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Malema may have to pay up

2012-04-08 15:15

Johannesburg - Embattled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema and two of his fellow leaders are being hauled to court by Western Cape Premier Helen Zille in a R1.4m defamation suit.

Zille will on Tuesday ask the court to compel Malema, league spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, and Cape Town councillor and league member Andile Lili to file papers in the case against them – or pay up.

Zille brought the case against them almost two years ago after they failed to apologise for hurling insults at her during and after the 2009 general elections campaign.

They called her a “racist girl” who appointed an “all male cabinet of useless people, the majority of whom are her boyfriends and ­concubines so that she can ­continue to sleep around with them”.

This followed Zille’s criticism of Jacob Zuma’s private life and ­polygamous relationships.

Many of the insults to which Zille took exception were made by the league in defence of Zuma.

Moral values


Zille argues that the statements were intended to mean she is a ­person of disreputable moral ­values, and guilty of conduct unbecoming to acceptable norms of personal behaviour, as well as a racist.

The papers also reveal that the league leaders appointed Advocate Michael Hulley, who is also Zuma’s lawyer and who was recently ­appointed as a part-time presidential legal adviser.

Hulley, however, withdrew on January 19 this year, about two weeks before the ANC’s national disciplinary committee of appeal upheld the finding that Malema was guilty of sowing ­division in the party.

Zille’s lawyer, Amanda Torr, says in an affidavit filed at the Western Cape High Court, where the case will be heard, that it has been difficult serving papers on the league leaders since Hulley withdrew.

Torr said she had to trace their addresses via company searches, and also tried to serve a letter on Malema at Luthuli House last month.

But, she said, the security guard “refused to acknowledge receipt of (the letter) in writing, as they ­advised that the defendants were suspended and their secretaries were no longer there”.




Comments
  • sipho.skosana - 2012-04-08 14:26

    To hell with this old Gogo she must learn to let a bygone be bygone

      Phalane - 2012-04-08 15:39

      Go hellen zille go.

      farmfreund - 2012-04-08 15:42

      bygone, ist is from bygone that the country is burning, so please why dont you blacks let APARTHEID be a bygone and do something productive for the country.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-04-08 21:11

      Let bygones be bygones....Why do you keep bring up the "Refugee " story...sipho..Let bygones be bygones...

      appietrader - 2012-04-09 11:38

      Hope the "old gogo" bankrupt this corrupt, stealing idol of yours

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 11:43

      Sipho and so do you people have to learn to let bygones be bygones.

  • Rob - 2012-04-08 15:27

    Take the racists to court Helen. Each day the WC is a reminder to the ANC as what good governance is all about. It kills them ( ANC ) that they lost the WC & to a party led by a White woman. LOL.

  • Lyndatjie - 2012-04-08 15:32

    Silly little boy with his pathetic unsubstantiated utterances need to finally learn that there are repercussions for spewing untruths. For too long his loose lips have been allowed to flap in the wind.

  • Judith - 2012-04-08 15:37

    Defamation is defamation and it's time the the youth league realised it is out of its league. The two top comments on this thread are typical

  • Jacques - 2012-04-08 15:40

    The African mentality of some of these people commenting here. 'Let bygones be bygones'. So all these mob killings and necklaces being dished out in townships are also just examples of people needing to relax about past injustices, right?

      Moyo - 2012-04-08 16:35

      You are right about one thing, "let bygones be bygones" might not work for everyone. All those responsible for apartheid should be tried for crimes against humanity (they should start with De Klerk). Mandela had no right to put a blanket of forgiveness as a condition on behalf of the people. We all need to forgive each other but those who committed crimes need to be punished. Coming back to Zille`s issue, Malema should be answerable for what he is being accused of but Zille should also be answerable for calling some citizens refugees and labelling someone a "professional black". calling that figure of speech is not an excuse otherwise everyone will use that as an excuse when they utter rubbish. definition of a refugee applies to foreign nationals crossing borders according to the dictionary that most of the South African schools use!

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-04-08 21:24

      @Jacques...These black guy's come across as so badly done by....mean time the wrongs that were Apartheid..were 2 decades ago(most were babies)..where as the group that are being presently affected ...by hijacks,rape and farm murderers are the whites...if any race has something to complain about injustices...it's us. We apologized 2 decades ago to this community...many of us go out of our way to help poor black families with sponsors,and much more..yet you lot keep throwing the past up...GET OVER IT ..IT'S GONE...MOVE ON...WE WILL NOT FOREVER BE APOLOGIZING..you wimps

  • Kevin - 2012-04-08 15:44

    Sue the incompetent f&^&*(ng idiots. Free tenders are running out...

      Jim - 2012-04-08 16:09

      Best you slowdown on the Firewater intake Thandekile.....it pickles and destroys the brain cells apparently....(whatever was there in the first place that is)

  • Godfrey - 2012-04-08 15:47

    Lol zille you are a joke,anyway ANC will pay that money because you will win in court plus you are white.

      Frans - 2012-04-08 16:19

      Thandekile, learn to spell please!! Godfrey us poor tax paying fools will pay not ANC.

      Godfrey - 2012-04-08 16:31

      Frans once you are taxed is no longer your money but the state.

      Frans - 2012-04-08 16:50

      Oh Godfrey,Godfrey,Godfrey!! That's all I'm gonna say. Work it out for yourself.

      CombiChrist - 2012-04-08 17:00

      I think a village is missing it's idiot.

      Raymond - 2012-04-10 13:32

      You obviously godfrey from the insane asylum, you chop.

  • Ditantane - 2012-04-08 15:52

    the madam is fund raising for the DA, she must have done financial accounting at school.

      farmfreund - 2012-04-08 15:54

      At least she is doing it by the book and not under the table,

      Godfrey - 2012-04-08 15:54

      LOL and the courts will help them get the money

      farmfreund - 2012-04-08 16:02

      Godfrey i am confused, have you been smoking dagga today,

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-08 16:11

      @farmfreund, whatup with you? do you want to be her boyfriend too?

      farmfreund - 2012-04-08 16:22

      Sboniswa She is a bid old for me but yes i would like to have a wife like her, she is a real power woman, know what she wants and a hard working person,

  • Hummy - 2012-04-08 15:52

    Oow no please ziile give him a break he still having a lot to solve.

  • Cassandra Olivier - 2012-04-08 15:57

    Malema must pay he has no respect for anyone

  • mastersvoice - 2012-04-08 16:10

    Naughty Malema is going to be punished by the Madam!

  • Graham - 2012-04-08 16:11

    That's the only way. Hit them were hurts, because you can't shame them. If only you give them a good kick in balls.

      vuyo.zuccherro.gqwaru - 2012-04-08 16:29

      Hopefully this will be the first of many lawsuits to come, the ±R140 million tender his company acquired needs to be investigated also, even more so now that he doesn't have the protection of the ANC

  • thozamile.tyana - 2012-04-08 16:22

    People like Madam Zille dn't belong in this country n i wsh Mr Mugabe was the president of this country bcoz Juju is still young now you taking chances let mi tel u ths z nt Britain ryt u cn't rule ths country 4get Magogo

      Phalane - 2012-04-08 16:24

      What are talking about? You call 31 years and calling mrs zille names young?

      vuyo.zuccherro.gqwaru - 2012-04-08 16:27

      Who are you to decide on who doesn't belong in this country? It's small minded people like you and Malema that are undoing all the work that has been done to combat racism. News flash, South Africa is a democratic country meaning we are all equal before the law, black, white, indian or coloured and we all have the same rights.

      Julio - 2012-04-08 16:42

      Eisch you're confused. You have no sensible argument so your only response is to play the man (woman) not the ball. Your support for Bob Mugave just shows your lack of anylitical skills. Then we wonder why this country is going down the tubes!

      farmfreund - 2012-04-08 16:44

      You fool, Bob-jaan from Zim hahaha, this mentalty is the reason you wipe your @ss with news papers,

      Cosment - 2012-04-08 16:48

      Mugabe??? Are you 4 real??? WTF

      CombiChrist - 2012-04-08 16:54

      Incoherent

      catgirl1971 - 2012-04-08 17:00

      WTF have u been smoking????

      Gerry - 2012-04-08 17:12

      One of the world's few surviving brain donours...

      Balan - 2012-04-09 11:41

      @ thozamile.tyana, you say you want someone like Mugabebabboon to be president of SA, then good on you because you going to push a wheelbarrow load of R200 notes to buy one toilet role to wipe your mouth

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 11:51

      Thozamile, maybe Mugabe can understand you, pea pod brains stick together don't they?.

  • Louisa - 2012-04-08 16:28

    The cherri gogs must concentrate on her party and not dwell on minor things. Her party lost during by electons cause her refugee comments. If she wants to woo blacks into her party, then she mst respect herself. South African politicians are really becoming pathetic...always whining about small things.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 11:55

      Look who has stopped ironing!!!!

  • Moyo - 2012-04-08 16:36

    All those responsible for apartheid should be tried for crimes against humanity (they should start with De Klerk). Mandela had no right to put a blanket of forgiveness as a condition on behalf of the people. We all need to forgive each other but those who committed crimes need to be punished. Coming back to Zille`s issue, Malema should be answerable for what he is being accused of but Zille should also be answerable for calling some citizens refugees and labelling someone a "professional black". calling that figure of speech is not an excuse otherwise everyone will use that as an excuse when they utter rubbish. definition of a refugee applies to foreign nationals crossing borders according to the dictionary that most of the South African schools use!

      nicola.killops - 2012-04-08 16:50

      Referring to professional blacks is referring to black people who are professionals etc teachers and lawyers. The youngsters from the EC are deemed refugees as the are leaving the area seeking a better education in the WC...a metaphor based on refugees fleeing a war torn land for a better life....I fail to see the insult here.

      Mike - 2012-04-08 16:50

      Zille embarrassed the EC as it is her right and in the public interest to do so and furthermore Moyo go and lay charges against those people responsible for apartheid as you say, no need to whinge here , get off your butt and go and do something about your complaints nobody is holding you back!

      Price - 2012-04-08 16:57

      Moyo go back to zim where your heroe mugabe will give u a farm. Vala umlomo wakho and leave south african alone

      Moyo - 2012-04-08 16:58

      @Nicola, very funny! anyone can call anything a metaphor & there is a difference between black professional & professional black.

      Mewik - 2012-04-08 17:06

      I'm not sure where saying someone is secretly sleeping with their colleagues is a metaphor and I'm almost certain it is called an accusation. Maybe if we bus more folks into the WC to escape the crippled education systems back in their home towns they would be able to tell the difference between the two, or perhaps even better they might learn to vote for a government with the ability to fix those broken systems?

      Alaina - 2012-04-08 17:17

      F.Y.I., De Klerk played a crutial role in getting Mandela released from prison. If you go back and read about Apartheid, you'd know that. You'd also know that Zille was an anti- Apartheid activist. What does that have to do with the article anyway?

      Brett - 2012-04-08 17:29

      First you must compensate the apartheid government for the infrastructure, universities,schools, hospitals and everything else that they gave blacks for free.

      Rob - 2012-04-08 18:04

      Moyo Please enlighten us. What exactly is the difference between a professional black and a black professional. I can scarcely wait! Is there such a thing as a white professional or a professional white or is this just a black thing? Please don`t tell us that a black professional is black by profession. At which lofty tertiary institution do they acquire this higher degree? Could it be a second degree, a third perhaps... Is it open to whites as well. Can I apply for entrance? What are the minimum acedemic requirements (For whites that is) We all know what it will be for professional blacks don`t we? By your reckoning you are all to the manor born. Are whites excluded on the basis that professional blacks are racist by profession? (heaven forbid) If whites are accepted on the understanding that professional blacks are not racist, what are they refered to as? White professional blacks? Professional white blacks? Professional black whites? Black white professionals? White black professionals? The mind boggles. What else exactly do these professional blacks profess to do? What are their skills honed to"? Are they trained in some or other higher endeavour that we jolly whites as yet aspire to? Please moyo - enlighten this poor serf.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 11:57

      Nicola, you and most of us fail to see the insult here. Blame it on the education they are suffering.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 11:59

      Yes,Moyo you are right. A professional black is just that. The other type, is a professional black who hides behind his/her blackness to demand change and free handouts while looking for ways to enrich themselves on the sly. Grow up.

      raath - 2012-04-10 11:35

      I think he means a black professional is a black person working for his/her income. A professional black is someone who is payed money not for what they do, but for being black, like ANC politicians.

  • Frans - 2012-04-08 16:36

    That's right Helen, hit him where it hurts. Go for the aorta and silence him once and for all.

  • Neels - 2012-04-08 16:37

    Good madam Zille sue the out of control little Limpopo whilligan One day he will learn to shut he's dirty mouth

  • Pur - 2012-04-08 16:37

    Methinks that Juju will now have to pay his own legal costs and fines, seeing he is now expelled from the ANC? Ouch. That's going to hurt him, but I don't feel a thing.

  • Mike - 2012-04-08 16:41

    The legal suit relates to the despicable remarks made about a prominent politician and is not about the crap you have spouted and furthermore she will win because it's clear that those utterances were made with the intention to defame her. For a world renowned politician and a woman I find their conduct reprehensible and the damages sought are far too little. Even calling Lindiwe a tea girl is scandalous and unbecoming of politicians who have nothing but potty mouths.

      Mike - 2012-04-08 16:52

      This post relates to the first post above!

  • abel.nkosi - 2012-04-08 16:53

    Zille must not seize an opportunity out of this young man's trials.

      malcolm.molver - 2012-04-08 17:58

      Hey moron, this started more than two years ago! Plus she has a right to do this.

      Nettie - 2012-04-08 19:58

      This 'young man' slander Me Zille by himself thus now he must bear the consequece

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:05

      For a moment there I thought you meant entrails.

  • Julio - 2012-04-08 16:58

    I long for the day when we can all judge and choose our politicians for what they stand for and what we believe they can do for the betterment of the population regardless of the colour of their skin. I'd love to see white & black people vote for policies and not figure heads. We will only start to see a turn around when we become a truly no racial society. But unfortunately we may not see that in our life time.

      farmfreund - 2012-04-08 17:06

      racial society. does not excist no where in the world, the west is much better educated than the African and still the Frensh does not like the British and the eastern germans not the western, and these nations are 1000 of years old, our new rainbow nation is 20 years old, if the west is not so far to be a non racial society just emagin how long we will still have to wait in SA

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:11

      Farmfreund, what on earth are you talking about.? Since when are the French, the Germans and the British of different races?. Nationalities yes, but not of colour. They may dislike mannerisms, like eating snails and frog legs, but they accept each other and show mutual respect to one another. Where are you going to find that here?.

  • madise.paul - 2012-04-08 17:00

    Zille has a rubbish room in her heart...now it's time to clean it up!!

      Phalane - 2012-04-08 17:05

      The young man called mrs zille names don't forget that.

      Nettie - 2012-04-08 19:51

      Yes she should get rid of people like Malema who rubbished her

      Zahir - 2012-04-09 10:20

      DA is only hope left for SA future not ANC who do not deliver to our people

  • Brenton007 - 2012-04-08 17:02

    @farmfreund, here is a definition of a refugee. "A refugee is a person who is outside their country of origin or habitual residence because they have suffered persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or because they are a member of a persecuted 'social group'."

      farmfreund - 2012-04-08 17:18

      Thank you , but you missed economic refugees, and that is what is happening here, and this is not only blacks the last 10 years we have seen more and more white economic refugee , moving from province to province in the hope of a better life,

      Brenton007 - 2012-04-08 19:05

      @farmfreund, I think you and everybody else is missing the point. You cannot be a refugee in your own country. We all know the Eastern Cape is in a bad way with very little to no service delivery which is why people move from there. When people move from rural areas to cities because of job prospects it is called urbanisation. Here is a definition of economic refugee: "A person who leaves their home country for a new country, in search of better job prospects and higher living standards. Economic refugees see little opportunity in their own countries to escape poverty and are willing to start over in a new country, for the chance at a better life. An example of an economic refugee would be a computer programmer who makes next to nothing in his or her home country and emigrates, in order to collect a substantially higher wage."

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:13

      Brenton, you are right and there are a few more explanations, you are choosing to ignore.

      Brenton007 - 2012-04-09 12:56

      Like what Jacqui?

      alansmartSnr - 2012-04-16 20:06

      ..I just shake my head in pity for some of the comments made here. It is not rocket science to read and translate H.Z. comments as a metaphore, which was neither an insult or defamation of the Eastern Cape's circus which they run. She was quite correct in using the word as a comparison or idiom for a more intellectual audiance.. and it being true I can only applaud her for using good english.

  • Cosment - 2012-04-08 17:08

    My fellow black south africans the word \refugee\ does not mean \black students\,but we da only race offended why is that? Low self esteem?

      Phalane - 2012-04-08 17:10

      I am askin myself the very same question. Being black doesn't make us special

      catgirl1971 - 2012-04-08 17:14

      Bravo Cosment

      Manu - 2012-04-08 17:19

      Cosment, why even the need to label people in their own country as refugees? If you can answer that question then maybe you will understand why many are offended.

      farmfreund - 2012-04-08 17:23

      Cool well said. Cosment / Phalane , no skin colour make's you special but mentality, respect, does

      Cosment - 2012-04-08 17:41

      @manu , the statement is clearly a metaphor but if you do not see it that way it is fine we are entitled to our opinions anyway, but why do you refer the term refugee to black pupils? you answer me 1st!

      Manu - 2012-04-08 17:56

      Cosment, the term refugee was made in reference to the Grabouw incident in which the Coloured and Black communities clashed. It was reported that Grabouw had experienced an influx of blacks from the EC and this had increased demand for educational services in the area. So if a person a few days later says that refugees from the EC are flooding into the WC, who do you think the person is refering to? Please credit people with intelligence.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:15

      Manu, the weay you can carry on about a subject long dead, is beyond me. Reminds me of the nagging of a spolied child.

  • Danny Mothobi - 2012-04-08 17:14

    See most of these comments are from the so called middle class, how sad at the level of engagements, a pity you all....

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:16

      Danny, how do you make up that we are from the so called middle class?. Class is a man made image someone adhere to and others do not.

      raath - 2012-04-10 11:38

      Technically, if you have internet, you are middle-class

      Gerald - 2012-04-10 13:14

      Raath please tell me what you have to have to be upper class

      raath - 2012-04-10 16:10

      If you have to ask, you don't have it.

  • Andy - 2012-04-08 17:15

    Bottom line is that the ANC lost to a party lead by a white woman in the Western Cape and in the Cape Town municipality. Greed and infighting by ANC leadership in the WC resulted in this almost unbelievable result. Amazingly this still continues. This white woman makes some mistakes but easily beats ANC service delivery while the ANC continues to squabble. The people notice and their ANC loyalty is stretched. This knowledge has started to filter out to the rest of the country. People are pouring into the Western Cape and Cape Town because they know they get vastly better service delivery. The DA is most imperfect but their service is way ahead of the ANC. The people are reacting slowly and reluctantly to the knowledge that the ANC elite have stolen and continue to steal from the poor. They desperately hope (and so do I) that this will change. Further, with the money that has been stolen the ANC does not do very well with service delivery. They are even starting to slip in their strong suit - spin talk is getting poorer and has lost its freshness. They are less and less inclined to believe the obvious lies they are fed while still hoping for a change of attitude by ANC leadership. But the taste of gravy at the top has resulted in full blown addiction. The loyalty of so many people who owe their freedom to the ANC is admirable. The treatment by the ANC elite of these loyal supporters is despicable.

  • Manu - 2012-04-08 17:16

    I question the wisdom of this. In business this would make sense, but in politics kicking a man when is down won't play out too well in the public eye. It's one of those situations where you lose if you win.

      Zahir - 2012-04-09 10:17

      The hawks have enough evidence to put malemo away? What is taking so long

      Raymond - 2012-04-10 13:44

      He was certainly on the up when the claims were first made. No sympathy, he goes down NOW!

      alansmartSnr - 2012-04-16 20:17

      Kick him in the groin, in the teeth and then in the unmentionable place till he stays down.. thats when you win from both angels,

  • Louisa - 2012-04-08 17:17

    I thought Ugogo Zille is smart, but i was wrong. The woman wants to woo black voters so she can climb the highest seat in the land. But recently she is upsettng the black voters. Her party lost by elections in the eastern cape where she called black pupils refugees, the black voters didn't show her mercy. She will never smell power she continue like this. Black people are not stupid, they see right through her. she must be patient and stop being bitter, her time wll come to rule. Thats if s worthy to ruleshe s worthy to rule.

      Phalane - 2012-04-08 17:22

      Are you kidding me? So only black people are running from the poor standard of education in the eastern cape, is that what you are saying?

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-04-08 17:28

      Louisa please remember the non-refugees will be getting feed-back from the education refugees about the improved surroundings they are experiencing. Slowly but surely the message will come through that they have been abandoned by the ANC and being named an education-refugee may have been correct.

      farmfreund - 2012-04-08 17:30

      There is no better publicity than bad publicity, Malema is the living proof of that, Zille is not dumb she knows what the word marketing means, and to get people to talk, even if they talk bad but just get them talking the rest will follow, it is an old marketing method that works as well,

      Nombuso Sangqu - 2012-04-08 20:58

      don't worry Louisa gogo Zille wil nev b our president nev..

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:17

      Black people are not stupid. You Louisa can fool me.

  • Greg - 2012-04-08 17:35

    I not a supporter of either the ANC or DA. HZ needs to start doing more to stop the racial tension she causes, white people are barring the brunt of her big mouth because the people who hear this rubbish she says are too illiterate to understand its meaning.

      Nettie - 2012-04-08 19:45

      Shame you do have a problem

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:19

      Greg Gow, you are not a supporter?. How much worth do we have to put on your opinion?.

  • Econwald - 2012-04-08 18:11

    i knew it, she thinks Malema is powerless now, shame go to hell Zille

      Nettie - 2012-04-08 19:41

      Sir he commited this hate speech 2years ago the case will only be heard in the court now. Its his own fault that he is \powerless\ now.

  • Blane - 2012-04-08 18:30

    Suffer JM , I hope they clean you out

  • Mark - 2012-04-08 19:22

    Mrs Zille may well have the answer here - sue the cheap crook, all of them, as nothing else seems to work. Perhaps the next step is to haul Emperor Jacob into court for repeatedly appointing his own cronies to senior positions. If we can't vote them out let's drag their sorry asses into court and take back the millions they are stealing from the country and the people.

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-04-08 19:33

    Malema must be held accountable for all his utterances. He has been disrespectful, to whites, to members of parliament and the president. In that order. He needs to be brought to book on all of them - each and every one!!

  • kholofelo.phasha - 2012-04-08 20:37

    i ddnt lyk the way malema insulted ppl bt the way white ppl hate malema ,u leave me no choice, i hv 2 support hm cuz i cn c most of the comment wich r disliked in dis news24, r cmment of blck pple who r raise their opinion abt zille reaction.am nt racist n i wil nvr be racist in my life,so if dis issue is abt colour m supporting malema.

      Nombuso Sangqu - 2012-04-08 20:50

      im with u brother

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:23

      Never mind Kholofelo, we don't understand a word you are saying. Is this what passes for education nowadays?. How sad.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:24

      Nombuso, you would be, always following, never leading.

      raath - 2012-04-10 11:42

      Your poor use of attempted English shows that you may be a product of EC-standards education. Either that, or you are too lazy to use proper words.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-04-16 20:32

      Yes Jacqui.. plain stupidity and ignorance. A shiny example of Eastern Cape education

  • psenye1 - 2012-04-08 22:19

    For once lets be realistic and reasonable as adults...DA won western cape by a lot of white votes...including the colourdes that got fed~up with the ANC..thus DA is still trying to lobby the black voters...and as yet they are not yet sure if they are winning...therefore when a lot of blacks start flocking into western cape without any assurance that they will vote DA...it irritated Helen...a lot of white people are moving down to cape town and they have long been doing it since the DA took over that province...but for her assureness and security...there wasnt any need to call them names...black people coming there will only strengthen ANC support...anyway thats the party that can only convince blacks...therefore the political motive is trust rather than the word refugee itself...we might be making noise and all that...but from the comments and the way people express themselves here...it goes without saying that...DA is for the white majority...and ANC for the deprived majority and starving black people...it doesnt give political assurance or career to DA...as much as it gives ANC hope and an idea to win back that province...politics are about exploiting innocent minds...and hiding the proven race truth to the innocent voters...

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:27

      Psenye, sure thing it gives the ANC hope that a t-shirt a food parcel and a toffee apple will bring in the votes to keep them in power. The shacks will be shacks, the roads will be potholed and the people will walk miles to a place where they can get polluted water. What a brilliant future for your grandchildren. Do enjoy.

      psenye1 - 2012-04-09 13:25

      Jacqui...as much the ANC is not doing anything with regard to service delivery...irrespective of how poor the black will be... it will take centuries for them to vote a majority white party...remember everytime before the elections... the SABC plays videos of apartheid brutalities...the way in which whites brutally murdered blacks like dogs...Black people would rather than starving than be killed like flies...even today the DA is just doing its best not to give anyone an impression of what they stand for...majority of whites are cruel...and they think blacks are stupid...because all what is happening here is most whites forever threatening blacks about poverty...therefore in a broader picture...you will never find any black person considering trusting a white never ever ever...as much as I will be a moron..idiot..stupid..dumb.. bastard, all those names that racists prefers to use when race topics are on peak..

      psenye1 - 2012-04-09 13:39

      i have been observing news 24 for sometime now...all what is happening is racial fights...you must see how curious people become everytime there is a racial topic...and yes only insults are the order of the day... whether DA or ANC...it is fights all the way...the truth hurts..but the bottom line is almost everyone has all his painful racism and hatred experiences...almost everyone is bitter and angry... and lastly some other are not even doubtful to display their racist behaviour publicly here...its just disgusting

  • psenye1 - 2012-04-08 22:20

    For once lets be realistic and reasonable as adults...DA won western cape by a lot of white votes...including the colourdes that got fed~up with the ANC..thus DA is still trying to lobby the black voters...and as yet they are not yet sure if they are winning...therefore when a lot of blacks start flocking into western cape without any assurance that they will vote DA...it irritated Helen...a lot of white people are moving down to cape town and they have long been doing it since the DA took over that province...but for her assureness and security...there wasnt any need to call them names...black people coming there will only strengthen ANC support...anyway thats the party that can only convince blacks...therefore the political motive is trust rather than the word refugee itself...we might be making noise and all that...but from the comments and the way people express themselves here...it goes without saying that...DA is for the white majority...and ANC for the deprived majority and starving black people...it doesnt give political assurance or career to DA...as much as it gives ANC hope and an idea to win back that province...politics are about exploiting innocent minds...and hiding the proven race truth to the innocent voters...

  • chimzyn - 2012-04-09 00:05

    i love malema and i support him, because he is smart and he can talk for himself without reading on a paper unlike some leader does. He's a real politician and he is the first logical and radical ANCYL president.

  • nyasha.mutonono - 2012-04-09 01:24

    Shame on u, Helen Z. U just need ATTENTION!!! Ek dink ....Next tym u must think before you speak.What u must do now is to take care of your party before it drown in drain lyk National Party remember.

      Balan - 2012-04-09 11:56

      @nyasha.mutonono, be carefull you are the one thats going to drown soon, I know you cannot swim.

  • nyasha.mutonono - 2012-04-09 01:25

    Shame on u, Helen Z. U just need ATTENTION!!! Ek dink ....Next tym u must think before you speak.What u must do now is to take care of your party before it drown in drain lyk National Party remember.

  • Gordon - 2012-04-09 08:28

    Notwithstanding the subject matter here, most of the responses praising Malema and offering support come from young Black Africans whose poor spelling (and, as a logical consequence, their lack of education) is patently obvious to anyone reasonably educated in the use and grammar of English,. Very sad, I would say, and is a poor reflection of the standard of his support base with the implication that the uneducated are the backbone of his popularity.

      Smash - 2012-04-09 11:37

      Lack of education caused by your grandfathers with the Bantu education system. Wish your kids would attend one of the township schools

      zipho500 - 2012-04-09 11:44

      Let's have getting education in any vernacular and see how far u go with spelling mnqundu wakho

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:33

      Smash, typical comment. Bantu education has nothing to do with it, as much as you like to blame the white person again, go talk to Blade Nzimande, he and others are responsible for the terrible education dished out to our children today. While there you can also ask about the R30billion rand they spend on trivialties and not on education. You can also asked why they deemded it proper to close the teachers colleges, just because it was a white invention. Maybe on the way back you can reflect on what purpose this blaming the whites for ever is serving you..

      Jacqui - 2012-04-09 12:35

      Zipho 500, we don't have to spell that, it doesn't buy bread in New York. Grow up.

      Hadebe - 2012-04-09 18:25

      Jakoei,...u can also asked why they deemded... Tjo! booi, looks like we are from the same class here, u must be the dumbest of your race, with all the resources at your disposal, you still write this crab?

  • wesselo1 - 2012-04-09 09:54

    The racist little boy will have to pay up :)

  • Deon - 2012-04-09 10:07

    Off course they are refugees. Anyone that rely on state funds to get anywhere are refugees.

  • gauchet1 - 2012-04-09 11:35

    George, If you refer to those that are running to Aus, I agree with you. If you are referring to us that are born here, you are missing the point. The first white man did not run away from Europe, they were sent here to establish something that was not here before. Do you know your history or are you filtering it to make you a victim?

      Balan - 2012-04-09 12:13

      @ Koekies, I was born in SA and did not run, but emigrated to Aust because of my skills , furthermore life is good here for me and I don't have to swallow all that crap you guys have to

      gauchet1 - 2012-04-09 12:28

      @Balan, what do you mean because of your skills....Do you mean that your skills are not required here in your country of birth. If you say yes, then you are correct by emigrated, but if you say no, you RAN. In my eyes that refers to a lack of accountability and of cowardliness... Please show me a country that does not have crap.

      Hadebe - 2012-04-09 18:08

      Gauchet1, ...to establishe smthng that was not here before... WTF!!! This must be the crap of the next coming century, if that category was featured in the summer awards, ud get best crap award, 3 rows with no rival, for wasting times sake, wil u mention 1 thing that was not here before u came, u mean gold, diamond and the land perhaps? Pls dont tell me u mean the guns and the paper money, look at us now, worse than hw we were before, enslaved by what u thought good for us

      gauchet1 - 2012-04-09 21:42

      Hadede, And in your books why were the Europeans here? Stop crying buddy...google why van Riebeeck came here or do you not use google? You are displaying a victim syndrome by not seeing the truth.... ole Van came here on request of the east indian cpy to establish a trade route.... or did that exist here? One summer award less for you I'd say

      gauchet1 - 2012-04-09 21:49

      And yes Hadeda, while you are whining, the Europeans did not do it correctly, well better than the ex cons down in Aus... but we as South Africans are here to make it better for all. expect for the lame and lazy and corrupt of course

  • Thefat - 2012-04-09 13:38

    Eish, This is just the beginning for poor old JM... next is Tender Fraud. He'll soon live in a Shack again! This is a lesson for all the corrupt ANC BEE Collectors.

      Hadebe - 2012-04-09 17:54

      The Fat Cat, you wish heh!

  • Rob - 2012-04-13 21:46

    Jacqui, it just got worse....you commented. It comes as no small relief to know you so cleverly refrained from slitting your own throat with a butter knife whilst reading my comment. That must have taken a strong mind fortified with significant amounts of self discipline. For your benefit Jacqui, here follows a translation - bearing in mind Jacqui, that my choice of language depicts or epitomizes the humorous, to me at least, and quaint way some Africans use Afrikaans - "Oh my goodness, I`m being sued by Helen Zille for defamation! I`m going to have to pay up, possibly even end up working for her, heaven forbid. Shucks! Helen, I may have enough money to pay you, on the other hand I may not, depending entirely on the outcome of the rather uncertain circumstances, I, to my considerable consternation, now find myself in. While you `re at it Helen, please speak to President Zuma on my behalf, I`m afraid he has it in for me." It`s a parody Jacqui, or satirical in case you missed it. I`m sorry it did n`t measure up to your lofty standards. Possibly The Body Brain Performance Institute seems to leave a little something to be desired, or fall a bit short in your case. Jacqui, may I be so bold as to recommend an alternative source of enlightenment and development for your enquiring mind and obvious stature? Something a little less challenging perhaps? Like a series of cold showers, or a nice hot bath with a toaster.

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