Ruling a step against racism: Afrikanerbond

2011-09-12 14:31

Johannesburg - The hate speech judgment against ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema is the first step to non-racism, the Afrikanerbond said on Monday.

"This is a necessary first step to force Mr Julius Malema in particular, but also other high profile politicians and public figures, to be responsible and careful in the use of certain words," said secretary Jan Bosman in a statement.

"The race-card, based on suspicion, hatred and lies, is now regularly played. The inevitable consequence is that the broad South African society is becoming more race-based and divided along racial lines."

Racism "in whatever colour and whatever form" must be rejected, he said.

The Afrikanerbond felt that Malema's various statements since 2009 divided South Africa and undermined constitutional values.

He said hate speech comments were a threat to the safety of the public and to state security.

It welcomed the finding in the South Gauteng High Court that Malema's singing of the "dubhula ibhunu" (shoot the boer) song amounted to hate speech.

Bosman said the next step was for the Human Rights Commission to evaluate and assess Malema's pronouncements within the Bill of Rights context, said Bosman.

He claimed a total of 510 hate speech complaints, including the singing of "shoot the boer", were lodged with the commission against Malema.

"Our information is that the National Prosecuting Authority's provincial heads... have given the necessary permission for an investigative hearing by the HRC in which Mr Malema will be subpoenaed to testify."

The Afrikanerbond had met the commission and Malema's legal representatives to discuss the process for an investigative hearing.

"The date of the... hearing was not yet determined at the time of the meeting but it seemed as if the date was based in anticipation on the ruling of the High Court," said Bosman.

  • saabnut - 2011-09-12 14:38

    i hope they throw the book at him. And then INVESTIGATE his finances once his smokescreen has cleared. Trough pig deluxe.

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-12 14:47

      rather throw a brick at him

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-12 14:48

      he cant read the book anyway

      Antoine - 2011-09-12 14:49

      I also have a Saab -but it drives me nuts.

      kalabafazi - 2011-09-12 14:53

      The book has reportedly been stolen. A reliable source has claimed that the book was being used to often to berrate ANC members. The fact that many of them were able to dodge the book did not distract from the fact that it was being thrown at them, very often out of context. It has been further reported that the book will be copied and used to throw at ANCYL members from the windows of Luthuli House.

      Mr Wendal - 2011-09-12 15:04

      Anyone seen my woodwork book? Eish, ama gonna fail this things ne?

  • Jon JJ - 2011-09-12 14:38

    Eish, Malema thought that it's only white guys that can be found guilty of being racist. He thought his black skin can make him exempt from being a racist for the rest of his life. Shame, poor idiot!!

  • Ruan Smith - 2011-09-12 14:39


  • David - 2011-09-12 14:40

    Viva the constitution!

      willieman - 2011-09-12 15:00

      it is very good to follow the law,i would appreciate it when Afriforum could be consistance when highlighting issues of racism,they should not look ONLY at what some black folks are doing,but their own as well

  • Buic Unix - 2011-09-12 14:42

    im drunk on this issue about to passout

      O-Kay - 2011-09-12 14:48


  • daaivark - 2011-09-12 14:45

    And now just to try and get all the many hate-mongers from all the many faces of extremism on this site to try to act like humans. That will be a tough job. Putting Malema in his place will prove child's play in comparison. Racism on sites like this has reached epidemic proportions, on both sides of a colour-divide that should no longer be an issue.

      happycamper - 2011-09-12 15:00

      it's a true reflection on how Malema re-opened the devide...

      happycamper - 2011-09-12 15:02

      the separation of races - we were doing so well until he came along.

      daaivark - 2011-09-12 15:07

      you reckon, happy? Just read a few of today's posts.

      Colin - 2011-09-12 15:15

      if the current government would stop blaming us for their faults, stop inciting the masses towards murder and stop oppressing whites with aa en bee then it would help, but on the other hand keep it going, i'll survive but then don't expect me to have any goodwill towards them

  • Dragons berg - 2011-09-12 14:46

    racism will stop, if you stop thinking about it. I wont call you by color or calling words, i will call you by your name. The human race has a very complex mind and sadly for most people the answer i gave before typing this sentence, only a handful will accomplish.

  • cat8fish - 2011-09-12 14:46

    thanks Judge for teaching Mr Julius a lesson

  • beicime - 2011-09-12 14:46

    Will Malema care about it? Malema is a "thing" of its own.

  • Antoine - 2011-09-12 14:48

    And Kudos to the courageous judge. 'Gives us the idea that fairness amongst the SAn judiciary still has a chance -for the time being, at least.

      daaivark - 2011-09-12 15:07


  • Angie Mansa - 2011-09-12 14:49

    It is definitely about time. He is the kind of person who is preventing South Africa from moving forward - and allhis followers are just brain washed and believe his lies and promises. All he does is wind them up. South Africa can only move forward when he who shall not be named is taken out of the public eye for ever and ever - him and all others like him.

  • vegetarian - 2011-09-12 14:49

    Why is this country infested with so many rihgtwing outfits. What is Afrikanerbond by the way? What does it stand for? Does is mean anything to our people? The sooner these people realize that the time for imposing their wish is over our people is over , the better. Our people and their aspirations are being frustrated by these rightwing outfits, including the DA. The only solution is to pass a set of laws to deal with this threat once and for all.

      Kenno - 2011-09-12 15:06

      Who are " Our people?"

      daaivark - 2011-09-12 15:08

      Nonsense. It's in your head.

      RuthK - 2011-09-12 15:54

      Ha ha ha, you are so funny! surely your comment must be a joke. Please contact joe Parker comedy club, you should be the opening act.

      Da.Liva.Delvira - 2011-09-12 16:07

      Vegetarian not to say that you are a numb skull or anything... But........... Check out Cape Town my bru... Very clean city!!! Durban, Johannesburg, Not so clean cities... Cape town = DA Government Yes I won't say that crime in CPT is low but those DA people are trying!!! Almost every little thing, they look into, where as other parties don't even bother with what the people of S.A want and need. I'm not white, stating that again on this website, but I rather be under white rule than black rule... Good example... Back in the days, before 1994, if you were stuck on the road going some where, you could leave your vehicle and come back the next morning and everything would still be there. Today you not even safe while driving, at a stop sign, at a traffic light, IN YOUR OWN HOMES!!!! So you tell me, what is the importance of life??? Security, safety, respect, dignity.... And you know what??? Screw the law and the holy books out there!!! Any human being with a conscience does not need those books and man made laws to tell you the importance of life. It's common sense and general knowledge and most of all it is HUMAN!!! I apologize if I have offended anybody with what I have said, but I am pissed off with all this hatred!!!

      Jacqueline - 2011-09-12 16:09

      Who are "these people" ?

      Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-09-12 19:16

      The only set of laws to be passed should be this... No minority nation (against whom there is racist laws against) should be required to pay tax. Every community should only pay taxes to their own upliftment. To put it plainly... Only nations who contributed to scientific research must benefit from it. (i.e discoveries like automobiles etc.) Veggie - I you want to act like a veggie don't expect us to treat you any different - We / I owe u feukoll !!!

  • Shadoz - 2011-09-12 14:50

    Great news !!

  • Born To Fish - 2011-09-12 14:51

    Just make sure he is punished, or is this the might of our law that we normally hear politicians referring to?

  • Peter James Erasmus - 2011-09-12 14:51

    I guess this is what you get when one draws to much attention to itself. Nobody should be above the law!!!

      dragonben - 2011-09-12 15:02

      The nail that stands out gets hammered!

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-09-12 18:47

      I know of several people on this site and in RL that are getting hammered right now off this news XD

  • Kenno - 2011-09-12 15:00

    @ Eurocentric Are you bored?? get a life! Enough of your outbursts. Get a soap box outside the city hall and go and sing your sad song!

  • happycamper - 2011-09-12 15:04

    jump on the band wagon....

  • eric.vanvuuren - 2011-09-12 15:04

    So then, this means the ANCYL is a racist organisation run by hate-mongering bigots. And a terrorist organisation, for wanting to overthrow the Botswana government. Interesting, now its official.

  • Mariana - 2011-09-12 15:06

    If a black man is racist, is it okay? If it's the white man's racism that made him that way, Because the bully's the victim they say, By some sense they're all the same.Because the line between, Wrong and right, Is the width of a thread, From a spider's web. - Katie Melua

  • pitbull - 2011-09-12 15:07

    Fantastic!! Now maybe we can get on with our lives without being inflicted with this racist crap.

  • PRN - 2011-09-12 15:08

    Like the pot calling the kettle black......

  • crackerr - 2011-09-12 15:08

    @ Eurocentric I will not bother to read further than your the first comment. I recall having read the other comment you make on other threads. You talk crap. You like an economic food chain that suits you? Create your own. MANY blacks are doing very well. As one of the commentators said here the other day, do the robot test. Observe the fancy care drivers and passengers at a convenient robot near you. Black? White? Do the test yourself. The blacks and the whites you may observe in luxury vehicles and even more moderate means of transport are entitled to the level of material well being they have carved out for themselves. You will not create the same level of self-sufficiency if you start with political clap-trap which does not add real value to the economy. One gets the impression that the natural losers like yourself want whites to abstain from economic activities. Dream on. Economies that provide also for social grants have no business with silly restrictions. The time is approaching that this country will not tolerate black advancement based on racial regulations. You should cultivate a dream in which ability and honesty determines ones' material well-being. The rest of society will move ahead. Without cutting its nose to such a bad extent that nothing of the face is left. Try at least not to just cut and paste. Come with some refreshing ideas or analysis. Or at least a different angle.

  • McFreak - 2011-09-12 15:11

    @eurocentric - very philosophical. What are YOU doing to correct these injustices etc? All I see is 'cut and paste' initiatives. Do you actively become involved in improving the lot of the impoverished or are you one of the passive liberals who sit on the fence waiting to pounce on discussions and berate is with stuff we already know?!!?

  • Welties - 2011-09-12 15:13

    It always makes me smile! As long as Malema (and all the others) sing there Kill the Farmer song its fine, because its part of their heritage, and they believe this. Well I as a 60 something white male have grown up using the "ka----" word all my life, and until 15 years ago used it regularly. I stopped using it because it was no longer acceptable and because I was told that it sowed disention amongst he groups. It was part og my heritage to use it, just as much as "Kill the boer" is part of Malema's heritage. If he is allowed, or just continues to sing it, why cant I use the word "ka---r". Can someone please explain to me!.

  • Derek - 2011-09-12 15:21

    The Afrikanerbond sprouting the virtues of a non racial South Africa, amazing, it wasn't long ago when their ilk were arguing the virtues of genocide.

  • Annette Van Pletzen - 2011-09-12 15:21

    Eurocentric really has a board (not a chip) on his shoulder.Take off your blinkers and look at the bigger picture.Who are always the do gooders for the poor maybe you are colour blind as well.Get over it.

  • Felix - 2011-09-12 15:22

    Makhubele aka Eurocentric please stop copying and pasting you bull here, keep it on your facebook page. Racist bigot.

  • Engineer66 - 2011-09-12 15:23

    The rhetoric is entirely consistent. Whites are criminals, they stole the land so we expropriate the land with no compensation". Also "Shoot the boer". Malema, his cohorts and the ANCYL hate whites, plain and simple and he continues to feed this line. He follows in the footsteps of Mugabe. Even more alarming are the parallels with pre-war Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler if you watch the man his frenzied mob. A poor indictment indeed when the ruling party can't even conduct their business in their own HQ. Where are the cops and the army to put a stop this lawlessness once and for all.

  • Mouthful - 2011-09-12 15:31

    the difference between malema and people who comment here is only one malema is a racist and everybody can see it and the news24 readers who mostly constitute of white people try so hard to make excuses for being racists.

      Felix - 2011-09-12 15:35

      So sorry I didn't get that. Try swallowing before you speak.

      Jacqueline - 2011-09-12 16:17

      I think you meant "CONSIST", not "constitute". Also, punctuation is a great way to separate your words and for coherent sentences. You really should try it sometime. It will make it seem you actually know what you are talking about.

  • Dave - 2011-09-12 15:35

    Please explain to me Eurocentric how come there are many very successfull honest black businessmen out there that endured and suffered through the apartheid period, did they work hard? was it given to them for nothing? did it just fall into their laps and they just "became successfull" or was it by hard work and brains?

  • Ghost-SA - 2011-09-12 15:46

    @Eurocentric, are you mental challenged, let’s go back in time before the white man came let’s say 524 years P.S they weren’t white they were Portuguese. South Africa was a land with literally no technology.. not even the wheel .. wow.. they had wheels 3000 BC that's more than 3000 years if you did not know.... so we oppressed you by bringing toilet paper and farming and industry and roads o yes and the wheel, and all the things you like and yes you were oppresses like every weaker race through all of time, look at the Egyptians they oppresses millions and made them work till they died, the Persians and on and on… at one point in history everyone was oppressed if you want to see oppresses look at the native Americans...they had it bad you had a field day in comparison. Peace and may the moon pandas smile on you..

  • tdebwe - 2011-09-12 16:04

    Racism has no place in Africa,Malema a disgrace to Africa-Trueman Debwe- Zimbabwe

  • dugie - 2011-09-12 16:05

    Aah Eurocentric if you lot (and by that I mean those with lots to say but no work ethic) decided to work for your money and not wait for handouts you might find that like industrious white people you to can get somewhere. No doubt the colonialist have a lot to account for plundering africa for her raw materials and cheap labour and accrueing huge profits back home...........whats changed ? ANC have done fantastic deals with china, BHP get cheap raw materials, electricity at cost, export incentives and then we import our own aluminium etc back from them at a "processed" premium, same with mittal........BRILLIANT. And then ask yourself how it took the Oppenheimers a 100 years to build anglo and for them to accrue over a billion rand in personal wealth - patrice motsepe did it in 10 years - his bonds of opression holding him down must have been pretty loose or maybe, novel as it might sound, he took charge of things himself ???? And then this constant moaning about our benefiting from apartheid - ja i can't argue that 1 too because clearly we did even if only distantly BUT for the 100's of years black africans lived unopposed in southern africa what was the sum of their achievements in comparison to europe - a kaya and a kraal - so if you're hankering for those days off you go.

  • 49M - 2011-09-12 16:09

    Good on the Judge, not such an easy decision in my opinion (considering Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights) but the right one... I think we should be careful on the one hand to want to nail Julius, but on the other cry out against the proposed Protection of Information Act. Messing with Freedom of Speech is a slippery slope...

  • AJS - 2011-09-12 16:48

    Is anyone really that naive to think that this ruling is going to change anything. It's about as naive as it is to think that malema or his views is going to disappear into thin air. Mark my words, one day in the near future South Africa will stand with it's hat in it's hand begging from the very same imperialists it want's to kill and chase from it's shores. The wealth that will be taken will land in the pockets of the select few and will not create new wealth.

  • Sanity_Check - 2011-09-12 16:53

    I am so tired of this!! Just deal with him.

  • On the Verge - 2011-09-12 17:29

    @ eurocentric...and so the circle of life continues. Man has always stolen from one another, and will contiue to do so in the fight for survival. You seem to forget that before 'white' man reached these shores, the Zulu's were the oppressors, and stole plenty of land from the San, among others. The difference is that White man were more advanced, and thus instead of just chasing the native away, destroying the land, and then moving on, they used and abused the native, but made the most of the land. Now it is the turn of the chinese and muslim, whom are slowly re-colognising africa and the world. Black man will never again own africa, as they are simply not as advanced as the other races. This is not a racical statement, it is simply an unfortunate fact - I wish it was not the case, as I would love to see black man advance himself - but I honestly believe that too many years of nomadic, subsistence life, without the effect of war, and industrial revolution, has left black africans too far behind, and now with the information era upon us it is simply too much of a quantum leap to catch up. So you can call it opression, but the reality is that it's the survival of the fitest...

  • BOER - 2011-09-12 18:58

    Kick him out of his office.

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