Malema fails to unseat Hanekom, again

2011-09-16 16:07

Johannesburg - ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema has again failed to unseat Derek Hanekom as chairperson of an ANC disciplinary committee hearing charges against him.

The ANC said on Friday its national disciplinary committee (NDC) turned down a second application by Malema for Hanekom's recusal. This followed another round of procedural matters during Malema's opening plea at his disciplinary hearing.

"A further application was made for the recusal of the chairman of the NDC in relation to charge five, on the basis that he had previously expressed himself on matters related to land expropriation and could therefore be conflicted.

"After due deliberation, the NDC ruled that this matter was raised in the initial application for recusal of three members of the NDC and that decision still stands."

The first application for recusal was raised when the hearings opened, and refused.

The ANC also said one of the charges against Malema had been provisionally withdrawn. An application was made that the NDC could not hear this charge because the NDC was a party mentioned in charge two. The ANC did not explain what this charge was.

Conflict could arise

After due deliberation, the NDC said its prima facie view was that there was no conflict that precluded it from hearing this matter, merely because the NDC was mentioned in the charge.

But conflict could arise through evidence, so, to avoid this possibility, the charge was provisionally withdrawn.

"The NDC ruled on provisional withdrawal of charge two, rather than dropping this charge, because the NDC believes the allegations contained in charge two constituted a serious attack on the integrity of the NDC and on the ANC’s organisational processes," said the ANC.

"Given the seriousness of the allegation in charge two, the NDC is of the view that it should be dealt with, even by the NDC itself, albeit not as part of this case."

The committee completed the hearings into three of the four cases, save for closing argument in the matter of league spokesperson Floyd Shivambu. That would be heard next week.

Malema's disciplinary hearing would continue on Saturday, with the intention of finalising it next week.

Malema, Shivambu, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, deputy president Ronald Lamola, treasurer general Pule Mabe, and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi face several charges. They were brought after comments that the ANCYL would help bring about regime change in Botswana.

They have since apologised to the ANC for the statement and withdrawn it. The six were also accused of sowing divisions within the ranks of the ANC.

The hearing was taking place at a venue outside Johannesburg.

Besides Hanekom as chairperson, Mining Minister Susan Shabangu, Minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane, Febe Potgieter-Gqubule, Playfair Morule and Deputy Public Enterprises Minister Ayanda Dlodlo were on the NDC.

  • People Hater - 2011-09-16 16:13

    What a load of bollocks.

      Vlooi - 2011-09-16 17:07

      Agree. Should have taken 5 minutes. Call the little octopus in, whack him with a plank on the forehead until he cries like a baby (should not take long). Case over.

      Buffalo - 2011-09-16 17:36

      Great comment Vlooi; but what exactly do you have against Octopi?

      Vlooi - 2011-09-16 18:05

      @Buffalo - octo is 8, that means he is 8 times a p

      scipio - 2011-09-16 18:36

      MALEMA JUST BUGGER OFF. You are a pain in the ass. Your a greedy grubby little git! your a fraud. We the educated know your a crook. Your just a chancer taking the piss out of your own people.

      scipio - 2011-09-16 20:07

      Hey dont sit on the fence, tell us what you really is bollocks tho.

      gaharaa - 2011-09-16 21:12

      HA! Vlooi! HA and HA!

      RACINGCAT - 2011-09-18 10:34

      Julie wants the Hanekom out Cause when the time comes to administer the Punishment Hanekom is going is going to do it ....and that will bring humiliation like you cannot believe

      BOER - 2011-09-22 03:31

      This Fat Melemmer just gets fatter by the day and his followers get thinner by the day. Seems like his followers dont have the means to purchase food an yet this fat pig Malemmer is getting fatter and fatter by the day. Can somebody please shoot this guy dead.

  • Bardy - 2011-09-16 16:14

    Why would JM want Hanekom out? Because he is white? That stupid boy will get what is coming to him no matter who is on the committee.

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-09-16 16:20

      Down with Malema - time to get the ANC back to the days of Madiba

      FerretGee - 2011-09-16 16:27

      If he is found guilty, he will blame Hanekom as a white agent within the ANC sent there by the opposition! You can read this farce like a cheap novel!

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-09-16 16:28

      Malema must hate Mandela and his vision of racial cohesion.

      44mag - 2011-09-16 16:44


      Slive - 2011-09-16 16:48

      Thandiwe83 for President

      Newsfollower - 2011-09-16 17:17

      He probably hates himself and suffers from poor self esteem

      thozi - 2011-09-16 17:33

      I'm just thinking of the Springboks at the moment. I'm holding thumbs for them. You guys can continue with this crazy SA society, I'll see you after we've retained the World Cup.

      Liberty - 2011-09-16 18:34

      Excellent statement Thandiwe. That Madiba ideals are the stuff that's missing in the ANC

      john white - 2011-09-16 21:37

      during mandelas term as the ancyl president he formed MK without consulting d then president of the anc chief albert luthuli! malema wil also get a noble mark my words.

      Fred_D_Z - 2011-09-17 12:48

      Thandiwe. In an ideal world I would love the ANC to get back to the "days of Madiba". But I the reality is that the ANC has served it's purpose in bringing democracy to our country but have proved over the last 17 years that they do not have the ability to take our country into the future. They were and always will be a revolutionary org. that is now hell bent on power and corruption rather than delivering to it's people. It's time for a change which is coming soon, 5-10 years from now.

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      DC - 2011-09-16 18:27

      You must be pretty high maintenance :)

  • Patroski - 2011-09-16 16:22

    Can't believe that a disciplinary takes this long. How much evidence is there in this circus? The most complex murder cases are completed in one episode of Law & Order. :)

      Mr. Fusion - 2011-09-16 16:30

      That's nothing, CSI solve it in a day!

      Newsfollower - 2011-09-16 17:18

      Drama drama thats all, they are wasting the taxpayers money

      Fanny Mc Pee - 2011-09-16 21:09

      NCIS must really screw up recruitment for the US Navy. Mortality rate seems to be very high. Hey! whaddayaknow...this comment is not related to StinkyWinky! (Malema)

      Armed - 2011-09-17 06:11

      @Fanny. Dont drink and post.

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-09-16 16:23

    Race card once again!!!! Is their any place in the sun for us other colours of this rainbow nation !!!!

  • Craig44 - 2011-09-16 16:27

    C'mon... Get this BS over with and grow some Nuts and get rid of this Scumbag.

  • Serias - 2011-09-16 16:29

    disciplinary hearings with my staff usually lasts 30 min...........fck this is hillarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Mlungu - 2011-09-16 19:07

      You are learning dabula well done it is cheap labour

      Armed - 2011-09-17 06:15

      My hearings used to take 20 minutes. Win!

      Boerseun - 2011-09-17 14:24

      Eish, this is as they are trying to make Julius not be to aggro...

  • d2eguy - 2011-09-16 16:30

    malema = a fat and useless LOSER .

      Newsfollower - 2011-09-16 17:19

      Amen to that

  • Big Pete - 2011-09-16 16:30

    When the Chinese have completely colonised Africa - the likes of Malema would be taken out through the back door and receive a bullet behind the ear. Not too far off into the future either

      THE-SRG - 2011-09-16 18:02

      ja....they already trying to peddle their tiny condoms here that wont fit any of us

      Vela Stardust - 2011-09-16 22:17

      @ the-srg. Bwah ha ha! What does that make us? Big dicks?

  • Kosmonooit - 2011-09-16 16:31

    I wonder if Cde Juju will be paying his (expensive) lawyers with cash?

      Newsfollower - 2011-09-16 17:20

      no probably not, with our "the taxpayers" money

      Liberty - 2011-09-16 18:41

      It's an internal matter - no lawyers

  • mo-man - 2011-09-16 16:32

    Ma se..

      potevan - 2011-09-16 17:24


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      flummoxed - 2011-09-16 17:59

      .. takes a long time because Fatboy only went to Grade 3 and is having difficulty with the big words..

      THE-SRG - 2011-09-16 18:04

      because he cant read...hoe can they bring him to the book without trying to teach him what the symbols in the book mean lol

      Meetsnoer - 2011-09-16 19:48

      Because the ANC does not have the b*lls to do it and they have to appoint a white man to do their dirty work for them.

      angie - 2011-09-16 22:36

      Deliver him out to the boere!!!! We will have a verdict and a conviction within 5 minutes. Malema hanging from the gallows!!!! They are just doing this to frustrate the boere. I am not affended being called a boer. I am proud of it!!!!!

      Hope-101 - 2011-09-19 10:54

      Who knows, maybe this will be use to distract people from Zuma and the arms deal saga.

  • Sunray33 - 2011-09-16 17:08

    Fatboy....your time is coming...prepare to bend down and kiss your fat ass goodbye.

      IanBerry001 - 2011-09-16 19:41

      Dubula, you're a balloon, just like your nutbag juju

      Boerseun - 2011-09-17 14:24

      Pollsmoor...dis waar hulle sy kamertjie moet maak.

  • Mantsho - 2011-09-16 17:12

    Malema is big racist. if they take him out of the ANC l will be so happy, because it will be quet and people will be peacefully.

      flummoxed - 2011-09-16 17:54

      Mantsho for President!!

  • flummoxed - 2011-09-16 17:13

    Must really stick in Fatboy's craw that "his" Judge is a WHITE MAN!! ha ha

      Mlungu - 2011-09-16 19:05

      Give him the sjambok Derek

  • yimeeh - 2011-09-16 18:06

    much ado about nothing.

  • Lex - 2011-09-16 18:16

    Comments posted on this forum insulting Malema are only giving him and those who support him more ammunition against whites. Most of the insults are worse than anything Malema has spouted. Can't understand how the people doing the insulting don't get that. Or don't they care. They should, it's their future they're busy lighting a fire to.

      nick - 2011-09-16 18:25

      Hi Lex. Having made quite some research into this forum, you would be somewhat surprised to learn that many of them are not white ... !!

      st14338637 - 2011-09-16 18:49

      It's my future they are lighting a fire to as well..

      Mlungu - 2011-09-16 18:56

      dubula -and we cant just seat while our leader is attacked by these racist. ha ha ha to lekker an Mlungu is giving Julius ha ha ha

      thozi - 2011-09-16 21:11

      dubula, these people just take pleasure in mocking you. It's 'sit' and not 'seat'. Just like, "Sit dubula, sit. Good boy".

      proudandpink - 2011-09-16 22:03

      @thozi ~ LMAO!

  • FerretGee - 2011-09-16 18:17

    I heard an intersting statistic today that if nationalization of the mines and banks happen, the value of moneies invested in South African pension and provident funds will drop as much as 50%. This affects ALL races and includes funds that are Government, Union and business owned! And before anyone cries that it's only whites that are on funds, you better believe that it is not so. The unions have millions invested in these funds and the cost alone of that loss will impoverish millions of South Africans.

      FerretGee - 2011-09-16 19:20

      And to whomever gave me a "thumbs down" please feel free to actually state your case rather than anonymously disagree.

      Chris Potgieter - 2011-09-17 03:54

      This should not bother one, I've had a thumbs down for as neutral satement as "very interesting" on someones comment who had all thumbs up. Some probably misclicks or others who are probably......

  • Edward - 2011-09-16 18:45

    this is all a nicely planned show to keep us happy.

  • burtfred - 2011-09-16 18:46

    Malema is like one of those floaters in the loo. No matter how many times you flush, he just doesn't go down. That's also why Mugabe is called Bob.

  • dubula - 2011-09-16 19:45

    he is trying to impress his brothers.

  • michael.e.bowery - 2011-09-16 19:56

    He wriggles here . he wriggles there, this Julius wriggles everywhere. Is he in heaven or in hell, who the hell cares just leave him there.

  • mabsie - 2011-09-16 20:11

    Its all just a well staged political drama, players know their lines and cues.......

  • G-MAN1 - 2011-09-16 20:12

    Why is MALEMA still breathing the same oxygen as me, this character will forever be a racist waste of time and tax payers money spent on court cases against him

  • Michael - 2011-09-16 20:31

    The Motherboard got to be careful because President Malema is the Youth Engine Power ,this matter should be resolved internally without any kind of threatening him to be Expelled or Suspended from the Organization. To me this is Totally wrong , in other words there is no Practice of Democracy within the Body. I don’t see any wrong doing with Julius and Fluid ,there are young ANC Lions who deserve to pick up what is wrong and right because the Future relay on them……. Viva Juju and Fluid, the whole Country is behind you……..

      jakes123 - 2011-09-16 21:30

      Michael my man it is so lekker to know a Bastard is going to end Malema's career

      proudandpink - 2011-09-16 22:06

      Don't 'relay' on 'Fluid' too much for your future or the 'young' hyenas. Get educated rather. Therein is your future. Juliearse is your downfall. Once you've been educated, you will understand this.

      Boerseun - 2011-09-17 14:27

      Tell that to the okes in Botswana...they cannaot wait for Juju and his supporters, which I hope includes you, to arrive.

  • DrGreenthumb - 2011-09-16 20:31

    The Anc are useless. They couldn't throw a piss up in a brewery.

  • jakes123 - 2011-09-16 21:26

    Listen Malema d_-s you are charged not Derek Hanekom and if it is the last time ever a Boer is going to end your career your stupid uneducated embisile

      Boerseun - 2011-09-17 14:27

      Hanekom a real Boer?

  • BOER - 2011-09-16 22:46

    Look how fat he is and then look at his followers. His followers looks so skinny like they dont have the means to feed themselves and yet this fat pig is getting fatter by the day.

  • eduction key - 2011-09-17 00:13

    its suprising hw people will find sumthn wrong in everything that the anc does.....had the anc did not aprov the removal of MR Hanekom bt some people are still criticising.......pls people give credit where it is due n criticise when necessary

      Stephan Janse van Vuuren - 2011-09-17 01:43

      Credit will be given when it is due. It isn't due. Sorry.

  • Durbsdude - 2011-09-17 06:33

    All of this at the expense of white taxpayers..

      JP Miller - 2011-09-17 14:35

      Surely the taxpayers are NOT paying for an internal ANC issue. The membership of the ANC would be paying, surely....let me know someone, please confirm....

      Hope-101 - 2011-09-19 12:31

      @ JP Muller: Sorry for the shocker, but even his security gaurds are paid with with our tax money.

      Martin - 2011-09-21 15:45

      Most people with a job pay tax. The problem here is getting the whole nation to see what is best, and getting sensible people to agree.

  • pig - 2011-09-17 07:13

    malema malebe

      Oldbuck - 2011-09-17 08:23

      you left out dirty between the two words

  • Zenzele - 2011-09-17 11:28

    This boy is a clown, just send him back to polokwane, he is a disgrace.

  • ruben.maistry - 2011-09-17 12:45

    Do not be fooled. Jujuboy is a decoy for the ANC's pathetic governance

      Hope-101 - 2011-09-19 12:34

      @ ruben.maistry: I am with you 100%. If you look at his timing, you will notice that his comments are always aligned with some stuff like Shabir Shaik spending his time in the hospital or getting his "get out of jail permit", Zuma's rape case or the arms deal etc etc.

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