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Malema suspension not yet in effect - ANC

2012-02-06 14:21

Johannesburg - The suspension of ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema will only come into effect once the mitigation process of his sentence is complete, the ANC confirmed on Monday.

"There should be no confusion. We have decided to delay everything from kicking in until the processes are completed," ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe told reporters in Johannesburg.

"If we wanted to be legalistic, the 2010 suspension would have taken effect, but we will wait two weeks for the mitigation. Delaying the kicking in is part of certain political considerations and not legal considerations."

NEC meeting

Mantashe was speaking after the party held its first national executive committee (NEC) meeting for the year.

He declined to comment on the process the ANCYL would follow in finding a new leader once the mitigation had been completed.

"The ANC Youth League are in a better position to clarify that. The ANC Youth League are an organisation with a constitution. They are autonomous, but integral to the ANC, but this decision is for the ANC Youth League to make."

The ANC's disciplinary committee of appeals on Saturday announced that the attempts by Malema, his spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, and four other ANCYL officials to have their suspensions overturned were dismissed.

They were found guilty in November last year of bringing the ANC into disrepute and of sowing division in the party.

Malema currently has a 14-day reprieve to argue for a lesser sentence.


Comments
  • AyGeewils - 2012-02-06 14:24

    Haven't we heard this before somewhere??!

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-06 14:35

      Something crazy could just be coming out of the woodwork - no pun intended ...

      Tammy - 2012-02-06 14:35

      I can't remember Aygee - I suffer from amnesia just like Cele and the rest of the clan

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-06 14:57

      Let's face it: the ANC would really like to get rid of him but keep his media coverage - pity you cant have the audience without the clown ..

      Maggyone - 2012-02-06 15:17

      dont you people have any work to do?i have a feeling many of you are getting paid for doing nothing,while somone else is doing the job for you.or perhaps news24 has signed a contract with you to have a debate about juju.aghhhhh voetsek man! mind your business

      Juan - 2012-02-06 15:26

      @maggyone what about you, no work to do?

      FlowingRivers - 2012-02-06 15:26

      They will neva keep a good thing down.....!

      Irene - 2012-02-06 15:28

      Flowing River ~ Good, that means we've seen the end of Fatboy because there sure is nothing good about him. Maggyone ~ Dry up and go back to lying on your back.

      thitos - 2012-02-06 15:36

      No...The ANC is just tired of this boy. They want to make sure that they've exhausted all the processes. They don't want this boy to come back and sue them for failing to follow procedure. Rather wait 14 days for the mitigation, than deal with it for the next 5 years.

      Typersa - 2012-02-06 16:49

      @Maggyone - U sure u a female, kinda look like a ladyboy to me?? Back on topic... Go quickly, the iron is still on. Ur boss is going to moer u!!

      Tony - 2012-02-06 18:43

      @Maggyone - have you finished the ironing yet - NO - then get off the PC.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-02-06 19:58

      Maggy may be agitating, but using derogatory, personal insults back at her simply reinforces the old stereotype of white south africans being racist. Call her on her bs not on her colour.

      Patrick - 2012-02-07 09:38

      No wonder we get f***all done in this country. Yawn!

      Jacqui - 2012-02-07 10:49

      Ag Maggygone don't you know children shouldn't be playing with computers?. Tea time I suppose.

  • Stan - 2012-02-06 14:26

    I have all the time in the world to wait until it's in effect.

      Jomah - 2012-02-06 15:13

      Agreed. Do it by the book, and have no come backs.

  • nikondaniel - 2012-02-06 14:28

    The tribe has spoken.

      Anthony - 2012-02-06 14:30

      lol

      E=MC2 - 2012-02-06 16:19

      hahahaha nice! :)

  • paul.coetzee1 - 2012-02-06 14:30

    Malema is just like a bad rash. It just won't go away

      ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-02-06 15:11

      Yes, like a case of crabs for the ANC

  • jaz82 - 2012-02-06 14:31

    not even a rash, like a plague in Moses time.

  • Tammy - 2012-02-06 14:33

    Surprise, surprise! What a joke!

  • Brett - 2012-02-06 14:34

    I wonder how old Juju will be when all of this is over? Does the ANC recognise 40 year olds as youths?

      Newsmonger - 2012-02-06 14:42

      I believe they do,they share one thing in common between them that is their mentality. You can be 40 but if you are a childlike (esp. thinking like one and behaving like one) thinking adult you would joing the Ancyl. As a farm has place for cattle the idiots gathering is called the Ancyl. The adolescent gimmme gimme, gravvvy gravvvy people.

      Joubs1957 - 2012-02-06 16:19

      Have you seen the age of some high school scholars these days???

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2012-02-06 14:36

    A tv soapie. The same crap drags on for months . Some will probably die soon then come back next week.

  • Johan - 2012-02-06 14:39

    It is like in some of those bad horror movies, where the monster just doesn't seem to ever die, no matter how many times it gets killed.

  • Celtis - 2012-02-06 14:42

    Send him on a crash course to become a test pilot for the president.

  • Vic - 2012-02-06 14:46

    How much longer is this farce going to continue? Should have been booted out a long time ago!What's the bet; there will be another stumbling block along the way!

      don.ruffels - 2012-02-06 15:00

      This is the ploy - let’s just give him one, one, one, OOPS one, one, more chance to show all South African's that they (ANC) are not the big bad wolf. Perhaps after the 14 days they will find another loop hole to give him a skidding chance. Come on ANC why don't you admit that you all want to lick his proverbial backside and say well done you have put us on the map for our supporters again look how fair we are to Malema.

      don.ruffels - 2012-02-06 15:21

      Let me further add this: "here is a clear case of: "THE TAIL WAGS THE DOG."

  • Deon - 2012-02-06 14:46

    Don't mess with the Pres. (Zuma). They have not decided on 5 or 7, maybe he will be better in 10 years time (not likely). Sars and Hawks, it is yoour time now, send him away for good.

  • Desmond - 2012-02-06 14:47

    Norman Arendse bussiness should be boycotted

  • Thando - 2012-02-06 14:51

    Malema will not get away , he has made lots of enemies now. Don't worry we will soon see the back of him

      Dave - 2012-02-06 15:01

      Agreed, we need to remember that this keeps fatso dangling as well for another 2 weeks, I bet that brings a smile to Mantashe

      Philisiwe Msomi - 2012-02-06 15:41

      I agree Thando! Made enemies plus ANC knows dat reputation is on the line. Malema is going down, big time!

  • Fourhundredkg - 2012-02-06 14:52

    What is wrong with these ANC clowns? Can they just never ever actually make a decision and then stick with it? This is a political party Malama has been expelled from. It is not like he has been banished from the country of his birth or thrown in jail - although that might not be a bad idea!

  • barry.mcbride - 2012-02-06 14:53

    From “Malema suspension effective immediately” to “Malema suspension not yet in effect...” in less than 24 hours. Pathetic!

      Nyiks11 - 2012-02-06 17:39

      what is pathetic is people had already began celebrating , talk about jumping the gun . . . .Juju would be 44 by the time this appeal is done, 14 days will turn into 14 years

  • Andrew - 2012-02-06 14:54

    This is the Party who controls our Government in RSA and will not enforce their own disciplinary findings due to political considerations. How fascinating this is to me and I am sure to others as this just goes to show how indecisive the government is.This tendancy is prevalent when it comes to corrupt officials who are suspended and are paid salaries for months pending outcome of hearings. But they force legislation though parliament to enable cover ups to suit themselves.

  • MastersVoice - 2012-02-06 14:55

    If the ANC were serious about getting rid of those bringing the ANC into disrepute, they'd be gunning for Zuma, Winnie, Tokyo and quite a handful of other prominent members. Seems Zuma has taken complete control of the whole bunch now...

  • Terrence - 2012-02-06 15:00

    Viva Malema Viva. The people's voice can never silenced.

      Brett - 2012-02-06 15:04

      Shame.

      Tammy - 2012-02-06 15:14

      BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG YAWN

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-06 15:20

      I recall the first time I commented on N24 -some innocuous thing - and I got my first thumbs down and felt quite beaten up - now of course I realise - it's not about the content - it's about people like old Terrence here - just having fun ... :)

      Juan - 2012-02-06 15:28

      So you are betting on the losing, no sorry, DYING horse

      trix.duvenage - 2012-02-06 20:29

      Terrence.... next time you must wacth out when passing a windmill. And then you must learn to spell. Noice is not speled with a 'v'

  • John - 2012-02-06 15:05

    This is a DISCIPLINARY HEARING, not a trial.... Who ever heard of mitigation process or reprieve to argue for a lesser sentence, in a hearing. Who's short and curlies does this man have have in his hand?? Will we ever hear the end??

      Eric - 2012-02-06 15:35

      Hi John. In a Disciplinary hearing after one is found Guilty then Mitigating(ANCYL Rep) and Aggravating(ANC Rep) can be placed before the Chairman prior to Sentencing. This is where the disciplinary hearing fell short and hence the reason for it been referred back from the Appeal committee. The ANCYL has argued that they were never given the opportunity for mitigating but as Cyril said the ANC can bring aggravating circumstances. All disciplinaries work like this.

      Joubs1957 - 2012-02-06 16:24

      Not as long as those with "short and curlies" are in power i`m afraid.

  • J-Man - 2012-02-06 15:10

    "The ANC Youth League are an organisation with a constitution. They are autonomous, but integral to the ANC, but this decision is for the ANC Youth League to make." Let me rephrase that for you: "The ANC Youth League are an criminal organisation without a constitution or knowledge of what that actually means. They are blind and corrupt, and thus integral to the ANC, so this decision is for the ANC Youth League to make because we do not know what is going on."

  • Elvis - 2012-02-06 15:14

    I see lots of white people are happy but they should remember that the ANCYL is not Malema. Malema is just a member like any other ordinary member. This is an economic struggle and maybe Malema is the casualty, just like we had many other casualties during the struggle against apartheid. We will not accept economic apartheid. White South Africans are cheering on the ANC for suspending Malema because they know it will divide the party and lead to the DA gaining political ground. We should be careful as blacks because with the whites; there is not free lunch.

      Tshiamo - 2012-02-06 15:24

      I am black but it's because of your attitude of entitlement that the country is stagnating. People in the modern economy work their assesses off. The world owes you nothing. One doesn't need to be white to see that Malema is a national embarrassement!

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-06 15:24

      Shot down by his own Forces?? Whites had nothing to do with it.

      J-Man - 2012-02-06 15:25

      Give me a break. Malema is an imbecile. His own supporters finally woke up. "There is not free lunch" - exactly - remember that when next time you're 'struggling' for hand-outs.... hypocrite.

      Irene - 2012-02-06 15:31

      Tshiamo ~ WELL SAID! At last someone with a brain!

      Travis - 2012-02-06 15:31

      Why should whites support an "organisation" that supports racist "leaders"???

      Gerhard - 2012-02-06 15:32

      FFS, I am tired of hearing this "economic struggle" cr@p! What is an "economic struggle"? Just because we are white does not mean we have a farm that we stole from your ancestors and not all of us are rich or have a trust fund from Raymond Ackerman or Harry Oppenheimer. At least you have figured out one thing, there is no such thing as a free lunch, we all have to work and pay for it. But that's the problem you want everything for free!! Who is going to pay for it? If you have a job, spread some of your hard earned cash around.

      Derek - 2012-02-06 15:36

      Most whites work hard and pay taxes, directly and via company taxes, which should be used to provide a "better life for all" but is plundered by thieves in the anc like Malema. Look around you and see how many whites run and support ngo's that help black South Africans. We just want a better country but if we all left and our jobs and assetts were shared by "blacks" do you really think it will make a difference, 4mill goes into 48 mill 12 times for goodness sake and i could noways come close to supporting 12 people!

      Shanelle - 2012-02-06 15:37

      @Tshiamo, couldn't have said it better myself!!

      MastersVoice - 2012-02-06 15:43

      Modikela - may I remind you that the disgraced current leader of the ANCYL was deemed a disgrace to the ANC by the ANC. Your statement that "lots of white people are happy" is misleading - I promise you more black people than white people are happy about the outcome of the hearing. I see it differently though - I see Jacob Zuma culling his opposition within the ANC. His sudden sense of justice in the Limpopo province is testament to this fact. Malema was merely an unwitting pawn expertly manipulated by Zuma, and now equally smartly removed by him. If you are a supporter of Malema, then you are essentially a victim of Zuma's sly scheming. Ask yourself, who do you support now? The ANC, or Malema? It cannot be both at the moment; so you've been out, same as Malema!

      Phumi - 2012-02-06 15:56

      Amandla cdre! Those who are working with the enemy will be exposed for who they are and will feel the full wrath of the young lions come Mangaung! Generational mix in leadership is long overdue and we have anticipated this resistance from those who have been shining at our expense the so called "left". The battle for the soul of the ANC is far from over and the time to be lead by those with huge political debts to reactionary forces must come to an end! Our gloves are off and now we are going pound for pound in the streets! Roar young lions roar! No amount of bull slaughtering is going to assist the spirits of those who are enemies of the marginalised and working class!

      Thandi - 2012-02-06 16:14

      When is someone in the ANCYL going to wake up and realise that 'economic freedom' means having a job and working for a living, not taking free handouts, or stealing via the tender process like fatboy. Midik....itis not just the whites that are happy, but most blacks with the ability to think are welcoming the demise of fatboy. Get off your racial platform and look for the light at the end of the tunnel.

      Thandi - 2012-02-06 16:16

      Phumi - as usual your drivel exposes you as a racist of the worst kind, and a moron to boot. Get a life.

      Gerhard - 2012-02-06 16:25

      Thandi, by the time Mangaung rolls round, those young lions Phumi talks about are going to be very hungry and very weak. I don't see them as much of a threat. They probably won't even have bus fare to get them there. Maybe they should just send threatening letters, that will do the trick!

      Joubs1957 - 2012-02-06 16:26

      Yeah sure... the struggle, the struggle, the struggle..... shame... poor strugglers!!!

      J-Man - 2012-02-06 16:27

      @ Phumi - "Those who are working with the enemy will be exposed for who they are..." - you mean like Malema?

      Jacqui - 2012-02-07 11:00

      ModikelaNkoana I never met you during the struggle. Are you sure we are talking about the same thing?. Talking about free lunches, how many are you enjoying now?.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-07 11:05

      Phumi. I quickly went to look outside for the 'pounding masses' the street is quiet. Just the odd beggar or two. You have a lot of work to do bro'. Grow up.

  • Miguel - 2012-02-06 15:18

    maybe the anc are looking for a loophole to have him reinstated

  • Miguel - 2012-02-06 15:19

    i think the ANC are looking for a loophole to have him reinstated

  • Tshiamo - 2012-02-06 15:21

    "Bloody agent! security take this wooden thing out of here!"

  • Aaron Nkosi - 2012-02-06 15:33

    before light, there is darkness - so is the inverse

  • Phumi - 2012-02-06 15:44

    Hands off our president! If they fire Malema they must fire all of us because he speaks for us! One thing we know for sure is that come Mangaung this year our axe will be more sharper than the one we used in Polokwane for some people. We will never be drum majorettes or be reduced to a youth desk by those who want to tame the ANCYL for their own selfish agendas! This short victory by the enemy will be short lived and the economic freedom fighters will emerge with much more vigaure! We have said it before that our gloves are off and we will takle the enemy head on! Forward ever and backward never in our quest for economic emancipation and land expropriation without compensation in our life time! Amandla!!

      Gerhard - 2012-02-06 15:54

      Well said Phumi!!! I think he does need to fire all of you. And there is that stupid "economic freedom fighters" phrase again! Does economic freedom fighters mean a bunch of petty thieves out there to steal anything and everything from those who have anything to steal? And feel free to take my land. It is fully bonded by Nedbank but it does have a nice garden that you can keep your three goats on. When you see white people walking or driving around town, do you honestly think all of them go back to their farms at night? Just because we are white does not mean we stole a farm from your ancestors, who originally stole it from the Khoisan. Grow up and get a job and earn your own money and stop walking around with your begging bowl the whole day.

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-06 16:03

      Who is the enemy? The ANC?

      Sam - 2012-02-06 16:15

      @Phumi one of the main reasons is to stop him from going to mangaung in the 1st place. I don't see him winning this one. 2nd term for the shower man, he is smart abd eliminates competition

      Joubs1957 - 2012-02-06 16:29

      You people have never been able to grasp the term :"economy" To share in it you have to add value - not demand and be given free meals all the time like you want Phumi!

  • Eric - 2012-02-06 15:45

    In every disciplinary procedure, once a person is found Guilty, the Chairman should have asked for aggravating and Mitigating circumstances prior to sentencing, to be presented. So, The Appeal committee found that the disciplinary committee findings of guilty was correct. What was a shortcoming was the aggravating and the mitigating. So the Disciplinary committee will now listen and then decide whether the penalty was to harsh and if so impose a lesser sentence. If the accused is still not happy then they can take this matter to the national executive. Those are the procedures within constitutions and disciplinary procedures which govern all of us. The constitution of our country is clear on our rights to fair practices.

  • Peter - 2012-02-06 15:47

    Ever heard of a wood-worm. Ha ha, I enjoyed that. Just imagine a big fat worm with a Juliarse Mal-enema face on it. Chomp, chomp.

  • Thandi - 2012-02-06 16:06

    Same story, different tune. After the mitigation process, the ANCorruption will take a few weeks to ponder what to do, then fatboy will be given another few weeks to react to whatever they come up with, after which another period will be granted before yet another opportunity is offered to fatboy to come up with more excuses - and so the process will carry on ad-infinitum until somebody eventually decides they have exhausted all avenues, and just tells fatboy to carry on as before, but move to another province because Limpopo is broke(n).

      Tony - 2012-02-06 19:01

      I think playing politics is a bit like cards. Except in politics, the pack has 3 jokers, 5 aces, and the game rules change by the hand that is dealt.... I dont fully inderstand it either..

  • Chaapo - 2012-02-06 16:12

    Yaw----n!

  • E=MC2 - 2012-02-06 16:18

    So what about the headline: "Malema suspension effective immediately"?????

      Nyiks11 - 2012-02-06 18:16

      to work out the effective date use this formula, E=(MC2 + 14 )days

  • Joubs1957 - 2012-02-06 16:22

    I wonder if someone can give us some kind of indication as to how much this comedy of note has cost the taxpayers (us) so far??? Probably a couple of million - that could have been spent building houses, creating jobs, fightng crime???? feeding hungry people etc????

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-02-06 17:35

    I told you they'll throw this sort of legalistic spanner in the works , now everyone's bubble is burst . This is far from being Finish & Klaar

  • Hermann - 2012-02-06 18:04

    YAWN

  • paulgerber969 - 2012-02-06 19:50

    Stalling Stalling no Balls

  • paulgerber969 - 2012-02-06 19:50

    Stalling Stalling no Balls

  • Tuskal - 2012-02-07 09:32

    Juju aint going no where. Sorry to all the haters. Viva Juju viva...

      Mano-Lee - 2012-02-10 12:03

      viva stupidity... viva

  • hjcoetzee - 2012-02-07 10:38

    ha ha ha ha ha ha..... All I could say!

  • Jacqui - 2012-02-07 10:46

    Julius Malema: An ANC Farce. Act Three by a number of idiots who think we are idiots too.

      Abram - 2012-02-09 09:51

      Whites like Jacqui are happy that ANCYL leader have been suspended,they don't know that the leaders of the yl will always be there despite the suspension.the programmes of the ANCYL will also continue,we will continue to be vocal.

  • Dianne - 2012-02-10 12:02

    UNFRIGGINGBELIEVABLE!

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