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Malema comes up for Zille

2012-09-12 18:00

Johannesburg - Expelled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema has struck a rare blow for DA leader Helen Zille when he accused ministers of not listening to the courts.

Addressing fewer than 100 soldiers– most of them on special leave following their 2009 march on the Union Buildings - in a small hall at the Lenasia Recreation Centre on Wednesday, Malema said President Jacob Zuma’s Cabinet have been disobeying court orders.

This was putting the Constitution under threat and turning South Africa into a “banana republic”.

He said the DA had won their court case compelling the National Prosecuting Authority to hand over the tapes which supported the dropping of corruption charges against Zuma, but this hadn’t happened.

“We don’t like the DA or Helen Zille, but she has won a court [case] that Zuma must give those tapes to the DA,” he said.

He also said there was a court order against government to give books to Limpopo schoolchildren, as well as an order compelling Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula to reinstate soldiers, but this hasn’t happened.

The soldiers attending the meeting said about 1 200 of them had been dismissed following their 2009 strike for better salaries, but the court found that their dismissal was unlawful.

They were then reinstated and placed on special leave.

Malema said he knew “about the sensitivity around the issue of the military, but military discipline doesn’t mean you have to be quiet when things go wrong. That is military stupidity.”

He also changed his tune about unions, saying the court had declared soldiers workers, so they “have the right to organise”.

Malema denied that he was “planning a mutiny” or that his meeting with soldiers was illegal.

“We are here because we heard you have problems. We require nobody’s permission to come and listen to you,” he said.

He added, to cheers: “Yes we don’t like the government, but we want to bring it down democratically.”

Read the full City Press article here.

Comments
  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-09-12 18:07

    Malema must shut up. He defended Zuma and came up with all sorts of names for everyone who differed with him.

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-12 18:30

      For a politician who is in the public eye all the time, it could prove to be dangerous to change you mind like this all the time. He cannot be trusted - plain, simple!

      matla.motso - 2012-09-12 18:43

      Christelle, I would rather hav someone with enough balls to take stock, admit they were wrong and change things if necessary, rather than, say someone who carries on down a path they know is wrong but continues for the purpose of saving face

      Squeegee - 2012-09-12 19:27

      Malema will soon discover that he has stretched the rope long enough to make his own noose...

      Xavier7034 - 2012-09-12 19:47

      The Classical Greek story of Hydra - the serpent with many heads, and bad breath epitomises Malema - he is wily and can morph to suit any political situation - beware!

      merven.halo - 2012-09-13 15:39

      If Malema can just end like Brett Kebble...

  • Michael - 2012-09-12 18:07

    Lets see if you listen to the courts when they sentence you to life in prison

      Michael - 2012-09-12 18:20

      Great response matla, well done

      matla.motso - 2012-09-12 18:21

      Thank you!

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-12 18:23

      Michael, I think he's too dof to get the sarcasm.

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-09-12 18:09

    Oo no! Malema's saga is exceedingly boring now...(expectorating)

      Harold Chisimba - 2012-09-12 18:40

      @kolobe,cum again...yawn!

      Harold Chisimba - 2012-09-12 18:42

      @justonatherguy,Lets hope so.

  • rosa.demelo - 2012-09-12 18:10

    ...........................confused idiot

  • joe.farmer.92775 - 2012-09-12 18:10

    what's next, cats and dogs living together in Harmony gold feilds?

  • nads.delange - 2012-09-12 18:10

    He'll say anything to criticise Zuma. This is a misleading headline, he's not sticking up for her, he even says he doesn't like her. But News24 knows how to draw an audience.

  • osmaseko - 2012-09-12 18:12

    Malema said he knew “about the sensitivity around the issue of the military, but military discipline doesn’t mean you have to be quiet when things go wrong. That is military stupidity.” kwaaaaaaakwaaaa this man can talk LMAO bwaaahahahahah

      richard.hipkin - 2012-09-13 09:25

      Indeed! :)

  • jacques.v.zyl.jazz - 2012-09-12 18:15

    Agreed.

  • Martha1234 - 2012-09-12 18:16

    Shame, how embarrassing for Helen Zille, a malema endorsement!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-09-13 09:25

      No ways, a big bonus!!

  • croix.mactee - 2012-09-12 18:16

    Says the all-time biggest law-abiding citizen, but only to gain political mileage (in his precarious position). Everyone can see right through you - even the suffering shack-dwellers.

  • irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-12 18:17

    Wish this bloated tick would shut his mouth already.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-12 18:49

      But why Irene? The best thing for this country would be for the ANC to split. It is too large and diverse a party to effeciently govern this country. Malema is causing rifts in the ANC better than any opposition party ever did. He actually has their leadership shaking with fear. This may be the stimulus required to either split the ANC or at the very least, to start caring for the citizens again. Maybe Malema is a necessary evil that we could use to our benefit? Maybe he will be the economic ruin of this country? Who knows? But the point is that he is here, he has an audience, we have to accept that.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-12 19:02

      Vernon, the problem with Fat Boy is that he tells anybody anything they want to hear to make them feel better about themselves or the situation, knowing full well that what he's telling them is an impossibility. It's like telling a kid they can have a sweet and then taking it away from them. Once a 2-year-old is having a tantrum it's pretty darn hard to stop it, hence the marauding masses. A split in cANCer can only be a good thing but regardless of a split or not, there isn't a decent, honest one amongst them so I don't know how effective it would be in the first place. So long as the electorate believes in false promises it won't make any difference who is in power because until the government is made up of people with integrity, nothing is going to change.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-12 19:11

      Agreed Irene, but let's face it, the ANC has also made many promises that they have not fulfilled to this day. Maybe Malema can just highlight the corrpution to the masses and then threaten that they will spoil their votes if it does not end. If that alone can save 20 billion rands in a financial year, then he has helped the country a great deal. I am saying that he is here whether we like it or not. It is ridiculous for us to just call for him to be killed or rant and rave on this forum. That will achieve nothing. Someone needs to devise a way to use him to the benefit of the country. If not, then he is capable of causing a civil war by marching millions of poor people into the suburbs and into our homes. Leave aside the racism of the radical blacks and whites here. Leave aside our dislike of the man. What can we do to turn this to our advantage?

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-12 19:26

      The only thing that can help this country is education. So long as there are gullible fools who fall for Fat Boy's lies, nothing will ever change and so long as cANCer are around, the level of education isn't going anywhere either. It's a vicious circle. There is absolutely nothing that Fat Boy can say that can benefit SA because even if he denounced cANCer, the voters would still be ignorant enough to vote for them again. Fat Boy is a waste of space and I fail to see how he can be used to anybody's advantage, given the voting mentality of this country. His following is also not that huge and in my eyes he's nothing more than yet another cANCer connected thieving, thug.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-12 20:48

      Sorry Irene, but I just think that we write off this guy at our peril. He is dangerous because he has the ear of over 20 million poverty-stricken people. Sure education is important. But the ANC has dumbed down our nation over the past 2 decades. It will take years to get education back on track. Meanwhile it will take Malema just months to derail this country. It does not help to call him names. We cannot wish him away. We need constructive ways to react.

      kobus.basson.18 - 2012-09-13 16:59

      Irene & vernon, you never, never ever trust a politician. They are just looking after their own pockets

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-14 10:17

      Quite true - cannot trust them. But we do vote for them and entrust them with our taxes. So we have no choice really. Merely to try and choose the lesser of the many evils on offer.

  • djmarcosa - 2012-09-12 18:19

    this guys is like a cry baby.. just really get lost and get a life you malema you are such a fool.. you got expelled.. your so called friends told you go.. so go.. you are not in government so stop acting like you are in it.. please you makine sour grapes even more sour.. honestly.. this guys is just looking for anyway to get back into power cause he is not getting his fat pay check any more.. people must just let him go way and that's it..

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-12 18:19

    So after all the sensationalism from the minister and the unwarranted calls of treason on this forum, Malema has said absolutely nothing wrong or illegal. He is playing people like a flute. Detractors and supporters alike. The sooner people realise that he is not a brainless buffoon, the sooner he can be dealt with legally and politically.

      galmzala - 2012-09-13 08:21

      yes politically I agree, while him and cANCer are busy blabling and killing each other for positions, we should vote them out and the new government must ensure they pay each and every cent they stole from public funds, sell they houses, cars, raid they bank accounts anyone who benefited illegally from cANCs government must be punished for all their mess they caused us.

  • teleki.maker - 2012-09-12 18:20

    This person is stupid.Chief u making people to be perceived as idiots.Soldiers,miners and who is next,pls stop listen to this pervert.

  • louis.hager.12 - 2012-09-12 18:24

    So, why does the state waste time and money on the Boeremag trial, and not even \waste\ an effort on muzzling this morron. Only diffrence between him and the Boermag is the colour of his skin.

      sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-09-12 18:35

      I don't want to know how many years his trial would take.... too many charges..

      lionel.defrontignac - 2012-09-12 18:36

      Nah: he's a stupid sociopath, and they are psychotic and plain stupid.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-12 18:38

      And the fact that the boeremag had weapons and written plans to kill people has nothing to do with it? Do not be blinded by racism.

      matla.motso - 2012-09-12 18:54

      Oh please Louis!! Have you even kept abreast of the details of the boeremag trail? If if had, you wouldn't post such an alarmingly ignorant comment.

      louis.hager.12 - 2012-09-12 19:02

      Oh joy the race(ism) card. Predictable. @Vernon and Samual. Mandela was a terrotist to a different regime, now the Boeremag are terrorists to a new regime. Learn to c the woods from the trees. Malema is a terrorist to a nation with a struggling economy. Don't complain about the petrolprice or the price of food or electricity if you lack perspective , if yoy had you would not make your stupid comments.

      matla.motso - 2012-09-12 19:16

      Louis are you high!?! You played the racism card by insinuating the afrikaaner terrorists got a harsh penalty by virtue of them being afrikaaner! Do you even read what you are posting?

      louis.hager.12 - 2012-09-12 20:00

      @ Matla, learn to not only read, but also comprehend. O and I'm not high, necause I do not A support the ANC, value Malema or are named Matla.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-12 20:41

      To quote your wise words Louis, \only difference between him and the boeremag is the colour of his skin\. Bring up race when it suits you - and then scream racism when someone points out what you are doing. And call them stupid. You must have been the head of the debating panel at school.

      louis.hager.12 - 2012-09-12 21:29

      And Vernon aced his comprehension tests I see. Gather around children, let me explain, because it seems your heads are hurting thanx to uncle louis' little conundrum. If there is NO difference between the Boeremag and Julius other than the obvious COLOUR of their skins, there are NO diffrences at all. Both have a destabilised South Africa on their agendas. Both have extremist politcal views and ideologies, and both want nothing else, than what's right for their selfish selves. It has NOTHING to do with racism, other than your obvious attempts at trying to be politicaly correct. But please do come play again, because you realy are funny when you get upset.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-12 23:06

      I cannot sleep so I will play this childish game. The boeremag were caught with weapons and with written plans on how to blow up places, kill people, assassinate Mandela, etc. They are a bunch of terrorists. Malema is a politician. He has not killed anyone, nor has he threatened to kill anyone. Everyone is going on about treason, but no one has an iota of evidence against him to suggest treason. All that people have is their obvious hatred of the man.

      louis.hager.12 - 2012-09-13 05:57

      Oh Vernon, how can you not sleep when you are this naïve? Malema has threatened to kill, publicly inciting those who are easily influenced by him, if you would please refer to the whole \Shoot the Boer\ -song debacle. He has also threatend to \Kill for Zuma\ just to name a few. Oh and as for Politician. He WAS one, he has no political home now, nor has he the obvious ambition to form his own political home base. The Boeremag had plans YES, and WEAPONS, BUT did they actualy in fact kill one person in the proces?

      louis.hager.12 - 2012-09-13 05:59

      Oh Vernon, how can you not sleep when you are this naïve? Malema has threatened to kill, publicly inciting those who are easily influenced by him, if you would please refer to the whole \Shoot the Boer\ -song debacle. He has also threatend to \Kill for Zuma\ just to name a few. Oh and as for Politician. He WAS one, he has no political home now, nor has he the obvious ambition to form his own political home base or party. The Boeremag had plans YES, and WEAPONS, BUT did they actualy in fact kill one person in the proces? Do try again.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-09-13 09:29

      louis, I suggest you stop now, the hole you have dug for your self and the pathetic way you trying to crawl out of it is tiresome now. You were the one to bring up race, own up.

      louis.hager.12 - 2012-09-14 04:35

      Oh joy, another one who has no grasp of context. This is so stupid. Malema is BLACK, Boeremag members are WHITE. It's a FACT. Live with it. Other than that they have no diffrence in their ethos. It's a pity this has to be explained even.

  • rosa.demelo - 2012-09-12 18:25

    Bipolar !!!!

  • sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-09-12 18:33

    Sorry, I still don't like him.

      dimitripappas - 2012-09-13 19:52

      Obviously. Like him supporting Zille would suddenly make you like him? That would be pretty bad on your part. He's still an idiotic racist opportunist agent, and most importantly he hates your guts, so yeah, probably a good idea to keep it that way irrespective of the headlines ;)

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-09-12 18:37

    If he did this in Botswana he would be at the end of a rope. In Zimbabwe he would just dissapear. Here he gets more popular by the day and becoming a folk hero. The old regime would have thrown him out the window at police head quarters. Today nothing happens, noise from peanut gallery but he just keeps going. The inability of our government to deal with the corruption just goes to show how much the whole ANC in involved with the R600 billion lost to corruption. Malema is already president, zuma must just hand over the keys.

      Khosi Chamane - 2012-09-12 18:54

      i think Malema found da ANC black book is all i'm saying

  • kobus.basson.18 - 2012-09-12 18:41

    Some of you will not appreciate the following comment: If I was the DA, I would have recruit Malema, pay him a huge salary and try to "train" him. Malema is just a political pawn. Just looking after their own pockets. He is the right kind of person to speak to the masses. He has a lot of followers in the masses. Then you will see what happens in the next election

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-12 20:52

      Novel idea, but Juju will never work for a madam and a tea girl. Also, he is a loose cannon and will only cause problems in any party that he joins.

  • savanajack - 2012-09-12 18:43

    the so called \exploited\ n sensitive black job seekers are fallin 4 malema'snare, he knws they ll roar agaist government but it s bcos of their dissatisfaction than their support 2 him. he cnt even tell them how he is goin 2 help them, u cant overthrow SA government not even the mighty USA can. ppl will soon realize what he is hiding 4 them...

  • savanajack - 2012-09-12 18:43

    the so called \exploited\ n sensitive black job seekers are fallin 4 malema'snare, he knws they ll roar agaist government but it s bcos of their dissatisfaction than their support 2 him. he cnt even tell them how he is goin 2 help them, u cant overthrow SA government not even the mighty USA can. ppl will soon realize what he is hiding 4 them...

  • darren.raath.5 - 2012-09-12 18:47

    your enemies enemy is your friend!but i still think malema is a f,,ing big plonker.

  • tobydt - 2012-09-12 18:51

    All Hail! The leaders of the revolution. We've got your policy, your war, your hate, your retribution! All Hail! The sheer failure of a nation. S.O.S boys, this is white noise. Destroyer, Destroyer, we sing it like a funeral choir. Mourning now our hope is burning in the fire. Deceiver, Deceiver. You never were a great achiever. This is a joke. I hope you choke, non believer. Everything you destroy, we replace. Destroyer, Destroyer ! Every word you write, we will erase. Destroyer, Destroyer ! Every time you think you've stopped us, we rise up stronger from the dust. The shot that set a nation running. The smoking shells are pilling up, just keep 'em coming. All Hail! The warning sound of our salvation. Line 'em up boys, this is white noise.

      truthis.tway - 2012-09-12 19:13

      LOVE IT!! Especially the last line of the second verse. Excellent piece of writing, you should submit it as an article.

  • lenette.visser - 2012-09-12 18:51

    Aag f@k, ou mal malema(the rabbit),jy sal ook enigiets sê om in die nuus te wees!!

  • julio.sanfona - 2012-09-12 18:52

    You got give to young Julius. He changes his tune on the fly.

  • hellodanie - 2012-09-12 18:57

    We like Zille Mr. Malema. She did a hell of a lot more for your rights and that of others than you ever will. Spoilt brats and complete racists like you will never understand it. What a shame.

  • rivijuvenal.shirima - 2012-09-12 18:58

    our africa leders a betray real look in south africa at the time his president fight to lead the poor elect him inodre to solve the hardnes of the people but now he forget about the past thus eliminate malema from his party(ANC) marema start fight the freedom of lowe class people who are exploited by big capitalist then we say in africa we have fredom and full indepence ,people they redy to die to get the fredom keep on marema and God bless marema

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-09-12 19:02

    This pratt malema goes and talks to a few SANDF guys, Enticing more racial hatred. Did this toss ever do a day in the army??? I did two years, and know all about it. The only military thing this idiot has, is that stupid beret he wears, he looks like a big fat green condom.

  • pierre.nortje.581 - 2012-09-12 19:02

    The obsession News24 have with this idiot Malema is nauseating...

  • Matthew.and.Denise - 2012-09-12 19:04

    And in other news, Julius Malema farts...

  • KennySven - 2012-09-12 19:05

    JUJU = JUST UNEDUCATED JUST UNEDUCATED or ZILLE'S MAID IN ZULU

      dnxumalo2 - 2012-09-12 19:29

      Kenny Malema is Pedi not Zulu.

  • hloniphile.fakazi - 2012-09-12 19:13

    OMG!!! It Malema again??? News24 team, is Malema paying you to write stories about him??? We reading about this man now and again!!! Seriously m tired of this bastards elephant *angry*

  • dnxumalo2 - 2012-09-12 19:20

    Hehhehe why I laugh is because I realise that someone is looking for a job and he cant swallow his pride and ask for it politely.Honourable comrade Zille are you hiring?

  • BulletProof. - 2012-09-12 19:20

    He will say anything now as long he can score any political points.We will know much more when all the cards are out. The compadres got upset with each other and the truth comes up.

  • raymon.mcnelly - 2012-09-12 19:23

    Forget the BEER party... He should head the - People Opposing Economic Stability - party!

      Jane Mdakane - 2012-09-12 19:42

      @Raymom that's a good one couldn't agree more....!!!!!

  • prakash.singh.169 - 2012-09-12 19:25

    MALEMA FORM YOUR OWN POLITICAL PARTY OR JOIN THE DA. MALEMA FOR PRESIDENT OF SOUTH AFRICA. YOU SURE KNOW WHAT YOU SAYING, YOU GO FUTURE PRESIDENT.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-12 19:35

      I don't think the DA would lower themselves to accept him as a member. They have morals.

  • joseph.mantsoe - 2012-09-12 19:30

    Malema instead of playing cheap politics you better go back to school in order to upgrade your matric symbols, your time has gone in politics suddenly you support Helen Zille of which you used to badmouth her while you were still part of the gravy train.

  • llewelyn.louw - 2012-09-12 19:35

    Can you please stop reporting on the doings of this semi literate buffoon?

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-12 19:43

    Whether ppl like Malema or not,his argument is valid and just.

  • Billy - 2012-09-12 19:45

    first of all, he is not following court orders is he? didnt he openly say he will not obey? and this; "Yes we don’t like the government, but we want to bring it down..." sounds like what the boeremag was trying to do. and the ANC before that. now it seems the anc is trying to bring itself down. it is pretty clear that the ANC was never meant to run a government, only to overthrow. and no, the anc cant keep overthrowing until the white man is gone. thats like trying to make someone disapear by smacking yourself in the face.

  • steward.mcfreed - 2012-09-12 19:50

    This country must be-careful Malema is busy stirring confusion and violence in the country especially with statements of making certain portions of this country and its activities ungovernable. Who is this idiot by the way? just a political outcast. Such people must be arrested and be charged with treason. His activities are tantamount to those in an attempt to topple the government. He must be stopped with an immediate action

  • Sakhiwo - 2012-09-12 19:54

    Yiyeken'inkwenkwe izonwabele

  • darren.raath.5 - 2012-09-12 20:03

    the ANC expelled a youth league member he thought he would be back by December he hails from limpopo he behaves like a dumb dodo hes still talking sh##t now in September

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-09-12 20:53

    he is really political active indeed.

  • Leah - 2012-09-12 21:14

    Is hell freezing over?!? Nah, just another political ploy. Boy, did Zuma upset you JuJu!

  • Jaco Liza Venter - 2012-09-12 21:27

    Malema is like Agmed the dead terrorist.Silense!I kill you!Are you scared?Ha ha.Well done juju well done keep going now atleast we can watsh something on dstv.

  • given.makhafola - 2012-09-12 21:33

    Malema is really a political activist.

  • Shaun Mccann - 2012-09-12 21:41

    eish my head hurts what a f ing tosser

  • Omnivore - 2012-09-12 21:43

    So he will just say anything?

  • phuti.hlabane - 2012-09-12 22:18

    This is a man with spunk,yooh the man does not beg unlike ths thief called a president.Zuma is a looser.