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Malema statements disingenuous - Mantashe

2012-04-03 17:03

Johannesburg - ANC Youth League president Julius Malema's statements at the weekend were disingenuous, ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said on Tuesday.

"The assertion made by Julius Malema that new ideas were suppressed is not only disingenuous, but also a deliberate falsehood," Mantashe told reporters in Johannesburg.

He said it was unfortunate that the youth league had chosen the ANC's centenary year to call the party undemocratic and to try sow division within the organisation.

On Friday, Malema criticised President Jacob Zuma's leadership during a centenary lecture in Johannesburg. He said Zuma had replaced democracy with dictatorship and that the ANCYL was being traumatised and suppressed under Zuma's leadership.

Mantashe said these statements would be investigated. He was reading from a statement on behalf of the ANC's top six officials.

Mantashe was joined by Zuma, his deputy Kgalema Motlanthe, Treasurer Mathews Phosa, national chairperson Baleka Mbete and deputy secretary general Thandi Modise.

Comments
  • CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-03 17:08

    JUST EXPEL THE BERET-WEARING FAT BOY NOW !!! PLEASE !!! STOP ALL THIS USELESS TALKING AND GET RID OF TROUBLEMAKERS FROM SOUTH AFRICA POLITICS !!!

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-03 17:09

      He and his cronies are not soldiers just because they wear toilet-seat covers on their heads. They're morons looking for trouble. Little kids who need a good smack!!!

      Sheda - 2012-04-03 17:26

      Why get rid of Julius alone. Anything or anyone related to the ANC should go. There is no genius left in the ANC. All the good ones have died (or retired)

      Lessy - 2012-04-03 18:14

      Charles Could not agree with you more; however, Jakopregop is fighting for his political life and won't do it. Whoever may succeed the oversexed Pres, won't do it either. What a mess, what a mess! Viva ANC, viva INCOMPETENCE and CORRUPTION, viva!

      Sean - 2012-04-03 18:34

      Just fire that fat imbecile !!!

      Rudi - 2012-04-03 20:06

      NOOOOOO!!!!! Leave them to rot in their own excrement! They deserve to have nothing less! They are their own worst enemy and we will sit and watch them go down from the ring side seats!

      Thabang - 2012-04-03 21:57

      malema is history

  • Gavin - 2012-04-03 17:09

    What a pile of crap.

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-03 17:10

      You talking about the ANCYL? Sure sounds like it ...

  • Shirley - 2012-04-03 17:12

    Um-are news24 going to publish this press conference sentence by sentence? Must be quiet at the news desk!

  • EricksonTL - 2012-04-03 17:12

    Get rid of the youth league. Simple as that. If they're not around any more, they can't make trouble. If everyone is subject to the regulations of the ANC, then there won't be all this legal high jump when they step out of line. Simple.

      prince.mashao - 2012-04-03 17:18

      Chief if your child is unruly do you them away?

      Crracker - 2012-04-03 18:04

      If only it can sink in that they are NOT children or youth. They are grown-ups and the ANC is not a mother hen to chickens. If you are still a chicken you should stay out of politics.

      Sean - 2012-04-03 18:36

      @prince.mashao - FFS , does Malema look like child ? Goes to show , some people just don`t have any brain cells !!

      tobydt - 2012-04-03 18:48

      Big difference between a child and the ANCYL.

      Bluemast - 2012-04-03 19:41

      @prince - Did you pass grade 0 ??? Turn to page "2" in your Noddy book, paragraph one..... continue while the adults continue using this forum please!

      EricksonTL - 2012-04-04 01:35

      I didn't say line them up in front of a firing squad, or kick them out of the party! The problem comes in that all these ANC 'structures' seem to make their own rules, and the 'parent' here has no control. Absorb the YL into the party itself, take away it's autonomy, and make them all subject to the same regulations. That way, when they step out of line, everyone knows what to expect in terms of discipline. Actually, shouldn't that already be the case? Should the youth league not ultimately be subject to the policies and legislation within the party? Think about it - take schools for instance. Each school is an autonomous entity to a point - they can make their own code of conduct etc. However, they are all still subject to the regulations of the Education Department, and their code of conduct doesn't overrule the code of conduct of the department. The mind boggles that this is not the way the ANC works!

  • roan.murray - 2012-04-03 17:14

    Whatever. They gave him a soapbox when it suited them. They did not discipline him when he needed to be disciplined and they gave him too much rope. Now they have to sort him out and they are taking too long to do that as well. During this process they liked all the support he got from the hungry youth of this country, and these same people are now turning against the ANC leadership. It will be quite interesting how this thing is going to work out over the next 18 months, I think it gets more likely every day that a real Labour Party will rise from this.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-04-03 17:26

      Roan - i tend to agree with you. Malema was let go and had illusions of grandeur. He thought he could get away with anything, do anything, say anything. now they have a problem getting rid of him. In the meantime Vavi is obviously getting fed up with the ANC - he is starting to speak out on issues such as the toll fees, labour brokers, maladministration, service delivery, the info bill... some issues the tri-partite alliance were expected to be united on. I think Vavi is also fed up over corruption - i think he believes the ANC has lost their moral fibre... i would not be surprised to see a real labour party develop.

      Crracker - 2012-04-03 18:12

      They all played Julius Malema and the rest of the Gang of 5 heading the ANCYL. The latter were too dumb or emotionally immature to notice how they were being made fools of. Even up to the last moment. Now they find they are all on their own. Ah well, maybe there is a second opportunity to cultivate real loyal friends in the orange surroundings. We now await the legal processes to take their natural course.

      Gerhard - 2012-04-03 18:14

      All this just proves that JZ has never to this day been able to pick people with integrity. The list is endless. Zuma, a man in the wrong job.

  • Patrick - 2012-04-03 17:14

    Just wondering if Malema manages get Zuma out of power what will happen to his expulsion?how is this going to help him?

      EricksonTL - 2012-04-03 17:16

      The same thing that happened to Zuma's corruption charges. POOF! They disappear like magic!

  • Kolobe - 2012-04-03 17:16

    disengenious and true. why would anybody fight to keep zuma at the helm?he is a disgrace

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-03 17:24

      Almost as big a disgrace as the dysfunctional ANCYL

      tobydt - 2012-04-03 17:30

      Kolobe - Didnt you vote for Jacob? He is disgrace.

      Irene - 2012-04-03 17:30

      Zooomer is a disgrace, but then so are all the others. There is not an honest one amongst them, and that includes the supporters. Pure filth.

      Irene - 2012-04-03 17:41

      Sinudeity ~ A few years ago Kolobe was killing for Zooomer. LOL!

  • Kabelo - 2012-04-03 17:17

    ANC din't see it as disrespetful wen it was directed to pre MBeki. why today?to mantashe if Zuma lose is the end of u in SA polotics(ANC)

  • Vusi - 2012-04-03 17:18

    This is sure the way to celebrate your centenary! Fight Fight Fight! They could have gotten rid of him a long time ago, but our leaders are enjoying this circus. It takes the focus off corruption and while we all rage about Malema, they steal!!!!

  • luckyselome - 2012-04-03 17:18

    Questions 1. Who really brought up this chargers against ANCYL leadership? 2. Who suppose to charge who? 3. All this things are allegations cause non of them have been ''done'' 4. Who is ANC? Its leadership or its members 5. After Malema suspended by the same NDC, he was again expelled by the same NDC with no new charges? 6. Is ANC Constitution clear about this things.

      roan.murray - 2012-04-03 17:23

      These things should be sorted out internally, Malema is using the media to fight his case and this was his own mistake. If he had problems in terms of policy and problems with the leadership he should have used his INTERNAL position to lobby and convince, what he did and what he is busy doing will only have one result, and that will not be winning.

      Sally - 2012-04-04 05:33

      Ppl why don't you concentrate on ur work and stop talking about malema. Every day is malema malema.. Why don't u reappoint him cause it seems ur still thinking about him. There is a lot of corrupt officials, no service delivery but ur busy with malema. Do ur job, there are people dealing malema's case.

  • Mark - 2012-04-03 17:21

    Mantashe, do you really have to use bombastic terms to talk to the people of SA. This will be shown on the news and half of the country does not know "disingenuous". Untruthful would have done the trick. I hate it when politicians use big words to hide the truth. They are liars!!!

  • tobydt - 2012-04-03 17:21

    Been saying for the longest time, the ANC isnt going to make it far past their centenary.

  • Irene - 2012-04-03 17:29

    Malema is a piece of filth, just like the rest of the 'party' he belongs to.

  • Patty - 2012-04-03 17:29

    Does the ANC need a Youth League?

      Sean - 2012-04-03 18:38

      Obviously not , they all a bunch lazy thieves !!

  • esethu3 - 2012-04-03 17:29

    The most harshest statement against the ANC come from WHITES; it surprises me really. its ironic....

      tobydt - 2012-04-03 17:33

      If only you were politically mature, you would be making harsh statements about the ANC as well :P

      prince.mashao - 2012-04-03 17:59

      Comrades why should almost evrythng in this blog have 2 arouse racial discussions..comrade Esethu ANC is served by both black and white,inclusive are indian and coloured, voted for by the same racial denominations, so if one is politicaly robust towards ANC,i would like to beleive they are doing so because it concerns them as SA citizen and under no racial motive

      prince.mashao - 2012-04-03 17:59

      Comrades why should almost evrythng in this blog have 2 arouse racial discussions..comrade Esethu ANC is served by both black and white,inclusive are indian and coloured, voted for by the same racial denominations, so if one is politicaly robust towards ANC,i would like to beleive they are doing so because it concerns them as SA citizen and under no racial motive

      Crracker - 2012-04-03 18:18

      Who cares? Those days are long gone that only blacks may legitimately criticize the ANC. But we are used to the old tactic by now of dragging race into embarrassing situations. Doesn't work anymore.

  • Tony - 2012-04-03 17:35

    The fact that, for months now, the ANC leadership has to get together for a meeting to respond every time a nitwit like Malema makes a statement and the incapability to deal with the matter effectively and conclusively is a clear indication of the lack of authority that their leadership has. This inability is at the bottom of their failure to take the country forward.

  • Peter - 2012-04-03 17:35

    Shawara .... Shalwara u've cause this to itself. Shut up & enjoy the humiliation. It was lovey duvey when this baby was insulting Mbeki

  • Irene - 2012-04-03 17:43

    Pass the popcorn, the circus is in town!

      Shirley - 2012-04-03 18:09

      Irene: Wish there were a few "Endangerd species" on the line up.

  • thulani.sparks - 2012-04-03 17:43

    Is it???Did Kgalema and Phosa sign off on this statement too???..."Disingenuous" wot a big fat word...to describe a big fat person like Malema...I pause

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-04-03 17:49

      ye as the fight progresses the words become bigger and fatter but there is still buggerall constructive ACTION...its almost as if both parties enjoy showcasing their big fat actionless parade of their incompetence to achieve anything

      thulani.sparks - 2012-04-03 17:56

      Louis couldn't agree with u man!!!...it is a competition of who can hurl the most damning hogwash onto the other and we South Africans jst look on stunned but not shocked or amazed!!!

  • Chriskoi1 - 2012-04-03 17:48

    We dont want a Mugabe here in South Africa please do what The ANC must do and that is to take him out of his so called rights because he is going to destroy the all the work the ANC did build up I'm a DA seporter and I think he bad news to the ANC .What will the wold think of our President if this poppey's do what they want.Let me tell the ANC that they must stop him before it's to late.

  • Bandile - 2012-04-03 17:59

    What a bunch of limpwrists. They said basically nothing. How about the split in the "so called" top six. Both Motlanthe and Phosa shared stages with Fatass and gave their silent and not so silent blessings. Spot the tribalism. If it goes along those lines Modise will probably side with them and Mantashe with Zuma and Mbete. But then a Xhosa must side with a Zulu.... Bloody dysfunctional African politics. Bloody dysfunctional Africa. Bloody dysfunctional ANC. Making SA just another dysfunctional failed African state.

      thulani.sparks - 2012-04-03 18:14

      How did tribalism knock on into this story all of a sudden???wot u say above is utter nonsense no commentator, analyst,ordinary person has made the assertion u hv made here wen it comes to this issue...u r a small person if u r able to spend time connecting world-apart dots...it could b that u jst special...or both...

      Bandile - 2012-04-03 18:26

      Been there to see for anybody with half a brain. Ignoring it won't make it disappear.

      Gerhard - 2012-04-03 18:29

      Zuma replaced all new appointments with Zulus.

      Mark - 2012-04-03 18:31

      Eish Bandile, we are dealing with groot issues here. Your kop can't take it heh? hence you go down the tribe road. Let me help you: SHUT UP AND LOG OFF

  • Dave - 2012-04-03 18:10

    I don't agree with any of you guys, let Malema carry on with his rantings and critisms and split the ANC apart, make way for a decent party to run this country, it's worked so far, let it carry on, maybe, or hopefully he does spill the beans on Zuma, LOL

      Vusi - 2012-04-03 18:35

      Very true Dave. Some huge wisdom in your statement.

      Walter Lamza Mogano - 2012-04-03 19:46

      Malema pls carry on its abt time we see what the new SA has in store for us under the Leadership of DA

      Walter Lamza Mogano - 2012-04-03 20:22

      Malema pls carry on its abt time we see what the new SA has in store for us under the Leadership of DA

  • Werner - 2012-04-03 18:20

    Yawn

  • Crracker - 2012-04-03 18:22

    How can a 30 yo plus like Julius Malema still be regarded as a youth? Just how many years of guardianship is required for the ANC to drill some sense into his head? He us almost at the middle age stage of human age but he - and the other slow learners on the ANCYL leadership - is still seen as a youth? Why do they require such an inordinately long period of adolescence? Something not right.

  • Aaron - 2012-04-03 18:34

    So they call a huge press conference, wasting the salaries of several high profile politicians which we pay for, not to mention the time of dozens of journalists, and the only think that this chop really has to say is that Malema's "disingenious". WTF?

  • IcemanGP - 2012-04-03 18:41

    So if they were disingenuous, what the hell do you call it then. Cause it sounded pretty straight forward to me, as to how he feels about the leadership, and he ain't a child any more.

  • Scouter - 2012-04-03 18:42

    Well, if the ANC leadership ever wanted to place young Julius in the limelight they certainly went about it the right way with this Press Conference! All they have succesfully done is warrant him more attention than he deserves. The fools. They look and sound like they are running scared - and are resorting through this mindless exercise, to trying to convince the masses that they are still in control. Fat chance by the look of what has happened today.

  • Jayson - 2012-04-03 18:54

    This is what Malema wants. He feeds off all the media attention. Any outrageous, foolish or bazaar statement he makes, becomes headline news. If we all ignore him. Mabey he will just go away.

  • Aubrey - 2012-04-03 19:02

    Heat them hard Malema, what u must do, at the moment just forget about those Grandfathers called MK veterens, there are finished,Zuma and his Comrade they create u, not MKVeterans Grandfathers tthey must just shutup or go back to the BUSH where the belong, heat them till the so called Lithuli House colapse.

      Mofamadi - 2012-04-04 09:05

      Its lyk u've jst woken-up, all malema needs to do is go to de mountains maybe he'll cum back as a man not dis nonsense things he says,he jst wants 2 waste our tax money dis useless foolish guy

  • Jayson - 2012-04-03 19:18

    This is exactly what Malema wants. All this media attention. If he utters a idiotic, totally irrational and bazaar comment. He makes headline news. Mabey. If we just ignore him he will just go away.

  • Tony - 2012-04-03 19:24

    What does Madiba, Nelson Mandela, think about all this infighting? His silence is deafening. The ANC of today is not what he had in mind, what he fought for and God knows, I'm no ANC supporter.

      Tony - 2012-04-03 19:26

      I think he's crying silent tears of disappointment.

  • makhari.mulaifa - 2012-04-03 19:36

    If people are not allowed to raise their views by the leaders of an organisation it shows that the leaders don't want to accept challenges and change if you get expelled for saying what u belive in and leaders don't want to engage members of the public in what have been raised it show dictatership or ignorent of the majority, we can't have a country were only a few enjoy the wealth of this country,the freedom charter says that the people shall share in the countries wealthm

  • Cedric Papa-Junior Kgatla - 2012-04-03 21:00

    I wonder when are they gonna assasinate this guy! He really is a disgrace.....

  • Smell - 2012-04-04 01:07

    The ANC could do with a Youth League with young, educated leadership in the class of Mandela, Tambo, Sisulu and Mbeki. Why is the current generation of smart, African law graduates in this country not stepping up to the plate? Why does the current set-up allow loudmouthed, uneducated morons to set the agenda?

  • EmperorNemisis - 2012-04-04 08:47

    I guess that this is the "Thank You" that you get for screaming "We will kill for Zuma". Just goes to show, the ANC is now officially called the Amazing Nitwitt Circus! Why do they keep on employing village idiots? The one ofter the other, each thinking that he/she is the "cleverest" person ever to grace African soil? When will they realise that they are their own downfall and that worldwide, people are laughing their arses off at them!

  • Mofamadi - 2012-04-04 09:12

    Is malema dat powerfull,why is ANC leaders making him look like he is de president,de only thing hes managed to do is cause problems within the party,why cant they jst let him go ,the are many people here in south africa who can do better than him,is he dat special,dis is not what our family members died 4,

  • mojalefa.shuping - 2012-04-05 15:03

    some ANC leaders are using party's diry tactics to stifle young people's ideas, white man will always tell us what to do even when we have politial liberation, we cant be soft when we talk economic emancipation you systematically managed to get rid of comrade julias malema but believe we have another juju coming watch the space down with supremacy

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