Malema may be punished for outbursts

2011-08-08 22:37

Johannesburg - The ANC has postponed its meeting with the ANC Youth League to separate the issue of meeting its new leadership from the possible disciplinary action to be taken about its comments on Botswana, it said on Monday.

The African National Congress's top six officials made the decision at a separate meeting on Monday, secretary general Gwede Mantashe said in a statement.

Present at that meeting were President Jacob Zuma, Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe, Mantashe, his deputy Thandi Modise, ANC treasurer general Mathews Phosa and chairperson Baleka Mbete.

They realised during their meeting that some of the issues they intended raising with the ANCYL were transgressions which could lead to disciplinary action, said Mantashe.

"With this realisation, the meeting agreed that there should be separation of non-controversial issues from those regarded as transgressions," he said.

Analysts had believed that the ANC would be lenient on the ANCYL over its comments on helping to bring about regime change in Botswana.

Public skirmishes

"The ANC can't benefit from any form of disciplinary action. I don't see that today's [Monday's] meeting will have the ability to resolve things," University of the Witwatersrand political science lecturer Professor Susan Booysen said earlier.

The ANC would do its best to resolve the impasse with the ANCYL internally, but was unlikely to venture as far as disciplinary action, she said.

Public skirmishes with the ANCYL were damaging to the movement and to the government, but the ANC's top six were likely all too aware of the party's elective conference next year.

"The rules and the players are different, but already we are seeing the kind of paralysis we saw before Polokwane in the movement and in government," said Booysen.

President Jacob Zuma ousted former president Thabo Mbeki as president of the ANC during the party's 52nd national conference in Polokwane, Limpopo, in 2007.

At the moment, Zuma's position was particularly precarious, said Booysen.

As the head of the ANC, it was his responsibility to rein in the ANCYL, but he stood to lose as much as anyone else from alienating it.

ANCYL - the kingmaker

Zuma has fallen out of favour with the ANCYL - dubbed the kingmaker - which wields considerable power in deciding on the ANC's leadership. It has thrown its weight behind Motlanthe.

"Never mind laughing all the way to the bank, the ANCYL will be laughing all the way to Mangaung," Booysen said, referring to the venue for the ANC's elective conference in 2012.

Political analyst Steven Friedman told the Independent Online he was sceptical about whether the ANC would "act decisively" against the ANCYL.

Last week, Centre for Politics and Research executive director Prince Mashele said that while ANC leaders were speaking out against ANCYL president Julius Malema, they were not doing enough to stop his "divisive and reckless" comments.

"He continues to damage the image of the ANC and no one is doing anything about it."

Ineffective, subtle rebukes

ANC leaders seemed to be making only ineffective, subtle rebukes, he said.

"There is no question about it that very many senior ANC leaders have long been fed up with Malema, but frankly they don't know what they can do with him," said Mashele.

Last week Malema said the ANCYL was sending a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties, as it believed the government there was "in full co-operation with imperialists" and undermining the "African agenda".

A day later the ANC rejected and publicly rebuked the ANCYL on "its extremely thoughtless and embarrassing pronouncements on 'regime change' in Botswana...".
This was a total deviation from and an affront to ANC policy, ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said in a statement.

The ANCYL expressed disappointment at being publicly rebuked before the matter had been internally discussed. It did not believe its position on Botswana was contrary to ANC policy, it said.

Mantashe said that in publicly taking on the ANC, the youth league had committed a "serious transgression".

  • Menace - 2011-08-08 22:45

    Yes, when will the leadership see that Malema is the most divisive force in the whole of SA. We were all united a year or so ago. Funny, it was the time when Juju was gagged!

      My2c - 2011-08-08 23:02

      Hy gaan seker weer se ons almal het hom verkeerd verstaan en moet dit binne die konteks sien waarin hy dit gese he. Miskien moet hy van nou af net in pedi praat

      Lestor - 2011-08-08 23:03

      Lol we were united a year ago? News to me.

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-08-08 23:23

      Although I prefer Motlanthe to Zuma, I think the ANC should change how it elects its top brass - why should Malema and co have so much say?

      marco - 2011-08-08 23:24

      ****ing hell who is charge of South Africa?The government of the ANC or their ANC Youth League?And please don't tell me both.For that is ****ing ridiculous!This ANC Youth League is bloody out of order,blimey.And what's their business in Botswana anyway?What are they beefing about over there?And all this talk regarding regime change over there?Have I missed something or what!!These ANC Youth League are becoming more and more like far-right religious fundamentalist and political extremists the way they behave and carries on.

      Spyker May - 2011-08-09 00:15

      I think we (incl all the “analysts’) are missing the point – likely because the mere thought, of what we might in fact be facing, is best coped with by denial. Everybody seems – at least – partly perplexed, as to why the ANC is not doing what they should about what is not only a patent embarrassment (here and abroad), it is also a matter wholly out of control (in various spheres – eg a loose cash cannon that simply cannot explain the origin/s of- and/or hide his loot – it is only a matter of time before it blows up in the wrong face). People-, analysts-, observers-, etc speculate that it is a question of soliciting volumes of votes/allies for 2012. Somebody like Motlanthe (who btw, I cannot believe would want to be associated with a brainless fetid little swine, for any longer than what is required to get the top job) will know that if JM survives much beyond 2012 – he will be like a pit-bull with rabies that’s @arse is soaked with turpentine, getting worse by the day. JM is currently under disciplinary “parole” and look how he is behaving. If Zuma cannot control him – how will the insipid Motlanthe do it..? No surprise then that JM wants him as the boss. The ANC’s corruption- and crime network/syndicate expands beyond our wildest dreams. It has become like the mafia – everyone his holding a gun to someone’s head, while at the same time having gun against your own head. cont. below..,

      Spyker May - 2011-08-09 00:15

      The ANC’s crime syndicate expands not only to- and into almost every aspect of SA society, it goes far beyond, eg Europe.., but most pertinently across a northern border, onto a topic the BBC has recently reported on. Who knows, who knows what and how much..? It is like doing the toi-toi on the tip of a sword, while reaching for your machine gun...

      iranianprince - 2011-08-09 00:23

      This Julius Malema- or BAAS as Jacob calls him, is a little Pikinini that's telling the Elders to move aside. They sit in Lutuli house asking each other 'What will uncle Julius say?' Most countries are asking, 'who should we talk to? who's in charge? Should we run every thing passed the YL first? If this little man can put the leadership in such a spin then the leadership of the cANCer is a scary bunch of little men that need to go to 'politics for dummies 101'

      Komasa - 2011-08-09 06:20

      Spyker you have some good points there but the one I disagree with is your point on Motlanthe. Motlanthe is an educated gentleman and his presence amongst black south africans commands respect and in dealing with JM he will not sink to the level JM operates on. He is the one person who I believe will pull JM back into line.

      radarblip - 2011-08-09 07:40

      @Komasa: Lord knows i think we all hope that you are right!

      Greg - 2011-08-09 09:41

      I agree with Marco. If the ANCYL are actually more powerful than the state president and Governemnt as a whole and no-one can control them, then there has been a coup and we have been made fools of!! SA is going the same way as Zims. Why not raise a counter force to the ANCYL that can provide GREAT leadership, irrespective of colour???

      p123 - 2011-08-09 09:44

      ANC are just so useless, don't have the balls to take on that thug Malema. Zuma only how to pruduce children with his .....

      Fred - 2011-08-09 12:12

      Fully agree. It's like toothpaste. You let some out of the tube because you want to use it, but if you have let out too much, you can't put it back into the tube. The ANC Zuma-faction unleashed this loud-mouthed looney because he was useful to them at the time, but he grew like a fungus, and they can't get rid of him now because they don't have the balls to clamp down on him. So he is almost single-handedly, with help from the ineffectiveness of the ANC, destroying our country. If the ANC can't discipline one of their minions, how the hell are they supposed to run the country???? I think the results are showing for themselves.

      Looking@SA - 2011-08-09 14:28

      @spyker may and marco. Just a thought from the outside looking in. It's been 17 years since the end of apartheid. The % of black SA population under 30 is in the mid 30%. That means for more than half their life they have been told that life will get better and for a very large % of these people life hasn't gotten better. JM tells them that if they nationalize the mines, banks, and take the farms without compensation all of them will get a piece of the pie. Doesn't matter that its not true the pie isn't that big. Doesn't even matter that this talk is making the pie shrink, what does matter is that they (the black SAfricans who are under 30) and that they reelect JM and they support him. So the ANC realizes that he can in fact determine the next ANC president and they have to listen to him. Its sad to watch but because the ANC in 17 years hasn't done anything about the poverty of the fastest growing population demographic they now are between the proverbial rock and hard place. JM's ideas will ruin the country but to discipline him will destroy them. Unfortunately in SA the tail is, at this moment, wagging the dog.

      Spyker May - 2011-08-09 16:54

      @Komasa, Within the constraints of the 'comments-column' we are limited TO notions that can be interpreted in many ways. Re Mr Motlanthe (very concisely): I share your respect, as I do for all bona fide intelligent, -moderate people (ie ladies and gentlemen, of all peoples) with -vision, in ANY political party. Under such people we ALL have a future. However, I also recognise he finds himself, in a near impossibly complex situation. There are a number of factions fighting for the ANC brand (this has been the case since Mandela left office). These factions range from a moderate core (with a long-term vision for SA, based on an intelligent plan, that optimises ALL the talents of ALL SAcans) to a mafia-style crime-syndicate who will unscrupulously employ all the state functions to steal-, murder- and any means necessary, to enrich themselves and (critically) exterminate all those (individuals and groups alike) who stand in their way. At the moment, the said criminal mafia is holding (certain) pivotal positions, in parliament and alike. This ‘mafia’ took power at Polokwane ’07. I am not implying it is still an intact group today – like any crime syndicate, one of its key threats are in-fighting, mostly as it consists of elements who’s unquenchable greed encompasses all rational thinking (eg such psycho-maniacs will never get enough, even after destroying everything, they still want more) and while they initially have a common goal, they quickly get in each other’s way.

      siya.block - 2011-08-10 08:42

      ANC leadership has acted correctly.... ANCYL is actualy is voicing the feeling of many in the ANC. If it had acted against the ANCYL, at whose mandate would they have done that. There was no discussion within the ANC branches (where I belong) about Botswana.... I strongly feel Khama is a puppet of the west, he is their mouthpiece.

      Prayoneday - 2011-08-10 12:26

      Comrades these pigs , they will not bite lets nationalise comrades , the day of anarchy is around the corner ... oh the horror

  • Stufflé - 2011-08-08 22:47

    Gotta love this chap. Wot vill de neeuss bi wifout her?

      Neil - 2011-08-09 03:40

      Sorry, the words "may be punished" just does not do it for me. He screws up every day and gets away with it. "May be punished" is just another ANC lie. Nothing will happen to him. Perhaps I should get a stupid cap (ANCYL/ANC CAP) and just maybe I might see some logic in all their BS with it on my head. How the hell do you put yourself in that "I am an idiot" mindset to even try and make sense with these clowns logic, seriously.

      Joe_Public - 2011-08-09 09:24


  • Thouca - 2011-08-08 22:49

    come on tokyo or cyril...klap this boy good and proper......he has pissed all over everything you negotiated and gave birth to...lets see some balls here

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-08-08 23:48

      I recently stopped voting ANC, but Tokyo, Cyril, Mothlanthe with Manuel and Hanekom being given big roles would potentially woo me back if they acted with moral courage. Rob Davies is also quite good I think - but Manuel back at finance for 5% a year growth again please.

      v3 - 2011-08-09 09:19

      I suppose the good news is that Inkwenkwe did not discipline the ANC "top six".

      p123 - 2011-08-09 09:49

      ANC leadership has no balls!!!

  • Glenn - 2011-08-08 22:53

    Postpone = cancel

      Jamesons - 2011-08-09 08:39

      if the ANC dont get rid of melema, this country will never unite and grow as a nation.

  • Schalk - 2011-08-08 22:56

    LOL! "They realised during their meeting that some of the issues they intended raising with the ANCYL were transgressions which could lead to disciplinary action, said Mantashe." I wonder if they also uncovered some other very subtle and well-hidden truths during this meeting of the enlightened. Stuff like 'we need to fix basic education to fix the country' or 'we need to get rid of the culture of entitlement within our electorate' or 'we need to employ people on merit within governmental positions of great social responsibility'. Yeah, one can always dream right...?

      Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-08-08 23:35

      "If you don't have a dream, How you gonna have a dream come true? " (Happy Talk - South Pacific) It would appear that beneath the veneer of our esteemed "leadership", lies nothing more than puff and dust. They are, without doubt, the acme of prevarication, vascillation, obfuscation and procrastination all in one inconvenient package. It's positively Shakespearean.

      Left Screwed - 2011-08-09 00:18

      @ Rev. H-Cubed...........ANC has put the procrastination debate off till another day.

      Komasa - 2011-08-09 07:08

      Rev. absolute drivel!!

      ZotBot - 2011-08-09 07:33

      @ Komasa, oh my oh my, I see there's a new ANC blind sheep born every day, just how fast are they breeding you guys ??? Eish, please help us e-Jesuuuuuuuz, help us Got. I'm look job.

      Komasa - 2011-08-09 08:09

      Well if you are a 'Zot' it would be goat not a sheep.

      v3 - 2011-08-09 09:20

      Rev H-Cubed Those words don't exist in Pedi, how can they be doing that?

      Fred - 2011-08-09 12:18

      What they probably realised, was - "Whoops, Malema has something on each of us that we don't want the voters to know, so we had better humour him before he lets the cat out of the bag."

  • Macho Mike - 2011-08-08 22:58

    Eish, da ANC, she more does practise the "long neck" voel principal - da Ostrich principal for those non Capies. Bury head in sand and hope she da big problem does dissappear. Da cowards have no balls to deal with Pinochio head on.

  • Reaperman - 2011-08-08 23:02

    Dissiplinere aksie...oooh nee, net nie dit nie!!!!!!!! Bunch of wank3rs!!!

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-08-08 23:12

    So ANC incompetent-corrupt-teen-puppydog is biting the hands that raised the little racist. Good on you! JZ silence echoes Malema's thoughts. Any fool in the world can see the numnut is out of control and stupid

      Left Screwed - 2011-08-09 00:08

      JZ is playing Malema like a fiddle, or it the other way round? There's no reading between the lines in that circus

  • marco - 2011-08-08 23:26

    ****ing hell who is charge of South Africa?The government of the ANC or their ANC Youth League?And please don't tell me both.For that is ****ing ridiculous!This ANC Youth League is bloody out of order,blimey.And what's their business in Botswana anyway?What are they beefing about over there?And all this talk regarding regime change over there?Have I missed something or what!!These ANC Youth League are becoming more and more like far-right religious fundamentalist and political extremists the way they behave and carries on.

  • Sprinkaan - 2011-08-08 23:37

    Zuma is a sussie

  • BrokenLink - 2011-08-08 23:59

    I use to prefer Motlanthe over Zuma....but that would mean I would agree with the ANCYL. Clearly I must be wrong.

      Hester - 2011-08-09 03:51

      I thought the exact same thing! Until I read that the ANCYL is supporting him...mmm suddenly I'm suspicious of Motlanthe.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-08-08 23:59

    LMAO! Guess who is running the country? It sure ain't Zuma. Malema and ANCYL using Zuma and the ANC as a footmat to clean the bottom of their shoes while the climb their way to the top. The ANC are left toothless and gutless. The monster youth league child they helped create now has them shaking in the boots. Too scared and too late to discipline the child.

      R.Suppards - 2011-08-09 00:22

      HI Vela, I did not Plagiarise your post, we are both on the same wavelength. Regards R. Suppards

  • R.Suppards - 2011-08-09 00:18

    ANC " LEADERSHIP?" have had their teeth extracted, can't even give Malema a nasty suck. GUTLESS, ABSOLUTELY GUTLESS. They all fear losing their taxpayer funded positions.

  • jockvanwyk - 2011-08-09 00:24

    may lead to disciplinary action?Well i should think so!

  • OZNOB - 2011-08-09 00:31

    methinks that our dear friend julius has more chance of falling pregnant than getting disciplined

      ian - 2011-08-09 04:23

      hopefully with him in prison the boys will get practice

      ZotBot - 2011-08-09 07:35

      Rubbish OZNOB, everyone knows you can't get pregnant when rammed in the back door. Ju Ju has tried but to no avail. The only thing Malema is carrying is a big turd.

  • Roland Slater - 2011-08-09 00:37

    The ANC top-brass has been appeasing Malema for years now. Appeasement was the Allies policy in Europe for 5 years of Adolf Hitler's reign in Germany, they just kept on allowing him to do what he wanted to do...and we all know how that turned out...

      amos - 2011-08-13 16:55

      Exactly like how the westerners are appeasing Zionist apartheid Israel.

  • FutureProductions - 2011-08-09 01:02

    Methinks the ANC is using the ANCYL with Malema to reach their real goal without making their own mouths or hands dirty...

  • Supermack - 2011-08-09 01:09

    Should Julis Malema not have been arrested and handed over to the Botswana government? If I as a white person and in charge of a white organisation stated in public that we were going to organise the overthrow of a government (say Zimbabwe) from the soil of South Africa, would the the ANC allow me to do this? Why are our so-called intelligence organisations allowing such actions to be launched from South Africa and what other groups are being allowed to operate here. Judging from the reponse of the ANC to ANCYL statement (a mere it is not our policy), it would not surprise me to find out that there are groups in South Africa that actively support terrorism against the west, acting with the knowledge of the government.

  • Dan - 2011-08-09 01:12

    Yep this assylum is run by the inmates

  • Screamer - 2011-08-09 01:21

    Either's a big mess.

  • ohzipit - 2011-08-09 01:23

    Good luck to you all. I see a large toilet bowl and africa spinning around and around in the bottom. Julius will surely pull the chain and flush you all.

  • Gargmel - 2011-08-09 03:04

    Forget about what Malema said about nationalisation or Botswana, nail the little fat thief for fraud and corruption.

  • FartaWorks - 2011-08-09 03:08

    Welcome to the ANC Cirque du Soleil! My name is Juju Fatboy Malema and I will be your ringmaster tonight. Behold ladies and gentlemen, we have some great new performances in stall for you. So, without further ado, we will kick-off our show tonight with an amazing magical performance by the one and only ANC Masters of Charlatans wannabe trapeze artists. This trick, ladies and gentlemen, has never been performed anywhere else on this planet. In this trick, the ANC Masters of Charlatans will, with the aid of smoke and mirrors, gag, and strap me in a strait-jacket used by the Great Harry Houdini himself. I will demonstrate to you that I am, in fact, a better escape artist than that white imperialist, Harry Houdini…

  • Marwaareed - 2011-08-09 04:05

    ANC should especially be ever watchful over Malema's behaviour and mete out appropriate punishment according to circumstances!

  • ian - 2011-08-09 04:26

    hand the piece of crap over to botswana so they can charge him with treason and yes botswana has the death penalty, one of the reasons why it functions so well unlike here with criminals running the show

  • Daniel Jones - 2011-08-09 05:24

    There really is only one solution. Floyd and his b1atch Julius must receive a bullet right between the eyes.

      R.I.P - 2011-08-09 15:21


  • lapfa - 2011-08-09 05:29

    Malema and the ANC are the voices of the voiceless. DA and print media are the voices of the rich(mainly white capitalists who gained wealth through land seizures).

      photofreak - 2011-08-09 15:30

      oh phuleez, we are so sick of that line.

      R.I.P - 2011-08-09 15:33


      R.I.P - 2011-08-09 15:34


  • Marwaareed - 2011-08-09 05:40

    ANC show favouritism and justice has never been meted out according to Malema's past actions! The cycle of no justice and orderliness!?

  • pitbull - 2011-08-09 06:07

    I think it is time I stop reading this news page. News24 dedicates too much coverage to Malema and all it does is depress me.

      Seanred - 2011-08-09 09:04

      Take a chill pill.

  • kingkong - 2011-08-09 06:36

    and i believe the moon is made of cheese the top brass of the spineless , useless ,anc are shiverring in their boots they are s....t scared of malema but they hope as with all the other things it will sort itself out well it wont and i can tell you now zuma your ticket is punched you will get of the bus in Manaung i hope Mr Mothlante gets this job he acts , and speak more like a president and he gained my respect

  • Motivator - 2011-08-09 06:56

    If the daddy keeps delaying discipline over months/years, what message does it send to the child? Does the daddy know about passionate accountability and commitment? Is the child cleverly playing divide and conquer? Does the daddy have a better vision than the child? Does the daddy nurture these useful things? Does the daddy face a tough BUDDY (Bitter Uneconomical Disempowerment very broadly based on Disilusioned Youth)? The aging grand daddy didn't -his vision was decisive accountability to unify and empower and lead Africa. All the world's a stage ...except a very few.

  • P!NK - 2011-08-09 08:01

    Whatever, speculation, nothing will happen... trying to baffle people with bullsh%t

  • Newsferret - 2011-08-09 08:03

    I am not holding my breath.

  • Jamesons - 2011-08-09 08:04

    I will call another person at work a racist if they say they support the ANC. I think it says a lot about people who support the ANC, they are racist. For the ANC to correct this racial divide that Melema has strongly cause. It will be the best for the ANC to rid /fire the racial melema. Does the ANC really want to go down like this. And is it fair call another person a racist if he/she follow the ANC. Fire millema president. he has given the ANC a bad name and worse, our belovered country.

  • WaggaMamma - 2011-08-09 08:12

    Its obvious that these bafoons are scared of the boy, and just don't know how to handle him

  • Dries - 2011-08-09 08:12

    Malema will never be punished. The ANC is afraid of him because him because he is the future President of South Africa and 90% of blacks are behind him.''He is no fool and he is calling out what is in their hearts: "Kill the Boer and the farmer and take all they have". And it is coming. Watch him and them. Keep your powder dry.

      Komasa - 2011-08-09 08:36

      Dries that is a generalistion, our silence is not an indication of our support.

      photofreak - 2011-08-09 15:36

      Komasa - "In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends"

  • Ozymandios - 2011-08-09 08:23

    Maybe Zuma, if he could, (which I seriously doubt) read Shakespeare's Julius Ceasar and think how likely it is for this other Julius will take to stab him in the back. There is every possibility that come Manguang Zuma may go there thinking the Tantrum Kindergarten will vote him back in, but all the time there is another plot being hatched. Its not the first time the Kindergarten have stated they are not happy with Zuma, then they are, then they want Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe to be in charge, and then they love Mbeki again. I think the ANCYL is playing the game of Snakes and Ladders a lot smarter than Zuma knows and he is in my opinion too dumb to see it.They are more powerful and more cunning than that Zulu sitting there - and its sad to see a Zulu, who is in charge, so weak and spineless to such rabble as the Kindergarten because he values his slush lifestyle above that of being in charge. Never ever did I ever think I'd see any Zulu so gormless let alone indecisive as this 'man'.(sic)

  • anton.schmahl - 2011-08-09 08:26

    I am dumbstruck. How can anyone discipline the President; Minister of Agriculture; Minister of Police; Minister of Public Prosecution and all other posts? Malema is the MAN!!!

  • Ozymandios - 2011-08-09 08:39

    News24 how about printing what i send in to your comments file and stop removing them. Freedom of speech no matter how unpleasant is still a right in this land. You may not like what I have to say about Zuma and Malema but removing it as you just have done so shows your own hidden agenda

      Seanred - 2011-08-09 09:08

      Agree, and I wish they would speed up this site. Loading 24 is taking forever.

  • Hugh - 2011-08-09 09:02

    Is their not a law about supporting or aiding an uprising in another african country?

  • Mark - 2011-08-09 09:12

    The ANC is just too weak to do anything... - In fact, it looks like the ANCYL is far more powerful than the ANC at the moment.... will be very difficult to reign in now as the ANC has let to much go for far too long

      R.I.P - 2011-08-09 16:52


  • v3 - 2011-08-09 09:18

    In my culture, as Jacob 783 likes to say, there is a story of a Dr Faust who sold his soul to the Devil; and another story of a man who created a monster that came back to haunt him (Frankenstein) killing his loved ones. In any culture, archetypal myths like these are accepted and retold because they convey deep truths. The ANC sold its soul gradually: I suggest it began when it substituted a Stalin's "ends justify the means" for Gandhi's "take care of the means and the ends will take care of themselves". Certainly, a party that kept quiet over Hitler's or Stalin's reigns of terror & human rights abuses will not fuss over Gaddafi's or Msweti's. Another nail in the coffin for the ANC was appointing the racist Thabo Mbkeki as leader. Any doubt about its direction ended with the appointment of the sexist and racist "vile buffoon" they now have. Prior to his elevation several journos tried to probe his economic policies or his vision for the country only to be met with charm and evasion. At least no-one can say he has betrayed the platform on which he became ANC boss: pure survival & ducking the corruption charges. In my culture we also say "what goes around comes around" & "karma is a bitch". By allowing Malema free reign and not disciplining him when he was vilifying ANC opponents (with racist labels like "madam", "tea girl", and the like), its leaders in fact endorsing him by appearing on stages with him, the ANC created the Frankenstein that has taken over its soul.

      Komasa - 2011-08-09 11:07

      @v3 your culture has misinformed you there were thousands of black soldiers in WW2 from SA, who had non-combatant roles such as digging trenches, driving, cooking and strecher bearers. Those killed in combat were buried, as instructed by the SA government , in seperate graveyards to those of the white soldiers. Your sarcasm is a result of your lack of moral breeding and a symptom of your western culture.

      Dan Grey - 2011-08-09 13:52

      @Komasa Care to provide some proof? Or is it merely another black myth.

  • oldone - 2011-08-09 09:21

    Last week Malema said the ANCYL was sending a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties, as it believed the government there was "in full co-operation with imperialists" and undermining the "African agenda". What is the African agenda??

      Kent007 - 2011-08-09 16:56

      To take and to take more

  • Kevin - 2011-08-09 09:28

    The ANC top echelons are chicken. Malema & the ANCYL have made a diplomatic gaffe which will weaken the ANC Govt,s diplomatic efforts both regionally and internationally. Take that criminal Mugabe and his criminal clique, they must be thinking lets wait the Zuma administration out and Malema/ANCYL will replace them with people who think unlawful land grabs, genocide and cimes against humanity are fine as long as you criticise the West. The little kinglet in Swaziland needs to think that his cosy deals with the ANC may get him in trouble with the ANCYL so he had better make some ridiculous statement supporting Ghaddafi. If the ANC Govt want the world to take them seriously then they need to act decisively against the fools who would embarass it. Thabo Mbeki only has to look at the reaction to malema's statements on Botswana to see why the world does take African Leaders and the AU seriously.

  • Sinudeity - 2011-08-09 09:43

    Thats great, because the ANCYL is the 'kingmaker', you will allow our country to go into discourse until the 2012 elections. **** you ANC.

  • directedatu - 2011-08-09 10:10

    It's people like Julius Malema who makes it hard for me to convice racists not to be racist. And I think it's high time that the ANC place a muzzle on him. Maybe get rid of him for good and not allow him to even form part of the youth league. They would win the respect of a lot of white voters who feel that Malema's comments are racist in nature.

  • Vince York - 2011-08-09 10:21

    ANC less than a million members being controlled by an uncontrolled not young directionless zanu-styled league of approximately 300,000 and the nation of more than 50 million quakes and shakes in terror[NOT], like the leadership blowing with the wind and seeking firstly more riches and a bit of longevity regardless of any sustainability or accountability, ethos or morality? {failure of leadership to comprehend the importance of the very bastions of democracy that they have striven to annihilate} Real resolution would be to CUT OFF THE MONEY flow to the league completely, and address the root problems (dis-allowing illicit trenderpreneurship and money laundering soothed by deployed cadres) so that it will benefit the average middle class South African of all citizenry and not merely a politically charged party hegemoney. Penalty and payback and jail-terms where necessary will be the visible leadership our society needs at this time - not spineless dithering. GET OUR COUNTRY BACK ON COURSE MAN!

  • phola nsikaz - 2011-08-09 10:23

    malema has gone too far now,the boy need to be told that he should shut up now,the ancyl to them this rhetoric about helping the poor while malema is biz benefitting from state tenders make them revolutionaries,its utterly nonsense.

  • CPII - 2011-08-09 11:01

    Like the DA said, this is going to split the ANC. Let's do sums. Assume Malema draws 60% of the ANC following, his new party will have only 60% of the ANC's national lead of 62%, based on the 2011 elections. Thus they will end up with ONLY 36% and the old ANC leftovers with 26%. All of a sudden the DA looks much more relevant. Bring on 2014!

  • dsdjs - 2011-08-09 11:05