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Malema, Shivambu must say sorry to Zille

2012-06-14 15:28

Cape Town - Former ANCYL leader Julius Malema and spokesperson Floyd Shivambu were ordered on Thursday to apologise to Western Cape Premier Helen Zille.

This stemmed from defamatory comments they made about her, said Zille's spokesperson, Zak Mbhele.

The two, along with the youth league, were also ordered to retract the remarks they made in 2009, and pay Zille's legal fees.

Attorney Amanda Torr said the order was handed down by Western Cape High Court Judge Lee Bozalek in a closed chamber session.

Zille said she was very happy with the settlement.

"These court orders are a victory for constitutional democracy and the norms that the law sets out in terms of defamation," she said.

"There is no room for unfounded defamatory statements in our society and this ruling upholds that in clear and strong terms. Politics must be about issues, not gratuitous and baseless insults."

Zille initially wanted to sue Malema, Shivambu and the league for R1.4m.

She said Shivambu had called her a "racist girl" and "sick woman" and claimed that her all-male executive were her boyfriends and concubines.

She also took issue with Malema calling her executive council a "group of racist Helen Zille garden boys" at a rally in Cato Manor, Durban, in February 2009.

At the same rally, he apparently referred to her as a "racist", "colonialist" and "imperialist".

In a special plea document, Malema stated that he and Zille were both public figures and thus engaged in public debates.

Comments
  • grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-06-14 15:33

    Helen 1238 Malema 0

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-06-14 15:44

      GOOD !!! These little ANCYL tsotsis MUST ALL apologise to the DA and the whole of South Africa for spreading racial tension in our democracy !!! DOWN WITH THE ANCYL TSOTIS, DOWN !!!

      spartanx93 - 2012-06-14 15:45

      prepare to meet your MADAM!!! hahahahah!

      eil33nn - 2012-06-14 15:51

      What a bitter pill to swallow, hey malema? *chuckles*

      david.b.mcfarlane - 2012-06-14 15:58

      Hau Medam, sooorrreee neh!

      Squeegee - 2012-06-14 16:10

      Fat chance. He will appeal. He has no respect for court decisions.

      Travis - 2012-06-14 16:14

      I love seeing Malema recieving the humiliation he deserves!

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-06-14 16:35

      GOOD....GOOD....WHEN YOU SHOOT YOUR MOUTH WITH OUT THINKING OF THE CONSEQUENCES...IT WILL COME BACK AND....BITE YOU.

      thozi - 2012-06-14 16:37

      Until Malema apologises: Don't listen to Malema, don't listen. Don't listen to Malema, don't listen...

      John - 2012-06-14 17:34

      @mnbain: No, it is hardly a pointless exercise. We are trying to introduce some level of civility into our politics that will allow issues to be tackled. Parliament has become a circus where representatives of the people get personal with each other and forget the very reason they are there to begin with, ergo, to represent and resolve issues in our society. This is the practical side of the arguement On a moral side of the arguement, which could be debated ad infinitum depending on which culture you're from, these politicians, being representatives of the people, bare the responsibility of leading by example. They are meant to be chosen because they represent the best and epitome' of their respective parties. ( having said this, I shudder to think Malema represents the best of Ancyl's substance) . If our leaders insult each other, it sends a message to followers that 1. It is ok to do so, and 2. This is how problems are resolved. How far can we get in working together, albeit from differing opinions, if we just insult each other?

      julian.booyens - 2012-06-14 17:45

      @sizah...thats a crap TV that you watch on....

      Jellyarse - 2012-06-14 19:53

      Yes but Mrs Zilla's going to have to stand in a queue for her apology behind all the people who want their money, rent, kickbacks, or anything else.Viva ANCYL and all who sail in her!

      GrootWitHaai - 2012-06-15 07:53

      I LOVE IT!! Now the tables are turned on the arrogant ones.

      Vince.York - 2012-06-16 07:21

      zuma who has incited all this racism and BS sat on the same stages and podiums WITH this creep chortling and snortling and sniggering when these events happened AND DID NOTHING & SAID NOTHING because it suited him and expressed his own mindset clearly?????????????? Far worse than the terrible little YL thieves in our minds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • smili.fication - 2012-06-14 15:34

    I LOLOLOLAT Malema must pay up! ANC must pay! "In a special plea document, Malema stated that he and Zille were both public figures and thus engaged in public debates." Public debates my ass, Malema doesnt know how to debate, he is nothing more than a ANC CONDOM COMRADE!

      Stirrer - 2012-06-14 16:05

      Malema is a pubic figure. He's a d@@s.

      Bomb - 2012-06-14 17:09

      funny, can remember him turning down all invitations to public debates by helen and lindiwe........lol...hehehehe

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-06-14 20:35

      aristar.....would that maybe be...COCKROACHI...LOL

  • Wimpie.Haefele - 2012-06-14 15:36

    There is a difference between a public debate and spewing cr@p, Malema and ANCYL will never know the difference

      E=MC2 - 2012-06-14 15:39

      they spew what they're full of ;)

      aristar.aristary - 2012-06-14 17:38

      What is the collective noun for a group of cockroaches? A Youth League

  • E=MC2 - 2012-06-14 15:37

    hows THAT for a bitter pill to swallow! :-) nice!

  • johan.fowler.1 - 2012-06-14 15:37

    Malema, repeat after me: "Sorry Madame"

      Danny - 2012-06-14 15:45

      ROFLMFAO!!

      FirstSeed - 2012-06-14 15:49

      I strongly doubt he will open his mouth on this one.

  • Danny - 2012-06-14 15:39

    Geez man. When are the ANC, its cadres (current or otherwise) and alliance partners going to learn that their performance in court these days is just a bloody embarrassment for them?? Well, I guess it's entertaining for the rest of us. Every other week they're coming out of there with a blood nose. :)

  • ben.louw.5 - 2012-06-14 15:39

    Hopefully that will shut the child's mouth...

  • thulanit3 - 2012-06-14 15:41

    South Africa must grow up,,,politic must be politic, not going around hauling insults on other politicians who do not hold their views ,,,these simply promote intolerance and further divide us,,,we need leaders who pursue unity and social cohesion,,,!

      Bomb - 2012-06-14 17:10

      you the man!!!!!!!!!!! have a ice cold one on me.

      michael.kleber.376 - 2012-06-15 07:33

      well said thulanit i agree 200 %

  • sean.noble1 - 2012-06-14 15:41

    excellent i wonder if we can now sue cosatu for call us colonialist, imperialists.

  • WitWolf - 2012-06-14 15:41

    "The two, along with the youth league, were also ordered to retract the remarks they made in 2009, and pay Zille's legal fees" Seems like the whirlpool for Malema is just getting stronger and stronger... Blinde Sambok vir jou boetie....

  • luyolo.c.nqakula - 2012-06-14 15:43

    Zille has a long history of making racialy deragotory terms, she has never been forced to apologise, the courts still favour the minority and that is sad, isn't it Zille has a cabinet which is predominatly white? What happend to the reflection of the demographics of our country? Fact is Zille runs the westerncape in a racist and imperialist manner, you should not apologise gents

      Danny - 2012-06-14 15:49

      Yes. Please give us examples?

      smili.fication - 2012-06-14 15:50

      luyolo.c.nqakula - You are sad idiot individual. She has never been found guilty because she has never committed a crime.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-06-14 16:01

      Whatever moron. Why would the people (majority coloured and black) vote her in then? Have you been to CT lately? Tax payers money is actually spent on improving the city, service delivery and public transport. They have a clean audit for years in a row. And she was awarded BEST MAYOR IN THE WORLD. Show me ANY ANC person besides Madiba that has achieved anything close to this.

      jruppersberg - 2012-06-14 16:06

      Luyolo... Another unschooled ANCYL supporter... Poor thing...

      david.baker.sa - 2012-06-14 16:07

      Thanks for the examples ? (long history my ^&^) How could the court request this if Malema has failed to prove it in court? So you are claiming the court should order something when no-one has asked the court to do so?

      Christopher - 2012-06-14 16:07

      Luyolo.... how can you possibly say "what happened to the reflection of the demographics"? firstly, your and idiot, secondly look at the current government! THANKS BYE RETARD!

      joe.farmer.92775 - 2012-06-14 16:16

      sorry luyolo, still no pills for stupidity

      Phae - 2012-06-14 16:21

      What you're saying has nothing to do with the case. I'm sure they won't apologise, but at least the legal costs will hurt them, and many of us are very happy they have been put in their place once again! You guys are wasting the courts time, name calling and lies are things your parents should have taught you not to do at home when you were kids, how embarrassing and expensive to have to be taught by a Judge! Try and learn to differentiate between politics and personal attacks, a bit of emotional intelligence will help.

      Kevin - 2012-06-14 16:22

      a long history - can you mention any racial term..?

      Kenna - 2012-06-14 16:28

      Prove it. A bing search will show me pages of ANC inanity and illegality. Can't see anything on Zille or DA

      Danny - 2012-06-14 16:39

      @ThinkChick...bing hey? A discerning thinkchick at that. :)

      Alfred - 2012-06-14 17:39

      C'mon Luyolo, it's been 2 hours. We're still waiting for you to back up your BS with something vaguely resembling a fact.

      Tony - 2012-06-14 18:15

      I see there are no examples forthcoming.

      michael.kleber.376 - 2012-06-15 07:34

      Luyolo don't you think its time we look past colour , isn't that what the struggle was all about

      leijn.tissink - 2012-06-15 07:39

      now 15 June .We are still waiting for examples!!!

      DarrenCooper68 - 2012-06-15 10:51

      Good question Luyolo. "What happend to the reflection of the demographics of our country" Lets look for that reflection you mention in Parliament, State Enterprises or any other state institution. It aint there. Lets not make stupid statements without thinking

      indianajohn - 2012-06-15 15:00

      And still we wait for luyolo to give us some examples. He won't because he can't. That's what all these clueless ANC supporters do. They make sweeping statements based on nothing and then run away.

      Pierre - 2012-06-16 16:16

      Ai tog. Nothing better to say than making up non-related racist crap.

  • Bryan - 2012-06-14 15:43

    When are these braindead fools going to realize that Helen Zille is or never has been the enemy?? I mean do you have to paint them a picture by numbers....Really, I mean WTF!!!

      Allan - 2012-06-14 17:25

      Zille is from the DA - the enemy was the NATS who have merged with the ANC. The DA was born from the Progressive Federal Party and they from the Progressive Party and they in turn from the United Party who stopped governing South Africa in 1948. From 1948 to 1994 they fought the Apartheid system as opposition party remember Helen Suzman ......?

      aristar.aristary - 2012-06-14 17:39

      What is the collective noun for a group of cockroaches? A Youth League

  • Hermann - 2012-06-14 15:48

    Love Malema's comment. It shows the absence of brain power in no uncertain terms.

  • Phillip du Plessis - 2012-06-14 15:50

    Guys... Dubula did not also insult Zille! Read carefully... he was quoting the exact words the ANCYL was using. Quoting, cause the article didn't use the words of the ANCYL... Say sorry to Dubula.

      smili.fication - 2012-06-14 15:57

      Trust me- If you read and comment here often enough, you know he is insulting her... NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO A IDIOTIC TROLL!

      Clara - 2012-06-14 16:07

      I also thought that he was actualy quoting what Messrs. M and co said, not insulting mrs. Z

      smili.fication - 2012-06-14 16:13

      Nope, he is ANTI ZUMA, ANTI ZILLE AND DA, and PRO MALEMA AND ANC...

  • obadia.segwape - 2012-06-14 15:51

    how old is helen zille

      E=MC2 - 2012-06-14 16:00

      your point being?

      patankecedrick.cedrick - 2012-06-14 16:05

      It's childish right?

      Phillys - 2012-06-14 16:06

      this is News24 not Wikipedia, your'e on the wrong website.

      Bomb - 2012-06-14 17:14

      take your IQ and multiply by 4.........

      Ditoa-re - 2012-06-14 18:30

      Old enough to change your napkin

  • Antipoaching - 2012-06-14 15:52

    "In a special plea document, Malema stated that he and Zille were both public figures and thus engaged in public debates." The word "debate" implies logic and some sort of factual basis upon which each participant builds his or her argument Mr Malema, what you and your cohort uttered was illogical, racist, sexist, misogynist drivel

  • mnbain - 2012-06-14 15:56

    When you order someone to say sorry, the words are hollow and without any meaning. What a pointless exercise

      Danny - 2012-06-14 16:01

      I think the fact that they are forced to admit they are wrong, even when they believe otherwise is a bigger win. Just the fact that they hate themselves saying it is worth it for me. :)

      John - 2012-06-14 17:32

      No, it is hardly a pointless exercise. We are trying to introduce some level of civility into our politics that will allow issues to be tackled. Parliament has become a circus where representatives of the people get personal with each other and forget the very reason they are there to begin with, ergo, to represent and resolve issues in our society. This is the practical side of the arguement On a moral side of the arguement, which could be debated ad infinitum depending on which culture you're from, these politicians, being representatives of the people, bare the responsibility of leading by example. They are meant to be chosen because they represent the best and epitome' of their respective parties. ( having said this, I shudder to think Malema represents the best of Ancyl's substance) . If our leaders insult each other, it sends a message to followers that 1. It is ok to do so, and 2. This is how problems are resolved. How far can we get in working together, albeit from differing opinions, if we just insult each other?

      Tony - 2012-06-14 18:20

      the fact that they have to pay the legal fees is victory enough!

  • Kyle - 2012-06-14 15:59

    before people have read further than the title of this article, they have already summed it up in terms of race. Because hellen zille is a white leader, she is dismissed by half the nation. These people are the racists. These thugs were ordered to apologise because they are racist. Outright racists spewing hate speech not only at hellen, but all whites. Hellen's comments about 'refugee', and 'nonsense' in parliament are all taken out of context to try and prove she is racist. Its a desperate attempt to bring down probably the best city mayor since 94. I mean she beat the anc. And now there is bitterness towards her. Grow up SA.

      michael.rampatla - 2012-06-14 16:04

      May u need to tell your child if u got, why black majority are poor and white minority are rich, and u tell them where did u got all the wealth. Why blacks lives in shacks and u got a mention house

      Danny - 2012-06-14 16:08

      "Because hellen zille is a white leader, she is dismissed by half the nation." Half? Methinks you are underestimating the problem chap.

      Kyle - 2012-06-14 16:11

      @michael obviously before white people arrived here, the only wealth was cattle. So without white people, there would be no wealth. The country only recently ended apartheid, and is still amending the abuse of black people. The majority of the country is black, so obviously most of the poor will be black too, and whites, having created the countries infrastructure are obviously closely knit with it, where as some black people still live out in the hills. By choice. There are so few white people in the country compared to black, but post apartheid, we are trying to share the wealth, and obviously it is a missively complicated thing to do.

      Rob - 2012-06-14 16:11

      michael...Perhaps it is what it is, due to whites having been more advanced & CREATING more opportunities for wealth. There is only so much one can do with cattle after all.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-06-14 16:14

      Same old story ne michael? when you realize you have to work for what you want your living conditions will change buddy as easy as that.

      Tankiso Mogoje - 2012-06-14 16:37

      Beat the ANC where?and when mam?Maybe I've been reading the wrong newspapers.

      Alaina - 2012-06-14 17:29

      Gee Danny isn't your comment a little harsh? You act like YOU invented the wheel yourself. And its not like white people were born with the knowledge (how to build, create, etc) either. You really make it sound like black people are stupid, when really there are incredibly clever and intelligent black people.

      lynette.pretorius1 - 2012-06-15 14:12

      @michael - maybe the minority of whites is "richer" because they actually work for a living and go to school and don't toy toy every other day for free handouts. The minority of whites who is the majority of taxpayers can only do so much.

  • Clara - 2012-06-14 16:05

    Ouch for having to eat humbe pie?

  • johann.visser.98 - 2012-06-14 16:08

    att sekwati, it is not about black or white typical.It is about the anc history of corruption and steal and no economic growth as what it should be,anc has a bad reputation and that is that.

      somikazi.pita - 2012-06-14 16:55

      Oh please...it is always about Black and White. When Zille called Black people in the Western Cape refugees, you lot agreed with her.\r\n\r\n You see I never liked Malema, I actually thought he was very disrespectful and annoying, but I bet the majority of Black youth miss and want him back.\r\nZuma is trying to make sure he gets rid of him, but he will not be a president forever...You better be ready.

      Bomb - 2012-06-14 17:40

      somikazi....so what do you call people fleeing an area where there is a threat to their existence in search for safety and a better life in another part of a country????? In the eastern cape people are basically fleeing because the standard of life, schooling, health care, infrastructure, service delivery and rife corruption etc are a threat to their existence. As far as I know, then you are a refugee. So where was she wrong?

      Bomb - 2012-06-14 17:41

      ...and why are they fleeing to the WC, and not KZN, Gauteng, Free State etc??? Doesn't that make you think.

  • colin.pridgeon.7 - 2012-06-14 16:08

    Good shot Helen

  • colin.langley - 2012-06-14 16:10

    When i read the usual e-troll comments it kind of makes my blood boil. They are so quick at slapping down anybody who is trying to make this country work. If we dare question the ANC or ANCYL leadership qualities(sic)we are called colonialists etc etc. How quick to bite the hand that feeds you. Helen Zille fought for a free democratic country which give YOU...yes YOU e-trolls the freedom to disagree or agree. She uncovered the death of Biko through her investigations as a journalist, putting her life on the line for YOU. You also have the temerity to insult Desmond Tutu when he speaks the truth. I'm surprised you have not insulted Mandela, Thambo and Hani. You show no respect. I wish they would bring corporal punishment back so they can bend over the proverbial knee and give you a damn good hiding!

      Tony Lapson - 2012-06-14 16:15

      "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -Isaac Asimov

      colin.langley - 2012-06-14 16:23

      Awesome

      Danny - 2012-06-14 16:23

      @Tony That is a fantastic quote. I used to read Asimov a lot as a kid. I should get back into it.

      somikazi.pita - 2012-06-14 16:40

      Who's they? Do you mean Black people? Who is trying to make this country work? People like you?

      colin.langley - 2012-06-14 17:02

      Somakazi...it's not rocket science and please stop insulting my intelligence. Black people...like YOU!..I'm tired of political correctness....i am trying to make this a better country! But i am sick to death of being told that i am not welcome just because i am white. The truth hurts...

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-06-15 12:04

      @Bearpup Sad how you expected the likes of these two to understand what you said *le sigh...

  • sithembisopa.phewa - 2012-06-14 16:10

    this was a politically verbal fight do we really need to use court evrytime.

      Phae - 2012-06-14 17:39

      No it wasn't, read it again carefully and mnaybe you will be able to undrerstand what the case was about.

  • mapudieric.morakiwamachacha - 2012-06-14 16:12

    whneva the name 'malema' is mentioned, whites shrink, yet they claim nt 2 hv interest in wht he says or does. Jst check these comments, they r the ones commenting. Actually 'malema' is more popular amongst whites thn any other race.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-06-14 16:16

      Have you heard of the term keep your friend close and your enemies closer?

      smili.fication - 2012-06-14 16:20

      Blah hahaha! We love Malema! We love commenting on, laughing at him and we love knowing he is an idiot!

      Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-06-14 16:39

      We are actually laughing at all of your ignorant comrades. Comments

      Alfred - 2012-06-14 17:03

      We should actually show Malema some gratitude, he has united Afrikaans and English speaking white South Africans like never before. That's the only good thing he has ever done, ever, and he didn't even do it intentionally.

      Bomb - 2012-06-14 17:58

      You are right, absolutely right.....he is my mentor. He is the shining example of how I would NOT want to be. Dumb, stupid, racist, material chasing, corrupt lying fat idiot! Now sue me.

      Press - 2012-06-15 12:24

      Hahaha Julius and Floyd must come crawling on their knees to ask the "racist girl" for her forgiveness. Time to accept the rules of the new society we all agreed to or remove yourself and emigrate to go and live with your hero mad Bob . .

  • michael.rampatla - 2012-06-14 16:14

    I wonder this white people they did told their children how the accumulated their wealth, why black people live in shacks, why they don't have education, why are they poor. And their because their blacks their inferior

      Tony Lapson - 2012-06-14 16:20

      I wonder if your parents and leaders told you those lies. My dad worked from the age of 15 running messages up and down rail lines, sold live chickens as a hawker for 30 years in townships from the back of a beaten down bakkie, and only reached success when he was 57 years old in 1996 from a lifetime of hard work. You will look at him and say "his apartheid parents gave him everything."

      michael.rampatla - 2012-06-14 16:25

      Congratulations to u dad we business people like, to inspire us. Great stories are inspiring

      kenneth.cairns.50 - 2012-06-14 16:30

      @Michael-lets see, 18 years into democracy-you still complain and live in the past, toy toy, demand everything for free,demonstrate and march with no achievements to justify your grievience's with ANC, yet you carry on voting for them, you keep protesting regardless of the fact its achieved bugger all before,you still to this day expect everything for free eg:water,electricity etc, you still blame the past when nothing goes your way, and then when everything else fails you blame whites and other race groups because you simply cannot do or get things right out of your own mistakes made.Just maybe, Michael, whites and the past are not your problem? I have always believed that a Black mans enemy is himself -not anyone else in SA.

      Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-06-14 16:37

      Yes I will, I will tell them that not all of you are ignorant but most of you are un evolved, and keep voting a government that rapes you day in and day out while blaming white people....

      michael.rampatla - 2012-06-14 16:40

      Don't you think we are effected by the education you gave us, cause it was so inferior. You had the bst education and opportunities

      michael.rampatla - 2012-06-14 16:40

      Don't you think we are effected by the education you gave us, cause it was so inferior. You had the bst education and opportunities

      Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-06-14 16:53

      I never had an education, you forget my skin is white, I get everything for free.....

      Alfred - 2012-06-14 17:20

      "Don't you think we are effected by the education you gave us" That's just it. It's the education we "GAVE YOU". Who did we go to demanding that they "give" us our education? That's right, nobody. Why don't you tell us all about the education you had before whites arrived in SA? My guess is that that would be a rather short story. And if you're trying to get me to admit that I benefited from apartheid you'd be right, I did. I went to government school that worked, I had parents who worked their entire lives for me and one brother, not a whole dozen who they expected someone else to look after. I'm afraid you've come to wrong place if you're looking for white guilt. I was all out of that years ago. Whether you like it or not at some point you WILL have to take responsibility for your own situation and stop pointing fingers at other people.

      Erna - 2012-06-14 18:18

      You don't have to worry your silly little head about children not learning about the evils of apartheid. It's part of the school curriculum!

      melania.nel - 2012-06-14 19:09

      Dear michael. I am a poor white, coming from a poor white family. Apartheid didn't help us at all. And a lot of white people will tell you exactly that. It was a disgusting time in sa's history. It deprived a lot of people of prosperity they deserved, but what happens now is not apartheids fault. You have a huge generation of post apartheid graduates with no jobs or homes. The gov had ample opportunity and resources to secure thousands of jobs and learnerships during the past 18 years. They didn't do that for their own people. What makes them better than the apartheid gov? Only a handful benefits now. Just like in the past. Why not give credit to the only political party that tries to do something for all people, rather than for a small group?

      Tsotsi-Baby - 2012-06-15 08:39

      @ Michael - it is "they are inferior", not "their inferior" get it?

      Kenna - 2012-06-15 15:37

      My dad was a boiler-maker's son. He was told to leave school at 16 and get a job. Which he did. A few years later he and my mother put him through university. He ended up with a business that employed 4000 Zimbabweans (note, business - not farm). Today, he has lost everything and those 4000 people lost their jobs. Why? Because Mugabe decided to blame the white man for everything and, frankly, went mad. Do not talk to me of privilege because of the colour of skin. Assumptions and bigotry are the mother of all holocausts.

  • Kevin - 2012-06-14 16:18

    Public debates my foot - Ju JU in the big league you are totally out of your depth - totally different than when you are trying to agitate the mob with racial and disrespectful taunts..!

  • phoofolo.lebohang - 2012-06-14 16:23

    I'll die for Malema...

      smili.fication - 2012-06-14 16:24

      I HOPE YOU DO!

      melania.nel - 2012-06-14 16:25

      Be careful what you wish for...

      johann.visser.98 - 2012-06-14 16:27

      please do you idiot!!!!

      Phae - 2012-06-14 16:29

      Silly person, haven't you learned anything about speaking these laughable words.

      michael.rampatla - 2012-06-14 16:29

      We need more malemas than we need more capitalists minority

      mastersvoice - 2012-06-14 16:37

      You're obviously brain-dead already...

      phoofolo.lebohang - 2012-06-14 16:42

      The reason for Malema to be fired in da party its bcoz he doesn't support their corruption activities...

      kenneth.cairns.50 - 2012-06-14 16:45

      And do you really think they care whether you will die for them or not-cmon,dude,you are so nieve and dilussional.

      Wesley Bischoff - 2012-06-14 17:47

      And yet he is corrupt as well. Are you THAT oblivious? Catch a wake-up man!

  • yvonnecraig.linton - 2012-06-14 16:25

    @ Ingwani whats with the " huh " sound slike you choking on your own bull s2rt .

  • shadung.raymond - 2012-06-14 16:27

    Exectly!!! They must apologise and reimburse u Madam Helen! Lol....they r full of disrespectful attitudes!!

  • william.letsong.5 - 2012-06-14 16:42

    The YL and Malema supporters, do you remember The Spear? Newspapers and individuals were forced to apologise to Zuma by the African National Criminals. Malema them was worse than pre-school boys by calling a WOMAN all those names. What goes for one, must go for all. Thye must apologise to Zille and pay her legal fees the bunch of stupid idiots.

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-06-14 16:45

      Good comment !!!

      smili.fication - 2012-06-14 16:48

      Actually, NO... The two are totally different. The one was found to be against the law whilst the other one was self censoring due political intimidation.

      Wesley Bischoff - 2012-06-14 17:45

      I agree. Every action has an equal yet opposite reaction. They got what they deserved. Nobody forced them to do and say all those things. People must realise.... To be a successful adult, you need to take responsibility for your actions, and not blame everyone else.

      Press - 2012-06-15 12:32

      Actually I dont give a damn if somebody paints Zuma with his service pistol hanging out or someone calling Zille a racist girl or someone singing kill the boer - what I really care about are the ideas behind these statements - and when it surmounts to neo-racism its exactly as bad as old racism and it should be treated with equal contempt - now if you judge - first decide what goes on in the head of the person behind the painting or the words or the song . . . and that unfortunately cannot be banned.

  • kenjaymay - 2012-06-14 16:49

    They must apologise to Zille and then do the country a favour and kill themselves!

      michael.rampatla - 2012-06-14 17:01

      May u must find where are from? And leave us alone in our africa. Viva prez viva Mugabe viva

      Wesley Bischoff - 2012-06-14 17:41

      Mugabe? Really? Are you even aware that he destroyed Zimbabwe, killed and tortured thousands of people? And that he has syphilis, which causes dementia? If you hold someone like THAT in high regard, then you are as f*cked up as him. What happened to Viva Madiba? Moron

      michael.rampatla - 2012-06-14 17:52

      Morom is your parents that subscribe to apartheid regime undermine a black person's level of thinking

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-06-15 08:43

      Not actually. If you want to act and say stupid things, don't be surprised when people treat you like the f*cking moron you are.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-06-15 08:44

      You undermine your own intelligence, or lack thereof.

  • Tanie - 2012-06-14 16:53

    Wel gedaan aan die Wes-Kaapse Hooggeregshof Regter Lee Bozalek in 'n geslote kamer sessie. Groot uit kom. Laat die dom, on-opgeleide ape vra om verskoning vir Mevrou vir hulle hartseer opmerkings .... 1 miljard punte aan Helen en die DA en O, nul punte te vet ongeslypte bos seun Ju Ju en sy aap in misdaad Nie nie un-cut botie, Floyd Shivambu

      Phae - 2012-06-14 17:35

      Once more in English...

  • Tanie - 2012-06-14 16:53

    Vizuri kwa Western Cape Jaji wa Mahakama Kuu Lee Bozalek katika kikao funge chumbani. Nje Mkuu ujao. Hebu kijinga, un elimu nyani kuomba msamaha kwa Madam kwa hotuba zao kusikitisha .... bilioni 1 kwa pointi Helen na DA na O, Zero pointi mafuta Uncut kichaka kijana Ju Ju na tumbili wake katika uhalifu Nie Nie un-kata botie Floyd Shivambu.

  • Tanie - 2012-06-14 16:59

    Betaal vet seun en maatskappy, stom lasdier prikkels wat dien geen doel om alle lewe op aarde. Hulle is nie net waardevolle spasie op ons planeet en die gebruik van die aarde se beperkte hulpbronne. Dink net, dat ons 2 opgevoede mense kan sit in die plek van die vet seun en mede. Dit sal dan tot voordeel van ons planeet

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-06-14 18:31

      Los maar eerder om so rasisties te wees. Ek het gedink witmense is beter op gevoed as somige van die swartmense wat kommentaar lewer maar jy is nie een van hulle nie

      kobus.eksteen - 2012-06-15 19:54

      He, he.....die Afrikaans is so swak dat ek moes gaan kyk wie is die mens nou eintlik. as daar al ooit 'n etroll was, dan is sy een. 'n Regte ANC "Tanie", met 'n "I like" in FB for Malema....stupid

      aristar.aristary - 2012-06-16 04:23

      @michael.rampatla: Now you are admitting you and your darling ANCYL and ANC are a bunch of racists. LOL. Well done, you are a not a cleffa boy.

  • aristar.aristary - 2012-06-14 17:34

    Unfortunately one cannot unsay something. Once it has left your mouth you cannot bring it back. I think that the whole ANCYL and ANC are lower than the stuff you scrape off the sole of your shoe.

  • aristar.aristary - 2012-06-14 17:36

    What is the collective noun for a group of cockroaches? A Youth League

      michael.rampatla - 2012-06-14 17:44

      Cockroaches are racist parents whom u benefit from their cruel mind

  • konanani.rachicoper - 2012-06-14 17:37

    I dont think they will,especially juju

  • junevincent.matshiya - 2012-06-14 17:38

    julius malema owes no one.so wats the apology 4?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-06-15 08:45

      And that's your problem... never taking responsibility for your actions.

  • sean.crookson - 2012-08-01 21:55

    Interesting story. Councillor Chapman just flung an insult my way. Alan Winde and his secretary were pretty rude, calling someone a troll and having "a hidden agenda". Zille herself calls people WOMBAT. It seems the DA like to throw insults when people question their policies and decisions in a reasonable manner, yet can't take insults. In fact didn't Zille call Malema something derisory, like 'little boy' (in Xhosa)?

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