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Malema suspension upheld

2012-02-04 14:33

Johannesburg - Julius Malema on Saturday lost his appeal against his suspension, the ANC announced.

Other senior youth league members also appealed their sentences but all their appeals were denied.

Last month, Malema's defence team presented oral arguments to the NDCA detailing why Malema's five-year suspension from the ANC should be overturned, advocate Patrick Mtshaulana said.

Malema and other senior ANCYL leaders were suspended after being found guilty of sowing division within the ANC and of bringing the party into disrepute.

This was partly a result of comments made on bringing about regime change in Botswana.

ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, who was suspended for three years, and deputy president Ronald Lamola, treasurer-general Pule Mabe, secretary-general Sindiso Magaqa and deputy secretary-general Kenetswe Mosenogi, were also appealing their suspensions.

Part of the ANCYL's defence was to try and convince the ANC’s national disciplinary committee chairperson Cyril Ramaphosa that they had not been given a chance to argue in mitigation of their sentences.

Comments
  • AyGeewils - 2012-02-04 14:37

    Yes it has been denied but the saga goes on with mitigation hearings being granted!!

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-04 14:42

      The appeal, that is ..

      Vegi - 2012-02-04 14:51

      And the suspension may be suspended after all.

      Sinudeity - 2012-02-04 15:14

      Vegi, sure, just like this suspension was going to have the charges overthrown.

  • braamc - 2012-02-04 14:37

    Look at that gevreet! Lovely sunshine day in CT, aren't we all just having a fantastic time.

      Dave - 2012-02-04 14:42

      Brilliant braai weather here in Jozzie too!

      Jennifer - 2012-02-04 14:45

      :) a lovely day indeed

      Vegi - 2012-02-04 14:51

      You misunderstood the ruling Sir.

      Dave - 2012-02-04 14:56

      @Braam, weather still great your side?

      rbphiri - 2012-02-04 15:54

      The weather has changed since we have Vegi the moron to "rain" on our parade

  • seymore.butt - 2012-02-04 14:37

    when it favors them, ANC does have balls!

      Vegi - 2012-02-04 14:50

      You misunderstood the ruling Sir.

      Mtuza Mdletshe - 2012-02-04 15:15

      ANC have aways had balls and when they discipline they do it thorough coz they understand democracy not dictatorship!

      rbphiri - 2012-02-04 15:55

      Give Vegi a bells...a bells to the head

  • cecelia123 - 2012-02-04 14:38

    Whoop Whoop Whoop Horay

  • Dave - 2012-02-04 14:38

    Finally

      rbczovczov - 2012-02-04 15:16

      After drinking heavily last night, I was struggling to come up with an applaudable excuse to drink again tonight.

  • Mike - 2012-02-04 14:39

    Strong words to the failed appeal. South Africa's democracy has matured a little more today!

      thabangq - 2012-02-04 15:05

      Hahahahaha was waiting for that! You killing me here!!

  • Kgaogelo - 2012-02-04 14:39

    I thought Comrade Malema has given an opportunity to present his evidence in order to maintain justice and fairness.

      Sylvester Mohloli - 2012-02-04 14:43

      Yip, to the same ppl who found him guilty?? I dnt see how thats helpful...he is what we call a GONER!!!lol

      Kgaogelo - 2012-02-04 15:02

      Well we will wait and see.

      Mantsho - 2012-02-04 15:14

      Justice has been done, Again.

      Sean - 2012-02-04 18:46

      Kgaogelo - Present what ? Being arrogant and ignorant is no good !! Maybe you can`t read , but you can`t be deaf and dumb as well ??

  • Ali - 2012-02-04 14:40

    Having an ice cold drink to that..CHEERS!

      Sean - 2012-02-04 18:46

      Having many drinks to that , lol !

  • Theo - 2012-02-04 14:40

    I have the feeling that he will be like Rasputin - refusing to die. I don't think the ANC had any choice but to kill him off forever.

  • Sylvester Mohloli - 2012-02-04 14:41

    Hehehe....,

  • Francois - 2012-02-04 14:42

    malema, was kicked out, now he has to stay out, lets see if he can be kept out!!!!

  • Justin Edgecomb - 2012-02-04 14:42

    Well freaking done!!!!

  • Andre - 2012-02-04 14:42

    For once, the ANC heavyweights displayed the courage to discipline the undisciplined!

  • Lumko Ntshinka - 2012-02-04 14:43

    Mfxm we seriously cudnt care-less

  • Geronimo - 2012-02-04 14:44

    Great news! Hopefully the last we will hear of this little nobody troll.

      Geronimo - 2012-02-04 14:45

      ...unless SARS and the Hawks have anything to say, that would be more than welcome.

  • The-Azanian - 2012-02-04 14:45

    im not an alcohol consumer but today im gonna buy a champagne...happiest day ever.

      Kgotlo Rabothata - 2012-02-04 14:54

      Give that man a Bell n it look clear that juju is not standing any chance.

  • Freddie Smit - 2012-02-04 14:46

    ;))))

  • Liesl Wilmot - 2012-02-04 14:46

    Never let a wounded animal go-it becomes dangerous-finish him off!!!!!

  • Hector - 2012-02-04 14:48

    He looks like a petulant toddler ...lol Thats right take his lolly away ... BEEEG THUMBS UP

      Jabu Jespa - 2012-02-04 14:57

      He is guilty and must be fired

      Spikes - 2012-02-04 15:04

      Make that a petulant, fat toddler

      Hector - 2012-02-04 15:44

      Spikes.. he is also going to need a Knee op soon .. to much JW Blue and good live

  • DikgosiThokoane - 2012-02-04 14:48

    Zuma prevails, for now and hopefully not for long.......... One would hope that this teaches Juju & silly company that politics are not child's play...... Their selfish n childish attitude is what got them into this mess in the first place......... They must take this time to grow up and man up.........

  • Alva - 2012-02-04 14:49

    Ha ha ha ha ha! First good decision by the ANC. Truly a 'Bells' moment.

  • Barefoot - 2012-02-04 14:51

    Absurd! Poor cows now they'll die of boredom listening to nationalization speeches, at least he knows how to tenderise the meat

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-04 17:52

      @Barefoot ROTFLMAO..good pun. I enjoyed that!

  • cornelius.ncube2 - 2012-02-04 14:51

    well done Cyril and the team.These boys thought they are the mother body and forgot that they are a simply youth league.You deserve it Julius abuti you really embarrased our party.go and farm.

  • Xolani Khumalo - 2012-02-04 14:52

    misleading headline. Suspension not upheld, only the guilty verdict is upheld. Otherwise, happy with how the ndca approached the issue and the decisions reached

  • Rupert Eghardt - 2012-02-04 14:53

    Thank You ANC!! Best decision ever :-)

  • clivegoss - 2012-02-04 14:54

    Done and dusted. Bye bye

  • Bruce - 2012-02-04 14:54

    Remember how Mbeki fired Deputy President Jacob Zuma? What happened next? Watch this space. The little d@@s will come back fighting harder than ever.

      Makhosazane Kubheka - 2012-02-04 15:07

      Malema a very small fish 2 fry compared 2 Zuma so nothing hectic going 2 happen da. He miscalculated his influence.

      Marcelo - 2012-02-04 15:16

      I'm afraid you might be right. However if the Socialist Party had suspended Adolf Hitler during the late 20's and early 30's in Germany for talking crap and bringing the party into disrepute the same way the ANC did today with Malema, I reckon World War Two wouldn't have happened. And I wish to think that the ANC walked down the memory lane and took heed of what had happened in Germany back then. A young Hitler was a big problem child. Malema is another big problem child that the ANC and South Africa have no other option but to keep a tight rein on Malema for good.

  • pabrams - 2012-02-04 14:55

    sloppy article. guilty verdicts, except for 1, have been upheld. sanctions, the suspensions, sent back to to disciplinary committee for evidence in aggravation and mitigation can be heard before a sanction is decided.

  • acsteyn - 2012-02-04 14:55

    Ag Shame man. Poor Juju. What now? News will be boring. Juju will have to go home or God forbid find a job. Perhaps he can join Cope. They always looking for members. But then, he and Helen always hit it off. Oh then perhaps he can be the tea-boy. Jislaik all this affrmative thoughts can make him famous at last. Perhaps in 5 years we can loose his paunch as well?There we go, Nationalize all tea-boys?

  • Nigel - 2012-02-04 14:57

    can only be good news, even if its not completely over, Cyril is hot on his heels, he has gone running back to Winnie, the real mastermind (if you can call her that) behind the plan to overthrow the ANC.

  • laurenelegrange - 2012-02-04 14:57

    I have renewed respect for the ANC and the NDC after watching Cyril Ramaphosa deliver the results.

      Nyiks11 - 2012-02-04 16:14

      I take it you will show the same respect for the same ANC when it redeploys him to the NYDA or Limpopo legislature as convenor for economic transformation sub-committee

  • Sibongakonke Maseko - 2012-02-04 14:58

    Thank you ANC...sorry wood boy hahahaha

  • Patsy - 2012-02-04 15:01

    Good. A bit of justice at last!!!!

  • Ashley - 2012-02-04 15:01

    HHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHH FKING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • Vosloo - 2012-02-04 15:01

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaa wat n tyd mors hy het geweet hy verloor maar sy bek is og steeds groot hy moet terug skool toe om hout werk te gaan leer

  • Larry - 2012-02-04 15:04

    Will this guy please lie down and die now. Enough already.

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-02-04 15:04

    Juju the comeback kid with 9 lives , the end might be near but not as near as some might think .

      Mothibi Rragwe Reba Makoro - 2012-02-04 15:26

      Ao shame,wa ikgotatsa?

      Nyiks11 - 2012-02-04 15:31

      @Mothibi Not really , in my view this case should have been concluded long ago . . these internal processes are just prolonging the inevitable. The guilty verdict has been upheld , now referring the case back to the NDC serves to breathe some life back into his appeal

      Nyiks11 - 2012-02-05 10:07

      @Stephan The ANC has a history of not living up to its promises , don't get your hopes up .As I stated previously , this case should have been concluded long ago but alas here we are still debating the if what when why and how . If you really believe the end is here then you are no better than someone who voted ANC since '94.

  • hannesw1 - 2012-02-04 15:04

    Let's PARTYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! Every now and again we get another reason to stay a little while longer...

  • Sandy - 2012-02-04 15:05

    Y pee best news ever ###%%00 blady agent..................

  • Sandy - 2012-02-04 15:08

    My congrats to the ANC well done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • thabangq - 2012-02-04 15:09

    How long is the NPA and Hawks pouncing in on Malema and Mathale?!! The suspence is killing me>

  • Mariska Pretorius - 2012-02-04 15:10

    http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html The world wide organization "Genocide Watch" has stated the following in their last report in 2011 when SA was upgraded to a stage 6, in the 8 stages of Genocide: "Genocide Watch will keep South Africa at Stage 6 - Preparation, until Julius Malema is removed from his position of growing power." Stage 7 is Extermination!

  • Sinudeity - 2012-02-04 15:11

    Yho lihlazo eli abantu babethwe kangaka.

      Xavier7034 - 2012-02-04 15:15

      Mimi pia kuzungumza lugha nyingine rafiki yangu - hiyo sisi sote ni vigumu kupata kutafsiri ... kile ni hatua yako?

      Sinudeity - 2012-02-04 15:21

      Wenzani?

  • Obert - 2012-02-04 15:15

    I don't why blacks we rejoicing because this is victory for DA ( white in particular)over blacks.

      Malcolm - 2012-02-04 15:22

      No Obert, this is a victory for justice and for level headed thinking over mamparahood!!

      Vegi - 2012-02-04 15:24

      This betrayal will not last. We will never allow our country to be handed over to the DA which is the offspring of the evil Nationalist Party on a silver platter. Never.

      Willem - 2012-02-04 15:30

      F8ck all racists this is South Africa for everyone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Mantsho - 2012-02-04 15:31

      Dont be divisive, it is not DA fault that Malema was a Rubbish Leader. he pretend to speak for poor black people, but he was stealing from them. take a look at Limpopo, its a mess. and you big man like that standing there and you cannot think right, wake up man!

      Mantsho - 2012-02-04 16:00

      @ Viqi Your all over here on news24,telling people this and that. l understand that DA is a threat to some of you here, well some of blacks like me who want change we are voting for it, you cant do nothing about this can you, even if DA come to power you will still not do nothing about it, So now go and comfort your leader Malema, he need it.

      Khayalakhe - 2012-02-04 16:25

      your comment is racial and baseless. Think with your head, Zille did not send this boy to be disrespectful and arrogant. Come on Oby.

      michelle.dekok - 2012-02-04 17:11

      Why must you always bring up the race issue. Racism needs to die so we can all live in peace in our beautiful country. The past is the passed if it keeps getting brought up every time some policical figure does not get his own way then this country will die like most of the other countries in Africa where there is just poverty and hunger and no jobs. Forget about color we are all South Africans and we all need to do what is best for our country.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-04 18:52

      @ Obert.. I will never understand how people like you can have the courage to show their ignorance and stupidity on a forum like this. The DA has got nothing to do with this. If you did the trouble to source available facts you will find that the DA membership has almost twice as many black and brown members than whites. @ Vegi..Dont try to give the impression that you are an intellectual or academic. You're a bloody fraud. The DA are certainly not an offsprig of the old Nationlist party. On the contrary, It was the ANC who welcomed a few of the old Nationlist parlementarians into their fold. Do your homework before you put such rubbish in your comments.. but come to think of it, I cant blame you..you probably got your nick 'cos you have extensive brain damage. We call people like that "Vegi's" .. so either get your facts right or explain why you are so stupid in your comments so we'll all understand your nonsensical stupidity and excuse you.

  • Vegi - 2012-02-04 15:15

    I am also dissappointed in Cyril Ramaphosa's mediocre legal abilities despite having been a lawyer at some stage in his life. For instance he said members of the ANC are entitled to have different opinions regarding the press utterances of Shabangu and Derek Hanekom, yet he failed to see the press utterances of Malema on Botswana in the same light, thus treating members of the same entity in highly discriminatory fashion. Also he failed to take cognisance of the previous conduct of the ANC e.g. failure to prefer disciplinary charges against Mandela and others when they showed the ANC a middle finger regarding the latter's pathetic passive resistance. Lately ANC members in the form of Cosatu leaders invaded Zimbabwe and Swaziland and in both instances they were deported back to South Africa. The ANC did not even lift a finger. So why is Malema and his group being singled out for his mild statements against Botswana. I have lost all respect for Ramaphosa. If even after mitigation the sanction of suspension is returned, we will push with even renewed vigour for the restoration of our ancestral lands as well the uplifting of our natural resources from the imperialists who are currently pilfering them with the connivance of the so called leaders.

      Obert - 2012-02-04 15:19

      you are right VEGI

      Malcolm - 2012-02-04 15:28

      Vegi, if you've lost respect for Ramaphosa, then you've lost respect for the ANC. Time to change your vote then?

      Willem - 2012-02-04 15:31

      @Obert go and take your traditional medicine

      Willem - 2012-02-04 15:41

      @Vegi P1111111111111111111111111111ssssssssssssssssssssssssoff

      trix.duvenage - 2012-02-04 21:29

      VEGI....yes vegetable... is a good term to describe yout attitude and your manner of reasoning. Its through stooges like you that the transformation of this country happens at such a slow pace. Get to grips with reality my man. Get over the Malema sindrome and wake up to see the new heaven and the new earth. It seems as if you know just enough about politics to be dangerous and THAT is sad.

  • Charmaine - 2012-02-04 15:20

    My prayers have been answered all the troublemakers are being brought to justice. Thank you Father God! Man makes plans but it is YOUR WILL that prevails and South Africa belongs to God and He will keep all South AFricans safe and save this country for all who are trying to bring it down!!

      Tshediso Sefolo - 2012-02-04 15:50

      Malema is not ANCYL, suspending him does not silence the ancyl but it teaches the one who will be taking over the presidential seat to be wise enough not to become media friendly, cos there are a lot of malemas and even worse than him in the youth league.

  • Peter - 2012-02-04 15:22

    A pity this has happened, he was bringing the ANC to its knee's. His right wing backers should act quickly to get him reinstated, he was an excellent weapon against the ANC.

  • eradingoana - 2012-02-04 15:22

    The Appeals have been dismissed but is amazing that the matter has been referred back for mitigation of sentence. Politicians! How can you dismiss the Appeal but allow mitigation because that mitigation might have an impact on the sentence? The sentences have been confirmed so what is the use of going for mitigation anyway?

      Vegi - 2012-02-04 15:48

      It is very boring to argue with an ignorant person. The sentence of suspension has been quashed. Only after mitigation will a new sentence be imposed. Don't listen to the ignorant journalists, it will compound your own ignorance.

      Willem - 2012-02-04 16:04

      @vegi such big words

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