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Malema mitigation hearing over

2012-02-17 10:27

Johannesburg - The mitigation hearing for ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema and two other league members has ended, an ANC spokesperson said on Friday.

"The hearing finished around midnight last night [Thursday]," spokesperson Keith Khoza said.

"All arguments were received and we are now waiting for a decision from the NDC [national disciplinary committee]."

The hearing started on Monday.

Earlier on Friday, SABC News and EWN also reported that ANC prosecutors had recommended that Malema be expelled.

Six hours were set aside to allow Malema, his spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, and the league's secretary general Sindiso Magaqa an opportunity to argue in mitigation of their suspension from the youth league.

‘Misleading’ statements

NDC chairperson Derek Hanekom said the ruling party would be allowed to argue in aggravation of sentencing.

Hanekom said the NDC wanted to correct "misleading" statements that the ANCYL leaders had been found guilty for calling for the nationalisation of mines, expropriation of land, and "economic freedom".

"At no stage were these issues a factor in the current cases. Any argument suggesting that the hearings at any stage had anything to do with these issues is devoid of any truth."

On Thursday, ANCYL deputy president Ronald Lamola said Malema would not be removed from his position by anyone but the structures of the league.

At the ANCYL's lekgotla last week, Malema said he would resign as the organisation's president if the structures of the league said he should.

"All leaders of regional, provincial and national executive committees... across the country rejected the offer of the ANCYL president to resign his position," said Lamola.

The ANCYL's leaders would remain in place until June 2014, when its next elective conference would be held, because there was no constitutional basis on which to remove them, he said.

Cannot disobey decision - Mantashe

ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said the ANCYL could not disobey the decision to suspend Malema.

"Once a decision is taken by a higher organ, it is binding on all lower organs, whether you think it is stupid or uninformed, it is a decision and it cannot be refused," he said.

On February 4 the ANC's appeals committee announced that attempts by Malema, Shivambu, Magaqa and three other ANCYL officials to have the guilty verdicts against them overturned had been dismissed.

They were found guilty in November last year of bringing the ANC into disrepute and of sowing division in the party. This was after they made comments about regime change in Botswana, undermined Public Enterprises Minister Malusi Gigaba's authority, insulted a journalist, and compared President Jacob Zuma unfavourably to his predecessor Thabo Mbeki.

Comments
  • Malcolm - 2012-02-17 10:33

    Come on ANC. Show us what you made of.

      Kobus - 2012-02-17 10:56

      Why can he not be jailed? Mutiny...

      J-Man - 2012-02-17 11:06

      @ Kobus...wait for the SARS/ Hawks/PP investigation outcome....

      Zulumfana - 2012-02-17 11:09

      The NDC must acertain that he never resurfaces again therefore have opted for 'elephant pace' to tie up any loopholes. I certainly don't want to hear anything about his name...lets allow NDC space in ensuring his 'diginifed' political retirement.

      Sloppycowtits - 2012-02-17 11:22

      Most of us have just watched in amazement the entire Malema rise and fall, to best understand Malema and the powers that allowed him to rise you may want to read about the Dunning-Kruger effect. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

      Alisha - 2012-02-17 11:22

      The stage is set for the creation of the all new South African Youth Party (SAYP). A party that will result in mass defections from the ANC's current youth members. This is the beginning of the end of the ANC and the continuation of the original power struggle. God bless South Africa, we in for a dangerous and bumpy ride.

      Penny-wise - 2012-02-17 11:51

      YES !!! Get rid of this militant m@nkey rot that's destroy the ANC. The ANCYL are way too late for the revolution. That happened already with Madiba and Bhiko in the 50s and 60s. Africa DOES NOT need these idiot, racist, militant troublemakers. GET RID OF THEM !!!

      theO rAcLe - 2012-02-17 12:03

      Me MAL-lemma...look

      Spyker - 2012-02-17 12:11

      NEWS 24 HEADLINES: Malema hearing has started. Malema hearing has been in progress for 30 seconds. Malema hearing has been in progress for 60 seconds. Department of Science and Technology confirms suspicion that 60 seconds is 1 minute. Malema hearing has been in progress for 1 minute and 30 seconds. Malema hearing has been in progress for 2 minutes. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...!!!! If this fat freak had half a braincell (even a stolen one) - he would have invested the money he stole (aka Transformation/Nationalisation) from white people, in the supposed 'white' controlled media.

      Anthony - 2012-02-17 12:31

      THIS IS A FINAL CALL FOR ALL PASSENGERS TRAVELLING WITH SOUTH AFRICA THE COUNTRY please bury this turd and lets move on there is so much to be done in south africa -lets get started since this sad and negative fighting between the ANC and the ANCYL started --THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SINGLE POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION MADE TO SOUTH AFRICA OR ITS PEOPLE this is like children fighting over a toy at nursary school in the playground--will someone now take the toy away from jub jub and lets move on there cant be anyone in south africa who isnt sick to death of this garbage please bury the turd and lets move on --there is much to be done

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-02-17 14:32

      lol - Sloppy, I think the Dunning Kruger effect is a fair reflection of our entire government - with the possible exception of the department of Finance... i think a new word should be created to describe them - ineptocracy... kleptocracy... idiocracy... take your pick...

      Eric - 2012-02-17 16:01

      @Kobus. The ANC is a voluntary organisation so one cannot be jailed for mutiny but expelled. If the sentence remains in place and he enters one of the buildings he should not be in then he can be removed by security. It is now a matter of wait and see if they get off with a warning without expulsion. He could still take the case to a higher level if he has the money.

  • Vusi - 2012-02-17 10:34

    Bye Bye Backstabber! Hand in the keys for your Range Rover!

      Silvana - 2012-02-17 10:38

      You're very optimistic Vusi, Hope you're right. But what then?

      Nigel - 2012-02-17 10:44

      & all the other assets that he bought with stolen tax money that was meant for the poor

      Penny-wise - 2012-02-17 11:52

      @Silvana - Then, the Youth League idiots can break away and be as successful as Cope. Good riddance to bad rubbish!!

      Sean - 2012-02-17 13:47

      Malema is leaving S.A , he`s going to stay with uncle Bob !

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-17 14:47

      Hey you guys.. Everybody on this page should take a few minutes to read the http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect. It is a mirror of the case in point. Specificly Ju Ju.. and a few others of the ANC and ANCYL

      Sannie - 2012-02-17 14:52

      At least he has balls to speak about the landless majority of the country. You are just trying to please the colonial masters.

  • Jason - 2012-02-17 10:35

    Bon Voyage!

      Jacqui - 2012-02-18 12:00

      Ag shame Sannie, from the front seat of a million rand car, I also speak lots of nonsnense especially if I know there are those that take me seriously. Grow up.

  • E=MC2 - 2012-02-17 10:37

    PLEASE ANC! for ONCE just make the right decision... for all of our sakes!

      Shistirrer - 2012-02-17 12:00

      Chances are that the sentence will be aggravated and he will be expelled. After that things will happen quickly - Sars and the Hawks will be after him immediately. He will lose all his fair-weather tender friends, because he will have no political influence. Nobody that's anybody in the ANC will dare to be seen to associate with Julius. He will be totally out in the cold and just become a bad memory. Let's hope my predictions are correct...

      VoiceOfReason - 2012-02-17 14:31

      @shistirrer, think you might be right, where's his mother winnie now when he needs her. Too busy trying to pretend a bed sheet is a mini skirt thats where.

  • procold2 - 2012-02-17 10:37

    fire their arses aleady and let sars and the hawks have a field day.

      PB - 2012-02-17 11:06

      procold2, now THAT is the day of reconning I'm waiting for with great enthusiasm!

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-17 14:52

      This is only the beginning of the charade. The comedy will still carry on between the ANC and the ANCYL. They (ANCYL) are refusing to acknowledge the motherbody's right to fire him and want to keep their top strcture till June. Boy! this is going to be fun.

  • Henri - 2012-02-17 10:37

    Why does it take so long to decide, He did nt want to listen, now fire him. Stop looking after the baby !!!!

      Herman - 2012-02-17 10:44

      @ ganja, joker, the anc has no process for anything other than to plunder SA

      Nigel - 2012-02-17 10:45

      & you will take up arms?

      dirk.smit1 - 2012-02-17 10:58

      @Sganja - Do you actually believe the crap that comes out of your mouth? Have you followed the "process"? This IS his appeal. There is no more appeal after this. Even Gwede says that if the ANC speaks, little Julius must listen. So wake up and get out of Lala Land, the reality is, the man is about the get his walking papers.

      Mbulelo - 2012-02-17 11:08

      Nigel we will take up arms...IF THEY DO NOT FIRE THAT FAT THIEF AND HIS CRONIES!It's about time we get a new leading party that has all South African's interests at heart...not these thieving clueless fat cats who do not know the first thing about leading a country to success!

      PB - 2012-02-17 11:09

      Weedsmoker (a.k.a. Sganja) - once again you are showing how ignorant you are. You are going to be so lost once the ancyl are disbanded - which is also quite likely to be looked into, since the kids are making such a lot of noise at the moment.

      Graham - 2012-02-17 11:09

      @Sganja, That’s not an avatar? That’s you!

      Cracker - 2012-02-17 11:26

      @ Graham LOL That is funny but guess Sganja begged for it.

      J-Man - 2012-02-17 11:35

      @ Sganja - he just tried to appeal....and lost... get over it. But one can see how 'well' you actually understand whats going on...

      Bob - 2012-02-17 11:59

      Please guys don't feed the Troll Sganja, he can't be for real.

  • Herman - 2012-02-17 10:38

    Will the anc have any backbone???

      Mbulelo - 2012-02-17 11:09

      For a change I hope they do

      Penny-wise - 2012-02-17 11:53

      I like you Lelo, not in the Western Province way, but I like you. A better, PEACEFUL, SA for all !!!

      Henri - 2012-02-17 13:41

      Penny-Wise, dont you mean the Pink Bulls way ???

  • Andrew - 2012-02-17 10:40

    Well lets wait and see if the ANC are big enough to deal with this situation in the manner that will rid them of ill disciplined members. Not to mention the harm this band of idiots has done to the country in terms of investment and trust.

      Mbulelo - 2012-02-17 11:12

      Andrew...the ANCorruption is a virus on its own, I for one want them out!Not just the young thieves, but the ones who nurtured them too!

      Wendy - 2012-02-17 11:32

      Andrew and then, who will be left?

  • Nigel - 2012-02-17 10:42

    Expell him into political wilderness, then send the Hawks & SARS to finish him off for good, justice will only be done when he is behind bars, where he belongs.

      Mbulelo - 2012-02-17 11:13

      I want to see them living in the shacks!

      VoiceOfReason - 2012-02-17 14:35

      Didn't he once say that the only money he earns is his job in the ANCYL and that everything he has is through loans and if he lost his job with the ANCYL then he'll be forced to move back in with his grandmother in her shack?

  • Marrok - 2012-02-17 10:45

    ok, i am waiting with bated breath for the ANCYL to ACTUALLY respect the ruling party on this. they have made themselves into a unmanageable teenager with bad hair, bad breath and a couple of zits, and they refuse to come clean, take responsibility like adults, and show respect for their elders. in any other household, they would have been grounded and had a stern talking to. This psychological upbringing of our youth is a disaster... c'mon ANC, grow a pair!!! enforce your decision and get the country back in line. and while you're at it, stop your corruption and stealing our resources. you are not above the people of this country. you are not above the law. you are not beyond being mistrusted, and actually moved aside for another government that will respect its people, their rights, and their freedom. Viva the Little Guy, Viva!!!

      Mbulelo - 2012-02-17 11:15

      Young brats now and hopefully the rest of South Africa will also cast votes that will oust the fat cat parents too!

  • themba.mahhumane - 2012-02-17 10:48

    I hv noticed that the Malema issue hs become a race issue which sadden me because we should hv moved forward as a country and individuals and condemn Malema's behaviour and action without his race. I think the majority of South Africans agree that this lunatic is nt good for our country what now needs to be done is to engage ourselves into intellectual dialogue and take this country forward and starting point is to get SA educated that they become independent individuals.

      Henri - 2012-02-17 10:52

      you cant use the word or meaning, intellegence in the same sentence as malema, it would be a discrace to any language !!!!

      Annelise - 2012-02-17 11:00

      Themaba. I agree that it is sad that our country is now more polarized that ever before. But Malema is is the biggest reason why! His racist speeches and comments about black vs. white has done nothing good for us as a nation. For that alone he should be expelled for life from any party.

      Nigel - 2012-02-17 11:04

      @ themba, you are right, it shouldn't be, but unfortunately Mr Malema seems to bring the worst out of people both black & white.

      dirk.smit1 - 2012-02-17 11:05

      @Themba - I agree with you 100%. He who is Malema IS racist, even if he keeps sayin ghe isn't. Just look at his behaviour. Every time he opens his mouth, the world is covered in crap. Now that ANC is about to be stern about it, touch wood, we have the ability to move forward without bias or racist irritations that keep sticking its head out.

      Wendy - 2012-02-17 11:34

      themba, Malema has always made it a race issue .. how about the mafia white judiciary .. while people like that are even heard, there will always be a race issue .. aren't they the leaders?

      Ruben - 2012-02-17 15:59

      @Annelise: We're not polarized. If we were this issue would have gotten violent, seeing so many South Africans stand against Malema, actually gladdens my heart, as it tells me we have moved forward on putting aside the racial differences that plagued our country. However, I'm not as blind as to not see there are still a few racists here and there. It's our Duty as South African Citizens to show them all how hallow and fruitless their stance in life is, and to raise our children to know that it is wrong to be prejudice to others, regardless their race, religion or any other basis that applies.

  • Kusleg - 2012-02-17 10:49

    Is Malema's case before the NDC criminal?

      Gerhard - 2012-02-17 14:07

      I think you typed your comment wrong, it should read.... Is Malema the criminal's case before the NDC?

      Gerhard - 2012-02-17 14:08

      And the answer is yes, it was and he was found guilty and will be sent packing. Off to visit uncle bob in Zimbobwe.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-17 15:05

      Some where I heard or read that Malemmer is going to be honoured by the ANCYL. They want to rename a malfunctioning sewrage farm after him. Rather befitting me thinks.

  • Cosmas - 2012-02-17 10:49

    "ANCYL president Julius Malema has been expelled from the party with immediate effect" looolest, I m eagerly awaiting that announcement!

      Mbulelo - 2012-02-17 11:17

      "And a case of fraud, plundering and being an overall dumb-A$$ has been open against the fat uneducated Ba-s-ta-rd"Now that would be the cherry on top!

  • Noelle - 2012-02-17 10:49

    I honestly think he would make a really good farmer - he needs some good hard labour instead of shouting his mouth of!

      Archie - 2012-02-17 11:45

      I can see him now,pumping away on the cows tail with a bucket under the udders,Ha ha ha he would not last a day,farming is for hard workers not twits like him.

      Gerhard - 2012-02-17 14:09

      Eeew, visual!!!! Him pumping away at the back of the cow.....

  • dirk.smit1 - 2012-02-17 10:50

    Hopefully this will be the last kick of a dying horse.

  • Jaco - 2012-02-17 10:51

    Let the higher organs remove those lower organs...or something like that... Julius you must leeeaaaavvvveeee!

      Sean - 2012-02-17 11:17

      They should just remove Malemas organs

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-17 15:08

      @ Sean..If they do he'll just go and steal some pianos.LOL :-)

  • Bomb - 2012-02-17 10:55

    The initial time set aside was 2 hours each................and it took a 3 days..........OMG, cannot plan a piss up in a bottle store if they wanted to.

  • Collen Masetla - 2012-02-17 11:08

    So zuma, you succeeded, you succeeded in undermining Limpopo province, the youths, the poor, the unemployed, Africa in general by securing second term at the expense of MY LEADER? THIS IS NOT OVER I BET AND IT WILL NEVER BE. YOU CAN'T GO ON FOR 17 YEARS WITH THE SITUATION WORSENING AND YOU CONTINUE AS IF ALL IS WELL. WE NEED CHANGES. Why Malema? Why not zuma himself? Why not jackson mthembu on drinking? Why not mantashe on zim? Why not Mandela and Mbalula during their times? My heart bleeds for you ANC leaders, i want my only hope back. Remember having many dislikes about Malema online does not mean anything because these are dislikes from the rich while the poor, of which Malema is the leader of, cannot even access internet or buy newpaper. JULIUS MALEMA IS MY LEADER AND WILL ALWAYS BE.

      Graham - 2012-02-17 11:16

      How can he be the leader of the poor when he steals R 100 000 000 from them? Please justify the levels of corruption because I just don't get? You right they should all be disciplined equally, you would then really have no leadership!

      dirk.smit1 - 2012-02-17 11:19

      @Collen - Shame, I really feel sorry for you. Just what has your leader brought you? What, in comparison with your leader, did you gain from it? In fact, what did any of the leaders, Zuma, Malema and co, bring to this country accept more poverty, financial desease and uneductated youths? So you know what, I am very sorry for you that you believe that Malema cares about you. If he did, he would have been a leader and not a naughty child caught red handed stealing cookies from the jar.

      Zulumfana - 2012-02-17 11:24

      I like your poem Collen however visitors in this site will judge it by thumb up or down...You have my thumbs down seeing that Malema has already bribed you with a laptop plus internet access.

      Alisha - 2012-02-17 11:25

      The original power struggle will continue and a lot of people will die fighting for it on both sides of their ideological fences. Are you ready to rumble SA?

      Cracker - 2012-02-17 11:30

      Actually the VERY reason why Malema still have something of a following and even ever had one is that so many people do not have access to internet and do not read. But access to the internet will become more readily available and affordable. A few things will change.

      Wendy - 2012-02-17 11:38

      if you believe he is the leader of the poor, then you like many others don't have a clue what is going on .. do some research ..

      Archie - 2012-02-17 11:50

      You belong together,you must be one of his tenderpreneur buddies.maybe you could share a cell .

      Deon - 2012-02-17 11:58

      Good riddance, he was leading the youth into poverty. Maybe he and you can join the UDM.

      mushumi - 2012-02-17 13:13

      I agree Collen. Many poor people regard him as their leader. Judging by the comments here, the ANC has no followers but they were voted into power......same as Malema (he has a lot of followers outside of this forum)

      Bibi - 2012-02-17 13:23

      @Collen Masetla: the poor will remain poor in Africa. I have lived in 4 African countries, all independent for 50 plus years. The people that were poor fifty years ago are now 80 years old walk 5km and gather wood everyday to sell as firewood. unless you are connected. How will an uneducated, poor man, let say 25 years old suddenly become rich with Malema in power. the minute they get in such a powerful position, they forget all the election promises and forget about the needy. Even if the they nationilise the mines, the money will not trickle down.

      makesuthink - 2012-02-17 13:40

      you have internet access so he cannot be your . ALSO Mandela was IMPRISONED for 27 years with your reasoning should should malema also be imprisoned

      Ruben - 2012-02-17 16:16

      LMAO! Sorry! I couldn't help but do that after I read your "heart retching tale" of how Malema is your "leader". Firstly, He is no leader, but a racists made public Secondly, no one is scape-goating him, he was the one who continually refer to the minority as "whites" and other racists comments. He brought this all on himself

  • Phumi - 2012-02-17 11:12

    Leadership come and go in the ANC and they are decided up on and elected by the membreship. No one has a right to expel anyone exept if they have he support of the branches. This issue of Malema must be taken down to the branches and let them decide if he is expelled or not. It is time we stop this dillyderling and get on with the real programmes that are pressing. The issue of land redistribution and the transformation of the economy will not go away just because of Malema! The current sitting leadership is selling out to the media and white monopoly capital by wanting to remove Malema. The proud history of our movement shows that we have no dustbin for comrades like what cdre Matthews Phosa said! This thing of expulsion is a foreign tendency to the ANC that must be rejected by all!

      Cracker - 2012-02-17 11:33

      @ Phumi But at least some of the big thieves and deceivers will go away. That is is a welcome development. Just a pity there are so many able and eager to take up the same roles.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-02-17 11:41

      If the ANCYL want to have that final right they should have been independent organization, like COSATU, in an alliance. You do not represent a part of a company, like a province with branches and when head office decide to fire you, because of misconduct, you claim the branches must decide on your faith. If you do not want to stay in the rules, while representing the mother company, you are free to start your own company and trade on your own rules. Same rule applies here.

      dirk.smit1 - 2012-02-17 12:15

      @Phumi - Please tell me what did the likes of Tambo and Mandela fight for? Did they fight for land and economic reform, or did they fight for the right to be treated as equals, equal opportunity, freedom of rights? This thing of nationalization and land reform was brought on after the struggle. By nationalizing, you are handing out all the cookies, but removing the bakers which means, at some point the cookies are going to run out. Just look at Zim, that should give you a great indication of what happens when you remove the bakers from the kitchen.

      makesuthink - 2012-02-17 13:46

      Phumi Have you read the constitution of the ANC together with all the rules and regulations. I presume that you can and did. Therefore you accepted that the NDC CAN suspend or expel. so if you do not like it start your own political party.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-17 15:21

      They (ANCYL) follow him like the pied Piper and like in the story he will just lead them over the cliff..Wake up! you'r in the mountains already!

  • Andrew Sheppard - 2012-02-17 11:13

    Who actually REALLY cares anymore? *burp* *fart* *cough*

  • Sean - 2012-02-17 11:16

    If this prick doesnt want to leave I guess he just wont leave.The ANC are going to have to disband the ANCYL to effect any change

  • Alisha - 2012-02-17 11:19

    The stage is set for the creation of the all new South African Youth Party (SAYP). A party that will result in mass defections from the ANC's current youth members. This is the beginning of the end of the ANC and the continuation of the original power struggle. God bless South Africa, we in for a dangerous and bumpy ride.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-18 12:12

      Well Alisha, since the youth seem to do nothing else than dance and cheer the likes of Malema, we will all wait and see where your dangerous times will lead us. I won't be losing any sleep dear one. Pipe dreams are always displayed in the light of day and so is yours.

  • Wendy - 2012-02-17 11:28

    So ... how many times does a decision get taken>

      Gerhard - 2012-02-17 14:17

      As far as I know, he can still take this to the ANC executive meeting in December for another appeal. Why not, it's not like he is going to be busy or anything...

  • Lourens - 2012-02-17 11:32

    They can drag a story out longer than Days Of Our Lives!!Come on.

  • Jean-Marc - 2012-02-17 11:38

    @Trevor, why don't you give back all the land and farm animals your tribe stole from the Khoi and the San people?! Idiot.

  • Andre - 2012-02-17 11:39

    Typical african-style politics. These lunatics are from a different planet. The ANC did not act earlier when this mampara made all the wrong noises and now has to deal with it circus-style. They are a disgrace to normal intellectual SAfricans.

  • Scouter - 2012-02-17 11:51

    There is a very good reason why the condemned were hanged at the break of day - it prompted everyone to get on with their own life, there after the event.

  • Howling - 2012-02-17 11:52

    Julius = the affiramtive action version of TellyTubbies

  • STYLEbudd - 2012-02-17 11:54

    Will the news24 team please switch off/deactivate the REPEAT PLAY button

  • tumelo.theka - 2012-02-17 11:59

    The only solution is for him to resign as president of the youth league, otherwise he don't have a clue of what will happen after all this mess.....

  • Eric - 2012-02-17 12:08

    A lot of comments here apprear to miss the point that Hanekom went out of his way to stress. Juju and the ANCYL are not in trouble for contradicting party policy - only for insulting the grand panjandrum. Obviously calling for "nationalisation of mines, expropriation of land, and "economic freedom" is not a contradiction of party policy. Don't read too much into Juju's disciplining - the "ideas" are still alive and well.

      dirk.smit1 - 2012-02-17 12:29

      @Eric - I don't agree. On many occations both Zuma and Gwede has said that nasionalization is not part of ANC policy. I agree however that the point is missed regarding the article. But like most comments attached to a Malema article, what he stood for is the problem, not really that he brought the ANC in disrespute. I think many South Africans welcome the disrespute.

      Eric - 2012-02-17 12:58

      @DiamondDirk. Fair enough as far as it goes but it can become policy anytime enough ANC/alliance members support it. What terrified most people were his blatherings about exectly the issues for which he has NOT been disciplined. So those people who think Juju is in trouble with the ANC for any other reason than disrespect for the grand panjandrum are sorley mistaken and their celebrations are seriously premature!

  • Terry - 2012-02-17 12:11

    get over this already - let's move on. Please!

  • Stephen - 2012-02-17 12:16

    This Micky Mouses are Tacking Chances we will fight until to the last blood drop, we are prepared to die for Nationalization and expropriation of land from this white thives.Frm ancyl Chairman Mao

      Richard - 2012-02-17 15:32

      haha, You realize that the major Black Cultures in South Africa migrated from central Africa at the same time the white settlers arrived?

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-17 15:34

      @ Stephen.. Whoooooa. Are you predicting another six-day war? Half a million jews knocked the shi88 out of three very well armed countries. In total aproximately 30 million fighting men. Dont scratch where it does not itch. There are still about 3/4 million extremely well skilled men, perhaps a bit older, but just as tough and motivated.. so think well my friend, before you enter that arena.

  • Tau - 2012-02-17 12:21

    No wonder the charges, swa the division in the organisation and already one can tell. What is happening to the Deputy President with the youth. Is it the devision they are talking about. History has its own way or repeating its self. Is its true that the Youth decide who will be the President? Why alway the talk Mangaung? Is Mangaung another version of Polokwane? We all know what happen in Polokwane and i for see the Mangaung resolution. I think in every body mind what is rining is lets wait and see. We can all talk but the strategy and political scores needs needs to be driven home. to some is talks , to others is all about their carreers and their stomach. Politics is equvalent to a man stomach. what bring the food on the table. i cant wait for Mangaung.but before that we have the most powerfull wing of the ANC under scrutiny. The Malema SAGA. I like it since it keeps everyone busy.

  • Comrade - 2012-02-17 12:27

    good, now f***k off

  • Hermann - 2012-02-17 12:30

    I am waiting for the final swan song and then to see what will be hurled into the wigwam from the outside.

  • Dylan - 2012-02-17 12:33

    I see a war Brewing. Im sure that we are in for some interesting times ahead. Watch this space.

  • Bulelani Sibhozo - 2012-02-17 12:40

    Can Julius & his cronies now really get over themselves. This is purely a battle to stay in power I'm sure ANCYL & ANC would be much better off without them.

  • alexviljoen - 2012-02-17 12:41

    I love seeing people that think they are bullet proof get SLAM-DUNKED!! Good riddens MotorMouth Malema!

  • alexviljoen - 2012-02-17 12:42

    I love seeing people that think they are bullet proof get SLAM-DUNKED!! Good riddens MotorMouth Malema!

  • Abram - 2012-02-17 12:43

    What goes around comes around < its the same thing that he did to the former President, Every dog has its day!!!!

  • damonsb - 2012-02-17 12:44

    let the DA tea lady have a go Malema ,Things WILL change

  • Sande - 2012-02-17 13:00

    I've never seen anyone who can't take care of his bread and butter like JM, he was at the door of long standing political career but what can we say there is no medication for stupidity

  • Travis - 2012-02-17 13:01

    ANCYL is just a waste of time and money! They don't do anything constructive for South Africa! The majority South Africans seem to enjoy being taken advantage of by their pathetic leaders. Justice and Politics is a joke in South Africa. What a circus!!!

      jmohlaba - 2012-02-17 13:07

      lol

      jmohlaba - 2012-02-17 13:08

      you are cluless Traviss ABOUT ANCYL!!

      makesuthink - 2012-02-17 13:51

      Jmohlaba when does one stop being a youth and start being AN ADULT The ANC should put up a sign at Luthuli House ADULTS ONLY No more youth league will be allowed inside

      Jacqui - 2012-02-18 12:14

      Jmohala the ANCYL is clueless about the ANCYL too. Must be the berets causing the problem.

  • Hennie - 2012-02-17 13:08

    Damm Circus.....

  • John - 2012-02-17 13:17

    Must be the longest 6 hours in history.... Is it called ANC time??

  • mushumi - 2012-02-17 13:20

    This is still far from over, even the ANC knows that. It could still go either way. One thing is for sure...Malema has a lot of support among the poor (who happen to be the majority) who votes for the ANC. At the end of the day I'm seeing a political solution being reached. The ANC didn't think it will come to this when they first charged the leadership of the ANCYL. It's time for the ANC to do damage control.

  • mushumi - 2012-02-17 13:26

    I have noticed that most people who want Malema to go are not ANC supporters. They are people who don't want to see the ANC govern. It makes me wonder. Are they happy that if Malema goes the ANC will loose support or that the ANC will become stronger?

      Jacqui - 2012-02-18 12:16

      Mushumi how do you know who are ANC supporters or not?. Don't jump to conclusions, they have a habit of tripping you up.

  • Rajen - 2012-02-17 13:34

    ANVYL would gather greater support if it had better responsible leaders to lead all South African youth on the road of hard work, studies and maturity that would lead to "employment freedom" for all. This is what South Africa requires to improve the quality of our lives after the victory of political freedom for all!

      Shadho - 2012-02-17 13:49

      Who is the ANVYL?? Rajen you have no political home now that puppet back stabbing (floor crossing) Bengal Tiger mouse has gone to pasture, who knows where... but then again the BT supported the ANC in more ways you will ever know or guess at...No wonder you promoting what is known as the ANCYL....why dont you ask JuJU Mal- enema for a job.. Lmaooo!!!

  • liso.silwana - 2012-02-17 13:46

    "THEY ARE RACISTS..THESE ANC OLD GUYS ARE RACISTS...WHY DO THEY SUSPEND ME FOR THINKING"...LOL FAIRWELL JUJU WE WILL MISS YOU