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Malema: What, me racist?

2011-04-20 13:39

Johannesburg - ANC Youth League president Julius Malema denied being a racist when he took the stand on a hate speech charge in the Equality Court on Wednesday.

He belonged to an organisation that subscribed to non-racialism, Malema said.

Afrikaner interest group AfriForum has taken Malema to court, contending that his singing of the struggle song containing the lyrics "awudubhule ibhunu" meaning "shoot the boer", constitutes hate speech.

"It's not Julius's song, I'm not Brenda Fassie," he told the court.

He had been inspired by revolutionary leaders to sing the song, Malema said.

He also testified that the word "ibhunu" referred to the oppressors and nothing else.

To politicise or not to politicise

After recounting a number of stories, Malema was warned by Judge Collin Lamont not to make the court a platform for political issues.

"You are not entitled to come and make a political speech," Lamont told him.

However, immediately before cross-examination, Malema told AfriForum counsel Martin Brassey: "You brought this political matter to court, I will answer in a political way."

In previous testimony, ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe told the court that the ANC was not protecting Malema.

Mantashe also told the court that although Malema was the president of the ANC Youth League, he was disciplined when needed.

"Everybody in the ANC gets disciplined... if you step out of line," he said in response to questions by Roelof du Plessis, who is counsel for the farmers' organisation TAU-SA.

Malemaphobia

Mantashe said Malema, through his controversial statements, was merely trying to help the ANC back into power in the Western Cape.

Mantashe told the court that "Malemaphobia" had hit many Afrikaner organisations.

He said he had coined the term "Malemaphobia" after the ANC established an outreach programme for Afrikaners.

Through interaction with Afrikaners when visiting farms, Mantashe said he noted that most of them had an "irritation by Malema".

Brassey said "Malemaphobia" may have resulted from Malema being a controversial figure, who embodied a particular set of ideas.

Keen sense of oppression

He said Afrikaners had a keen sense of what it was to be oppressed and that AfriForum had no desire to burn songs or trample on history.

"Whites become frightened because they are the minority," he said, citing examples of placards held by supporters outside court reading: "F the Boers, I hate them with a passion".

Mantashe said he refused to believe, as suggested by Brassey, that people were so ignorant of the struggle as to not know what was happening around them.

The intention of the song was to inspire and mobilise people. The song did not belong to Malema, but to the movement.

Mantashe said liberation songs had no copyright, and because of this any other liberation movement, such as the Pan Africanist Congress, could sing it too.

Comments
  • Mattewis - 2011-04-20 13:44

    Of course! Everybody knows racism is only applicable to white agents! Black revolutionaries can never be racist!

      Johan - 2011-04-20 14:40

      how about you just shut up lauren...

      Lucy - 2011-04-20 14:45

      L - as far as I remember the original meaning of the K word was 'an unbeliever' and it originated in the east - and in fact is still used in the east, altho now it describes fruit.

      Piet - 2011-04-20 14:50

      @Lauren But singing that you are going to shoot the boer is discriminating against the boere. Why don’t they just sing like the rappers that they are going to kill everybody? With all the killing going on in South Africa I personally don’t think we need songs like that. One think they can’t grasp is if the boere is gone so is the food.

      Mad Hatter - 2011-04-20 14:57

      @lauren - if the right to spout hate speech is ok, if you were oppressed then I'am currently being oppressed (fact), i can then use hate speech as a defence? Or even better take up arms for my cause ?This is where the double standards response comes in i'm sure. Do you condone religious figures using their platform to promote violence ? cos not only is it historical in origin, its scripture .(kill the infedel; strike down the enemy of God ect). Is it hate speech or not .... that is the issue , origin is less relevant than intent , K-word was originally not used as a derogatory term but non-believer(christian) or Native person , it only assumed a derogatory association when it was intended so and why its now a hurtful name.

      Protest - 2011-04-20 15:54

      @ Lauren The majority of whites that I have spoken to and all the Afrikaner find the song an outright threat and verbal attack. South Africa is the murder capital of the world. Songs calling for the extermination of a specific ethnic group is the tiny motivation needed for the ones that was still hesitant to kill. The claims are that poverty is the cause of the massive amounts of violent crime. There are countries with more poverty than South Africa and they are relatively safe compared to us. The culture of teaching the 12 year old Malema to carry a gun is largely to blame. The sad part is that he fully believes that the "cause" for his "struggle" is correct and just. This doesn't make him not guilty. It makes the ANC comrades share in the guilt. Maybe that is why they are defending Malema en-mass. The truth of Malema's history and shaping must be buried as deep as possible.

      Leb - 2011-04-20 18:47

      @Judgmental - 4 hours ago Report comment It's the same as the Whites using the word "Kaffir" in public. It's banned because it's offensive to a certain group in our country and the Whites didn't carry on about the banning of that word, we accepted it as being offensive and moved on." I bet this word is still being used in an oppressive way.

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 20:47

      @Lauren. The origin of the song is irrelevant. The fact is that a section of the population is deeply offended by it. As for Mantashe's claim of Malemaphobia. It is very convenient for the ANC to claim that all the anger whites and coloureds feel against racist statements from the ANC is focused on Malema. No, swaer Gwede. The fact of the matter is that the ANC is racist, it's officials and spokespeople are racist and you are trying to pretend that it's all because of Malema. The entire ANC is on trial here, including yourself. The high level officials giving evidence in this trial is trying to pretend that it's about a song. It is not, it is about ANC racism and the other populations are now gatvol. Malema and Manyi and many others express your racism for you and then you try to make it go away with the most idiotic claims, such as Malemaphobia. WE, THE NONBLACKS OF THIS COUNTRY HAS HAD IT WITH THE RACIST ANC. WE ARE FRIGGING GAAAAAAAATVOL OF YOUR CONSTANT RACIST UTTERINGS AND YOUR SUBSEQUENCE EFFORTS TO DENY IT!! GET IT BRA GWEDE????????????? AND YOUR ANC. Do you know why I hate you so much? I supported your non-racist stance and voted for you but you deceived us. You used us for votes and now you are turning against us. But you can't hide your racism. You are defending it in court and you are rewarding other racists like Manyi. You give him a newspaper so that he can continue being your racist mouthpiece.

      Sifiso - 2011-04-20 23:35

      Juluis is saying he is not racist, who then must we believe him or you?

      whereu - 2011-04-21 00:40

      Lucy, The K word is of Arabic origin and refers to the “unbelief” in the Islamic version of God. These people (K's) are also referred to as Infidels. If you read what the Koran has to say about Infidels you may not be so well disposed to the K word.

      scorpio - 2011-04-21 08:17

      We should start singing ..... "Shoot the Moer", and see how long it takes before Malema has a problem with it

      Krush - 2011-04-21 12:02

      @Sifiso. Have you ever heard the saying "Actions speak louder than words?"

      Thangy - 2011-04-21 12:59

      As with all languages you cant make direct translations without taking the context in which its being said into account.

      Sword&Cross - 2011-04-21 13:12

      Malema passed by Rome and popped in for a visit with what he reckons is his compatriot peer, the Pope. The Pope, assuming innocent surprise says to malema "I can with a single wave of my hand make all these many millions of people standing in my front courtyard wave and cheer and cry for me!" malema responds "How - show me?" and the pope gives him such the hardest backhand SLAP

      jjaver39 - 2011-05-03 23:27

      Agree with you - also an American evangelist visiting SA some time ago!

  • camp.j - 2011-04-20 13:45

    What a load of BOLLOCKS!

  • Kristi10 - 2011-04-20 13:45

    If you say the song means that you should shoot the opressors then Malema should have been shot a long time ago. F Malema I hate him with a passion. Not because he black because he is a racist and a opressor in the making.

      Steen - 2011-04-20 13:53

      Believe you me, he doesnt care about you and your people, in fact he hates white people more than you ever know.

      Lauren - 2011-04-20 14:20

      Steen, don't worry, we know how much he hates us. It's very clear for all to see that he discriminates along colour lines.

      DrGräfenberg - 2011-04-20 14:31

      @Kristi10 2 wrongs don't make a right vat vas

      Kristi10 - 2011-04-20 16:00

      @DrG - My comment to you post were about you using a bad term refering to black people and that is not right. Most black people I know also hate Malema and thinks he is an idiot. Generally i am a peace loving person who cares about people but the man Malema I really hate as much as he hates all whites. So ek vat vas.

      Elizabeth - 2011-04-21 14:03

      But why use words like HATE when someone portrays some kind of a racist character...i know a lot of white racist people @ work and most of the places i go to, but i just ignore them, its something that one needs to deal with personally, infact rather pray for that person for guidence...

  • Wayne - 2011-04-20 13:46

    Alfred E Neuman - What me worry. Alfred E Malema - What, me a racist? The similarities between them are uncanny...

      tut - 2011-04-21 11:16

      Ginges Khan was a liberal compared to Julius

      Alfred - 2011-04-21 11:30

      Hey, thats not fair at all! Alfred E Neuman - "Political speeches are like steer horns. A point here, a point there, and a lot of bull in between." Malema - "I'd rather kill myself than commit a suicide". He doesn't even look like me. I've got a gap between my teeth, he's got a gap between his ears ;)

  • Happy-go-lucky - 2011-04-20 13:47

    YES YOU!!! d**s!

      mark59 - 2011-04-20 15:46

      Which one are you referring to?

      Fanie - 2011-06-04 02:00

      Hey.. d$$s3 is usefull

  • Taurusaurus - 2011-04-20 13:47

    Malema isn't a racist - he's not fit to run in ANY race, let alone the HUMAN race! What a waste of water and oxygen - not to mention Nando's and other consumable resources!

  • hf44083 - 2011-04-20 13:48

    This man is just the biggest joke in SA, second to taking shower for Aids. He just does not know when to shut his stupid mouth. How the hell did he get this position SURELY some ANC supporters have a bit more brains than to vote for him

      wide awake - 2011-04-20 13:58

      It's not about brains hf44, question is how many are still brainwashed into the cANCers corrupt narrow minded racist ideals.

      derkus - 2011-04-20 14:28

      i could shut his mouth but my fly is stuck

      Noname - 2011-04-20 19:50

      Maybe he is joke, but he is dangerous joke, he is looking for attention and publicity, and he has both. Remember that bad publicity does not exist, is just publicity.Every one knows Malema, all my business partners from overseas know him, but nobody knows who is our minister of finance. So is he really idiot, to me this idiot is in the way quite clever.

  • anna - 2011-04-20 13:50

    I'm sure the bastard is just being sarcastic .. He knows all too well that he is one of the biggest racists this country has seen in some time. And he's loving every moment of it.

  • daaivark - 2011-04-20 13:50

    Well it seems as though there are miles separating what your organisation subscribes top and what is actually practiced.

      daaivark - 2011-04-20 13:51

      Sorry: "subscribes to"...

  • Piet - 2011-04-20 13:51

    "The intention of the song was to inspire and mobilise people. The song did not belong to Malema, but to the movement." Hahahahahaha inspired and mobilised them to kill Boere?

      Frangipani - 2011-04-20 15:30

      YES, there you have it, now what the hell are you going to do? move to Australia is my suggestion to you.

      Kristi10 - 2011-04-20 16:02

      Yes Piet and that is excatly what is happening on our farms. Boere are being killed.

      Shadoz - 2011-04-21 12:36

      @frangidiot is that how you settle all your fights hey just put your tail between your legs and run away like a coward? If you know anything about history you will know that the afrikaans race is a proud and tough race. Look what they did to the english a superpower of it's time. What do you think will happen with these uneducated fools that want to wipe us all out. oh and by the way they have the english behind them 2 now.

  • Wendy - 2011-04-20 13:51

    Oh dear. Not again :-)

  • African'shtr - 2011-04-20 13:52

    Malema deserve a Bullet on his head end of story, I am a black man but I hate that boy with all my heart, everything he does its for his own bennefits not for the stupid supporters of him who can't even answer a simple straight question "why do you support malema" damn these people of my colour sometimes they let me down. Vah! South Africa for all Vah!

      RobinB - 2011-04-20 14:26

      Cant you go replace him .. You sound like a reasonable man...

      wide awake - 2011-04-20 14:43

      Mahasana This version of your song was remade in 1994 by Peter Makaba and Winnie, nothing to do with any struggle, the only 'struggle' at the moment is to keep your useless corrupt racist cANCer from fuc*ing the country up completely.

      wide awake - 2011-04-20 14:43

      Mahasana This version of your song was remade in 1994 by Peter Makaba and Winnie, nothing to do with any struggle, the only 'struggle' at the moment is to keep your useless corrupt racist cANCer from fuc*ing the country up completely.

      African'shtr - 2011-04-20 14:46

      @Mahasana what do you know about the struggle and also malema what does he know about the struggle. Mahasana umuncu ngathi awumdalanga damn usebenzisa umphambili wakho to think be a grown up man start to look at most of things that malema does to this country with a bird's eye view then you'll start to understand why we don't need a guy like him on our government

      mark59 - 2011-04-20 15:48

      I want you for president my man..

      The Patriot - 2011-04-20 17:48

      Say's it like it is. Not out of context.

      Sifiso - 2011-04-20 23:41

      your energy is focus on a wrong direction black man, for the hatred you have for Juluis you must miss an opportunity to do something positive about your life and others.

      mikedek - 2011-04-21 11:19

      Sifiso. your statement has absolutely no logic. Seems to me that you urgently need African'shtr's assistance. The fact that he may have a different view from you does not make him wrong!

  • Dal68 - 2011-04-20 13:52

    Common idiotic terrorist.........

  • cerveza - 2011-04-20 13:52

    ooooh, this comment from Malema is going to hurt his loyal followers here on news24, who will justify their stupid ignorant racist behaviour now? Since Malema is not racist, his racist followers are left out in the cold and must now search for a new leader to brainwash them, one that they can support without logic

      mark59 - 2011-04-20 15:49

      Ahmen...

      Daniel - 2011-04-21 08:21

      how can the brainless, brainwash ?

  • Tired - 2011-04-20 13:53

    Wow Malema is not a racist. I'm so glad he cleared that up. I thought he is the definition of a hating racist. Look at his interview on BBc iplayer Hard talk. He said Mogabe is is admired because of his courage. To take a stand and take what belongs to the people. If you think there is a future for the white man in South Africa you are delusional.

      cerveza - 2011-04-20 14:59

      @Tired - if you said there was a future for black people in SA 50 years ago, most people would have thought you are delusional. Stop being scared of the future and make it what you want it to be

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-04-20 15:38

      @cerveza yes, black people do not have a future in this country with the ANC in power. no job = no future 17 years in power and the numbers haven't changed.

      cerveza - 2011-04-20 16:17

      @Steve - so you haven't seen the thousands of black people driving fancy German made cars, living in big houses with domestic workers cleaning after them. So you haven't seen the percentage of the JSE owned by black people and that it is growing. Yes there is an unemployment problem, and it is being handled poorly, but there are still a future now whether you can see it or not and there is an even brighter one once the corrupt and incompetent are removed from power

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-04-20 17:20

      I would not call it a problem, it is more like a disaster. You mention when the corrupt and incompetent being taken out of power. How is that going to happen when the are being getting rewarded? Those thousands in the fancy German cars better watch out, when the people have had enough there will be blood to pay.

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 22:08

      @cerveza. 20 years ago and 10 years ago and even 5 years ago I also hit out at anybody who tried to say that SA is going down the drain and that there is no future. Go back to your bottle old cerveza and continue to believe that we are on the road to prosperity in South Africa. When you can't buy beer anymore you'll wake up to reality. By then it will be too late. Look at Zim.

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 22:10

      @cerveza. 20 years ago and 10 years ago and even 5 years ago I also hit out at anybody who tried to say that SA is going down the drain and that there is no future. Go back to your bottle old cerveza and continue to believe that we are on the road to prosperity in South Africa. When you can't buy beer anymore you'll wake up to reality. By then it will be too late. Look at Zim.

      Sifiso - 2011-04-20 23:45

      if you have diagnose that the is no future for white man in south africa,one would suggest that you start making plan for an alternative place because your comment are not assisting the situation but fuelling it

      jean.dutoit - 2011-04-21 09:29

      @Sifiso: 'One' does not have to suggest making plans to leave this Godforsaken continent. We're already working on it. Enjoy!

  • Spoofed - 2011-04-20 13:54

    i'm still waiting for somebody so smack this oke with a nice fat banana in the face...

  • YohYohYoh - 2011-04-20 13:54

    Malema failed woodwork coz the glue was white...

      anna - 2011-04-20 13:57

      yoh! lol!

      Kgwadi - 2011-04-20 14:18

      yohyohyoh, your are not white but PINK/PALE.A u colour blind.

      Warren - 2011-04-20 15:30

      Kgwadi, you coconut!

      unbeatabulls - 2011-04-20 15:34

      make no mistake the race war has started.....with words, soon the race war will become a reality, funny how Verwoerd knew this 40 years ago. I know what side am i on, and believe me I am not leaving!!!! no matter what this stupid goverment does or say, I am a PROUD BOER Malema, u monkey, u dont insult me...EVERY DOG HAS ITS DAY and yours will come soon!!!!!!

      jean.dutoit - 2011-04-21 09:31

      @Kgwadi: Black is beautiful. You, on the other hand, are brown.

  • wide awake - 2011-04-20 13:56

    Lol lol - ffs, is there anything more hilarious than Mal-thing and the cANCer. Not racist, anyone even children know they are racist. What does he think all his remarks and actions are? The idiot clown doesn't even know he is a racist.

  • MK007 - 2011-04-20 13:56

    then they should sing shoot the oppressors. Overall a lot more dialogue is required here.

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 16:15

      Well, the oppressor's at he moment are the ANC. They are opppressing the poor by stealing money meant to uplift them. They are raping the country for their own benefit!

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 21:56

      Oe Frangipani. So, the ANC is singing about itself? This is hilarious and I am laughing my boude off.

  • Voice - 2011-04-20 13:57

    Now we will wait for Malema's biography after this case!!!!!

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:48

      Why? You are going to be making very expensive toilet paper then.

      nick - 2011-04-20 14:54

      Yes, it will be on sale in hard copy.....one ply !

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 16:15

      Yes, all 10 pages of it!!!!

      Pohlkat - 2011-04-21 09:13

      @ Voice. I will give you a sneak preview on his Biography. Take all your clothes off, go stand infront of a large mirror, turn around and bend over. Now take your hands and pull your butt cheeks as far open as possible. That my friend is as good as his biography will be!

  • Slapper - 2011-04-20 13:58

    How can you tell that he is lying? his lips move. He is a typical ANC Lying Corrupt Racist incompetent useless article.

  • Smooth Sailor - 2011-04-20 13:59

    This bone head is going to start a war. I wish I could get me and my family the hell out of here before his followers take heed of the blatant instructions to exterminate and cleanse SA of the whites. This man has already started a genocide- and it is obvious what his supporters all believe- shoot the boer- i hate the boers- boers are bad. unfortunately the uneducated masses way out number the educated few (including blacks and whites). when a nation like ours has digressed as badly as SA- they can only resort to one thing- ethnic cleansing. looki around us- its happening right now.

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 22:06

      Oh yes, and the ANC should know that coloureds will not be supporting its struggle this time around. We are gatvol with affirmative action discriminating against us and we were outraged by Manyi. The ANC can never ever take the Manyi mistaky away. He officially confirmed what we have experienced for a long time. The ANC and the government is for blacks only.

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 22:12

      Did News24 just delete my comment that Malema is going to start a war? I also said it will be a full scale war and the ANC does not realise this. The movie "Lord of War" with Nicolas Cage shows clearly how weapons stream into a country. I am not advocating war. I am pointing to a reality. Malema and the ANC cannot continue to bash whites. It is inevitable that big s...t will come if the ANC is not stopped. Period. The majority of whites and coloureds have no where to go.

  • Sammy - 2011-04-20 13:59

    ANOTHER ANC LOL

  • Virginia - 2011-04-20 14:00

    Mr Malema they only time you and your party can say they are not racist is when this country does away with the words black and white and that equality reigns, that companys can be sued for employing anyone by the colour of their skin. The government of to day is worse that the apartheid government, at least with the old South Africa we knew where we stood, today we have freedom to live and walk where we want too, but only black people will have jobs and remember if the ANC was disciplined we would not have all this problems of fraud and places like Robben Island going bang. I am quite sure there are plenty of elegible black people in this country who can do a better job then the present leaders which includes you Julius.

      Lennox - 2011-04-20 14:42

      but bear in mind that we are free politically but economically we not free yet as blacks cz who owns the farms,minings etc????? the answer is White people, so get ur facts rights

      mark59 - 2011-04-20 16:06

      Lennox, where do you come from my man..you work for what you want dick-head.

      DeonL - 2011-04-20 16:17

      Lennox, economically free does not mean you can get farms, mines for free. Many people that received farms or mines for free, messed it up, you are free to buy it. The biggest land owner in the country is not whites, but the state.

      kleindeef - 2011-04-20 17:08

      @Lennox I find statements like yours quite contradictory. On the one hand it is said, that SA belongs to all who live in it, black and white. It is also said that SA citizens are free and equal. It seems, on the other hand, that what you, and indeed Malema, are saying, is that all black people needs to be "rich" in order to be economically free. Also, that all white people needs to be "poor", in order for black people to be economically free. It follows then that, according to your reasoning, white people are in fact not free and SA does in fact not belong to them too. Do you now see the contradiction?

  • anna - 2011-04-20 14:01

    Noooooooooooooooooo ... because only non-blacks / Europeans / "agents" / rest of the f-ing world are racists!

  • chantal de pierres - 2011-04-20 14:02

    In SA today, our farmers are all races and creeds therefore the song belongs in the dustbin of history.

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-04-20 14:02

    DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE, the ANC CANNOT even spell the word !!! ...CORRUPTION, ah, now theres something more familiar...

  • wide awake - 2011-04-20 14:02

    Another ridiculous comment from the king of useless corrupt racist bull**t.

  • Bluemas - 2011-04-20 14:03

    Love him or hate him,Juju rocks!

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:50

      2 words...Wit Wolf

      wide awake - 2011-04-20 15:00

      You think he rocks? only problem him and the cANCer are going to rock this country straight into the sewerage pit.

      wide awake - 2011-04-20 15:02

      You think he rocks? only problem him and the cANCer are going to rock this country straight into the sewerage pit.

      bent5000 - 2011-04-20 16:04

      I wonder what the next ridiculous thing is he's going to say.

      mark59 - 2011-04-20 16:08

      yes Bluemas he rocks like a dung bettle on a pile of shit.

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 16:22

      Bluemas, smoke the bloody rock and free us from your racist ignorance!

  • Santapola - 2011-04-20 14:04

    As far as i care!!!this is my land and i will do as i please...they can go sing de lary or whatever somewhere out of my land..This hollandaforum does not have manners..u come to my house and u kak...i am not gonna appreciate that fellas

      Sammy - 2011-04-20 14:07

      I feel the same way? SO WHERE does this leave us?

      Neville Mostert - 2011-04-20 14:15

      Your land? It's South Africans land, all of ours. We were ALL settlers at some point. Check your history.

      Loverock - 2011-04-20 14:17

      Please send me your home address? Do I bring beer or wine and how would you like me to dress?

      Heliac - 2011-04-20 14:22

      This is my "land" too. Does that mean I can do as I please too? Can I call you a k@ff!r? Can I wave the old SA flag wherever I go? What do you think the end-result would be if all of us just did what we want, you idiot?

      El Cid - 2011-04-20 14:40

      Like we care what you think a$$wipe.

      Eric Corven - 2011-04-20 14:46

      This is most definitely not your land my friend - South Africa belongs to ALL South Africans - black, white, Zulu, Xhosa, English, Afrikaans etc... we should just appreciate eachothers differences and accept them. There is no need to resort to racist name calling just to prove a point.

      nick - 2011-04-20 14:57

      I'm sure this guy Santapola is Idi Amin's grandson !

      DPG - 2011-04-20 15:39

      you have no land. Where are your title deeds? go swing from the trees again man.

      mark59 - 2011-04-20 16:10

      Where do you stay.. chicken shit.

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 16:24

      Ha!ha! You sound like Malema who told BBC news that he doesn't own his house, ABSA does! Dah! who's paying the bond then?

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 22:24

      @ Santapola. If it weren't for these hollanders and other whites (and Indians for that matter) where would you be fella? One can hardly call establishing an economy like SA's k...ng in your house!

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 22:52

      @Santapola. If it weren't for these hollanders and Indians for that matter, where would you be, old fella? One can hardly call establishing a thriving economy, k... in your house!

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 23:31

      @Santapola. If it weren't for these hollanders and Indians for that matter, where would you be, old fella? One can hardly call establishing a thriving economy, k... in your house!

  • Sammy - 2011-04-20 14:05

    LOL MALEMA the new "demagogue" AMEN TO THAT!

  • Jim - 2011-04-20 14:05

    Yes and if my Aunt had balls she would be my uncle. "BLOODY AGENT"

  • Colline - 2011-04-20 14:05

    malema put it perfectly when he said, the judge works for the government, the government is the ANC...this case is a waste of time, we know who's gonna win it.

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:53

      So he knows then that the judicial system is rigged by the ANC, that's all he is saying.

      kleindeef - 2011-04-20 17:27

      @Colline I also get the idea he is going to win. I hate what he stands for, but he is playing this case perfectly. This guy does not seem to be a stuttering bufoon (well not during cross examination today that is). He did not really answer any of the questions, not unlike his supporting witnesses, but sort of held his own, I suppose. I got the sense that whatever he says, are drilled into him. All rhetoric, but well rehearsed.

  • Andrew - 2011-04-20 14:06

    The majority of people in this country deserve Julius Malema as their president. Viva Julius Malema, Viva. South Africa never stood a chance from the beginning. History teaches us that.

  • ji - 2011-04-20 14:06

    MALEMA is a Racist .

  • JT - 2011-04-20 14:06

    Funny how they seem to think that all Afrikaners live on farms.

      Zooma Lema - 2011-04-20 14:29

      Don't tell them. They will come and kill the Afrikaners in the city as well.

  • Bill - 2011-04-20 14:07

    Nail the lair for perjury….!

  • Janine - 2011-04-20 14:07

    If this wasn't so sad I would laugh.

  • DeonL - 2011-04-20 14:07

    "De Nile" is an ANC river.

  • MactheKnife - 2011-04-20 14:07

    You could fool yourself malema, not the public. For you its never going forward because you still live in the past. Zuma lied to you when he told Anc supporters they will go to heaven. I am sorry there is no pearly gates for you, you go straight to hell.

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 16:26

      How else would he be able to be president of the ANCYL if he lived in the future. He'd be too old!!!!!

  • Peter makgolane - 2011-04-20 14:09

    Once saw a group of white youth at an eatery place in Polokwane, they were showin some groupie love, takin pictures with Malema. They were all over him.

      Sammy - 2011-04-20 14:32

      Hook us up with a link?

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:54

      They were just getting to know the enemy and to see how close they are before they shank him in the stomach.

      ashtakesknight@24.com - 2011-04-20 15:35

      ye Peter, but white youth were also falling over themselves trying to get a photo taken with Vernon Koekemoer. and believe me, its not because they admired the guy...

      DeonL - 2011-04-20 16:21

      Some people like to take pictures of comedians.

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 16:27

      Maybe they wanted a R250.000-00 Breitlig watch like his!

      Mandla - 2011-04-22 09:11

      They were trying to put some poison in his drink. Wish they had of succeeded

  • Lex Luthor - 2011-04-20 14:09

    Pasop wat jy se bosbeer,ons was in die mindere by Bloedrivier ook

  • Joe Bloggs - 2011-04-20 14:10

    So if I'm part of the minority...which I am. And I'm unhappy with the fact that racism is being applied to the white people of South Africa...which it is. Can I sing a struggle song called "Burn the Shack...Kill the Black" ?? Of course not...this cockroach is a blight on society and needs to be put down...

      Frangipani - 2011-04-20 15:46

      You see the problem is you aint been in a struggle mate: you have never been oppressed, been told where to go and only at what time, been forced to learn in a language you didnot understand or even like, you ve never been stripped naked, humiliated, you have never lived in fear... you can all shout till you blue in the face...all I am saying is that its payback time. Payback is a bitch right?

      kleindeef - 2011-04-20 20:10

      @Frangipani No my friend. Afrikaners have been in a struggle, and have in fact been opressed, unless of course, you do not want to admit to the atrocities in the concentration camps. That does not mean that Afrikaners are now owed "payback" by the British. If you mean to say payback in a sense of "dhubula ibhunu" (spelling)literary, then you have prooved Afriforum's point. What is your stance around this song? Truthfully. Please answer carefully, so as not to contridict you comment above.

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 22:50

      @Frangipani. Ag shame Franipani. What a pity that all your suffering didn't make you wiser. And you're right. Payback is a bitch. Soon that bitch's teets will be empty and then you can add starving to your suffering.

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 22:52

      @Frangipani. Ag shame Franipani. What a pity that all your suffering didn't make you wiser. And you're right. Payback is a bitch. Soon that bitch's teets will be empty and then you can add starving to your suffering.

      gaaatvol - 2011-04-20 23:31

      @Frangipani. Ag shame Franipani. What a pity that all your suffering didn't make you wiser. And you're right. Payback is a bitch. Soon that bitch's teets will be empty and then you can add starving to your suffering.

      barkers - 2011-04-21 08:18

      @Gaaatvol.... "Soon that bitch's teets will be empty, then you can add starving to your suffering" LOL!! LOVE IT!!!!

  • Heinrich - 2011-04-20 14:10

    Mr. Malema the thing is the moral high ground would be to stop threatening people whether it is with song, speech or statements and it does not matter whether it is a minority, race, class or individuals if the latter feels threatened why would you continue?

      Schitzo - 2011-04-20 15:07

      strikkie!!!!

  • Han Solo - 2011-04-20 14:13

    Yeah, And I'm the jolly green giant.

  • Bigman - 2011-04-20 14:15

    Let them find a doctor to cure them of malephobia because it is exactly what they are suffering from. there is no basis in their argument or ven bringing this issue to court, will they stop us at our rallies to sing our historical liberation songs. on another level they are also illussional and paranoid.

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-04-20 19:38

      We have the same problem with malemaphobia as we have with homophobia, the fact that it does not exist. We are disgusted by him. Would love to shoot him if given the chance, but fear him, I think not. Problem is you cannot argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. "Historical liberation songs" my ass! This "song" belongs in the dustbin of history more likely. It is just wrong on so many levels. I am not even white and still find it highly offensive.

  • Niccolo - 2011-04-20 14:15

    'Sh00t the bobbejaan, kill the bobbejaan'

  • cmr.insurance - 2011-04-20 14:16

    I am not raciest just hate all white people and that is my view, what a plonker and we keep entertaining him giving him more power than he deserves. give th eidiot more rope to hang himself with to stupid and arrogant to now better.

      mark59 - 2011-04-20 16:16

      Please check your spelling..dont know if I understand you!!!

  • Lizette - 2011-04-20 14:16

    Julius Malema is getting what he wants - attention!!! Just ignore the stupid man!!

      nick - 2011-04-20 15:04

      This attention won't do the ANC any good....let him keep working for the opposition parties !

  • onetickie - 2011-04-20 14:17

    The Hate Speech Hearing just got started when they had to adjorn for 15 minutes because jARSE & his defence ate all the food so there was none left for Afriforum's legal representatives!!!!