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Julius Malema's future uncertain

2012-02-29 14:49

Johannesburg - Views differed this week on what would happen to ANC Youth League president Julius Malema if his five-year suspension from the ANC was upheld, or turned into an expulsion.

Political analyst Steven Friedman said Malema's backers were likely to abandon him, but Cape Town University politics lecturer Zwelethu Jolobe disagreed.

"Senior business and political people who have thus far backed him politically are unlikely to continue to do so should his suspension be upheld since he is then no longer of any use to them," said Friedman.

Nationalisation

However, Jolobe believed Malema had substantial support from those people who believed the nationalisation of mines was important.

"As long as this is the main policy issue he’s going to punt, they will continue to support him. The position around nationalisation is his insurance policy, it guarantees him some level of support beyond the confines of the youth league," Jolobe said.

Malema, ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, his deputy Ronald Lamola, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, and two other officials were found guilty by the ANC's national disciplinary committee in November of bringing the ANC into disrepute and of sowing division in the party.

The ANC's appeals committee announced in February that attempts by Malema, Shivambu, Magaqa and three other ANCYL officials to have the guilty verdicts against them overturned had been dismissed.

The outcome of argument in mitigation and aggravation of their suspensions - ranging between 18 months and five years - was to be announced on Wednesday afternoon.

Jolobe said Malema had proved himself to be an effective "battering ram" and that his backers were likely to continue using him for this purpose.

He would, therefore, always retain a core level of support within the ANCYL and from those who wanted the nationalisation of mines.

Financial support

Friedman said Malema and the ANCYL had been strategically "pushed" into the position of spearheading the proposal for nationalisation by a faction in the ANC.

It was not clear what this faction would do about the financial support it had given him.

"Mr Malema is 30 years old, he has no post-graduate degrees at all and he’s reputed to have R53 million in his bank account. Well where does the R53m come from? It’s not coming from tenders; it is coming from the people who tell him to do this," said Friedman.

The ANCYL did not write the document on the nationalisation of mines, said Friedman.

"It’s a proposal which is coming from politically-connected business people who are in the industry."

Friedman said one of two things could happen to Malema.

The first was that Malema could stand up and point out those senior ANC members who had funded him.

Of course, those members could then turn around and say: "So what?", said Friedman.

The second scenario was that if he "goes into the night" they might continue to look after him financially, for the next couple of years, to ensure his silence.

"My sense is that if Malema is suspended they'll just move on," said Friedman.

Strong character

Jolobe said the politically-connected business people who thought the nationalisation of mines would benefit them would continue to support Malema whether publicly or discreetly.

The ANC had not come up with a solution to the policy issue of the nationalisation of mines or taken its position to the ANCYL, he said.

"This puts them [ANC] in a weak position to respond to the issues Malema is raising and so they have no ammunition to fight against him," he said.

Whether Malema was an ANCYL leader or not, he was still a strong character.

"In the end, even if he has to appeal, they [his backers] are going to fight with him and back him all the way," said Jolobe.

"All the evidence points to the fact that he is not going to go down without a good fight. His career is by no means over. Even if he has to vacate his office, he may just have to shout from a different roof top."

"I think it’s going to get a lot uglier and I don’t think the ANC leadership has handled this matter very well," Jolobe said.

Comments
  • rofras - 2012-02-29 14:54

    who cares about his future?

      Robert - 2012-02-29 14:56

      For all democratic South Africans to have a good future, Malema needs to have NO future. EXPEL HIM FROM THE ANC FOR LIFE !!!

      J-Man - 2012-02-29 15:06

      53 million (stolen) rands.... with no education. Wow. Only in SA.

      Robert - 2012-02-29 15:10

      Franks, that's exactly what the Hawks and SARS are busy working on. The ANC know it too, so it's better for them to ditch Malema and leave him to rot in jail.

      Sean - 2012-02-29 15:23

      Get rid of the rubbish ! It will only be for the better for the whole of South Africa !

      Godfrey - 2012-02-29 15:28

      @Frank & Robert - agreed, the ANC is masters in using stste machinery to settle scores.

      Mike - 2012-02-29 15:34

      It is not WHO you know, but WHAT you know!! Shame that I had to study 26 years where I am and I still don't have R53m?? Sadly, the R53m will stay even if he gets life for that matter!! (Unless the Hawks can do something (Mmmmmm)?) I'll do that for my family!??!

      Jason - 2012-02-29 16:02

      J-Man how simple are you to think that this can only happen in South Africa. 53 Million is nothing and corruption relatively speaking in South Africa is mild "Still not acceptable but mild" and he should go to jail for it..

      Henri - 2012-02-29 16:16

      In Johannesburg a fire destroyed a block of flats. A Nigerian family of six con-artists lived on the first floor, and all six died in the fire. An Islamic group of seven Somalian welfare cheats, all illegally in the country, lived on the second floor, and they, too, all perished in the fire. Six local ex-cons lived on the 3rd floor and they too, died. One white couple lived on the top floor. The couple survived the fire. Hearing this on national news, Julius Malema and Zwelinzima Vavi were furious. They flew into Joburg and quickly demanded a meeting with the Fire Chief. On camera, they loudly demanded to know why the blacks all died in the 'racist' fire and only the white couple lived. The Fire Chief calmly replied, "The whites were at work."

      Mfudzi - 2012-02-29 16:37

      put it more like this "i don't care about the future" because then your statement excludes me and a lot of my likes. those who do not care about the future reflect a phobia related to the loss of illegally owned land. go to hell and leave us with our future.

      wehan.victor - 2012-02-29 17:02

      @Mfudzi Please go back to your broken country Zimbabwe and leave us South Africans alone. Thanks a bunch.

      CapeChappy - 2012-02-29 18:30

      I'm more concerned with what is going to happen to all the KFC franchises if he loses his income stream...

  • Henri - 2012-02-29 14:54

    Malema at an art gallery:- I suppose this horrible thing is what u white people call modern art??? Art dealer:- I beg your pardon Sir, that's a mirror.

      Robert - 2012-02-29 14:56

      BAWAHAHAHAH

      dirk.smit1 - 2012-02-29 15:22

      Now that is a good JM joke!

      Españyol - 2012-02-29 15:36

      Shortest political joke "Malema"

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-29 17:34

      Classic..Good one but what it makes more humurous is the fact that it is quite probable with his sub IQ

  • Gordon20 - 2012-02-29 14:55

    Julius, who...????

      Robert - 2012-02-29 14:57

      You know? the carpenter

      David - 2012-02-29 15:06

      The fatboy woodworker.. that's who

      Robert - 2012-02-29 15:11

      Malema and the Youth League must come do my garden for me. I hate weeds.

      E=MC2 - 2012-02-29 16:01

      the ANCYL are weeds!

      Mike - 2012-02-29 16:14

      Your potential future president.

  • mercia.rand - 2012-02-29 14:57

    Maybe it is time for the media and everyone else to turn their backs on Julius Malema. He thrives on the coverage he gets, just like a clown thrives on audience response. Just let him be.

  • Sam - 2012-02-29 14:59

    Whats gonna happen to news 24? are they gonna shut down if Juju gets fired?

      Robert - 2012-02-29 15:03

      No, they'll just find the next troublemaking idiot to start writing about.

      dirk.smit1 - 2012-02-29 15:24

      No, they will have to start reporting on real news. Like, who the hell is poaching our Rhinos!!!!

      Mfudzi - 2012-02-29 16:42

      NEWS24 have to either close shop or focus on Mathale, who else?

  • Yvonne - 2012-02-29 15:00

    With people lke Pieter Mulder around, we need Malema and Mugabe!

      J-Man - 2012-02-29 15:05

      What a load of uninformed, racist cr@p. If you really believe this, I feel sorry for you.

      Arthur - 2012-02-29 15:14

      Not only do YOU need Malema and Mugabe, you also need psychiatric help.

      dirk.smit1 - 2012-02-29 15:33

      Cool, I had my first comment removed.

      Robert - 2012-02-29 15:36

      @Authur, not to mention a face lift

      Morama - 2012-02-29 15:39

      Exactly my words my beloved beautiful sister!!!

      Mike - 2012-02-29 15:39

      @Yvonne: I trust you are living in a multi R mansion in Camps Bay (oops, Sandton or anc country?). If not? Go claim a yellow T-Shirt with Winnies picture on it!

      Sizah - 2012-02-29 15:42

      easy folkes Yvone is speaking her mind, why mention of pieter mulder & then all hell break loose, u start insulting yvone - if Yvone's comment doesnt suit your political view either based on race which i doubt was her intention does it make any of yours any better??? or it's d same a'll double standards i always read about @NEWS24???

      J-Man - 2012-02-29 15:48

      NO Sizah - someone saying "we NEED" a dictator who lets his country fall into ruins, his people starve and die, while he lives a lavish lifestyle etc, is not a 'political view', its a pathetic attempt at sounding clever. I won't even mention the little boy, as he's irrelevant.

      Mike - 2012-02-29 16:20

      I agree 101% with you comrade,don't worry about these benefitiaries of apartheid government.Their chance to reign in Africa has passed,struggle will continue.An economic emancipation of the African youth,Big up to the uncle Bob for not bowing down from this fight,I wish him to live another 20 years.Africa would be a better place if we have people like him.

      lynette.prinsloo - 2012-02-29 16:22

      @ Yvonne, - Mugabe!! so you want no food, no home, no future? He starves his country's people and his country men run to South Africa to have any incling of a future. You are as insane as he is and Malema is not far behind!

      Maria - 2012-02-29 16:35

      You three look-a-like..... Can I donate you a mirror ????

      Mfudzi - 2012-02-29 16:43

      Yvonne you are a star

      Melanie - 2012-02-29 16:57

      @Mfudzi Wamambo - You support a dictator yet you are working for helping hands? Will stop my contribution to that charity ASAP!!!!

      wehan.victor - 2012-02-29 17:04

      Mfudzi you are an idiot

      John - 2012-02-29 18:02

      @ Robert... If you don't have anything to say.. don't say it. But to attack her looks because you don't like her comments is a bit childish don't you think?? Its called "constructive criticism"

      Patsy - 2012-02-29 19:38

      OMG Yvonne!!!! WHERE do you keep your brain??? Do you have one???

  • Gea - 2012-02-29 15:01

    kama is a bitch

      Matthew - 2012-02-29 15:12

      Kama Sutra is cool, it is Karma that is the bitch.

      Raymond - 2012-02-29 15:21

      No, Kama is a chameleon.

  • Whispers4life - 2012-02-29 15:02

    53Mil dis nou lekker! who cares if you have a bad rep. you living in luxuary! ai tog

      Marion - 2012-02-29 15:53

      That's allegedly 53 million in the bank. What about property value? Trust account. Shares in company? etc.,? For someone who is only 30 he has had a meteoric rise from rags to riches.

  • Lizel - 2012-02-29 15:03

    Still waiting for some real news , NEWS 24!!!!!

  • sardick.davids - 2012-02-29 15:07

    The Pacman just got chewed up by da ghosts *pacman dying sound*

  • Ditantane - 2012-02-29 15:08

    Viva Malema

      Robert - 2012-02-29 15:12

      Goodbye Malema

      J-Man - 2012-02-29 15:12

      Viva all you want today...because tomorrow, no more.

      Vusi - 2012-02-29 15:34

      @Ditantane I get so sad for all of us when I read statements like yours. If only we could all understand how the economy works then we would be able to make so much better choices. Malema's choices are catastrophic on the long term. With every speech he gives and calls for nationalisation, all the foreign investors run away. We need the foreign investors to come create manufacturing plants for us, so our people can find jobs. Do you have any idea what it is like being 20 and there is no future job opportunities for you? Probably not, because you get a salary every month. You need to start thinking about the millions of us without jobs. You need to think of how do we improve our international standing to attract investors to our country. Too many people are falling for the popular speeches of Malema. When the day comes and the world has run away from us like they did with Zimbabwe, where will Malema be when we starve? In Mauritius with a cocktail in his hand?

      Marion - 2012-02-29 16:08

      @Elbie - actually there are, they just don't post on News24.

      Vusi - 2012-02-29 16:10

      @Marion. That is VERY true! I wish they would though, because that would give the readers of News24 a lot of peace of mind. There is no way that all of us are running after this loud mouthed fool that has no clue how the economy functions.

      Lucky Tshilimandila - 2012-02-29 16:50

      And the reason we don't post here is that some people are utilizing this platform as a racism forum. Lets respect and love each other then we all shall apply our minds and contribute.

      josefaramelato.mthombeni - 2012-02-29 17:29

      HALALA MALEMA HALALA!!!! Ha ona ya tshwanang le yena...

      Anthony - 2012-02-29 18:38

      @Vusi, Too many people are falling for your con, on the on hand its hilerious, but its also very sad, how many (wh) South Africans are clinging to straws. They should realize, there are no short cuts to the RAINBOW NATION !! Is is a matter of damn hard work, to make a better future for our kids. "Vusi" What is your real name; Johan van der Merwe ????????

  • Dennis - 2012-02-29 15:12

    Send him on vacation to Siberia ..... permantly !!

  • kasamkelo - 2012-02-29 15:14

    Juju 4 life kweeeeeeeee

      Raymond - 2012-02-29 15:44

      Agreed, a life sentence would go down very well.

      Marion - 2012-02-29 16:09

      @kasamkelo ... you sound just like a grey lourie...

  • Dee - 2012-02-29 15:15

    THe current ANCYL leadership is not going anywhere. Never!!! Malema is here to stay.... Tshipiti!

      Robert - 2012-02-29 15:37

      LOL !!! Last kicks of a dying horse. Just wait until the Sherif evicts Malema and co out of Luthuli House. WE CAN'T WAIT !!!

      josefaramelato.mthombeni - 2012-02-29 17:24

      He is our leader and going nowhere... Gudstuff my bro. Keep up the good work..

  • john.ncala - 2012-02-29 15:15

    really who cares about him even id Sishego they don't care

  • frans.grobler3 - 2012-02-29 15:16

    Bye Bye gone to wood work class also want R53 mil - Eish bet the westerners contribute to that R53 mil and now he wants to shut them out by nationalising the mines. China man moves in paying workers $50 pm down goes SA

      nthabiseng.priklopil - 2012-02-29 15:31

      Self proclaimed "westerner". Is your GPS malfunctioning that you ended in the South?

      Mano-Lee - 2012-02-29 17:08

      @nthabiseng - nope, not the gps thats faulty. MK vets were so useless, we conquered you. Thats why we are here. And watch your tongue, we may conquer again

  • TheSkepticDetective - 2012-02-29 15:16

    Malema is a racist in the truest sense of the word and every moment that he is allowed to speak in public is another moment that he undermines all the hard work that was done by the true leaders of this country in the fight against apartheid. I love being a part of this country. I know that we still have a lot of problems and a long way to go in fixing them, but allowing hollow-minded imbeciles like Malema to vomit their hate-filled rubbish into the public arena will only have one result: further marginalisation of ethnic groups in this country. Please shut this guy up? For the good of the country. Take away his platform and allow him to dwindle into the obscurity that now seems inevitable. Allow us a safe and equal environment in which to raise our children.

      Robert - 2012-02-29 15:23

      There are more black racist in SA than any other race group. Look at all the viscious attacks on family homes and on farms. They all perpetrated by black racists.

      humbelanin - 2012-02-29 18:02

      What is Pieter Mulder? based on what he just said in Parliament about Blacks and the land issue? What is the late Terreblanche? What is Steve Hofmeyer???????? and many many more you know of. And areyou not one?

      TheSkepticDetective - 2012-03-01 07:02

      Malema isn't the only racist with a public stage in this country, and I think that they should all be punched in the face. With any luck these short-sighted, narrow minded bigots will learn a lesson. I don't think that anyone else got as much publicity for being a bigot as Malema did though, and I don't think that anyone you mentioned (Humbelani) would be capable of doing as much damage as Comrade Malema was doing.

  • Roann - 2012-02-29 15:23

    Kick him out I have some champers on ice just waiting for the word

      Matlose - 2012-02-29 21:28

      Damn you

  • Sariena - 2012-02-29 15:23

    Malema will only walk because Zuma is afraid of what he knows and might tell

      Marion - 2012-02-29 16:10

      @Sariena ... if he walks because of what he knows about Zuma, then he has no allegiances and can spill the beans about Zuma can't he?

  • Den - 2012-02-29 15:25

    fry this rat please

      William - 2012-02-29 17:19

      A RAT HAS MORE SENCE THAN HIM. DONT INSULT A RAT LIKE THAT DEN!!!!!

  • Johan - 2012-02-29 15:25

    Would this not be great Malema gets booted he goes and creates another party with his backers. At last we might have a strong opposition against the ANC because the DA can only disagree with everything the ANC does

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-02-29 15:33

      The ANC must be the only political party in the world that can have members with such diametrically opposed opinions on a range of issues. It needs to split. Then we can have a proper democracy not the de facto single party state we are currently lumbered with.

  • Nigel - 2012-02-29 15:31

    I wonder who those politically connected people are in the industry.....it would be interesting to see who they are & what their agenda is.

  • DrGonzoSA - 2012-02-29 15:31

    Malema supporters should pay particular attention to this bit: "politically-connected business people who thought the nationalisation of mines would benefit them would continue to support Malema." Its not about the poor, its about a few (already) fat cats getting even fatter

  • Putin the " - 2012-02-29 15:31

    "I think it’s going to get a lot uglier and I don’t think the ANC leadership has handled this matter very well," Jolobe said. Its gonna get mercy, touch le go

  • Doc - 2012-02-29 15:34

    His day came and went, he will be remembered as a side note to the developing history of our country. His backers will dump him for they were after political favours, where is Tokyo's big mouth now and all the rest, the writing is on the wall and I am sure one or two of them will still visit him clandestinely in prison to feed him a few peanuts but who is going to stick with him now, who wants to be investigated, questioned and probed by SARS and HAWKS (the focus will always be on "know associates" as well). To many skeletons in the closets and no one will want the spotlight on themselves. Good By JuJu R.I.A (rest in agony).

  • nkadimeng - 2012-02-29 15:36

    Its all clear who "The enemy" is.

      Robert - 2012-02-29 15:38

      AGREED, GET RID OF MALEMA AND THE ANCYL, SOUTH AFRICA'S ENEMIES

  • Morama - 2012-02-29 15:36

    Thank's Mr Friedman,you have clarrified a lot!!!

      Putin the " - 2012-02-29 16:03

      Its just an opinion idiot, haai Africans trying to show their naked minds!!

      Mano-Lee - 2012-02-29 17:10

      @putin - you mean 'empty' minds

  • Wendy - 2012-02-29 15:40

    uncertain .. sure .. the tax payers money has supported him thus far and it will continue to do so.

  • reginald.dube - 2012-02-29 15:42

    if you stop talking about him, he stops being relevant. but hey keep commenting. i am a black person with half a brain, what do i know?

      Robert - 2012-02-29 15:44

      When he stops being in the news (like now now when he's kicked out of the ANC for life), then we'll all stop talking about him as he dissappears into obscurity

  • J.D. - 2012-02-29 15:45

    If he have 53M in the bank then he is 53M times in deep trouble. That will not go away . At least on the statements. But we will hear a lot more about this guy and a lot of people will be involved. That is why the anc cannot come a conlusion, they do not know what the fallout will be and who will be involved. Interesting.

  • Siyambuka Archibald Sikrweqe - 2012-02-29 15:45

    I don't think he knows the meaning of Nationalisation

  • Mashudu - 2012-02-29 15:49

    Malema is a Puppet.

  • Tau - 2012-02-29 15:50

    Backers or not R53 mil. Poeple work for 40 years and their retirement is not 90% of the R53mil. Politics is good business.

      Robert - 2012-02-29 15:56

      Especially if you are corrupt

  • Ambi - 2012-02-29 16:02

    blah blah blah same old rubbish about the same old rubbish

  • Brian - 2012-02-29 16:04

    Let the Coconut Shy begin

  • Raymond - 2012-02-29 16:17

    dumela Malema la maxhaxha ayanya rhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • Ian - 2012-02-29 16:19

    Not so fast everyone, watch out for the second appeal after mitigation!!!!!!!!Watch this drag on for another couple of months!

  • Mfudzi - 2012-02-29 16:33

    i agree with jolobe all the way. unfortunately, i choose to disagree with him where he says that the ANC did not handle this issue "well". is he implying that he has a problem with the way charges were brought against malema or the disciplinary hearings? its not an issue if he is malema's supporter like anybody who so chooses but he is supposed to give a balanced analysis not a biased one and let us make our own judgements.

  • Sinudeity - 2012-02-29 16:42

    If expelled he should start his own party.

  • Louise Higham - 2012-02-29 16:50

    Give him the boot once and for all so we can forget him. SA is better off without the likes of him and his henchmen.

  • Shaun - 2012-02-29 17:12

    What! Julius Had a career? Seriously?

  • josefaramelato.mthombeni - 2012-02-29 17:15

    Bravo Bravo most learned and respectable Sir.. It is a well known fact that us black we know exactly what white people did to us: They stole our land and history confirms that. Whichever way you look at it, white people owe us heavily. Whether Malema stays or go, we know our goal. The one to succeed him will do more than that. Malema has set the foundation to free the struggling black people. The moment we took over our freedom, our goals were already drafted. The ANC is the ruling party and is so African. All these comrades were tortured and killed by white people. Its high time the ANC stick to its policies, goals and take back the land from the robbers. My ANC my future lets sort out our internal affairs and not give the enemy to cause division in the house. Malema is representing the youth.. Malema is young, focused, powerful and pushing the agenda that the youth stands for.. HALALA ANCYL HALALA... LONG LIVE MALEMA, LONG LIVE>>>!!!!

  • humbelanin - 2012-02-29 17:36

    I have observed that many of the comments made here are more personal, bearing racial connotations and politically misguided, lacking clarity and content. However, to cut it short, if you care less about Malema and his issues, why then are you people so on and on about his latest statements? Because what he says affects you wether you like it or not. His utterence has an impact in your lives, so you can not afford not to care about such, unless you are an ignorant person. Why do you listen/read and follow the news about the so called stupid, uneducated, ill disciplined and all sorts of names tagged on him by some of you? Why do you still make so many comments emmanating from articles about him? Some say News24 should stop giving him coverage, news mediums are guided by what attracts readers across the world, not the few who just raise louzy views about stopping covering news about Malema, he is the news maker at the moment and nothing much you can do about it. We stil hear news about Terreblanche or whatever name it is, the Boeremags and other Afrikaner out laws of the world. Media writes about them and we read becauese its news worthy. So is Malema issues. He is making news now and media should feed us with such content. Even your evil wishes that he should just die are so petty. So read his news or OR IGNORE IT, OR ELSE keep singing your song which is out of tune.

  • Simphiwe - 2012-02-29 17:38

    I believe the case was held very well,I just disagree with the fact that he was suspended.Julius Malema was supposed to be expelled from the party from the onset. Lets hope that today suspension will be amended to expulsion.

  • sikhumbuzok - 2012-02-29 20:15

    Its a tragedy that Malema enjoys so much support and the media follows him wherever he goes. Its abt tym he vacates the political space and takes his gutter politics with him. He is a despicable human being. As a South African society we dont need him. Its abt tym the brightest and smartest of us take up such positions and use these positions for the betterment of our country. Where have the intellectuals gone?

  • Sinjoku - 2012-02-29 20:34

    All I ask is for some solid conclusive evidence that Nationalisation of mines is in the benefit of all SA citzens....If there is, the change would be a no brainer, take max 30 sec to swing. I am not interested in what a lecturer or sheep think about it.... I want to see a table of the Pro's vs the Con's.

      Arvin - 2012-03-01 01:06

      Malema is a pro & a con. There you have it!!!!

  • Chris - 2012-02-29 21:56

    Quite an achievement; Welcome to the future (world) of the white male in South Africa.

  • Deon - 2012-03-01 07:30

    I'm glad his future is now uncertain, at least other people have more of a future

  • Charmain - 2012-03-01 07:40

    about time but what does it help he can still appeal so who is the anc bluffing themselves

  • Morelove - 2012-03-01 08:15

    Yes they did not handle it well because when Malema starts pointing the Senior ANCs there wont be a "So What" but hell for them! This is politics it can get dirty & muddy? We also went through this kind of a scenario, this is how SA is going down politically and will lead to a depression as well. This only but the begining of the wosrt in SA politics!