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Malema: Guilty as charged

2012-02-04 15:41

Johannesburg -  Guilty as charged.

This was the verdict of the ANC’s appeals committee in the case of Julius Malema and his top four lieutenants, announced at Luthuli House on Saturday.

The National Disciplinary Committee of Appeal (NDCA), led by ANC NEC member Cyril Ramaphosa, told journalists that all the charges against Malema are being upheld.

The decision was communicated to the youth league shortly before making it public, he said.

Malema’s only reprieve is that he will be able to go back to the ruling party’s disciplinary committee and ask for a lesser sentence.

But this is a political gamble, because the ANC may then appeal for a harsher sentence, which may increase the number of years that Malema will be suspended from the ANC.

The disciplinary committee suspended him for five years, but he can technically now be kicked out of the ANC straight away because he was threatened with suspension in 2010 as well.

At the time, the disciplinary committee told Malema if he was to be found guilty again within the following two years he would be kicked out of the ANC.

This time around Malema was charged with sowing divisions for comparing president Jacob Zuma to former president Thabo Mbeki as well as for propagating regime-change in Botswana, both of which go against the constitution of the ANC.

The only charge that was dropped by the appeals’ committee was a minor one – when Malema and his co-leaders in the ANC Youth League top five barged into a meeting of the ANC’s top six officials.

Ramaphosa said there was no evidence they did this “deliberately”.

Appeal

He said that Malema and his team will have two weeks to prepare arguments to present their case to the National Disciplinary Committee (NDC).

In his statement Ramaphosa had harsh words for Malema’s appeal attempt.

Using words like “ridiculous” and “absurd” to describe Malema’s grounds for appeal, Ramaphosa made it clear his committee had little regard for Malema’s complaints.

A separate charge against the ANCYL secretary-general Sindiso Magaqa was upheld. Magaqa publicly insulted former ANCYL president and current minister of public enterprises Malusi Gigaba.

The charge against Malema’s right-hand man, Floyd Shivambu, was also upheld – he insulted a journalist by telling him to “fuck off”.

- City Press

Comments
  • Alva - 2012-02-04 15:49

    Malema & Co should quit while they are ahead. Catch the hint already, shut up and go away. We are all sick to death of you!

      Mutsila - 2012-02-04 18:12

      Am not, I still want them, buhahahahahahaha!

  • Penny-wise - 2012-02-04 15:51

    HAHAHA, WHAT A LOSER !!! BAWAHAHAHA, go ANC, kick the youth ROT out !!!

      rbphiri - 2012-02-04 16:10

      With that weight, I can say without hyperbole that his South Africa's biggest loser...excuse the pun

      Roland - 2012-02-04 18:38

      I think Thabo's had one too many, just like the better known Thabo. I think I'll have a drink on him and his 'beloved' juju. He's not a troll, he's just mellow!!!

  • Bennie - 2012-02-04 15:56

    I think Malema , now is the time for you to wake up to the big world of politics , I think your political views are very appealing to the avg ANC Loot League guy sitting under a tree doing sweet F&^% - ALL. Why dont dont you bunch of A$$Holes make your own political party and press your own agenda?? I bet you you dont have the balls !!

      Penny-wise - 2012-02-04 16:06

      That's the best idea I've heard all year. Let's see how many they can recruit to their political party. I hope the ANC kick him and his idiots out FOR GOOD! Leave them on the streets and see if they can achieve anything instead of just riding on the name of the ANC.

      rbphiri - 2012-02-04 16:06

      With that mammoth waist, even if he had the balls he wouldnt see them.

      Mutsila - 2012-02-04 18:19

      No, bt you bennie have balls big ones I think, y don't u start ur own party of Gud educated pple

  • Frank - 2012-02-04 16:00

    Now he can join ZANUPF.And good bye for ever

      Mutsila - 2012-02-04 18:22

      No frank join ZANUPF, u make a Gud cde

      Roland - 2012-02-04 18:39

      Keep on drinking Thab's...mmmmmmanlekker!!!!!

      braamc - 2012-02-04 18:56

      @Thabo. Some inside info my boy, SARS etc almost done, you can go suck Juliass off in jail, not too long

      Thabo - 2012-02-04 19:15

      Hahahahaha Braam. Any special requests for the agency tonight? Want him in drag?

  • Deeteem - 2012-02-04 16:02

    And where do all guilty as charged, corrupt ANC officials go to when sentenced ........ HOSPITAL !!!

      robqb - 2012-02-04 19:58

      S.F.T!

  • Craig - 2012-02-04 16:16

    Amazing news. Now please can sars do an audit on this pathetic individual.

  • Hang - 2012-02-04 16:21

    He is funny because he is fat... Put my faith back to South Africa politician's logic by a small margin. Going down to the pub and gonna buy random people beers to celebrate tonight!

      Penny-wise - 2012-02-04 16:27

      See you there Hang !!! Let's celebrate this victory for South African democracy. DOWN THE THE ANCYL, DOWN WITH MILITANT TROUBLEMAKERS, DOWN THE MALEMA AND F...KING FLOYD

      Lance - 2012-02-04 18:19

      Like !! A Lot less stressfull!! Something new on the Sunday papers for a change ! (After tomorrow!! LOL)

  • Philip - 2012-02-04 16:26

    It was the only clear way. He deserved everything that fell upon that 'knucklehead' of his. If he had been found not guilty, it would have been a very dark day for this country. Hopefully the rest of the corrupt officials feeding at the trough will be tried in a court of law and sent away. What a wonderful day that would be...

  • Chappies ZA - 2012-02-04 16:30

    Lekker man lekker ... Only in SA

  • General.AlanMuller - 2012-02-04 16:42

    I don't usually Drink !!! but to night Im having 3 or 4 !!!

      Mutsila - 2012-02-04 17:57

      U r rotten

  • Zelda - 2012-02-04 16:47

    Thabo great news. Starve. That will be you out of the way. Careful. You will be doing a lot of black woman without jobs. Do you want them to starve with you.

  • Hugo - 2012-02-04 16:56

    shame fat one , never rains but pours

  • Jayson - 2012-02-04 17:11

    about time

  • Jayson - 2012-02-04 17:11

    about time

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-02-04 17:20

    Meanwhile Floyd Shivambu has already moved onto bigger an better things or is it little things ? He and his lady are expecting yet another bundle of joy 8 months after they welcomed their 1st. So long Floyd , make love and not war

  • Syd - 2012-02-04 17:24

    Thabo, others might correct their grammar when you correct your spelling. What you meant to write about Juliarse,s bones is spelt "STEEL", not steal. STEAL is what you do when you take what is not yours. Hmmm, maybe it is appropriate to use it in the context of someone who wanted to take the mines and ruin them.

      Thabo - 2012-02-04 17:26

      Yes I know Syd. Don't be so serious. It was purposely misspelled. Laugh a bit and have fun!

      Heather - 2012-02-04 17:35

      Thabo. Go away. You are ridiculous. Every time you make a stupid comment, you pretend to be joking. You are a joke.

      Thabo - 2012-02-04 17:45

      And you own News24 Heather?

      Heather - 2012-02-04 19:03

      Are you bored Thabo. Nobody owns news24. Not even you, you moron.

      Adriana - 2012-02-06 13:09

      sorry for being late again Regard Regret

  • Syd - 2012-02-04 17:32

    I think Thabo is writing tongue-in-cheek. No one can be so doff as to keep referring to Malema as "my leader" and say he will starve for him. Clearly Thabo is educated so he can't be doff. Remember Thabo, that Malema couldn't lead an expedition into his own back yard let alone lead anyone else. He is the kind of bloke that people only follow out of morbid curiosity and would be out of his depth in a parking lot puddle.

  • Heather - 2012-02-04 17:33

    Now all we have to do is get rid of Thabo.

  • edandchris - 2012-02-04 18:12

    Thabo is pulling your chain people

  • william - 2012-02-04 18:14

    IF I SEE ONE MORE REPORT ON THAT FAT MALEMA IM GOING TO GO MAD. HIS JUST NOT WORTH ALL THIS AIRTIME AND T.V REPORTING.

      Hugo - 2012-02-04 18:36

      Willie,dont flatter him now

  • msekete1 - 2012-02-04 18:26

    gOOD cALL

  • Stoney - 2012-02-04 18:27

    @Assis, he will still affort that house because he will, like all the other scorsed anc comrades, receive his salary for the 5 years

  • Jan - 2012-02-04 18:46

    Now I wonder if Julius will play dead or will this the beginning of a new political party?

  • chris.khanye - 2012-02-04 18:55

    It's not Malema that makes the ANC, but the ANC that made Malema. No individual shall be bigger than the ANC or any credible formation - the big elephant simply crushed the little menace.

      marcanthonytaylor - 2012-02-05 23:19

      since when is Julius little?

  • mmatloa - 2012-02-04 18:57

    Let's hope that he will go back to the ruling party’s disciplinary committee and ask for a lesser sentence and continue with his political career. We really need such kind of people in the country

      Riaan Werner Van Wyk - 2012-02-04 19:28

      Whatever you are smoking is hindering your ability to think..

      Nyiks11 - 2012-02-04 19:51

      @Mmatloa , there is an element of truth in that a person like Julius is needed , he raises issues that others can only murmur about . . unfortunately for him he scares and irritates a lot of people in the process

      Schalk Jonker - 2012-02-04 21:20

      jys seker deel van die skelm se planne. gaan join hom in die tronk waar jul hoort

  • peterjohnjnb - 2012-02-04 19:07

    Mugabe on the verge of death, Juju fired all in one week!! I have not uttered these words in over a decade but here they come..... THANK YOU JESUS!

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-02-04 19:32

    Next trick in the bag - Juju is going to ask Cyril Ramaphosa and Jeff Radebe to recuse themselves from the NDCA proceedings , they both have interests in mining and according to him would be biased against him on the nationalisation issue . Eventually there would be nobody willing or suitable to hear his case .Just a thought

      lana.vdwesthuizen - 2012-02-04 22:36

      You get thumbs down because ppl dont' really understand what you are saying ;-) Your predictions are most prob right. *Sigh* 'n Regte "kannie dood" van die mense ne? Robert just don't want to go and Juju will start looking under every rock for any reason he can use to justify his conduct. I bet he never got enough hidings as a child and back-chatted his parents - he has no respect for ANY authority.

      Nyiks11 - 2012-02-04 22:55

      A lot of people do not know background information on some of the anc top brass , I don't expect such people to understand my assumptions

  • KCorsar - 2012-02-04 19:36

    Now lets see if he is arrogant enough to rile the wrathe of the ANC NEC even further by appealing this outcome and they exercise their threat of complete explusion. So look forward to this pig headed moron taking this route and being cast into the dark forever. SA doesnt need 'activists' like this in a democratic country. Now can the ANCYL be rebuilt to PROACTIVELY work towards developing the youth of SA.

  • Joe - 2012-02-04 19:46

    Cowards like to comment. Malema has done it all and yes he has failed, so what.It does affect my life

  • maghdim - 2012-02-04 20:00

    Floyd, floyd, jou storie is uit!!

  • lishen.nair - 2012-02-04 20:40

    I think one thing we need to remember is that Julius was suspended by the ANC not because he was sowing division in the ANC or making hate speech, but because he stepped on Zuma's toes. If he didn't aggravate Zuma, I bet the ANC wouldn't have had this hearing. Malema messed with Zuma, Zuma pulled strings and initiated this disciplinary hearing. Zuma was content to leave Julius to do his bidding up until very recently. This was a politically driven move, it wasn't done for justice or the common good of South Africans. While we can be happy with the result, let's not fool ourselves that the ANC did this in the interests of South Africa or good prevailing over evil.

  • SirFGrumpy - 2012-02-04 20:55

    Now lets find out how much he stole from the Limpopo province and jail him.

  • Andrew - 2012-02-04 21:04

    Thabo before you tell RPhiri to correct his grammar you need to correct your spelling, it is 'steel' and not 'steal',now who needs to go back to school. What happened to Malema is called 'chickens coming home to roost'. I hate racists, whether black or white. @Phiri you're so funny, your comments always make me laugh!

  • Johnson - 2012-02-04 21:30

    I challenge Malema to start his own political party, interesting to see how much support Malema really has for his revolutionary ideas - that will be the real test

  • Janine - 2012-02-04 21:33

    Previously one would have been held up for treason and hung. Lucky boy!

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-02-04 21:51

    @Thabo...and the very few Malema supports on this page... Malema is the most undisiplined,uneducated, anc youth leader they have ever had, this puts you in the same bracket as him if you blindly standup for him. There are possibly 100+ against the man...and less than+-6 for him.. the numbers tell you everything.

  • Perfume5 - 2012-02-04 22:04

    2012 has started off on a very good note. I don't think Malema and Shivambu expected such an outcome.

  • Youvenn - 2012-02-04 23:43

    Wow ANC showing some balls here. Agree or disagree with the party this is a major step for them to take against such a popular figure

  • Kerry Lee McLaren - 2012-02-05 00:27

    Everyone thinks that this country revolves around our government....it actually revolves around our gold and diamonds and maybe CHICKEN.....bwahahahahahaha

  • Kerry Lee McLaren - 2012-02-05 00:49

    GUILTY as CHARGED...what part of that do you not understand....??? NO DEBATE HERE

  • kgosi.otimile - 2012-02-05 02:55

    I'm as happy as ever, i see the ANC they are just playing mabbles with the young man, when they upheld and gave this boy and the crew mitigation reprieve. ANC kicked out this guy since from on set... Now they are just checking his ego how far he can go...Lol I'm tired of this boi for real...!!!

  • Steve - 2012-02-05 08:08

    Thabo, Thabo Thabo...there are some people that do not get that you are fun of this HOLE story. Obviously JuJu has bones of steal...more like he steals the bones right? I have read most of your comments and cant stop laughing at them. That is a wicked sense of humor you have there

  • Irene - 2012-02-05 09:28

    He is going to look so good in his orange suit, designer label reads SA Prison Services! Waiting in anticipation for SARS to do a big fat audit on Fatboy Dof!

  • gauchet1 - 2012-02-05 12:37

    Now eat cake young lion, your meat is not sponsored any more!

  • albie.mwansa - 2012-02-05 13:57

    Ah Shame Juluis you were misdirected. Try again next time, I'm sure this time you will come up with a more thought threw strategy of approaching the solution to the PDI's and currently marginalised persons of this economy.

  • marcanthonytaylor - 2012-02-05 23:08

    Ridiculous and absurd seems to suit Mr Malema quite well.

  • Cristina - 2012-02-06 05:54

    Ahhh at least some good news for once!!!

  • Jay - 2012-02-06 10:29

    well i hope 5 years is long enough for Julius to go back to class and improve his wood work skills!!!! what a toss!!!!

  • Jay - 2012-02-06 10:32

    hey Thabo, did you also get a GG for standard grade wood work in matric??? well done bru

  • E=MC2 - 2012-02-06 12:04

    I Appeal!! - Yes Malema... you are :)