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Malema ruling must be respected - ANCWL

2012-03-01 11:50

Johannesburg - The decision to expel ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema should be respected for the sake of preventing further damage to the ruling party, the ANC Women's League said on Thursday.

"The ANCWL feels it is unfortunate that it had to come to this, where a member was expelled from the organisation, however we believe the decision of the ANC should be respected and upheld," it said.

"The [national disciplinary committee] is an important ANC structure and we call on all structures of the ANC to respect the outcomes of this process and refrain from damaging the organisation's unity and reputation further."

ANC Women's League spokesperson Troy Martens would not elaborate on the damage to the ANC's reputation. This was all the ANCWL wanted to say on the matter.

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ANCWL national executive committee member Winnie Madikizela-Mandela supported Malema last year by sitting with him during his hate speech trial at the South Gauteng High Court in Johannesburg.

She later introduced him to crowds gathered outside the court as the country's future president.

On February 4, after the national disciplinary committee's (NDC) findings were released, the three visited Madikizela-Mandela at her home in Soweto.

Malema was expelled from the ANC on Wednesday, but has two weeks to appeal the decision. The NDC found Malema guilty of sowing division in the party and of bringing the organisation into disrepute.

ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu was suspended from the ANC for three years for swearing at a journalist and for issuing a statement supporting a change of government in Botswana, in contradiction of ANC policy.

Secretary general Sindiso Magaqa's membership was suspended for three years, but the sanction itself was suspended for three years, provided he apologises to Public Enterprises Minister Malusi Gigaba within 15 days, and there are no other party offences during the period of suspension.

They have 14 days to appeal.

Comments
  • Gigo - 2012-03-01 11:58

    How do you respect stupid decisions in the first place?I mean even a blind person can see that the charges were supposed to be resolved politically. No WL we won't respect NDC findings...

      Werner - 2012-03-01 12:15

      @Sganja-Uhm no chance you and MAL-EMA went to the same School? The 1 where MUGABE was the Principle?

      Bruce - 2012-03-01 12:28

      The only stupid decison here was to allow this inbred clown in a leadership position in the first place. Africa has had enough racist nonsense and dictators. How much longer must the people of this continent suffer under narrow minded oppressors who claim they have the best interests of the poor and majority at heart but in truth they are more concerned about lining their own pockets and bank accounts (read breitling watches and fancy clothes) in white first world countries where their families live in slendour and gluttony? While his illetarate countrymen cheer him on when driving in his white man luxury vehicle all the while their stomachs empty just like their futures are? No Sganja what we need is education and employment for the massas not another racist bastard to destroy our country, the only difference here his he's black and not white. But oh yes sorry in this screwed up world only white people can be racists right? Which I will probably be labelled for my comments here but then hey whatever I'm not going to shy away from the truth.

      Piet - 2012-03-01 12:30

      Eish and you support this idiot. That does not tell us a lot about your intelligence, you must be a venda!

      E=MC2 - 2012-03-01 12:34

      Sqanja - you are just such a lost cause. IF you didnt look 60, I'd recon you could fit in very well with the YL. That’s what’s wrong with the ANC; ANC members don’t even respect a decision by their own party. No wonder this country is in such a mess... it starts at the top after all! Clueless masses led by a clueless party

      Nathi - 2012-03-01 13:08

      Ok Sganja. Lets work it out politically. For one we will lose one of our strongest allies and partners on the continent(Botswana). When Botswana falls by the wayside other countries will follow suit. Secondly does this mean that the Tri-partheid alliance and the whole country are all insane at wanting to call Juju to order?(I think not!...) Politics is not playground games and if you show all your cards too soon you will be kicked off the playground. Personally I'm not gonna lose any sleep over Juju or the youth league, cause quite frankly they have done f*$ck all for the millions of youth like me who don't have political connections. The third point is that Juju is not a bad person, he's just got f*&%#ed up timing and no respect. If he had timed his comments and come across as someone who is respectful he would still be heading the youth league.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-01 13:09

      so what will you do about it?

      makesuthink - 2012-03-01 13:18

      Sganja If you were the boss of a company and I worked for you what would you do of I told you that a decision that you had made was wrong,that you are a complete ass??le. you cannot fire me because I do not respect you nor your decisions. Tell me how do you resolve a charge politically in an organisation. The organisation will nt have political parties in it. You have made me realise that your IQ is at laest 4 numbers lower than your shoe size

      Gigo - 2012-03-01 13:38

      @Nathi firstly Botwsana was not Malema's idea but YL resolution, so to reduce this as Malema idea is wrong and I don't understand why the NDC rejected this point. If YL call's a media briefing whatever happens in that meeting it will be YL briefing not individual, however this is what happened (we saw NDC charging individuals) Secondly Well calling Malema to order was not part of the charges brought against him, however to answer your questions guilty people will always have fear in their lives when someone is challenging them,Malema is a powerful leader who fear no one, imperialist and other opposition parties feared that Malema (in fact YL under Malema)will achieved their resolutions (nationlisation and land) and as for alliance we have heard them talking like that previously but now it seems they were agreeing with him (Cosatu on policies) and other unions e.g Numsa and Samwu (numsa it was previously at loggerhead with Malema) as for SACP I better not comment because I don't see any developments in that part.

      Sean - 2012-03-01 13:41

      @Sganja- Why do you think AFRICA is one big F@CK UP ?? Because of people like you and Malema ! You think the law does not apply to Malema and his comrades ?? Explain to me the new wording Malema and his supporters found ``ECONOMIC FREEDOM`` Does it mean he fills his pockets while you fools support him ?? Seariously you guys are nothing but a bunch of militant imbeciles that give South Africa a bad name !!

      Gigo - 2012-03-01 13:43

      @makesuthink stupid decisions will cost the companies, if my boss has leadership qualities he will understand and try to listen to me without putting a gun on my head.

      makesuthink - 2012-03-01 13:51

      Sqanja Evidently you cannot read I said that YOU are the boss. So you would put a gun to your employees heads when You think that they ask stupid questions

      Gigo - 2012-03-01 14:00

      @Sean I didn't say Malema is above the law or whatsoever , but I couln't understand NDC findings on these matter. Economic freedom is for all the SA people,and by the way i'm not "bunch of militant imbeciles"

      William - 2012-03-01 14:34

      PRICK!!!!!!

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-01 15:10

      @sganja - whats to understand?? juju made some comments that were deemed stupid by the anc. His actions spoke of disrespect and militancy against the anc. so the anc debated it, found him guilty of contraviening the anc constitution and VOILA... he got expelled. Whether it was policies agreed upon by the whole ancyl or the pec or the nec (dont know which is which because they all suck), juju is, oops WAS, the face of ancyl and he should be responsible for actually standing on a public platform and spewing that rubbish out to the whole nation. What i dont understand is that it took the anc this long to expell the idiot and even now he has another chance to appeal the appeal of the final appeal???

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-01 15:16

      PS: the anc's favourite statement when they fail to deliver / govern properly like the eskom power shortages etc etc, is to deflect blame and say '... it was a collective effort.' Same applies to the yl

      J-Man - 2012-03-01 15:27

      ...says the MASTER of stupidity....

      Zubair - 2012-03-02 10:19

      look at africa around you with idiots that were in power just like MALEMA the biggest idiot of the lot and you can see the damage they do but no sganja and his possie want to still support this D**S. Get a brain maybe a 1/4 brain will open your eyes

  • David - 2012-03-01 12:05

    Wow that is a turnaround. Wonder if they worried about being discplined now as well. LOL

      Sean - 2012-03-01 13:43

      Obviously they know the tender tap will be closed now !! So fatboy is nothing worth to them !!!

  • Werner - 2012-03-01 12:06

    For once they make sense.....their is just 1 problem the ANC and ANCYL doesn`t know the meanning of the word RESPECT!

      msendi - 2012-03-01 12:18

      If ANC and ANCYL doesn`t know the meanning of the word RESPECT!, who else does?

      Nigel - 2012-03-01 13:10

      um the universe does not consist only of the ANC & the YL

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-01 15:22

      @msendi - thats pretty obvious... EVERYONE ELSE

  • William - 2012-03-01 12:09

    At the risk of sounding Malema's supporter, I think he was used and now dumped. On the other hand , he was unruly and deserves the expulsion. A Warning to the opposition parties not to co opt him ,otherwise he will cause the same mayhem.

      Werner - 2012-03-01 12:26

      @msendi.....well let me put it this way Everyone but the ANC ANCYL and their supporters! No.......you don`t agree that`s your problem.

      PB - 2012-03-01 12:27

      I'm sure Tokyo, Winnie and blubberbut Juliaaas are in the process of forming their own party at the moment.

      S - 2012-03-01 12:32

      Malema will start his own politcal party: Malema's United Political Party for the Enrichment of Tenderpreneurs - MUPPET.

      Marion - 2012-03-01 12:43

      @William... for any of the other political parties to co-opt him would just prove, once again, that there are no morals in politics, only voters.

  • Anthony - 2012-03-01 12:26

    isnt it 'nice' to see that at every oportunity Winneeeee disgraces herself and yet again and again shows that she is delusional and dangerous--I remember when Nelson was released, the international press were all in love with her and called her the 'mother of the nation'--and since then she herself single- handedly has worked her way down to the very bottom of the pile next to all the stompies--she now is the absolute example of 'persona non grata'

      Marion - 2012-03-01 12:44

      @Anthony - I reckon it's getting quite crowded down there at the very bottom and likely to get more so.

  • Piet - 2012-03-01 12:29

    I do not think ANC supporters are capable of diciplin

  • Thabo Nhlanhla Dhlamini - 2012-03-01 12:32

    if i say i am a big boy to you i mean dat to you so called juju, do you hear me,i mean do-u-hear-me, u are a small boy,u can't do anything,dats me gwede n jacob.if u don't believe try the next round i'l show u.sizokubamba amadlebe

      Robert - 2012-03-01 12:39

      That sounded like you were dissing Fat-Boy. I hope so !!! DOWN WITH MILITANT ANCYL IDIOTS, DOWN !!!

      Marion - 2012-03-01 12:45

      That's it Thabo. You pull his ears - hard.

  • E=MC2 - 2012-03-01 12:35

    Its only a matter of time before the ANC implodes on itself... cant wait!!!

  • sadikimpho - 2012-03-01 12:41

    I am sure that the leadership of anc is happy now, but i can tell you that the desision taken was very canal,and the problem is that it affects the organisation as a whole. How can the Organisation like Anc fails to see that there is a problem between Julius and Zuma and address it accordingly? rather than showing off their powers in public, yes we need the calbre like of Julius and Zuma as well. the fact is Anc poeple are fighting for power.

      Mtizozo - 2012-03-01 13:20

      zuma had no problem with malema, its malema who had disrespectful problems, you cannot be bigger than the elders, that’s impossible, fikile was vocal but listened when there is time to listen, blade used to fight with mbeki on the media but after that you see them drinking wine together. In politics you can create enemies but you must have a strategy to keep them temporal enemies and be friends with them after that . This is one thing that malema lacked. All his points are valid and are known and they have been said by the previous presidents mara they showed some respect where it’s needed. Your attitude determines your altitude. “Malema was noted saying he has no feeeeeeeeeeeeellllliiiiiiiiiiiingssssssssss about cabrade zuma”. Just imagine another head of states hears that, what impression about the youth of this country. You could see that even if there is no feeling but there was other best ways he could have answered that, this is the president of the country, who is respected in Africa and the world. My last points, ancyl presidents are regarded as apprentices that are allowed to make mistakes and just get brushed as their still on their carrier path. First you are suspended and appeal, then you are now expelled aanndddd you still want to appeal?? What will be the next one now?

  • Michele - 2012-03-01 12:42

    The significance in the article is that Winnie basically runs the womans league, the womens league have now come out and told the ycl to respect the decision. Winnie has been JUJU's main benefactor, so she has now also dropped him like a hot potato. Leeuwkop prisojn awaits Juju and his cronies once the criminal charges are laid for corruption and graft.

  • Jeffrey - 2012-03-01 12:58

    and refrain from damaging the emage of the Ruling party further, Who damaged it first, is it malema. Big boy everyone is deserted you, you are alone, not mathale or Phosa saying something. you aare fading like smoke. the huge fire start from a little flame to ashes the smoking fading.

      MSGRule - 2012-03-01 13:06

      The unrooloing party is doign a great job by themselves to damage their image. Fat boy was just loud mouth that wants to control somethign but is way out his league. The unruly party should also be expelled.

      Sean - 2012-03-01 13:45

      I actually wonder how much ``investment damage`` fatboy caused ??

  • Nigel - 2012-03-01 13:15

    dear SARS, as taxpayers & concerned citizens we demand that you investigate Mr Malema, it is unfair to the poor people of SA that he gets away with stealing money (tenders) that is meant to help provide infrastructure, like schools, roads, libraries. If you don't they just might take matters in their own hands & deal with him kangaroo court stye, this we want to avoid (not)

      makesuthink - 2012-03-01 15:17

      Nigel SARS have already started to investigate Madbucket and everybody associated with him regarding payments to him

  • mmdutywa - 2012-03-01 13:19

    We need to refrain from calling people or processes stupid if we are really smart. We need to also shy away from discussing personalities and tackle the issues at hand. most importantly we need to familiarize ourselves with the facts before we start going haywire.If the organization like the ANC deems it fit to expel its members after following its processes, who are we with little information to call that stupid.

  • David - 2012-03-01 13:37

    Good riddens to Malema. He only wanted to destroy a beautiful nation.

  • john.ncala - 2012-03-01 13:57

    JUJU is gone so please let's stop all this nonsese and build our Mzansi and become one like we saw the beautiful Rainbow nation displayed last night in Durban during the Bafana Bafana match Big up to all the South Africans who were there all the colours of the RAINBOW if we can do it in sport we can also do it in stopping the farm murders and crime come on MZANSI we can do this

  • tacod - 2012-03-01 14:08

    New party for Malema to start AFA - Africa for Africans

  • Werner - 2012-03-01 14:25

    Worst part is not just the ANCYL but also the ANC what did they so since 1994 for all who voted for them, yes you have a better chance to get employed.....and how many is still unemployed bacause their isn`t work. The only people who benefits is the big shots and who workes for the state(ANC)The poor only gets poorer. We need a party in control of this country and if i think of it not 1 party will do the following: Look after your own people SA Citizens must be first in line for employment. When applying for work you do not need to answer a question on a form with race,when going for a interview they see the person in front of them not the colour first and then the person. Bring back the death penalty for murder and rape to name a few so that the tax payer can stop paying (maintenence). The first party that can promise me the above and DELIVER i will vote for!

  • Joel - 2012-03-01 15:04

    The ANC Women's League's response to the Julius Malema matter is downright pathetic. The grovelling and fawning of Jacob Zuma by some in the ANC Women's League is uncomradely. Guys you cannot all be Jacob Zuma's wives and no one should be entertaining such hopes now. It is already a full house with the younger ones always fighting.

  • Kai - 2012-03-01 15:06

    Meanwhile the ANC Pets League spokesanimal Cathy Corgi said that they will not be drawn in to a cat fight over the matter. However the ANC Cattle League spokesanimal Shapa Sheep was bullish on his [Malema] chances of appeal.

  • Thuli - 2012-03-01 16:03

    Can someone fill me in, I've been watching cricket - who is Julius Malema?

  • Molly - 2012-03-01 21:58

    Malema has been voted off the Island at last

  • hendric.pogiso - 2012-03-02 16:24

    Malema will always be my president regardless of whether he has been susspended he ws taking on behalf of youth not for himself

      Krish - 2012-03-13 21:32

      This is a new tune I hear. Who can dictate to Malema. Everything he said was his own. He rules the ANCYL full stop. There is no way that the ANCYL will dictate to Malema what to say. He is boss. Nobody tells Malema what to say. If it is so then The ANCYL should be banned. The ANC wont swallow this.

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