lost by the vast majority of black people at the hands of the settlers.no one can erase history that is written by the blood of our people. their long and bitter sacrifice will live with us for many decades.shame on the anc government which continue to confine our people into huge poverty through lack of enough job opportunities and high prising of electricity by eskom.since the fall of apartheid what freedom fighters preached is reconciliatory messages while not actively addressing the damage caused by apartheid.it is high time young people actively participate in politics in order for them to write a new chapter of their economic freedom in south africa.as long as blacks remain domestic workers while those of different colour remain employers our people will remain suffering from the laws of apartheid which divided us on the basis of colour.human rights is meaningless without a proper income.the years of toyi toying against aparthid is gone,people must learn to toyi toyi through a ballot paper.else these bunch of the so called madala politicians will continue and enrich themselves at the expense of the poor.

  • Bambanani - 2012-03-21 12:47

    Sharpville should be celebrated in sharpville no ather place,we all know its a sharpville day,human rights can be celebrated all over the country.the main celebration should be in sharpville,whoever in the anc or government came with this stupid decision is sick,next they will tell us to celebrate dead of hecterpeterson in seshigo polokwane,june 16 main celebaration must always be in soweto,and 21 march main event must always be in sharpville.

  • Gail - 2012-03-21 13:09

    Is it just possible that what the ANC is doing here on Human Rights Day is saying that all those of us who consider South Africa our home should celebrate the fact that we have Human Rights equally instead of mourning and looking behind us at Sharpeville or Day of the Vow? Are we not denying Kliptown the right to celebrate their past sacrifices and present achievements in terms of our Constitution when we claim that only Sharpeville suffered during the years of apartheid? Someone asked me recently when I flew out of SA to visit a son whether I was leaving because I was tired of Africa. I will never be tired of Africa, just as I will never believe that the majority in SA want the minorities dead or gone. There are corrupt and greedy people at the helm who are not fulfilling their promises and yes there are way too many living below the breadline whose bellies could and should be filled by the govt of today instead of them building a new elite as was done in Zim, however this is why SA is exciting and challenging and the only place I am glad to call home. We are a passionate nation of peoples all fighting for the survival of the fittest and most able even though we might disagree on who these people are. It is apathy which is the greatest curse of any nation and while we should celebrate human rights we should also reflect on why those who died for them did so and embrace as one our responsibility to ensure that the future is brighter and better for all.

  • Ali - 2012-03-21 14:14

    When the police get shot at today, they are urged to shoot back and afterwards congratulated on a good job. But when the police open fire on a crowed firing at them it's a tragedy? It is sad the lives lost yes, but what if the police didnt fire? Would we be remembering 50 police deaths today?

      Justin McBride - 2012-03-21 18:09

      If you read the police reports you will not that there were no shots fired on the police. That is in their report. Also, estblished fact is that most of the dead and injured was hit in the back (while running away) a lot of danger they were in.

      bluzulu - 2012-03-21 18:12

      @ Ali,Another uneducated indoctrinated comment,

  • Johnson - 2012-03-21 20:03

    Seems like the ANC has lost touch with the people, for years it was about sharpville now the ANC turns it's back on sharpville

  • IrvinIco - 2012-03-21 20:12

    Human Rights Day encampasses all Souht Africans who lost lives during apartheid.Its unfair for people of Sharpville to claim this day. According to their logic, there must be Mamelodi Day, Witbank Day, Durban Day, Boipatong Day, Bisho Day. Where are we going to find so many days to make them holidays. One day for all victims is enough.

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