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Intellectuals needed in SA, says Zuma

2012-05-24 22:33

Johannesburg - Intellectuals and academics have a role to play in the reconstruction and development of the country, President Jacob Zuma said on Thursday.

He was addressing a lecture in honour of ANC founder Pixley ka Isaka Seme at the University of Fort Hare in Alice, Eastern Cape.

"As we remember him [Seme], we invite intellectuals and academics in our country to play a constructive role in the reconstruction and development of our country," said Zuma.

"As we build our young nation, we need our intelligentsia to contribute to a public discourse on whether or not we are achieving the goals of building a non-racial, non-sexist South Africa."

Zuma said constructive appraisals and criticism, from an Afro-optimistic perspective, would be helpful in building South Africa and Africa.

Zuma said the ANC's existence was owed to Seme.

"He is the father of ANC unity and collaboration. He wanted to see unity beyond ethnicity and tribalism," he said.

"We owe the existence of the African National Congress to this great man, who made a notable contribution to the development of our consciousness and national spirit."

Seme would also be remembered for his interest in the arts, especially writing and the media, Zuma said.

Comments
  • Sylvester.Mohloli - 2012-05-24 22:41

    LOL, the irony of it all makes me wanna sleep!

      Partiboy - 2012-05-24 22:57

      Once again the race card is played...

      Al - 2012-05-24 23:07

      Maybe if the intellectuals weren't leaving in droves thanks to BEE and AA policies. The vast majority of people I know who want to have any career advancement are having to move oversees. I also met a really nice elderly black couple recently in London, who fled under apartheid, and returned to South Africa in 1994. However, they have returned back to the UK as the sheer incompetence and greed of the ANC government which they so vigorously fought and sacraficed for was becoming more and more apparent.

      Ken - 2012-05-24 23:10

      @Tottie-baby I F*****g love being white!!

      Tsotsi-Baby - 2012-05-24 23:14

      @kevinjanMay there's nothing wrong with being white and proud,I am Afrikaaaaaner and proud too

      john.dorian.1042 - 2012-05-25 00:21

      It's great to be white!

      Nicolaas - 2012-05-25 01:51

      @tsotsi, are you black

      Fussed - 2012-05-25 05:16

      Only 18years to late

      Fussed - 2012-05-25 06:16

      Who's a slow thinker now

      Denise - 2012-05-25 06:22

      yes u r right.. we need an Intellectual president aswell

      Werner - 2012-05-25 06:45

      The irony thing is we need Intellectuals (people with brains) in our government, but that seems to be strictly forbidden....

      dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-05-25 07:10

      @denise All we need is a leader who passed grade 10 !!!

      Rob - 2012-05-25 07:52

      Zoomer has chased most of the intellectuals away for F sakes!!

      carpejugulim - 2012-05-25 07:55

      Would that be an intellectual by current SA education standards or measured against the rest of the world's standards?

      Michael - 2012-05-25 08:03

      @Deeteem, Abram Lincoln did not have high school qualification; and Robert Mugabe has a doctoral degree. What is your point?

      justindeklerk - 2012-05-25 08:21

      What an unintellectual thing to be said by the leader of the most idiotic government in human history. Drop the racist policies imposed by the anc and the "intellectuals" would not have to emigrate to have a decent future and security for their families. But keep saying stupid things and making big (violent) issues over ridiculous topics like a humorous painting, some individuals creative imagination, and everybody with a functioning brain and a few bucks saved up will eventually depart this intellectually barren land, or be financially, politically or physically massacred by the brainwashed zombies who blindly follow their brainless leaders.

      Koos - 2012-05-25 08:22

      @michael.ntshabele: Didn't they revoke that doctoral? You comparing Abram Lincoln with Zuma? Whatever you are smoking I want some.

      Antebellum - 2012-05-25 08:44

      How funny is this. The only time people speak of "reconstruction and development" of a country is after a natural disaster or after a war that destroyed the infrastructure. So is he admitting that the ANC has destroyed the country?

      TSR01 - 2012-05-25 11:44

      'we invite intellectuals and academics in our country to play a constructive role in the reconstruction and development of our country," said Zuma.' Hold on a moment, while I ingest the context in which the notion of "reconstruction" in South Africa might be portrayed. I can contemplate off-hand the reason we would need such "reconstruction" in the first place, as well as the very real possibility of masked metaphors implying Black Empowerment (which is racist, because it unfairly discriminates against non-blacks on the basis of ethnicity; which is unconstitutional). The current ANC brought corruption, crime, racial division and poverty to South Africa as their "gift to the country", while all they have done is plunder, pillage, and perforate the infrastructure and funds of the country. Now with all the failing public services (no funding, because the ANC stole the money and/or gave illegal tenders to friends and family, who just kept the money), Zumatheshowerhead expects intellectuals and academics to "fix the problem" - but the problem is not the symptom (that being of failing infrastructure), the problem is the cause! The root of it all! THE ANC! THE ANC are what needs to be "reconstructed" - or better yet, DECONSTRUCTED. They are no longer a political party that can serve this country (have they even been trying?!?!). The ANC must go. Only then will ANYONE (intellectual, academic, or unemployed) be able to reconstruct and develop South Africa. VOTE FOR CHANGE.

      Jacques - 2012-05-25 11:49

      @Tsotsi baby- I'm white, therefore I spell correctly. (If I may twist the famous quote)

      Smell - 2012-06-15 23:15

      Tsotsi-baby is almost certainly White, and his Avatar picture is evidently how he likes to frame Afrikaners. He probably grew up in an environment not too far removed from trailerpark, and thus ended up being confused about mother tongue and class and how those subsets actually have no bearing on each other. One ride on the London subway should cure anyone with a delusion about English superiority. Unless that person of course has issues clouding healthy judgment. I have a feeling that the obese White Boy on the picture cannot speak Afrikaans. And to all contributors here suggesting White is somehow superior - you are unbearable idiots at the same level as Tsotsi-baby, and actually fit his picture.

      Sharon - 2012-06-17 19:38

      he will have to import them,most of those that were here have left

  • Partiboy - 2012-05-24 22:46

    I think we need more artists too...

      Partiboy - 2012-05-24 23:12

      The truth hurts hey. Atleast an artist does the job hes supposed to be doing, unlike some politicians out there.

      Nicolaas - 2012-05-25 01:52

      nope, more artists to paint idiots like you, tolli-baby!

  • authorized - 2012-05-24 22:47

    The only intelligentsia left in this country, are the poor few who can't afford to escape.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-25 00:27

      i have to admit, that i had to look up intelligentsia...well educated speach writer there mr president...maybe he could teach you some vocabulary and pronounciation...

      Koos - 2012-05-25 01:33

      He could teach us a lot more than that.

  • gee.raaf - 2012-05-24 22:48

    Intellectuals needed? Jip. Starting with you Zuma!

      Wwjdrevolution - 2012-05-25 08:36

      Cant agree more!

  • MaxsonN - 2012-05-24 22:48

    Yeah indeed, and you need to step down as a president because you are not one..

  • Steve - 2012-05-24 22:48

    "Intellectuals needed in SA" says Zuma.........I agree, let's start with you emigrating.

      gee.raaf - 2012-05-24 23:18

      Agree...I hear Antarctica is nice this time of year!

      margyhp - 2012-05-25 07:42

      And this is my country too. Slowly but surely ALL the intellectuals will leave thanks to the ANC, just like Zim

  • Sharon - 2012-05-24 22:56

    Is it my imagination, or it JZ doing some serious brown-nosing these days? First the unions, now intellectuals. Who is he going to invite next?

      antin.herinck - 2012-05-25 00:17

      Artist?

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-25 20:22

      Don't forget the Afrikaners too ...

  • ahenriquesfernandes - 2012-05-24 22:56

    Get rid of BEE that would be your first step

      antin.herinck - 2012-05-25 00:18

      Can't The entire ANC hierarchy would have to quit their jobs.

  • Ken - 2012-05-24 23:06

    So lets start with a president with at least a half a brain!

      derk.woldendorp - 2012-05-25 01:37

      Zoomhead went for a brain scan last week but they could not find his brain

      Bomb - 2012-05-25 07:06

      They did find it,....it was at he end of his "spear"!

  • cliff.slabbert - 2012-05-24 23:26

    You are clearly not one of them !

  • Brent - 2012-05-24 23:43

    The intellectuals with intelligence are leaving SA(a province of Zimbobwe),in droves

  • dave.prinsloo - 2012-05-24 23:48

    the intellectuals are needed as long as their opinions don't go against the uninformed opinions of the masses. Whatever dude

  • Johnny - 2012-05-24 23:56

    There are intellectuals, too bad some of them are not BEE correct and had to go look for a fair chance elsewhere.

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-05-25 00:07

    I watched Zuma try and punt his idealogical hogwash in the Eastern Cape, or should I say I tried to watch while he tried, but really even though I really tried to listen, to see, to understand, if there was anything that he said that made any sense at all, I could not. The guy has really lost it, the minute he mixed up his words on the written speech it became even worse, then he broke off from the speech after he really mixed up his words, there he stood for what seemed to be at least a minute, on live television closed the written speech and tried to make something up and then it really became ridiculous. I am convinced the audience was bused in, because they did not seem to be students of East London's Forte Hare and they seemed to be cheering on queue. As a matter of fact, I am under the impression that all over the country even though ANC members still cheer for their 'Leaders' I think that come 'Maunguang' there is going to be many ANC-Eletist who are going to be surprised by the blind-side. Just judging by the smooth calculated reactions of the people in the assembly's. Sometimes the master's can be so full of themselves that they can't see that the cheers are not for the master. Those that are noticing the small details will agree, that politics inside the ANC, their speeches their alliance meetings and conventions are not what they use to be, and that there is a huge part of the ANC electorate not happy with the status quo of their top leadership structure.

  • antin.herinck - 2012-05-25 00:07

    Blah blah blah. How about an intellectually competent president? Zoomer -go away, and especially avoid mention of the word "intellectual" -you being the antithesis of that and all....

  • john.dorian.1042 - 2012-05-25 00:26

    Homer (Zuma) Simpson NOT for president!

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-05-25 00:43

    I listen to th president evrytime he makes a speech and wht he says now is th truth. People out there are less informed and intellectuals are needed

      Sharon - 2012-06-17 19:42

      they are offering a degree to become an intellectual at the university of limpopo,malema is the lecturer

  • ioannouparis - 2012-05-25 01:11

    keep BEE and afirmative action and many more will be needed my friend.. not being racist but you chase the people away with brains. Why should they stay here when they can excel overseas. i mean look at eleon, he is on of the big boys for NASA and we chased him away. A home grown south african pretoria boy, gone because of BEE. Instead of learning from those people and implementing or learning and taking over, they take over without knowing how to turn the switch on... and zuma says, we need this skill and we need that skill... oh please shower spear man, all you are thinking about is which shabeen you have to go to find your next wife.

  • Denny - 2012-05-25 01:11

    Here is some reading for you, JZ. It is from an excellent black intellectual (Thomas Sowell). I'm sure you will enjoy it. Perhaps give him a state invitation? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-3_2_06_TS.html

  • Nicolaas - 2012-05-25 01:51

    now bloomer, will you do the honourable thing and vacate that office as you clearly state, intellects and academics is needed and you surely do not fall in any of these 2 categories. Letæs get the intellectuals into that office to make this country corrupt free and stamp out crime, up the education standards, scrap AA & BEE OR IS ZEE and create jobs for all!

  • Carlo Gieljoumie - 2012-05-25 02:49

    ANC moto use to be education before liberation but after liberation they made damn sure the education system collapse so Mr Zuma first let go of the Bantu education system and uplift our education system so we can have intellectuals

  • Nockx - 2012-05-25 05:05

    I'm here Pres Zuma to fill the space, just I'm not interested in politics...

  • Tommy - 2012-05-25 05:06

    Intellectuals are needed, as long as they are not white!

      louise.booysen.5 - 2012-05-25 06:43

      Wow what a Reverse of rasicim who give u the right to say no whites What's Wrong wth the Whites. Get some inlightng in ur EYes in stop looking pple thru ur Mind of Black

      Nompumelelo - 2012-05-25 07:53

      Not really! Check how many other non-White highly competent people are pushed away? It is scary but real.

  • Geert - 2012-05-25 05:25

    As white people we are excluded in South Africa to contribute.So another bunch of Cubans will be empoyed!

  • Heimirich van der Merwe - 2012-05-25 05:32

    Grade 12 KZN high schools students were recently invited by the KZN university to attend an orientation day, students from various schools attended, the students were told about the facility etc etc then given an opportunity to ask questions. One student asked what is the quota system, the reply was 2% white and increasing accordingly, another student asked we are the first of the new free children, why are we not granted entry based on merit, and when will the quota system fall away? Neither of these questions could be answered. Most children have feelings the last time I checked, can you imagine how the demoralized those children who are now disadvataged left the faculty? But our president states intellectuals are needed? Really?

  • braamc - 2012-05-25 05:34

    Just a pity you will never have any

  • Bruce - 2012-05-25 05:48

    Says a man who seems to be proud of not having an education!

  • hle.phewa - 2012-05-25 05:51

    It is sad how u whites suddenly feel sorry for yourselves, if intellectuals are needed who said it doesn't have to be white? Talk about pulling the racist card now whose being racist? Either u deal with the anc or leave the country simple!

      Garth - 2012-05-25 06:28

      @ hle.phewa: look around you.. The whites are leaving. They are getting better jobs and helping build other countries making them stronger. Africa is wallowing in the mud, demanding better roads (engineers) demanding better health care (doctors and nurses) demanding better education (teachers) but all the knowledge has leaked away.. Is it not more important to put development ahead of BEE? So I ask you.. Who is left in the mud?

      hle.phewa - 2012-05-25 07:41

      And I ask u how many african graduates do you see in varsities?if ur brothers and sisters don't approve of our president shame on you cz he aint going

      Koos - 2012-05-25 08:09

      And that is the truth hle.phewa. When I started my studies there where 55 people only 5 graduated. Of that 5 I’m the only idiot still in this country. If you can’t see the writing on the wall then no one can help you. I wish the government would grant a subsidy for especially white students to help them find a better future overseas. That way they get rid of the whites over time and you can have this country all to yourself.

      elize.vankerckhoven - 2012-05-25 09:18

      @hle.phewa, graduating at what level?? 30%?? Come on be real look at for instance the doctors today at state hospitals and the ones that graduated 30 years ago, these doctors from 30 years ago are in top positions and earning big bucks, and not because they are white but because the pass rate those years were so much higher!!

  • Kathleen - 2012-05-25 06:17

    Start by ensuring the phases in schools are right. Books on time, fully trained. committed teachers, decent school facilities. Then ensure the pass rates are 45%. Then allow entrance into universities on merit, based on top marks for matric. Then you might have some intellectuals.

  • Joseph - 2012-05-25 06:21

    Funny how many there are in the country but they are white and they do not vote anc

      Bomb - 2012-05-25 07:11

      I know a bunch of very clever and intellectual blacks as well,......and they too do not vote for the ANC. I wonder why?

      Nompumelelo - 2012-05-25 07:48

      Lots of Black ones but have been pushed out of the system, humiliated and made to doubt their capacity for what? Impartiality, insisting on quality service, speaking out against maladministration...

      elize.vankerckhoven - 2012-05-25 09:20

      @Bomb if they are that intellectual they won't be voting ANC much longer!

  • Jack - 2012-05-25 06:23

    Zuma, please go. We're begging you for the sake of our country,

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-25 06:23

    After the ANC has gone, this country will need some serious reconstruction and development.

  • velvybokov - 2012-05-25 06:29

    The problem is not that we need intellectuals in SA. The problem is that the ANC all think they're intellectuals. What we need is for people to stop being so arrogant and then hopefully when they stop talking about how they know what they doing and nobody else does, when they start listening to other ppls needs instead of their own greed... Then there might be hope for this country. We need humble leaders regardless of their level of intellect, not \I know what I'm doing\ kind of presidents.

  • Fairness - 2012-05-25 06:33

    Sies Mr. Zuma. Saying this is an acknowlegement that your failing. Fix the schools as your long term solution and fix the police as the short term solution. Educated humans tend to be less violent, what this means is your intelectuals are looking for jobs outside of your borders cause they more often then not end up on the wrong side of a gun. Sies to all those who assosiates intelectualism with colour, if you didn't know you do know now - its racist to orientate your self that way.

  • Jigant1c - 2012-05-25 06:52

    Would he know one if he saw one?

  • Eduard - 2012-05-25 06:54

    Let's start from the top. Resign and SA can replace JZ with someone that actually does something about issues in SA. JZ is the laziest president we had so far....does nothing about everything. Get a grip!!!

      Raymond - 2012-05-25 08:32

      The only thing that works is when he goes to the toilet.And that is an effort

  • bernard.ingram - 2012-05-25 06:58

    Then treat me equal, like you treat your comrades.

  • anthro45 - 2012-05-25 07:00

    First of all, this is an old nation that funtioned extremely well and that has been broken down to ruins in 18 years. Secondly, there is a very easy way to get intelectuals and academics back in the swing of things. Stop BEE now!!! How can this country be non-racial and non-sexist with BEE still functioning?? If you want to go beyond tribalism and ethnicity, then stop dancing around with your cowskin. What did this Seme contribute to the economy of SA? Being a lover of arts, he would have loved the painting of you.

      luvo.luvos - 2012-05-25 07:57

      Bozo, what made apartheid SA look as if it were functioning well was because it was catering for the minority who formed 10 percent of the population and the ANC has to cater for the entire population with depleted resources. Before you mouth-off next time, please do some research!!!

      miriam.dandrea.5 - 2012-06-16 08:42

      I vote ANC. Don't generalize. I have a right to criticize and a right to vote for the party I choose. I'm surprised at some of the comments here. We may not have a perfect government but we do have a Public Protector par excellence. Are our memories so short? I remember the horrors of apartheid and thank God that we are on the right track albeit with plenty of mistakes and corruption. Perfection is something we strive for while knowing that we are unlikely EVER to achieve it.

  • anthonie.vanbosch - 2012-05-25 07:09

    It is positive that South Africa still have proper school sports, unlike some first world countries where you need to enlist with a Sports Club and pay extra for being a member of that Club.

  • Mark - 2012-05-25 07:24

    Duh!

  • anthonie.vanbosch - 2012-05-25 07:27

    Affirmative Action (AA) is for building a non-racial and non-sexist South Africa. AA discriminates against certain people and Mr Zuma therefore did not say that we are building a non-discriminating society.

  • Mark - 2012-05-25 07:27

    The only thing that would be helpful in re-building SA now would be for you to take a long walk off a short plank. I'd love to know who writes your speeches because he's obviously better equipped than you to govern. And he probably catches less baggage.

      Mark - 2012-05-25 07:28

      Carries less baggage, but catches also works in this context....

      Raymond - 2012-05-25 08:28

      He just reads but does not understand what he is reading,Surely,after two days of preparation to read the script,he would understand but he keeps making a fool of himself.I wonder if he knows what the word Intellectuals means.A real blady clown and surrounded by clowns.They don't TALK to each other,they SHOUT at each other.Why are they such noisy people.Maybe the have a hearing problem.

  • anthonie.vanbosch - 2012-05-25 07:30

    A National Spirit can only be reach if there is not discrimination of whatever kind in a Country.

  • Koos - 2012-05-25 07:38

    You know, I’ve been involved in exporting a few bright “intellectuals to be”. This is what gets me right in the stomach. It’s amazing what this country throws away in the name of transformation. Just wish we had a lot more money to help the other young ones. The need for funds to export these young people is great. It is difficult, expensive and a slow process and the people wanting to leave are many but the sponsors are few. Whoever wrote you speech Mr. Prez is a hypocrite!

  • Lebogang - 2012-05-25 07:45

    Reading this comments clearly there is a fundamently need for intellectuals in this country. People cannot look past their dislike of the ANC and Pres Zuma and urgue intelligently. Hence opposition is falling to gain support is because they seldom come with their own policies all they do is critises the ANC government

      Louis - 2012-05-25 07:58

      After reading your comment I can understand why we need intellectuals in our country.

      Raymond - 2012-05-25 08:09

      You,like your president and millions others have and always will have a Township mentality and will always suffer with verbal diarrhoea.It is the state in which this crime infested country finds itself in.For one,has your government taken a grip on the spiralling crime and corruption.IF you are honest,answer the question open your eyes and wakeup.People don't critise for nothing.Admit you are an incompetent lot.

      dave.prinsloo - 2012-05-25 08:18

      Maybe you are the one who should learn to \urgue intelligently\, as you so eloquently put it.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-25 09:36

      The ANC attract criticism because they are ineffectual, greedy and selfish. They serve only themselves.

  • sango.jika - 2012-05-25 07:49

    you can start by recruiting members in you party who are more intelligent than recruiting loud mouth that don't have brains.

  • Ju-Chi Huang - 2012-05-25 07:55

    if we need intellectuals in the country, why is it that they cannot find jobs?

      Nompumelelo - 2012-05-25 08:01

      I am asking the same question Ju-Chi! Perhaps we need to be told where they should go.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-25 09:34

      Zumie just wants them here, because then he can point fingers at them and sat "so where does your education get you now?" look at me, I don't have an education and I'm the president!! Well I'm sorry mr Prez, but it really shows

  • Donald - 2012-05-25 07:56

    so your lawyers can brand people racist or is it elitist oh ah duh hmm dmmm wit sheep

  • Raymond - 2012-05-25 07:57

    I have Never heard of this person.'Non-racial South Africa...'When you discriminate against colour like AA EE BEE and the rest is'nt that racism? Where do these people with huge overdeveloped bald heads get this type mentality.Shame,they were not blessed with brains.This country is one big JOKE and the people believe in their incompetence.AA and EE is RACISM.Wake up Zoomer and understand what you are reading.Interlectuals you find in Paarliament and in Municipalities.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-25 09:32

      Raymond, an article was published recently in the Times of London entitled Kleptocracy. See if you can find it - it wraps this mess up really well.

  • Rishaal - 2012-05-25 07:57

    what a load of krap. my brother finished matric with 7 A's and couldnt get into med school here because of the quotas now he is studying meds abroad. do they expect him to return when qualified? rather be prepared to get medical treatment from people who just scraped thru school but wer of the acceptable race. WHAT A JOKE!

      Koos - 2012-05-25 08:14

      Agreed.