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Judge recommends that Cele be fired

2012-05-24 22:38

Pietermaritzburg - President Jacob Zuma should fire suspended national police commissioner Bheki Cele as he is unfit to hold office, according to Judge Jake Moloi.

This is the finding of the board of inquiry into two controversial police lease deals and whether Cele should be stripped of his post.

The recommendation is contained in a 113-page report submitted to Zuma on Sunday.

The presidency said on Thursday that Zuma was still consulting about the report and that talk of a successor was premature.

Cele's spokesperson, Vuyo Mkhize, told The Witness the suspended police chief would consider "all available avenues to challenge the validity of the report, including a review application to the High Court".

 - For full coverage of the report, log on to The Witness website

Comments
  • sphala - 2012-05-24 22:46

    Ke mathatha moo...shame Cele!

      Rabble-Rouser - 2012-05-24 22:52

      Another rotten police commisioner. ANC cronyism just keeps putting this deadwood in senior positions. Incompetent, inept and incapable of managing effectively.

      stuart.steedman - 2012-05-24 23:16

      Cele is the fruit from the poisoned tree

      wesley.nel.5 - 2012-05-25 05:11

      From the citzens: you crooks up there, we will root you out, no stone will be left unturn till we get you. We will through the full arm and every book in thenlaw at you. Watch out. (actually we should shoot to kill the crooks) O somebody must have said this somewher, cant remember

      dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-05-25 05:18

      Why not appoint a prisioner, he is already guilty !!

      Christelle - 2012-05-25 05:38

      Why should Zuma still be consulting on the report. The recommendation was not based on anything but fact. Or is this a matter again of Zuma worrying that his old buddy might bring some of his skeletons out the closet if it does not appear that he (Zuma) fought tooth and nail to keep him in. The ongoing soap opera called South African Politics. Better than Dallas, Falcon Crest, Dynasty and everything else thrown together.

      Squeegee - 2012-05-25 06:43

      Dear Mr President, fire your advisers. Don't you see how bad this series of blunders has made you look? Decisions concerning Mdluli and Cele leave you far more naked in the public's eye than a silly painting. We the public don't care what color the leadership of the police are, we care about how honest and capable they are.

      carpejugulim - 2012-05-25 07:06

      One waits with bated breath to see just how the prez is going to wriggle out of this one ... it's a bugger when you have to fire the man you personally chose and instated.

  • moeketsi.lebesa - 2012-05-24 22:47

    Are Mdluli's sins whiter than Cele's?

      Lionel - 2012-05-24 23:14

      hay maan, ar yu dof?

      placebo.effect - 2012-05-25 00:03

      Good question. Problem is how do u attack the man who holds everyone's dirty secrets. If there was ever immunity though fear it's him.

      Christelle - 2012-05-25 05:39

      Exactly Placebo! My sentiments too.

  • Sharon - 2012-05-24 22:48

    Step aside, Bheki, JZ has a new BFF - Richard Mdluli. The used condom club is growing in numbers by the day!

  • frans.vanderpoll - 2012-05-24 22:51

    Cele is suspended but he still has a 'spokesperson'? Slaan my dood met 'n pap snoek!!.

      John - 2012-05-25 05:09

      FFS Frans, it's unbelievable isn't it, suspended but still has a spokesperson and we are paying for it. ShowerDickhead and his cronies! Power to the DA

  • Msaka - 2012-05-24 22:54

    Oh! Is Cele still here?

      Sharon - 2012-05-24 22:57

      No, he's still getting paid, though.

  • Koos - 2012-05-24 23:05

    Let's see how long Spearman is going to take on this?

  • Ted - 2012-05-24 23:06

    Cele had the testicular fortitude to take on crime. Every man has his flaws, but I believe thieves and the usual black-is-magic-muti- and-crime brigade will be happy. At one point he gave a straight as ramrod execution order to shoot and kill. It was done and thieves were the saddest people south of the Sahara. He is one of the chaps you love and hate simultaneously. Goodbye, but no good riddance. Law is law, though unfortunate it is.

      Stirer - 2012-05-25 06:23

      Maybe a career policeman will take over, instead of "friend or family". Now we go through the "appeals" ritual before he gets promoted to become a South African ambassador in some exotic country as reward for his fight for freedom and against crime. What a continuous waste of taxpayers money.

      mthuthani - 2012-05-25 08:10

      Well said Ted, agree with you.

  • Nicholas - 2012-05-24 23:06

    What a jolly bunch we have running this country!

  • hunadimofele - 2012-05-24 23:06

    Zuma must just fire the bustard and get rid of all the virus in the police dep...unless he is the one spreading the desease

      Tebz001 - 2012-05-25 08:00

      ...with the spear

  • hunadimofele - 2012-05-24 23:06

    Zuma must just fire the bustard and get rid of all the virus in the police dep...unless he is the one spreading the desease

  • Bibi - 2012-05-24 23:07

    Bheki;the tribe has spoken!

  • gee.raaf - 2012-05-24 23:09

    This is going to take zuma forever to read a 113 page document...african time at its best!

  • ozzie.oz1 - 2012-05-24 23:11

    Do not pass go and do not collect a golden handshake! You are rotten to the core!

      Dries - 2012-05-25 05:55

      Who is not vrot?

  • Lionel - 2012-05-24 23:12

    second hand! he must also be stripped off this so-called status "GENERAL'. Oops!! Sory Boss for using 'your' pc for my comment.

      malusi.mtetwa - 2012-05-25 00:02

      What makes you better then him?

  • bhulangwe - 2012-05-24 23:18

    eish...Im sure criminals are jumping up and down after hearing those news. I heard few ATM blusted during his suspension already....@ least i was able to walk the street of dbn at night without any fear during his time @ the office. Arm robbery, house-breaks, and more are coming back to us again

  • neo.mokhonoane - 2012-05-24 23:22

    What will the Presidency say about this report?

  • mark.taitz.5 - 2012-05-24 23:44

    The programme Blue Bloods should be compulsory viewing for all SAPS members especially the National Commissioner. Perfect example of how a commissioner should behave.

  • Slick - 2012-05-24 23:54

    hahah Bheki..... your comrade Selebi tried to challenge justice and he ended up where???? Ohhhhh thats right...Jail for 15 years right? LOL you are just another delusional eejit dude. DEAL with it. Your Cell awaits you...LOL.... Whats so so wonderful about this ruling it is a NON white Judge calling for you to be fired and brought to Justice. So good bye race card, woot!! Judges etc appointed by Jacob Zuma....so now he will decide against their judgement huh??

  • hadren.green - 2012-05-25 00:20

    Cele did not deserve to be the Compl. How can he be apponinted with out out relevent police experience.eg Crime,police management etc. From bush to office it will not work. Appoint someone with police experience. He will understand better and perform as perPolice standards.

      Koos - 2012-05-25 01:27

      Since when has the government ever appointed anyone that has the relevant experience, apart from stealing and plunder.

  • Carlo Gieljoumie - 2012-05-25 02:40

    Suspension with pay or without ???? What friend will get his post

  • sibongile.baloyi1 - 2012-05-25 03:48

    Yes if he is guily why wait or keep him. why keep something that is destroying our nation. You dont have to think for your own stumuch but 4 evry1.

  • pule.moeketsi - 2012-05-25 04:50

    The President must appoint someone with proper police qualifications not political qualifications nd that who underwent police training because SAPS is not a political party!

      Kenny Bianco - 2012-05-25 05:13

      Only if constitution allowed

      Erina - 2012-05-25 07:00

      Wise words, Pule. One would think that if it's obvious to so many of us, it would be obvious to the man who is supposed to lead our country, not so. So, if he is still not doing it, what is his hidden motive? to use the police force for buddy business and not only to fight crime, surely? We the voters are the once who can make sure these things don't happen by voting for opposition parties. And once the opposition parties are in power and they start to show the same signs of corruption, we vote for the opposition again. Not good for any one party to stay in power for too long - not more than 2 terms. UNLESS, they actually show that they're serious about getting rid of crooked government ministers and officials.

  • Ian - 2012-05-25 05:06

    It must be someone with the last name Van de Merwe, Du Toit, Labuschagne or Naude. I can tell you he will be a perfect person. No one will google or trace his past because in the eyes of many he will be an automatic fit. If it is a black person (Naidoo or Mkhize) there will be noise.

  • Chris - 2012-05-25 05:26

    What was it that Cele did for the President that earned him this grab at the tax rand pot? More importantly can The President afford to let Cele go without a lifetime guaranteed income golden handshake. The Shaiky factor is once again evident.

  • Phuti - 2012-05-25 05:31

    How I wish Cele's name in the recommendation can be replaced with Mdluli!

  • Shades - 2012-05-25 05:43

    nog n skelm. From top to bottom...immoral thieves

  • Wanda - 2012-05-25 05:47

    Another used condom.

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-05-25 05:54

    Appoint someone who can make the police proud to wear their uniform .

      Vic - 2012-05-25 06:48

      Michael, I fully agree with you. Let a panel of experts select a replacement, and NOT Showerhead. His pals are falling one by one.

      Valecia - 2012-05-25 07:40

      Exactly! I totally agree on this statement and besides policeman today are also in it as well with bribery given to them so how on earth is this country going to get better when we have policemen instead of doing their job but also engaging in the criminal activities they not worthy of being placed and given the postion as being cops we need reliable and honest people that are willing to assist in making the country a better place.

  • Erna - 2012-05-25 05:55

    Now let's see if the president has got a pair! His own chosen commission of enquiry is telling him what all of us knew all along.

  • Bomb - 2012-05-25 05:58

    This government is slowly rotting from the inside,..........YIPIEEEEEEEE!!!

  • Hannes Truter - 2012-05-25 06:20

    'n Vis vrot van sy kop ondertoe of is dit 'n geval dat k*k afdraend loop.....

  • Bzeng - 2012-05-25 06:24

    Another misused good condom 'comminsionr'

  • Gavin - 2012-05-25 06:28

    now maybe his royal highness will put an honorable person in cele's place - instead of some dishonest sack of garbage.

  • andre.rabie3 - 2012-05-25 06:37

    BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      luckylwazi.malinga - 2012-05-25 06:46

      I agree wit u andre may the the crime could stop

  • Stuart - 2012-05-25 06:46

    Why do they all have spokesman? Can they not speak for themselves?

  • given.makhafola - 2012-05-25 06:52

    Seems like this all people are \numb\,why they all have spokesperson?...why don't they speak for themselves?

  • Sylvester.Mohloli - 2012-05-25 06:58

    so since he employed him, can he resign too? please just do one honourable thng and decline nomination for Mangaung, assemblief....k lemme wake up nw

  • anthro45 - 2012-05-25 07:09

    When are they going to start prosecuting these criminals???????

  • Valecia - 2012-05-25 07:12

    @andre.rabie3 I agree wid u on bringing back the death penalty cause government is really not doing anything to reduce crime in this country.why should they spare ones life.

  • Msika - 2012-05-25 07:19

    So, now it's gonna take another year for Pres Zuma to consult about the report while Gen Bheki Cele is on full pay. When Zuma expells/deploy him, he will challenge the verdict through the high court and that process will take another year. Wow!!

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-25 07:22

    I think if the SAPS wants to save money, then they chould change the blue uniforms to orange. this way when they are re-deployed to places like polsmoor there's no need for a new uniform... AS proven by the "lady" that was found screwing with an inmate, the SAPS is thouroughly F@cked....

  • brionyl.french - 2012-05-25 07:22

    WOOO HOOO!!! Any man on the street could have told ZUMA that!!!! Kick him out

  • Sam - 2012-05-25 07:24

    All the appointees of Zuma are corrupt,that mean he's corrupt too. Look back in 2007 his corruption case what does dat mean?

  • john.lonsdale.5 - 2012-05-25 07:27

    But why just fired surely if a recommendation to be fired was made, then criminal activity has taken place, why no recommendation for arrest and charges to be laid????

  • Sam - 2012-05-25 07:28

    All the appointees of Zuma are corrupt,that mean he's corrupt too. Look back in 2007 his corruption case what does dat mean? Those people are ex-convicts and nothing good about them.

  • Zahir - 2012-05-25 07:35

    Comrade cele will now get a promotion and increase from zooma standard anc protocol

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-25 07:42

    @ Dries, you are asking who's not vrot... Let's see I can think of Zille and the rest of the DA, people like George Fivaz who became commisioners after a lifetime of dedicated service in the police and went up the ranks based on merit and experience. 18 years after 94 I'm sure that there are such officers in the SAPS, but they are being kept down to make space for political appointments. The rot starts from the top down, and until the country is not headed by a bunch of corrupt thieves nothing will change. This bunch of corrupt thieves will never appoint a propper police officer to run the SPAS just as they will not apoint the likes of Vusi Pikoli to head the NPA. If they did that they's run the risk of going to jail.

  • xolile.hanse - 2012-05-25 08:05

    O.o

  • Jennifer - 2012-05-25 08:31

    It is Dynasty, Cele (as the story goes) was the name of Shakas only son... You can't fire Shakas sons sons son, He's like secret royalty.

  • basie.pretorius - 2012-05-25 08:41

    "The presidency said on Thursday that Zuma was still consulting about the report" Should'nt it be sulking