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I would have fired Motshekga - FW

2012-07-26 12:10

Johannesburg - Former president FW de Klerk said on Wednesday he would have fired Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga if he had found wrongdoing on her part in the Limpopo textbook saga.

"If I was president, I would have asked the minister of education to fully investigate and brief me," he told reporters in Johannesburg.

"And if I had come to a conclusion that the minister of education... failed in a material way, yes, I would have fired her."

De Klerk said the failure to deliver textbooks was purely a management issue.

"The textbooks were printed... but not delivered. That is tremendously bad management."

ANC policy conference


De Klerk was speaking at a media briefing after a conference hosted by his foundation on Wednesday. The conference discussed the outcomes of the ANC's policy conference.

De Klerk said the spirit of inclusiveness and reconciliation embodied by former president Nelson Mandela was no longer prevalent in the country. He warned against the ruling party's national democratic revolution.

"The NDR as a concept is dangerous. A revolution against who? Who is the enemy?"

He said the ANC wanted to lead the country using policies which had failed elsewhere in the world.

Earlier, Irina Filatova, former head of African studies at Moscow State University, echoed De Klerk's view on the NDR.

"The ANC cannot implement this policy. But there will be one aspect it can do, and it can destroy this country. There could be partial land reform, partial nationalisation of mines."

Filatova said the ANC "obviously believes in this ideology" as it spoke of the unique nature of its developmental state. "I think that the ANC is a bit lost about the second stage of the revolution. In the 1980s it was so obvious what would happen."

She said the more the economy failed, the deeper the ANC was going to dig in its heels. "The more failure[s] there are, the more they will try to use various means, both constitutional and unconstitutional, to keep their following," Filatova said.

Leon Louw, executive director of the Free Market Foundation, warned that recent laws passed by the government made the South African economy less free.

Growth had been restricted by the National Credit Act, Consumer Protection Act, and exchange controls.

Louw said the country had changed the economic path it embarked on in 1994.

"Things changed after 2006 and the economy started becoming less free again. If your economy becomes more free you will grow, and if it becomes less free, you will stagnate and contract."

The economy was stagnating because of the government's interference in the labour market, making it expensive and difficult to employ people.

In his concluding remarks, De Klerk urged South Africans to be active and engage the ruling party on its policies, because they would shape the country's future.

Comments
  • Gordon20 - 2012-07-26 12:19

    *sits back to watch the racist comments*

      procold2 - 2012-07-26 12:24

      lets watch gordon, wait for poliodonky sure he will be the first.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-07-26 12:30

      FW you are a fine one to talk, from the good life overseas,the who sold SA down the river without a paddel

      ann.murray.9279 - 2012-07-26 13:27

      Bottom line - Angie should have copped it by now! Imagine blaming the fact that ordinary books were sent to a school for visually impaired pupils and then blaming it on a 'glitch in the system'. The only glitch in the system is called 'human error' and why people can't just admit their shortcomings is beyond me!!! Speculation is that a great majority of the 'system' is totally dysfunctional and should now be shafted and replaced by people who actually care and who would really appreciate being employed!

      Amanda - 2012-07-26 13:51

      FW is living the good life on his 30 pieces of silver. He lost the right to comment when he sold us out. FU.

      harold.parsons.37 - 2012-09-07 09:14

      @Victor Just to remind you there were more than 1million voters who voted yes in support of Mr DeKlerks decision so the real people who sold us down the river were those who did not support that democratic process. How was he supposed to know of the treatchery the ANC were planning. How come you did not warn us?

  • frank.vankaapstad - 2012-07-26 12:22

    The entire Government should be fired for mismanagement! The ANC is failing the nation, it's voters and especially the poor. And as the years drag on and the poor stay poor and unemployment rises they keep blaming apartheid and convince the masses that when the mines are nationalised and land is taken from white farmers things will change. WRONG. They will grab the mines, productivity will dive and income from mines will lessen. They will grab the land, put people on the land that have no idea how to farm, food shortages will ensue and SA will import food causing massive food price inflation. And once both these policies fail, the ANC will convince their voters of other stupid ways of blaming the whites for everything and come up with more ways of stealing money from people that actually worked for and earned their money in a country that already punishes white people for being white. This won't change unless the ANC radically changes the way it thinks.

      johnnydejongh - 2012-07-26 13:29

      Could not have said it any better! How long will the country sit back! How many times is a sufficient amount in bumping our heads over and over? Wake up people it’s time for change! Sure apartheid was more than wrong, but the issues we have now has got nothing to do with apartheid, it’s the lack of self-control and mismanagement of our ruling party. Can’t believe that some people are so stupid as to believe a single word in what they say. We all just out there, trying to make a living and its becoming harder and harder to do it in our country. It’s a vicious cycle. We lose the people who actually make a difference in the country to other 1st world countries and the more we lose the more they take farms and other hard worked earnings to make up for it, blaming it on apartheid! Just remember give a man a fish and he is full for a DAY, teach a man to fish and he is full for LIFE!!!

  • morama.sebata - 2012-07-26 12:24

    "Things changed after 2006 and the economy started becoming less free again. If your economy becomes more free you will grow, and if it becomes less free, you will stagnate and contract." That is where the problem is lying because the economy of this country is still inthe hands and benefiting the people like deklerk so ANC must really change that period!!!

      andrew.cooks.5 - 2012-07-26 13:02

      @ morama ... who do you think is going to benefit if all the white people have left South Africa, and the ANC have all those resources to themselves?? Not the poor I can assure you. They cannot even deliver school books to little children, how do you think they would distribute land and resources to people that they actually don't care about. Once you black folk realise that us white people can be South Africa’s biggest assets, the sooner poverty would become history. But instead you see white people as your enemy because of laws that people have made over 100 years back. Those people have either died of old age or have left the country after 1990 so don't blame me for their mistakes. But I'm going to tell you this; we won't leave without a fight. 400 years, 2 wars, and a deep culture of our people and language on this African soil would not easily disappear.

      leaproach.thekeeper - 2012-07-26 13:03

      MWhahahahahaha.....you're funny. Part time commedian I suppose? Hmmm?

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-07-26 13:17

      The economy is free dude. You are free to aquire any property you want, or any business you want, or you can even buy shares in a business. If you want to persue starting your own business you are free to do that to. You (as a group) are beneffitting from AA & BEE, so all the cards are stacked in your favour. Now this communist notion of confiscating from the white man shouldn't be necessary at all if you simply apply yourselves and put in the necessary work. As you do so the economy will grow, and everybody who is successfull will have a slice of the pie. That's how a free world economy work, and as far as I know SA is supposed to have a free economy and is a free country.

      dumine.jacobs - 2012-07-26 13:21

      The ANC can not change that, YOU can. The economy will benefit those who participate in it. If you want the spoils that come from it, you have to stop waiting for someone to hand it to you and go out there and become part of it. "But it's too difficult to get my foot in the door because the whites control everything" I hear you say. That is only as true as you are prepared to believe. It is that belief that is keeping you from succeeding. Nothing in this world is free and life rewards those who are proactive. That's something we "whities" learned a long time ago.

      morama.sebata - 2012-07-26 13:55

      @Dumine.jacobs,You never learnt neither started anything for you have inherited your grand parents stolen wealth.Like most of the DA trolls on this platform.There's a difference between starting and continuation!!!

      dirk.bigman - 2012-07-26 14:48

      The ANC have changed F^&k All in 18 years except enriching the elitist. You did have a basic education but you don't have it no more, You did have jobs but no more, You did get houses but no more, the railroads was still working but no more, The roads was mantained but no more, The municipalities delivered services but no more, The whites paid the taxes that allowed Government to deliver services AND YES THAT IS STILL HAPPENING TODAY. The only difference is that this taxes paid are either wasted, misappropriated, lost, stolen or just wasted. The majority of whites will VOTE FOR THE ANC ANYDAY if they showed leadership and a willingness to improve EVERY SOUTH AFRICAN'S LIFE. Unfortunately they do not have a leader anymore. The only real leader this country ever had INCLUDING APARTHEID YEARS has been Mandela. But as they say before you can go up you need to go to the bottom first. That is where this country is going. YOU will not have food, money, Electricity or anything else like in Zim, Sudan, Eritrea, Rwanda etc and once everything (Money, Resources, Farms etc) is gone you will look back and celebrate your freedom by having absolutely F^&k ALL left and your children will just suffer a 100X more than anybody suffered under apartheid. That is the ANC Leadership GAME - THE BLAME GAME. Change it to accept responsibility for the mistakes and this country will be saved.

      sharon.a.marks.9 - 2012-07-26 15:55

      morama,you must have studied economics at the university of limpopo with malema as your lecturer- any way millions of people have seen your post and now realise what retards the rest of south africa has to deal with

  • azande.futhi - 2012-07-26 12:29

    It looks like FW is trying his best to do corrections for his past mistakes. I do feel for him but my advice is that he must concentrate on enjoying his pension and probably use his foundation as a platform for "non profit initiatives" such as community development and childrens welfare rather than for political dialogue. The fact that we have a "seemingly" failing political system is a matter of "teething problem", we will get it right one day. Rome was never built in a year. Its more like really feeling the "apartheid pulse" by him. Poor old man PS: I forgive you for all your sins and those you still gonna commit.

      frank.vankaapstad - 2012-07-26 12:42

      Rome wasn't built in a year? How about 18 years? Is that not long enough to build a decent education and health care system? Actually South Africa had one, it is slowly being destroyed, not built. How long does the ANC need? Or should we keep having inept politicians running the country and stealing money while FW and other white people's foundations try to develop the communities with their non profit initiatives? A very foolish comment azande.

      Sagin - 2012-07-26 12:59

      Teething problems???? How blind are you?

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-26 13:07

      @ frank, 18 years compared to what? Many years of destruction by apartheid system? Here you need to understand that the damage caused by apartheid was not only physical, it was also mental. Black people were made to believe that the only way of surviving is through working for a white man. That indoctrination killed our people hence we have huge sums of unemployed people doing nothing, but only waiting for government to do something for them. Many programmes are in place to help entrepreneurs but people are not capitalising on them. These are the problems we are trying to unravel and root out from our society mindset. Its indeed, in my view, not something you can fix in 18 years. The minute you acknowledge the severity of the damage caused by apartheid, you appreciate the good things that have been done so far. Yes, a lot still need to be done and YES our leaders are failing us. @sagin, ANC has only 18 years experience in running a country. Quite frankly, you wouldn't expect experts from them especially taking over a country that has been severely damaged. in essence, taking over a country which you will have to overhaul literally everything.

      Sagin - 2012-07-26 13:12

      Azande You have propogandist eyes. What was not working when the anc took over? Do You know the difference between moving forwards and going backwards? You are simply making excuses for the anc's non delivery, stupid policies and general incompetence. Defend all you like. the facts speak for themselves.

      andrew.cooks.5 - 2012-07-26 13:30

      @Azande, you sound like a well-educated person but your reasoning is a bit off. Go have a look around the world, and follow the footprints of your forefathers then you will see that the problem wasn't really apartheid, but the lack of Africans to build or sustain anything. One of those examples would be Harlem in the USA. Drugs, gangs, rape and Aids is everyday life in a once good facilitated area build by European immigrants and took over by African American’s that knew nothing of apartheid. Luckily for you times have changed for the better in SA, but still you Africans won't go forward because it’s easier to blame people you didn’t even know.

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-26 13:34

      @sagin, let me enlighten you there 1. We had to build a foundation, the justice system, so that the country goes forward smoothly. Hence we developed a lot of legislations and the constitution to suit democracy as opposed to suiting apartheid. 2. We built more than 3 million houses for black people. Previously, you would find 4 families cramped in a one four roomed house. one family per one room. the room is a bath room, bedroom, toilet at the same time for both parents and children. Human dignity was grossly undermined by this apartheid human settlement model. ANC made a huge difference in restoring the dignity black humans deserved in that aspect. 3. Since 1994 till 2006 just before the global economic meltdown, for the first time in the history of SA, the economy was on a steady growth. That brought huge business opportunities which resulted in a significant number of previously segregated black people participating in the main stream of the econmy. Today, you see many black businesses competing in the global market. For the first time you, we have a fully black Audit firm, Gobodo Ntsaluba Inc which which competese with the likes of PWC, Delloite etc. I can mention many many achievements of ANC. We black people have experienced a huge change and we are thankful to ANC for that. However, more indeed have to be done.

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-26 13:42

      @drewka, those factors you mentioned are on a secondary dimension on the causes of plight of the poor. Apartheid which was on the primary dimension is the main culprit to all our ills. Yes, its not something we cannot rectify and we are doing exactly what has to be done redress the situation.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-07-26 13:44

      azande, what you are obviously saying is that the majority of black people cannot think for themselves because they were made to believe they are supposed to work for a white man????? I have never heard it quite from this angle before. What with AA, BEE, BBBEE and black people are still not getting their share of participation in the economy? I am indian, and i personally grew up during the apartheid era, our parents had white bosses, but we nevertheless have been churning out professionals for over 4 generations in SA. We believed in the value of education, we pass these values down from generation to generation! This is where the mindset needs to change. You are just making stupid excuses for your government and the laziness of your people. With millions sitting unemployed, we import clothes from China, our manufacturing industry is at an all time low! Is this apartheid too? It boils right down to ability, and willingness. That is the biggest problem here in SA! From the politicians to the unemployed!!

      frank.vankaapstad - 2012-07-26 14:14

      Azande - you harp on about the "achievements" of the ANC, but sadly we have nothing to compare them to. Would the DA, if given 18 years in power, have achieved more? Perhaps. You keep saying more needs to be done and you are spot on. The sad reality is that the majority of this country will vote for the ANC irrespective of who the people are in that organisation. It doesn't matter how inept or corrupt the shepherd is, the blind sheep keep following. Until the sheep start thinking for themselves this cycle will continue. It would be fantastic if we could have another majority-Xhosa political party filled with the right kind of people to legitimately challenge the ANC. Cope was a bit of a joke, but at least it was an attempt. At some point there needs to be accountability in the political system and up to now there hasn't been any.

      andrew.cooks.5 - 2012-07-26 14:33

      @ Azande … The only thing you CANNOT change is history, but you can work hard so that your future looks brighter. But for the poor out there that have been demoralised by apartheid (as you put it) and live in a country that the opportunities are plentiful for almost 20 years now, but still not getting the basics of what the country has to offer like education, running water, electricity, housing etc. , then you should ask the question; can I really blame it on the past? Must I blame white people because they still contribute to the country in a hardworking honest manner, while they support charities, churches, schools that lend a helping hand to poor black people, farm efficiently so that the whole of SA can be fed, and while they do this their children are getting murdered, woman getting raped and elderly are getting beaten to death?? Or maybe because there is no room for uneducated, poor black people in the current ANC setup except at the voting pole?? Think it’s high time you black folk wake up and smell the coffee. Learn from history and don’t do something that you will regret in the furure.

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-26 14:58

      @tasmee, 1. Racial discrimination - caused the current gap between the rich and the poor hence you see in this country the minority (white) very rich and controlling the means of production. That is why we implemented AA and BEE as policy mechanisms to bridge that gap. 2. Indoctrination – we cannot run away from the fact that black people Bantu Education was designed to force them to professions such as teaching, policemen and nursing. Blacks were denied Entrepreneurial, engineering and other skills that are critical in running the country. Blacks were instilled, at early age, to respect white supremacy and to believe whites are the “gods” in this country. This mindset programming resulted, as designed, to “white dependence” to earn a living. 3.Incompetence – we also cannot deny that our current leadership leaves less to be desired in terms of how the manage state resources. Reports from institutions such as AG, PP and others are revealing that our government leadership is gravely incompetent. The problem there is that, politicians are running management roles which they clearly cannot run. 4. Corruption – this scourge is the killer of the progress in our country because it undermines every system in place which seeks to emancipate prosperity. This is worst killer currently which I believe, if we can rid it, everything else will fall in place. These are the main factors that have put our beautiful country in terrible condition.

      byron.matthews.562 - 2012-07-26 15:15

      I just remembered a story my father told me once of the first time he could afford second class tickets on the train, he decided to take his best friend with on this trip (who happened to be black - whoa big deal during that time I know) and when he boarded, his friend was stopped from joining him. Silly him, he forgot that he was not allowed to sit in second class. So, my father's excitement at having to travel with other coloureds, indians and some poorer whites (i know, even apartheid wasn't the silver bullet for the poorer whites) soon dwindled with that reality check and he decided to rather travel 3rd class with the poorer coloureds and blacks.

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-26 15:16

      @Drewka, we surely cannot blame the past while we have full control of what can make a better tomorrow. I’m simply saying, let’s be mindful of where we come from and what has put us where we are. This is only in a sense that we honestly cannot successfully go forward without knowing where we come from and I don’t understand why our white fellows feel grieved when we make reference to the past. The past is where we draw our energy to make the future bright and that is a simple fact. Another fallacy is that “there is no education system, no sanitation, no clean running water”, the ANC government electrified millions of houses its term, made access to clean water and sanitation to millions of households. The current education system is having its challenges, particularly administratively, but it is a fact that the education given to our children today is far more advanced than the education offered by apartheid government. It must not sound as if ANC has done nothing to revolutionize the worst conditions in black communities which were a product of apartheid. If you are factual and not playing double standards, you will agree that the ANC government has made huge strides to transform this country for better compared to where it was when it took over.

      thomas.dube.58 - 2012-07-26 17:00

      Azande, Apartheid denialism is very much alive and kicking in this forum. None of the people in this forum remember that there was a system deliberate designed to keep black people as the ertswhile father of apartheid Verwoerd described as "hewers of wood and drawers of water". The popular theory in this forum is that South Africa began in 1994 and that blacks who live in shanty towns of South Africa are there solely because they are lazy compared to their white counterparts. Of course you and I know the difference and has seen a qualitative difference in our lives since the ANC took over. We are not blinded by the weaknesses and problems of corruption besetting our government today, but at the same time we know that as blacks we are further ahead than we were before 94. The key question is, what are we going to do to help uplift our fellow black brothers and sisters from the gripping claws of poverty? This government through pressure from all of us must rise to the occasion and use the mandate given to them by the electorate, instead of lining their pockets and using government as their road to instant riches.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-07-26 17:05

      azande, why then are people not being empowered? Only a select few are benefitting while the majority still sit with the same mindset! I believe the time to make excuses are long gone, and action needs to be taken to educate, and empower. I believe that if the eduction system was foundationally strong from the time the ANC came into power, we should be churning out the second generation of young, well educated people. As the moment AA is being implemented incorrectly, and school leavers cannot even spell properly let alone comprehend basic mathematics, creating yet another generation of illiterate and unemployable youth. How does this look for future generations? Are you still going to sit back and blame apartheid for the inadequacies. As long as the mindset stays the same, nothing is going to change. Its time to not only realise where the inefficiencies are, but to do something about it.

      vivian.harris.73 - 2012-07-26 19:55

      Azande u can blame Apartheid all u want with a long list of valid points, but at the end of the day the black population have to blame themselves for where they are. Nelson Mandela and Co took that Bantu education and used it to educated themselves futher. Why couldn't the rest of them do the same? And how is it that an overwhelming majority of the country allow a minority group to impose such hardships on them? If 5 white guys walk into a club where there are 30 black guys and start a brawl, u telling me those white guys are gonna win? Blame ur ancestors for where u are today....

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-07-26 12:29

    and I would have ended apartheid earlier

      andrew.cooks.5 - 2012-07-26 13:34

      I agree, but the same can be said about the ANC regime.

      Nyiks11 - 2012-07-26 14:19

      De Klerk is right for the following reason and I quote Nelson Mandela , " even the head of an illegitimate, discredited, minority regime as his, has certain moral standards to uphold. He has no excuse, because he is a representative of adiscredited regime, not to uphold moral standards" .

      Nyiks11 - 2012-07-26 14:32

      and Madiba went on to say "I am prepared to work with him in spite of all his mistakes And I am prepared to make allowances because he is a product of apartheid "

      byron.matthews.562 - 2012-07-26 15:17

      lol as at 15:00 today - 26 people on news24 disagree with you about ending apartheid while a mere 5 agree with you. *holding thumbs*

  • Gavin - 2012-07-26 12:30

    if the ANC was the management of a large company, it would've gone into the $hitter years ago.

  • Sagin - 2012-07-26 12:34

    Mr De Klerk, could you not forsee this outcome when you led your people into the wilderness and abandoned them? Did You truely believe there would be a different outcome to the one we find ourselves in today? South africa is a shadow of the country you gave away, and yet it is still a far better place than it will be in the near future. You must know this?

      morama.sebata - 2012-07-26 14:22

      @Sagin.Verity.I don't believe you still believe Deklerk sold you out!!! Deklerk realised that S.A was in the verge of civil war so that's had been the motive to give away political power meanwhile withholding the economical?

      vivian.harris.73 - 2012-07-26 18:59

      We should have gone the civil war route rather....

  • snoopy.snoopaloop - 2012-07-26 12:37

    de Klerk, hou jou bek! Jy het ons uit verkoop, en dit is nou waarmee ons sit! 'n Land wat uit mekaar val, kinders en vroue wat op streepe verkrag word, boere wat vermoor word, en kos pryse wat net verhoog. Ons SAPS is in sy moer, net so ons hospitale en onderwys. So bly jy eerder net stil. Was dit nie jou vrou wat deur geloop deur Jou Broers nie? Ja, 04 Desember 2001.

      Sagin - 2012-07-26 12:55

      Eina! You tell him Snoopsy.

      frank.vankaapstad - 2012-07-26 13:03

      Snoopsy, jy kan tog nie glo dat apartheid nog kon voortbestaan deur die 90's nie, of selfs nou nog nie? Hulle sou apartheid in die 80's al beeindig het as dit nie vir die koue oorlog was en die feit dat die kommuniste elke Afrika regering Noord van ons infiltreer het nie. Toe die koue oorlog eindig was dit die regte tyd om die onderdrukking van die meerderheid te beindig. Die negatiewe gevolge soos die moorde en verkragting moet aan die swak leierskap van die ANC toegeskryf word, nie De Klerk nie. Myns insiens kan jy die skuld op Verwoerd en die ander idiote plaas wat aanvanklik met apartheid begin het. Dit moes nooit ooit gebeur het nie.

      thandazile.selana1 - 2012-07-26 16:38

      Sir cant u use a language that is recognise please

      marius.koen.16 - 2012-07-26 21:07

      Dit gaan nie oor Apartheid nie. Apartheid was verkeerd, klaar. Die probleem was by Codesa. Ons is ore aangesit en nou betaal ons die prys.

  • Badger - 2012-07-26 12:45

    I agree De Klerk. Lets bring back Apartheid, Oh sorry hang on. It never really ended did it ???? It's still here just in reverse. Silly Me.

      byron.matthews.562 - 2012-07-26 15:18

      where's your dompass?

  • crackerjay60 - 2012-07-26 13:19

    It suites the cANCer government to keep the populous uneducated ! Educated people cannot be fooled into believing the crap that spews from the mouths of politicians, so why would the ANC want to uplift people through education cause it does not suit their agenda!

  • Stephen Radebe - 2012-07-26 13:25

    The african national congress is sell south africa to the dust beem.

  • Stephen Radebe - 2012-07-26 13:25

    The african national congress is sell south africa to the dust beem.

      thandazile.selana1 - 2012-07-26 16:41

      and you are talking from the dustbin, but my man look around its only u & de klerk in there. So ur statemnet should read like: ANC sold me (u) & my (your) master de klerk to the dustbin

  • emmanuel.magoro.5 - 2012-07-26 14:00

    De Klerk has got a point

  • twellington3 - 2012-07-26 14:10

    Why does it have to be spelt out by someone who did not even consider education for black as a matter of state importance!! Zille or Holomisa could have said it not you apartheid bastard, you murdered blacks for trying to attain their freedom.

      vivian.harris.73 - 2012-07-26 19:05

      And what freedom has the ANC provided? Freedom from safety and security, freedom from education, freedom from basic human living conditions, freedom from decent free healthcare. They earn huge salaries for what? 18 yrs after De Klerk the people are worse off...

  • thandazile.selana1 - 2012-07-26 16:08

    Mnxm de klerk who, who is he exactly.

  • gladstone.dyonase - 2012-07-27 01:10

    Yhu, Nompandlana! If you would have fired Angie, you should have fired the whole cabinet of yours pre94. Don't you dare try and play a Saint here you bald, bas**d!

  • gloria.mathebula.9 - 2012-07-27 09:01

    What is FW still doing here, should he be in a grave somewhere? *Ghost from the past I tell u*

  • daniel.w.gie - 2012-09-03 13:54

    ok ....tell us where your money is invested ....Greece ?

  • anthony.kay.965 - 2012-09-07 08:16

    The problem with the anc is, it does not listen to reason. There is no way a modern government would go to the things of the past to find modern solutions. The leaders today seems they only care about themselves and plunder the country with stealing it blind. They get caught and nothing happens to them.They move them sideways. There are some big thieves in this country the newspapers are protecting out of fear, or other reasons, and they are about to be revealed. The banks are in their pockets and are keeping quite. You see, they are also thieves. When is the bubble going to burst? Shortly.

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-09-07 08:44

    Now we will also have to bail out our 10th province (Zimbabwe, wants a loan from us). I wander how that country failed. Used to be the bread basket of Africa. Now 1,6 million people are at risk of dying of hunger. Maybe something to do land grabbing, nationalisation of mines and businesses etc? Sounds familiar? Have fun ANC! (African Nicompoop Conglamorate)

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