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Limpopo ANCYL 'fired up', ready to fight

2012-03-01 16:45

Johannesburg - The ANCYL in Limpopo has drawn battle lines against its mother body and says it is prepared to fight Julius Malema 's expulsion from the party to the bitter end.

Addressing the media at the ANC’s provincial headquarters in Polokwane this afternoon, Limpopo youth league leaders openly declared war against the ANC, saying the decision to fire Malema was "unacceptable".

The Youth League's treasurer in the province, Rudzani Ludere, said "we are not intimidated, but we are actually fired up. We will continue to fight... They can even call for a mass factional expulsion; we are not going to retreat".

Provincial secretary and close Malema ally Jacob Lebogo said: "If it means the youth league will be disbanded, let it be... President Malema remains president of the ANCYL as elected in Gallagher Estate. We are not here to play, we are running an organisation. We are not going to compromise the revolution."

Malema, said Lebogo, will remain the league's president until the end of the current political term in 2014.

"The Youth League in Limpopo stands firmly behind this declaration as it supports the view that retention or disposal of leadership within the Youth League can only be decided by internal processes.

"As a result we wish to state that the decision of the National Disciplinary Commitee to expel the youth league president and suspend for three years the membership of the secretary general [Sindiso Magaqa] as well as the national spokesperson [Floyd Shivambu] is unacceptable to the youth league in Limpopo", said Lebogo in a press statement.

The league, said Lebogo, is of the view that Malema's hearing was politically motivated and was driven by people who think that by removing Youth League leaders they can supress its political ideology - including the nationalisation of the mines and expropriation of land without compensation.

Provincial chairperson Frans Masoane said the only thing that will solve the stand-off between the youth league and its mother body was a political solution.

"We have been saying that matter is political, nothing requires discipline. It’s a political matter and it requires clarity. You can’t just wake up one morning and charge people".

The autonomy of the league, he said, was being undermined.

"We can't have an ANCYL that when it wants to speak it must consult President Jacob Zuma. This is about the battle to Mangaung and the ANCYL must be unbanned", he said, adding that if the ANC fails to unban them, its rank and file will do so in Mangaung.

He also vowed to mobilise ANC branches to fight Malema’s expulsion.

Comments
  • Grimmister - 2012-03-01 16:50

    Lovely weather in Johannesburg at the moment...Yaaawnnnnnn

      Janice - 2012-03-01 17:08

      Better get ready for the "bitter end" then!!!!!

      Mike - 2012-03-01 17:15

      @ JohncarlosBiza : Yip al 86 of them!

      Gregory Jurgens - 2012-03-01 17:16

      Slightly hot on durbs. Could do with a swim.

      Mike - 2012-03-01 17:17

      BTW: Let's see who has the b@lls!!! ANC or ANCYL!!!!!

      sewsexy - 2012-03-01 17:23

      Yip very hot and humid here in Durban - makes me wanna Yaaawwwnnnnn all the time

      Graham - 2012-03-01 17:26

      Everything the (former?!) ANCYL spouted broke international law or the human rights convention...

      Peter-Peter - 2012-03-01 17:42

      I see a startling resemblance here... Hunger and poverty stricken workers, demand and try to control the hand that feeds them, and EMPLOYS them. THEN, the ANCYL, put together by the mother body, ANC. NOW fighting and trying to demand/destroy and control 'the hand that feeds it'. Am I seeing too much into this, or am I correct in saying, that the poor and impoverished, need your help, but by doing so, you hand over right for your own destruction, with no compensation beside 'WE DAMAND, WE WANT'? picture the Praying Mantis for example. When the 'deed' is done, the female bites the head off the male. A bit of an over exaggerated example, but fairly to the point.

      Georg - 2012-03-01 18:47

      Perfect proof: They don't understand democracy and neither to they understand discipline. In case anybody still needed proof.

      methedex - 2012-03-02 07:19

      funny that while they plot and scheme, their "struggle brothers" are starving in the streets. You fight is admirable, yet the reason you fight is senseless...

      Jimmy - 2012-03-02 09:43

      "The autonomy of the league, he said, was being undermined"... is this guy for real? You are NOT an autonomous organisation you daft fool!! You are a sub-section of the mother organisation called the ANC which ultimately rules you... I think things are going to get very interesting. I have to say, it's going to be fun sitting and watching this one on the sidelines.

      Edward - 2012-03-02 14:20

      Edward - Just posted Report comment @peter-pan; nope don't think your reading too much into this. Malema has been talking for over a year about "continuing the revolution." The fastest growing group in SA are the under 30's who have hugh unemployment numbers. They have been promised lots of stuff for a lot of years by the ANC but the promises haven't been fulfilled. Now Julius says that the revolution isn't over (here is where you should worry because a revolutionary never has to show how he will govern or how things will be better but only that the current government isn't doing a good job) and his revolution will be an economic one. He will nationalize the mines, the banks, and take farms without compensation. Never mind that there has never been a place in the world (never mind just north) where this has worked. All his supporters see are things that will be taken from others and given to them. And right now the ANC has been promising them new houses, jobs, better education, ect. and they still don't have them. Now Julius has promised them the mines, the banks, and the farms. The fact that most of them will get nothing won't be realized until years after Julius takes these things, but revolutionaries don't have to worry about these things. No, this thing isn't over, not just yet. I would hope that any support Malema has is local to his own home town, but I wouldn't exhale yet.

  • Henri - 2012-03-01 16:52

    hey manne, geniet die rugby die naweek, lions gaan wen en die cheetahs gaan n comedy show kyk !!!!!!!!

      Mike - 2012-03-01 17:20

      @Zoolie: So you recon our Stormers can't do it? (Nearly wanted to say "Bloody Agent" (LOL))!!

      sewsexy - 2012-03-01 17:23

      And of course the Sharks are going to beat the Stormers !!

      Mike - 2012-03-01 18:01

      @sewsexy: You must be my cousin from Durb's!?? There are no Sharks anymore? Only guppies!! (LOL)

      Mike - 2012-03-01 18:33

      @ The one (or more) who gave me a thumbs down? At least you tried!!!

      methedex - 2012-03-02 07:20

      SHARKS!!

  • Leon - 2012-03-01 16:53

    Na na na na, na na na na, heh heh heh, goodbye!

      Anthony - 2012-03-01 18:16

      quote-'we are not here to play'--this must be the laugh of the century lollollollollol--- I challenge anyone who supports the ANCYL to name ONE thing the youth league has done in the last year--have they put one loaf of bread on some hungery persons table--me thinks not of course they are here to play --the problem is they have turd brains so they cant even play nicely

  • spartanx93 - 2012-03-01 16:54

    Oh Limpopo ANCYL...... Get over yourselves! You are nothing but a bunch of goons who have nothing better to do that shoult out hollow threats.

      Sharon - 2012-03-01 18:19

      Are they throwing their toys out of the pram?

      Pieter - 2012-03-01 18:51

      @ spartanx93 My friend, you could not be more wrong...........they also commit fraud, persue tenderperneurship, indulge in nepotism, cronyism and many more self enriching activities, other thanshouting and hollow threats.

      Rodney - 2012-03-01 19:07

      someone should try and explain, this IS the end. i say try because these idiots don't seem to understand anything.

  • saschalipka - 2012-03-01 16:55

    What is everybody having for dinner tonight?

      Henri - 2012-03-01 16:57

      PIZZA night and chocolate ice cream !!!!!!

      Robert - 2012-03-01 17:07

      In the morning ... I'm making WAFFLES !!!

      Gregory Jurgens - 2012-03-01 17:11

      Chicken again :-(

      Mike - 2012-03-01 17:21

      Roast with potatoes! All cooked in a potjie of Malemmer!!

      JasonEye - 2012-03-01 17:26

      Beef ravioli! Looking forward to the rugby this weekend...........

      Robert - 2012-03-01 17:28

      @Piet - I dare you to find two of them that are wise

      Assis - 2012-03-01 17:29

      Maybe Nandos...first have to wait for their funny new ad.

      Kai - 2012-03-01 18:10

      I know of someone who wont be having their gravy tonight (unless its KFC gravy lol).

      Piet - 2012-03-01 19:51

      news24 you suck! deleting my comment about a kfc streetwise two, F?

      Assis Pontes - 2012-03-01 22:03

      @ Piet, I think Nandos cleared your comment...they do not appreciatte the letter KFC. Battle of the brands!

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-02 12:18

      as for me... a big bucket of KFC in dishonour of our own fat boy

      Mfudzi - 2012-03-14 16:13

      malema @7

  • Danny - 2012-03-01 16:56

    If there's a fight, at least sell the TV rights to someone

  • Ben - 2012-03-01 16:58

    Like the parents should listen to the children cause they know better ?

  • Amukelani - 2012-03-01 16:58

    This article will be accurate when it states 'some members of the ANCYL in Limpopo......' Do not dramatise these things_we expected his followers to do it, didn't we? So no news there. By the way, i only read the beginning of the article, so please media stop it, we suffered enough.

      Piet - 2012-03-01 17:26

      Torture is more like it....

  • Gordon - 2012-03-01 17:00

    Reminds me of Chemical Ali in the Iraq War. THERE ARE NO AMERICANS IN IRAQ - WE HAVE DESTROYED THEM AT THE BORDER!!! (whilst a Abrams Tanks is rolling up the street behind him) I can see Julius in handcuffs and an orange jump suit the day after all the appeals are over.

      Gordon - 2012-03-01 17:06

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAeMtcURg0

  • Ian - 2012-03-01 17:00

    Do what I want otherwise I'll beat you up.......nothing more than thugs

  • Jan - 2012-03-01 17:03

    Ha ha, this should be good

  • Tinaye - 2012-03-01 17:04

    the drama unfolds...

  • dee.shabalala - 2012-03-01 17:04

    And in other news, the proteas are going for a whitewash in New Zealand this weekend.........

  • dewald.galjaard - 2012-03-01 17:05

    hey! almost time to go home!

  • Den - 2012-03-01 17:07

    maby lasher tools can provide them all with free pangas, stones are free, being there favourite weapon of choice. sasol to provide free petrol, the rest of us normal people are itching to see this fight.

  • eradingoana - 2012-03-01 17:08

    Limpopo 's ANC are suffering from political madness and out the to commit political suicides. Is Malema the first to be expelled? If not, those who were expelled were they not having political support? My province is an embarrassment because it is now creating thugs who are out there without respect..

  • Dan - 2012-03-01 17:10

    anybody know what is on movie magic tonight?

      Johan - 2012-03-01 17:31

      Clash of the titans: ANC vs ANCYL Get some popcorn.

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-02 12:20

      @johan - you meant clash of the jokers. There are no titans there

  • blake.candido - 2012-03-01 17:11

    maybe next time u will vote DA!

  • Mkulisi - 2012-03-01 17:13

    Maybe its time of the DA to takeover now, these guys are actually prepared to fight their own party to the end and destroy it, if needs be.

      Robert - 2012-03-01 17:30

      Nothing new Mkulisi, look at how money and power have corrupted the 'greatest' of Africa's leaders. It's always the same, sad old story.

      Leonard Van Vuuren - 2012-03-01 17:41

      You deserve a Bells for ypur comment !!! Make it a double!

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2012-03-01 17:13

    Burn Tyres and throw bricks. Toyi Toyi on glass sky lights. Looking forward to this childish youth league tantrum.

  • Assis - 2012-03-01 17:15

    Why all the fuss?..If not happy with the party rules, start your own party.

      ronel.cousins - 2012-03-01 18:30

      yes,yes,YES!!!!!PLEASE start your own party!!lol

      Assis Pontes - 2012-03-01 19:24

      They misunderstood the song "You got to fight, for your right, to PAARTY !"

  • Kathy - 2012-03-01 17:15

    As ye sow so shall ye reap. There are non so blind as those that will not see as non so deaf as those that will not hear. Can expect no less than that of uneducated simpletons

  • Piet - 2012-03-01 17:24

    What you did not blame the whites?W

  • adrian.vanwyk - 2012-03-01 17:24

    Where else in the world do we get this kind of entertainment in politics? We have our very own John Stewart in politics all the time! Life certainly isn't boring in this country.

  • Roelof Botha - 2012-03-01 17:26

    Ooh look! A dead bird!

  • guyt1 - 2012-03-01 17:26

    Limp..........

  • Victor - 2012-03-01 17:27

    Fight??? Ha, ha, ha!!!! So funny.

  • ThandaMzansi - 2012-03-01 17:27

    Expel the lot of them too. Who needs a bunch of undisciplined rabble rousing fools anyway?

      Robert - 2012-03-01 17:30

      Yebo yes

      Anthony - 2012-03-01 18:31

      I like your comment thanda---we need to ask a VERY SERIOUS QUESTION?????? what does the ANCYL actually do--what is their purpose, what is their mandate, what is the deliverable this is a VERY SERIOUS QUESTION WE MUST ALL ASK THE ANC --whatever it is they arnt doing it I promise u yes lets disband them-- they ADD NO VALUE WHAT SO EVER

      Mfudzi - 2012-03-14 16:15

      exactly, so they can form their own mother body!

  • Shirley - 2012-03-01 17:28

    You are SO right you are running an organisation-a tsotsi oraganisation. May the end come quick!

  • Leonard - 2012-03-01 17:31

    Bunch of Zots.

  • ana.curcic - 2012-03-01 17:32

    I say, put them all in a "work for food camp"... What's the bet, they will stay hungry and prety soon beg for bread crumps. Bunch of no good for no good.

  • Michelle - 2012-03-01 17:37

    MY PA WAS REG, HULLE GAAN MEKAAR VERWOES OP DIE OU EINDE! BIETJIE LAAT, MAAR EERDER TE LAAT AS NOOIT! WAT N KOMEDIE VAN POLITIEK!

  • schewitz - 2012-03-01 17:38

    they evedently do not have a clue who they are and what they are!!!!! its the ANCyl stupid does the fact that they not separate or independent need to spelled out. For goodness sake wake up you fools. You are part of the anc and are duty bound to respect its decisions. leave start your own party of right wing racist blacks and then do what you want, dont drag the names of mandela and the other struggle heors down with you on your stupid racist campaign.

  • Leonard Van Vuuren - 2012-03-01 17:45

    Eish, still sowing division, u don't listen or hear baba, There are more black and white South Africans standing together for a better land then u and your youth, teach them to respect their elders before they get taught BY the Elders

  • Johan - 2012-03-01 17:45

    Would someone please clarify this for me? Is the ANCYL an opposition party or is it an ANC structure? I am somewhat confused by this. Then again, we are dealing with idiots.

  • Nonku Butelezi - 2012-03-01 17:46

    What revolution?

      Robert - 2012-03-01 18:15

      South Africa has been asking the ANCYL that same question now for about 3 years ... They are so stupid

      ronel.cousins - 2012-03-01 18:31

      i also don't get all that blabber....

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-02 12:30

      @Nonku - exactly my question too...?!? What is this democratic revolution?? They won back in '94?? But my favourite is his new title "comander and chief of economic freedom'

  • paullombard17 - 2012-03-01 17:54

    snorr ....zzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Lerato Magabane - 2012-03-01 17:58

    Yal need to fall back nw really this turning into an embarrassment...Malema's Idiot n yal r letting him drag u down with...hooligans

      Robert - 2012-03-01 18:15

      That's the trouble with common sense Lerato, it's not that common

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-03-01 18:01

    I really don't wish to disrupt the lack of attention shown to this 'Breaking News'(the possible war in Limpopo)LOL..But I was interest to know whether Malema is now off the Govnerment payroll(our tax money), as he is now unemployed by the state.?

  • Wayne - 2012-03-01 18:02

    Never thought i would see the day when i would support a decision of the ANC, but the decision to expel Malema is one i commend them for, even if it is a decision which took them forever to make, and probably only because they were left with no better alternatives. So Juju and co, why not start your own political party and contest the next elections, huh?

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-02 12:32

      Aaaaah good question Wayne. The answer is quite simple. Its because they still have a chance to appeal the final appeal from the first appeal which obviously will lead to the last and final appeal of the first appeal... Personally i think theancyl is a banana peel

  • Johan Grobbelaar - 2012-03-01 18:09

    Wait? Is this that bankrupt little province? Lol. It figures. Economic ruin in our lifetime. Viva! :D

  • gennath - 2012-03-01 18:12

    Hope they don't stay up past their bed time.

  • Sylvia - 2012-03-01 18:22

    Be afraid, be very afraid. The children are throwing their toys out of the cot again. ;)

  • schalkjburger - 2012-03-01 18:25

    blablablabla...yarra yarra yarra...noise noise noise...

  • clivegoss - 2012-03-01 18:32

    They cannot "mobilize" anything in Pimlopo all the roads have dissapeared, therefor walking is the only safe way to mobilize

  • Ali - 2012-03-01 18:35

    " We are not here to play, we are running an organisation" No one can answer me.. What are they doing, or rather, what are they supposed to do other than being a gang funded by taxpayers?

      heinrich.crouse - 2012-03-02 02:20

      I have it in good confidence that they have meetings, Ali. There they discuss the latest trends in paramilitary uniforms and write simple songs. The next T-shirt face is decided upon, and bulk orders are placed with foreign suppliers. Then they celebrate their achievements with fine whiskey, throw chairs around and do wheel-spins and sometimes doughnuts with their German cars . It's all very Klassy.

  • Ngcebo Mkhwanazi - 2012-03-01 18:36

    shut up already you fools, the branches are not going to save this demagogue, the ANC can not be held hostage by you thugs!!!

  • mike.clery - 2012-03-01 18:40

    I wonder what part of *ANC* youth league they don't understand? If they don't want to follow the ANC's membership rules, they can draft a constitution, create a new organisation and give it any name they want to (other than ANC-anything). Are they really that stupid?

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-02 12:34

      yes

  • sidney.gilroy - 2012-03-01 18:40

    The real losers in this are the one`s who secretly backed him. NUM, Lindiwe Sisulu, Winnie Mandela, Tokyo Sexwale, Monthlante...dare one say Mbeki...I am sure they are sitting in a caucus tonight wondering how the hell JZ outplayed, outwitted and outlasted them. They can either abandon Malema and fall back in line and pray JZ has a space for them in his new cabinet...or they can bring the fight out into the open now. If there is one thing you must realise about African Politics - one can NEVER admit wrongdoing or defeat. Apartheid wasn`t ended by the struggle or the ANC. It was ended by a bankrupt state and pressure from the western front. The ANC was just fortunate enough to be the main significant other in the game. As an african politician... rather you must harbour a grudge...cling to power...and look for common enemies or create them to garner the support of allies. You must also be willing to sell your own mother down the river to reach that goal. So Malema, I am sorry to say old chap...seems you fell victim to your own game. And don`t for one second think the previous government did it any differently. Don`t cry though...thats how it is done the world over. Welcome to international politics and shame on you for thinking SA exists in a bubble outside the rest of the world.

  • jerry.pres - 2012-03-01 18:50

    Who is Malema?