Leaders not indispensable, Malema warns

2011-10-18 23:26

Johannesburg - Leaders are not indispensable and could be removed at the wish of those who elected them, ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema said on Tuesday.

He told students at the Walter Sisulu University in the Eastern Cape that Alfred Xuma, ANC president in the 1940's, never listened to the youth and was therefore not re-elected to lead the party.

"When president Xuma chased them [the youth] away and accused them of being disrespectful - the same accusation we have today against the leadership of the youth league - they went into the conference of the ANC and they said he cannot be a president again," Malema said.

Malema said at that time, not everybody qualified to be president.

"Today, for you to lead the ANC you have to be a person who has got a good standing in society."

Xuma was seen during his leadership as too conservative by an increasingly impatient and activist youth of that time, including former president Nelson Mandela.

Malema made his first reference to Xuma in public after the ANC slapped him with disciplinary charges.

Malema and the youth league's top five officials are accused of sowing division and bringing the ANC into disrepute.

This relates mainly to their statement about helping to effect regime change in Botswana.

The ANC leadership ignored an apology and pressed ahead with disciplinary action against Malema, his deputy Ronald Lamola, spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, secretary-general Sindiso Magaqa, his deputy Kenetswe Mosenogi and treasurer general Pule Mabe.

At his disciplinary hearing over the weekend, Human Settlements Minister Tokyo Sexwale testified for Malema.

Winnie Madikizela-Mandela and ANC national executive committee member Tony Yengeni were also expected to testify in Malema's defence.

  • Jack - 2011-10-18 23:34

    Talk for yourself, no one will miss you malema, South Africa’s full of idiots like yourself...leadership succession is defiantly not a problem.

      Christo - 2011-10-19 00:34

      Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

      chris.debeer1 - 2011-10-19 05:07

      While sewing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old farmer who's hand was caught in the gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to the ANC and Julius Malema. The old farmer said, 'Well, you know, in my opinion, Malema is a “post turtle”. ‘ Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him, what a “post turtle” was. ... The old farmer said, 'When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a “post turtle”. ‘ The old farmer saw the puzzled look on the doctor's face so he continued to explain…… 'You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he's up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb-f### put him up there to begin with.’

      Koos - 2011-10-19 05:56

      Not does that mean they can all be shot and the country can start again?

      Jason - 2011-10-19 05:59

      @Luiz... ur right.. in this realm he not going anywhere but 6ft under

      msendi - 2011-10-19 07:02

      Give that Jack a Jack Daniels…

      eric.vanvuuren - 2011-10-19 12:57

      That's Right Name Most Of Our 'most' Corrupted Officials In On Article, Like So Much Rubbish. If Only Some-one Like Malema Would Grow-up And Try Too Unite The Country. Even I Would Follow Such A "South African".

      Ann - 2011-10-19 14:29

      These words could become a self-fulfilling prophecy Julius ... :)

      marina.poniatowska - 2011-10-19 16:49

      Idiot he is, but he still has the majority support. He will be the next president.

      Anthony - 2011-10-20 10:23

      where do u get your information from marina --''he still has the majority support''----rubish this is not fact or do u have inside information lol lol

  • Ian - 2011-10-18 23:44

    ong dammit, i was enjoying the quiet, get lost retard

      Michael - 2011-10-19 08:13

      Well he does have a valid point @Ian. Put the Malema baggage to the side for the moment and focus on the message and not the messenger. Irrespective of how the anti-Malema brigade feels about him, that does not necessarily mean that everything he says is nonsense. I am intrigued that in this situation, where it has essentially become a power struggle between Zuma and Malema, that commentators here have essentially decided to side with Zuma. Does that mean that they consider Zuma to be the lesser of 2 evils or are now Zuma supporters? Also quite intriguing that there was a Xuma and we now have a Zuma - are they pronounced the same and does the former also have a showerhead? :p

  • markplstephens - 2011-10-18 23:45

    I I ever meet Malema in person, I want to give him "Hitler, the rise of Evil."

      Witbooi - 2011-10-19 03:49

      I want to give him a clout and swift kick in the nuts.

      Jerhone - 2011-10-19 07:53

      I'd like to give him Hitler's pineapple from the movie little Nicky

  • leerobbertse - 2011-10-18 23:49

    Mr Malema, it is really sad that you had such a opportunity to lead the youth into the rainbow nation and you mess it up so big, you will go down in history as an idiot rather then a great leader, few people had the chance to make a success of SA for the people of South Africa then YOU had and you F it all up

  • kevin.rack - 2011-10-18 23:57

    Yep right back at ya fool. Those words will haunt you JuJu. Every revolution has a secondary revolution which is non violent, sometimes decades later, when the majority is sick and tired of lies and failed policies

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2011-10-19 00:01

    Yip ur so right JM, this applies to YOU as well!

  • Theo - 2011-10-19 00:03

    Its True But the then Yout Wing was full of Intelects not Idiots

  • linda.l.mndayi - 2011-10-19 00:14

    Hear Hear, but know that applies to you too Malema

  • Madulla - 2011-10-19 00:29

    Malema respects no-one - not even himself! He is an uncouth and destructive force within the ANC. Malema gave the disciplinary hearing a middle finger with his opportunistically timed, 'feigned illness'. Those who are testifying in Malema's defence, have hidden agendas. Winnie has a criminal record and so does Yengeni. Malema has NO leadership qualities about him and all he does is to divide instead of uniting? Malema adds absolutely NOTHING to SA and he is only there to look after his own personal interests. The fact that his side-kicks benefit through tenders, is immaterial. You have to scrape the barrel bone-dry, if anyone to thinks that Malema is presidential material. If left unchecked, Malema has the potential to totally ruin of the ANC.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2011-10-19 00:48

      Not much difference between X and Z, except for Y. Yes Malema, we read you loud and clear.

      Marion - 2011-10-19 07:19

      Madulla, I agree with you but I think your last sentence needs to be expanded a bit. If left unchecked, Malema has the potential to totally ruin the ANC and drag South Africa down the same path as much of Africa has gone. He says: "Today, for you to lead the ANC you have to be a person who has got a good standing in society." Is he hinting that he fits into this category? roflmao

      Jerhone - 2011-10-19 08:20

      What is with this preserve the ANC at all costs,you can't ruin them any more than they've already ruined themselves, weak governance, money grabbers,they have taken this country to the brink of economic and social ruin, as Shakespear said "whats in a name,a rose by any other smells just as sweet" MOVE ON join or form other parties start enjoying real freedom, real democracy, unshackle yourself from this mindset of loyalty you have for your false saviour's who care only for themselves

      Ann - 2011-10-19 14:32

      Yes please! :)

  • Karoo - 2011-10-19 02:27

    Malema would that rule apply to you too? Why do knowledgable people just know you will "insist" on being an exception to that rule. Like your tyrant buddy Mugabe.

  • Jason - 2011-10-19 02:36

    Funny that is exactly what I was thinking, hope you enjoy life without the comforts of corruption.

  • Grant - 2011-10-19 03:28

    "He told students at the Walter Sisulu University in the Eastern Cape..." I take it Malema was invited to speak there. If the future leaders of SA are prepared to sit and listen to an idiot like Malema it does not bode well for the country. With heavyweights like Winnie, Sexwale and Yengani supporting Malema, Zuma's days are numbered.

  • Julie - 2011-10-19 03:31

    Jesus is Coming Soon; VERY SOON!!!.

  • Lara - 2011-10-19 03:36

    Malema You seriously need to examine yourself! Remove yourself from the ANCYL. You are too old to talk obo us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Lara - 2011-10-19 03:59

    I stay with my vw. U r an a**hole. Get out. ANCYL is for da youth. How old r u?

  • Rudolph Bergh - 2011-10-19 05:45

    Come on News24. Get at least the name right. Xuma, really?

      kkaloyanova - 2011-10-19 06:36

      It is a typo.Can happen when writing is fast or thinking is faster :)

      frans.visserdsb - 2011-10-19 07:09

      no typo. Dr Alfred Bitini Xuma was the leader of the ANC in the 40s. But the parralel with the current leader is tenuous at best - he had a PhD in tropical medicine from the London school of medicine, and was instrumental in reorganising the ANC and rewriting their constitution. Definitely more intellectual than either the current incumbent or the woodwork specialist...

      Felix - 2011-10-19 07:56

      He used Dr Xuma as an example, we all know why he picked him though. He thinks he is clever. lol

      Deon - 2011-10-19 09:04

      This Xuma was around in the 1940's. I know Zuma is old but not so long in politics.

  • raymond.kok3 - 2011-10-19 05:55

    you know our so called president needs to grow some hair on his chest because this idiot malema is running rampant and dictating to everybody what to do and how to behave.i am sure whoever will be elected by 2000 fools on behalf of 48million people will suufer the same fate came their sell by date ,man we have t change our voting system this one sucks bigtime

      Felix - 2011-10-19 07:59

      Here, here. Weighted vote based on education and qualifications... Let the smart people decide who should be in charge.

  • Jason - 2011-10-19 06:03

    and news24, u say clouded and thunderstorms in the morning,, there is not one cloud...

  • Kate - 2011-10-19 06:06

    THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK. Those couple of days in hospital did you goood !! Idiot

  • Cristina - 2011-10-19 06:07

    When will this person SHUT UP....please!!!

  • Dan - 2011-10-19 06:13

    Still challenging the ANC leadership and actually warning them. No respect for the ANC leadership. They created this ugly little fat monster.

  • kkaloyanova - 2011-10-19 06:16

    Mr Malema, We were robbed at 8h30 on Sunday morning (16.10.2011). Our 3 computers and all valuavles were taken from our home. What a shame!!!Our privacy was invaded!We can not sleep and our lifes are not the same. Why dont you do something GOOD for a change. You have influence over the YOUTH. Why dont you come with a different approach :a do good strategy. 1)stop the crime in South Africa 2)stop the second hand goods shops unless proven purchase and has a police clearance on the goods ... 3)kill the robber ,kill the rapist Your popularity will be a total success

      Sammy - 2011-10-19 09:26

      He does not think like you at all!

  • Kent - 2011-10-19 06:19

    ...who released from hospital?

  • Kevin - 2011-10-19 06:30

    You fat boy have zero standing in the community. Come to think of it does anyone who voted for the anc have any form of standing?

      Grant - 2011-10-19 07:11

      Unfortunatly I have to disagree Kevin. Malema seems to pull in crowds wherever he goes and he's been voted in twice in the ANCYL

  • Trevor - 2011-10-19 06:53

    Racist Pig

  • Juan - 2011-10-19 07:14

    South Africa needs a serious overhaul of it's electoral system. The fact that the ANCYL are key players in electing who's ultimately our state president is troubling. The president should be elected by the voters directly. You can't have an organisation of juveniles deliquents having a strangle hold over a country's president that is just in sane.

  • braamc - 2011-10-19 07:20

    Leaders, show me one good leader in the ANC/ANYL/ANCWL. The fat thieve opened mouth again, dude, we surely won't miss you.

  • morena.motaung1 - 2011-10-19 07:23

    this guy must enroll for academic qualification to gain perspective and we must remember that malema never gone to military therefore lack military and academic perspective to view the revolutionary change we are living.people like nelson mandela,tsietsi mashinini and others died for the economy to be like this,people like malema they dont have scars,let the guy show us his sacrifice,bcos wht we know of malema is expensive lifestyle and flashy cars

      milanrenaud - 2011-10-19 08:40

      Nelson Mandela died for the struggle? Someone had better tell him.

  • Marion - 2011-10-19 07:27

    When did Malema start wearing his beret when in public??? What message is he communicating that the rest of us are oblivious to? Or have I forgotten that it was always part of his dress code?

      Albert - 2011-10-19 07:38

      HE IS TRYING TO HIDE THAT PIECE OF POLISHED WOOD THAT HE CALLS A HEAD He wears a stretchberet because he can`t find a big anough hat.

      lionel.holder - 2011-10-19 08:28

      He is just a wannabe soldier, would probably have been the thinnest of them all during the Bushwar as he would have been infront running away....

      Marion - 2011-10-19 09:31

      Well, based on my memory the beret is pretty much a new addition to his wardrobe... very militant approach now for someone who needs up to 7 bodyguards to protect his sorry butt... we don't only have the blue light brigade in SA, we have the red tie brigade that goes everywhere with him... certainly doesn't have the courage of his convictions... wuss...

  • Gammat - 2011-10-19 07:32

    Yep, you are a leader Malema....

  • Bloodstone - 2011-10-19 07:36

    He is now openly threatening the leadership of the ANC. And prominent members members of the ANC NEC is supporting him? Something tells me that the canvas of this this struggle painting is going to be torn to shreds. God help SA against whatever monster will then emerge.

  • nikondaniel - 2011-10-19 07:37

    ANCYL leaders and diapers are the same, they need to be changed often, for the same reason. (Mark Twain)

  • Theprodigy - 2011-10-19 07:46

    A murderer & a corrupt gravy train drunk, testifying for the "prince of the poor", what a circus.

  • francois.roux1 - 2011-10-19 07:56

    It's almost like he's taunting them, flipping insane...

  • Al - 2011-10-19 08:04

    Glad to hear, so after you are voted out, please dont let the door smack you on the way out ;)

  • Con - 2011-10-19 08:24

    Mandisi, the man himself says that to be a leader you must be a person who has got good standing in society. It cannot be a person who uses foul language, commits tender fraud, insults everybody in the most vile manner, etc. He disqualifies himself. Why would you want to vote for him ? Are there no decent educated people in the ANC ?

  • Ayandalibala - 2011-10-19 08:26

    Lol Xuma - Zuma krkrrkrkrk I likeI like

  • Andre - 2011-10-19 08:27

    Malema must just remember that the same applies to him. Furthermore I still cannot apprehend why Tokyo would support him - the other two I can understand - they have been found guilty in a court of law.

  • thabang.matlole - 2011-10-19 08:27

    Whatever you guys say here on this blogs does not affect us in the ruling party. At the risk of being arrogant, I am tempted to say to you, waste your breath on commenting negatively about our beloved ANC. Truth be told, if we had not liberated this country, even those who are against the transformation in this country would not have accumulated their wealth at this pace and scale. Malema is the elected President of the ANC Youth League, the biggest youth formation in the country and was elected unopposed, maybe we are all unintelligent and stupid. You would have done yourself a great favour if you had filled in a membership application form of the ANC Youth League, provided that age permits, in order to be in our thinking space and that would grant you an opportunity to engage on issues of national importance. If you dont qualify, fill in the ANC membership application form. Otherwise keep on frustrating yourself on these blogs. To us Malema resonates with time and space, he is point on, the best leader that our organisational machinery has ever produced, whether you agree with it or not.

      Felix - 2011-10-19 09:18

      Stealing tax money is not 'accumulating wealth' and it's taking this country down the tubes. Wake up.

      Jerhone - 2011-10-19 10:18

      To Thabanggat to think for myself, have you ever heard the phrase "the pen is mightier than the sword" i suppose not, your thinking tells me that you have been given a very low standard of education

  • Malcolm - 2011-10-19 08:32

    Okay, So what I understand from this speech, is that Malema and his intellectual youth league mongrels, are going to march into the officces of the ANC, and tell Jacob Zuma the herd boy, that he cannot be president anymore. All this after being a huge player in putting the herd boy there in the first place, after many daft colonialists told him it was a bad idea. Eeeeeish

  • Alexi - 2011-10-19 08:32

    i swear .... id bash your head in with my heel on the curve of the side walk if i had to see u infront of me !! .....

  • CyberDog - 2011-10-19 08:35

    Yeah if only the ignorant fools who voted for them could actually come to this realization to ... Go Melema, wake them up... And encourage education. Then these ignorant masses will vote for real leaders, not fools, erm, much like you .. sigh.... A losing battle much ?

  • Herman - 2011-10-19 08:43

    After Polokwane I moved out of the ANC because of what happened to my President T. Mbeki.The same people who used comrade Malema to do the dirty work, are now on tne recieving end. enjoy every moment of it. I have forgiven Malema and have grown fond of him. Also if you look at the comrades supporting him, they are true ANC cadres that we used to whorship during difficult times. What i like mostly about Malema is that he is original and far more intelligent than most people who did not fail woodwork who comment stupudly in this forum. Who knows, one might again vote ANC when he becomes the president of the ANC.

      Jerhone - 2011-10-19 10:25

      Another ANC zombie walking amongst the living

      mkerruish - 2011-10-19 12:21

      "whorship" (sic) Does this mean that you worship prostitutes?

  • dawiej - 2011-10-19 08:45

    Cut His balls off. Dont allow him to procreate Save humanity

  • Catie - 2011-10-19 08:58

    Quote: "Today, for you to lead the ANC you have to be a person who has got a good standing in society." -end quote. Well that sinks your ship Juju !!

      Taya - 2011-10-19 13:24

      ummmmm.... it leaves the Dalai Lama.... oh no wait he isnt allowed in....

  • anselmo.coelho1 - 2011-10-19 09:15

    Talk for yourself malema do not forget your own words Mr. Zuma is more cunning than what you will ever be he is giving enough rpoe and you sure are letting yourself go to the noose .

  • Koos - 2011-10-19 09:19

    mmm... and you have a good standing in society...? rather listen to what the people want and they clearly dont want you!

  • tacod - 2011-10-19 09:26

    I wonder what the electorate would say if they heard Malema say" F the poor and uneducated, we reached our goals. Let them think that we are doing something for them, they will keep on voting for us and we can carry on taking the tax money for ourselves."

  • Wikus - 2011-10-19 09:37

    Leaders are not indispensable..... Goes for you too Malema...

      Lanfear - 2011-10-19 10:11

      Exactly! YOU are also not indispensable Malema! In fact, except for a couple of thousand rabid supporters, absolutely nobody will miss you!

  • Marion - 2011-10-19 09:59

    Go check out this international site. Came across it by accident this morning. Made my blood run cold :

      Marion - 2011-10-19 10:12

      This is the site for an international group based in USA that observes the activities in countries and grades them according to the risk level for genocide. South Africa has recently been upgraded to Level 6, 'Preparaton'. Grade 7 is when actual genocide happens. :-(((

      Jennifer - 2011-10-19 13:14

      Hi Marion, the one thing very few are paying attention to is STD's, I wonder if this government will have the numbers to carry out their wishes much longer. You reap what you sow... The people are sterilising themselves.

      Marion - 2011-10-19 21:09

      Hi Jennifer... you're right about the STD's. They multiply as quickly as fleas... and the denialist approach has helped HIV / AIDS spiral out of control to the point where they cannot afford to give everyone treatment... a subtle form of genocide when they start deciding who can and cannot have ARV's etc. A few years back I heard some guy on tv from one of these international organisations speaking about HIV in armies deployed to Africa. He said that when x country's soldiers were tested they were x % HIV positive, and when y country's soldiers were tested they were y % positive. And so he carried on. When he got to SA he said that 100% of soldiers deployed to whatever African peacekeeping force it was, were HIV positive. A perfect 100%. You don't get much worse than that...