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Malema to ask ANC to overturn suspension

2012-01-23 13:44

Johannesburg - Fiery youth leader Julius Malema was expected to ask the ANC to set aside his five-year suspension on Monday.

His appeal began without any of the unrest that plagued the start of his disciplinary hearing in August, when his supporters clashed with police in Johannesburg.

The party kept a thick veil of secrecy on the proceedings.

"It's a pending decision. Nobody will talk to the media about the matter," ANC spokesperson Keith Khoza said.

Five other ANC Youth League leaders will appeal similar suspensions during the same hearings, by a committee that includes senior party leaders such as businessman Cyril Ramaphosa, Justice Minister Jeff Radebe and National Planning Minister Trevor Manuel.

A dozen journalists outnumbered onlookers at the ANC headquarters in central Johannesburg early on Monday, while a few police officers stood guard.

Not allowed to plead for lesser sentence

A lone protester wearing an ANC shirt and cap and chains around his neck, waist, wrists and ankles urged Ramaphosa to be harsh.

The man held a placard with the words: "Comrade Cyril, do the right thing, there's no case here, just shackles."

Malema is expected to ask for his suspension to be overturned because he was not allowed to plead for a lesser sentence.

In November he was found guilty of sowing divisions within the ANC, misconduct and bringing the party into disrepute, following weeks of hearings that were marred by violent protests.

The charge of bringing the party into disrepute stemmed from his call for a regime change in democratic Botswana.

Malema and the youth league apologised for the statement. He is likely to argue that the disciplinary committee should have dropped the charge because of the apology.

Anti-Zuma campaign


His suspension will only take effect once he exhausts his appeals, which he could take all the way to the ANC National Executive Committee, which will meet in December at the party's leadership conference.

Malema has kept his anti-Zuma campaign at full-throttle despite the disciplinary process.

During the ANC's centennial celebrations earlier this month, Malema held his own rallies where supporters sang songs ridiculing the president.

The ruling party excluded the youth league from addressing the official anniversary celebrations.

But ejecting Malema from the party would not eliminate the threat he poses, according to Fiona Forde, author of a Malema biography.

"Malema is the latest thing and it is unlikely that suspending or even expelling him from the ANC at this stage will clip his wings in any meaningful way," Forde wrote in The Star newspaper on Monday.

Comments
  • Eduard - 2012-01-23 13:58

    Comrade Cyril, do the right thing, there's no case here, just shackles." Good comment.....actually....

      Whitty - 2012-01-23 15:28

      Ask Malema, you will be pardoned.You are one of us and will always be.

      Moss - 2012-01-23 15:44

      "Malema's screams about economic apartheid indirectly point out Mandela's unfinished assignment of liberating blacks from apartheid" Sowetan. I am suprised Cyril is all of a sudden your comrade

  • Sam - 2012-01-23 13:59

    I trust Trevor, they must be smart and get Susan Shabangu out the hearing committee... She is like heath on Zuma's case. They mus also get rid of Derek Hanekom, the reason we are still talking about land it is partly because of him

      David - 2012-01-23 16:40

      you fool, go live in zimbabwe for a month, that should give you sufficient time to change your mind, or are you too daft? can't you see what damage will be done you stubborn donkey?

      Sam - 2012-01-23 16:56

      @Williams, our minister of minerals etc, Susan Shabangu. Has been against Malema's opinions for sometime, she is aginst him. I will get u last years papers to show u. Think about it, if I put in a judge that hates u, on yr case. The guy doesn't even look at the matter his mind is made up way before the case it is even pointless to go to court. Same applies to Derek. I like ur reasoning David, it shows that yr smart. Especially the part where u state the fact. Malema has been very vocal about land and minerals. So people in those departments can't chair his case. We need people who are neutral so that they can look at the case not the person

      Schalk - 2012-01-24 19:45

      @Sam, you still have not answered Wiliam's question. "Who in your opinion achieved and what did they achieve?" I would like to hear your answer.

  • Vegi - 2012-01-23 14:01

    The fact that Malema is hated by our former oppressors says a lot about him. The fact that some of the so called leaders are loved by the feudal lords (captains of industry) says a lot about them. Do I need to say more?

      Michele - 2012-01-23 14:04

      No, please don't.

      Simon Nape - 2012-01-23 14:14

      Nothing more to say! Well said

      Kagisho - 2012-01-23 14:16

      Yes @Vegi, please say more as you have said huge statements amounting to a baloon with lots and lots of nothing but air in it...? NB: Kindly provide this forum with empirical evidence that forms the basis of your argument...as for Mr Malema's plea... the DC needs to really think this through before deciding to overturn its decision, as this might just work against their initial intent and more so send a mixed message to the ANC at large.

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-01-23 14:19

      Your drivel confirms your vegetative state.

      John - 2012-01-23 14:23

      Please do.... because so far you have said nothing..... You failed to add that he is also hated by many of the leaders in YOUR party. You also failed to mention that he is hated by those is business and industry for the damage he has/is causing to the economy of this country.... He's probably also hated by the leaders of our neighbours, Botswana, one of the economically successful countries on this continent. But I'm sure Mugabe likes him.....

      Rob - 2012-01-23 14:24

      Vegi: Thank you for your perspective, it is important that educated and intelligent people have as complete as possible view of the mileu in SA. The reality that Malema and his ilk are destructive to the economy, and that that will negatively affect everyone, even the poorest, is unlikely to have much effect on those that have opinions such as yours.

      Simon Nape - 2012-01-23 14:30

      @Kagisho what more or kind of evidence do you want? Vegi's statement is bold but also easy to comprehend. And how can a decision work against them if the over turn it? ANC is already divided due to this case & upholding the decision will increase the divisions.

      Larry - 2012-01-23 15:49

      Enough said.

      Bryan - 2012-01-23 15:56

      @Vegi... No, you don't need to say more.. but I will..., You are an A.S.S.H.O.L.E

      Sharon - 2012-01-23 16:20

      I dont hate him ...........he hates me all he has done is bring about more poverty and shame to his people

  • Comrade - 2012-01-23 14:11

    JULIAAS MALEMA ...WHO??

  • Thabiso - 2012-01-23 14:12

    All officials are corrupt so people shouls stop pointing one idividual & using power to settle political scores so julius Malema should be retained to his position

      CdeSganja - 2012-01-23 14:31

      My Sentiments exaclty.

      John - 2012-01-23 14:32

      Maybe all the officials should be suspended then..... Are you a government or provincial official??

      trevor06 - 2012-01-23 14:46

      @ Thabiso - You are a complete tool!

      Sam - 2012-01-23 15:19

      with immediate effect

  • OhbiZz - 2012-01-23 14:12

    News24 you guys hace already reported that Malema's appeal is underway. There is no need to keep re-phrasing the same news item. Try getting some fresh info before spewing anymore old news

      OhbiZz - 2012-01-23 14:13

      Oops.....read have at hace

      Gerhard - 2012-01-23 14:17

      And in more news, Julius Malema's appeal is still underway and we have still not heard anything as yet. He is expected to ask for his suspension to be overturned and, in breaking news, he will request to be reappointed president of the ANCYL. Stay tuned for more breaking news as and when it happens. Our next report should detail what was had for lunch as a lone protestor walks past Luthuli house.

      OhbiZz - 2012-01-23 15:31

      The latest report coming in is that besides Malema 5 other suspended Youth League leaders will appeal against their sentences. The appeals are currently underway at Luthuli House. There is no indication as to whether anybody from the Luthuli family made it there, but it is confirmed Cyril Ramaphosa is present

  • Roy - 2012-01-23 14:15

    If this should happen,it will drive another nail into the ANC coffin and would prove that Malema and the "youth" league run the ANC. They ,the ANC, should punish Malema otherwise if they don't it will come back to haunt them.

  • Phumi - 2012-01-23 14:17

    Fiona Forde wrote an aubituary for Malema and not biography! What is needed here is an African solution to an African problem! Not the Western way of doing things like these so called 'deciplinary procedures'. If there was any ill-decipline or transgression made then a fine in terms of number of cows in isiXhosa it is called 'ukudliwa'. We have much more pressing issues to attend to and the enemy is happy with these developments that are derailing us! I urge all the comrades to unite and defeat this white colonial preserve that is still keeping the bread out of peoples mouth!

      Gerhard - 2012-01-23 14:28

      Remind me, how many billions has been wasted in Limpopo? How many millions on parties? How many millions on two back-up planes? How many millions on renovations to residences? Please tell me how the colonials are "keeping the bread out of peoples mouth"?

      Rob - 2012-01-23 14:34

      Phumi: Who cares what the solution is called, African, European, Chinese even. Just as long as it stops, or at least significant;ly reduces, the damage that Malema and like people are doing to the economy, country, people, future, stability, efficiency @@@@@@@@.

      Rob - 2012-01-23 14:51

      On second thoughts maybe the Syrian solution will be more effective

      trevor06 - 2012-01-23 14:53

      @ Phumi - Are you being serious? How many cows would your beloved ANC have to fork out to pay their corrupt selfish ways? If you want to pay in cows, and handle this the African way, then get off the computer, sell your house, your car, actually sell everything you own that was made the 'western way' , and then start talking! The thing you don't understand, is that even though you don't like the 'Western way', it has influenced your culture whether you like it or not!

      ericvb - 2012-01-23 14:53

      Argh, someone would have to pull the race card. Why do people have to do this every time? The simple fact is: We are a democracy. That means issues have to be dealt with in a democratic way. Not playing with cows or whatever silly suggestion you mention.

      Travis - 2012-01-23 15:08

      @Phumi.....Malema is that you trolling?

      Sharon - 2012-01-23 16:28

      Malema is giving oral statements ....WHY ....because he is flucken stupid and cant write all he does is incite violence and mayhem .......put him in jail where his purple suite will attract a lot of daddies, he cannot even unite his flucken shoelaces someone has to do it for him

  • Phumi - 2012-01-23 14:22

    Fiona Forde wrote an aubituary for Malema and not a biography! We couldnt be bothered about her sponsored views! What is needed here is an African solution to an African problem! Not this Western way of doing things like these so called 'deciplinary procedures'. If there was any ill-decipline or transgression made then a fine in terms of number of cows in isiXhosa it is called 'ukudliwa' that fit the case in hand. It must be paid as an apology and a punishment. We have much more pressing issues to attend to and the enemy is happy with these developments that are derailing us! I urge all the comrades to unite and defeat this white colonial preserve that is still keeping the bread out of our peoples mouth!

      Simon Nape - 2012-01-23 14:37

      Phumi Bravo, well said!

      nisbetdm - 2012-01-23 14:37

      Gerhard - January 23, 2012 at 14:28 Remind me, how many billions has been wasted in Limpopo? How many millions on parties? How many millions on two back-up planes? How many millions on renovations to residences? Please tell me how the colonials are "keeping the bread out of peoples mouth"?

      Daniel - 2012-01-23 14:44

      Hahahaha... Idiot. 'Deciplinary'... The only people stealing the bread out of your mouth, are the ANC. VIVA!

      Gerhard - 2012-01-23 14:50

      Simon, that will be two head of cattle from you as 'ukudliwa'. We cannot let stupid comments go by without an apology or punishment.

      shandukane.moshatana - 2012-01-23 14:52

      phumi teach all this people the way of our great grandfathers

      Simon Nape - 2012-01-23 15:27

      @Gerhard I'm willing to pay more, I mean 2 cows is nothing! @Nisbetdm the Goverment has done well thus far so don't let few millions worry you ok. Current biggest challenges for SA is job creation & the government is doing a good job thus far compared to private sector in creating jobs!

      Simon Nape - 2012-01-23 15:29

      @Gerhard I'm willing to pay more, I mean 2 cows is nothing! @Nisbetdm the Goverment has done well thus far so don't let few millions worry you ok. Current biggest challenges for SA is job creation & the government is doing a good job thus far compared to private sector in creating jobs!

      Sam - 2012-01-23 16:19

      @nisbetdm, Is Juju mister of Limpopo? does he even have access to limpopo's budget?

      Activity Bookings - 2012-01-23 17:16

      @Simon, a few million, lets make it a few billion that was stolen, now if this few billion was put into job creation it could have made a difference. Please tell us where the government created so many jobs, did your president not give a speech the other day on the failure of job creation?

      Simon Nape - 2012-01-24 08:32

      @Activity read the news, check the recent StatsSA release on job creation; Public sector has produced more jobs than private sector & that's a fact. The president acknowledged that we can do more because our inflation is on the rise living the poor to suffer even more! And we can do more starting with the selfish private sector shareholders who benefited from apartheid but refuse to repent from the sins committed by their forefathers!!!

  • adrian.berghoff - 2012-01-23 14:25

    Just say no.

      CdeSganja - 2012-01-23 14:34

      With an answer like that I'm pretty sure you have sub A.You don't know procedure...

      TheWatcher - 2012-01-23 15:13

      Procedure: Get a tender from your comrades in govt -> take lots of money from poor people -> Pretend to be on their side while they live in squalor and you in luxury -> Spout contentious dribble to keep the media interested and maybe if you say sorry quick enough you'll get away with it. Throw in some Zuma-Bashing and I think it's all there...

  • Samuel - 2012-01-23 14:35

    It seems the more radical, corrupt and left wing you are the better your chances are to get cadre appointments.The more you can stiff stable society and sound reason the better.The theatrics, imbecilic statements and unconcievable policies are really getting more macabre by the day.When are we going to see some sensible leadership by the ANC.

  • Nyiko Ngobeni - 2012-01-23 14:40

    Don't we already know malema is trying to have his suspension overturned? This headline is a no brainer and a waste of time, why don't you wait for real news to report?

      shandukane.moshatana - 2012-01-23 14:51

      sho nyiko

  • Papikie - 2012-01-23 14:40

    People who are afraid of change, are busy trying to destroy a change agent of SA. Some people are confortable where they are and so they feel that change may not bring better life to them.

      shandukane.moshatana - 2012-01-23 14:50

      true bro

      Rob - 2012-01-23 15:02

      Papikie: Of course people (some) are afraid of change. That is the nature of the human condition. But once you add disruption, and even violence, to the formula you add fear of loss to fear of change. It is wiser to choose your "change agents" carefully based on their ability to make change, not destruction...and that takes skill, inteligence and deternmination rather than populist rhetoric.

      Sinudeity - 2012-01-23 15:31

      Yeah, the tenderpreneurs are afraid of change.

      ericvb - 2012-01-23 18:05

      "bloody agent"!

  • Papikie - 2012-01-23 14:43

    People must understand that the DC is not about the real disciplinary measures but a way block change in both leadreship and Economic environment. People who are afraid for a change have clubed together to fight the change agents. Viva economic freedom in our life time

      ericvb - 2012-01-23 15:01

      LOL @ "change agents". Is that his latest title? We all want change, but change for the better. Change that affects the poor that need it. Do yourself a favour - read up about Julius Malema and read up about Helen Zille. One has a big mouth, causes in-fighting, has bought a massive house and expensive cars. The other has made a massive positive improvement to the Western Cape, uniting people and improving Service Delivery for the poor whilst sitting in the same house and driving a cheap car. Ask yourself - who is really working for the people?

  • Deon - 2012-01-23 14:44

    No, add another 5 years.

      CdeSganja - 2012-01-23 14:48

      Hey Deon why you scare Malema so much?

      Deon - 2012-01-23 17:19

      We might be scaring him into Cope, we hope!

  • J.D. - 2012-01-23 14:47

    so because he was not allowed to plea for a leser sentence he now want NO sentence. Why do I fail to get that logic?

      CdeSganja - 2012-01-23 14:53

      J.D there was no case in the first place, YL will argue that Mantashe was wrong to bring the charges. Got it now?

      Deon - 2012-01-23 17:21

      We must remember he had another suspended sentence against him the previous year, (suspended for 2 years). He won't be pardoned.

  • shandukane.moshatana - 2012-01-23 14:49

    viva Malema Viva......Hate him love him u choz he mean well to young people all over s.a...pls help s.a by removing Zuma ge is the cause of everything.he brought him to the top and he will bring him down.hey people dont get me wrong am not malemas suppoter or hatter but just tlling the truth

  • RE - 2012-01-23 14:55

    ag malema, go join another thief/rapist group (in zim) .

  • Trevor - 2012-01-23 14:55

    Fiona Forde, no-one knew who you were till you launched your book on Boy Julius now, one could swear you best buddies way you praise the idiot of the villiage....If Julius gets away with this...SA is in big trouble...

  • pdilapiso - 2012-01-23 14:56

    those who are not ANC members, has the nerve to commentate about party issues,whereas they dont have any cooking clue what the ANC is all about.."they thought they knew the extent of suffering that our people underwent during the dark days of apartheid's repression."

      Daniel - 2012-01-23 15:14

      It's a democracy. I can comment on what ever issue I have a desire to comment on. Don't worry though, soon the info bill will be passed and then you will get the silence you so greatly desire.

      pdilapiso - 2012-01-23 15:44

      ANC is not National Party thats what you Daniel you dont understand! Malema is not hendrick Verwoer!

      Rob - 2012-01-23 15:49

      Hey Pdilapiso: Your reflection on the suffering during the dark days is interesting. Are those dark days over? If you believe that they are...well ok, you got what you wished for. If you believe that they are not then isn't it time for change away from ANC? My point is never forget the lessons of history, but remember that history is only valid when considering the past. So move on!

      Daniel - 2012-01-23 15:52

      You are absolutely correct, hence my right to comment as I please when the party responsible for OUR country is at fault. We all have a right to comment and hope for a better future for ALL. And to be really honest, Malema is no good for anyone except himself.

      Simon Nape - 2012-01-23 16:10

      @Dilapiso I'm also not ANC, but I support Malema so its ok if I can comment neh? And I understand the impact of apartheid! Viva nationalisation of wealth, viva land expropriation without compensation! Anyway I feel sorry for those that think Malema is finished, this is just the begining of big things to come! Look at Zimbabwe now, despite their drastic nationalisation policies, their economy Is thriving back & as it stands their inflation is well controlled below the SA inflation. Zim is an investment destination & with food prices becoming even higher, I tell you we will soon be buying our groceries in Zim.

      pdilapiso - 2012-01-23 16:15

      We will never live together like a rainbow nation if you still feel that disparity in our society is acceptable. Rob, Daniel & many of your people, we have moved on as Africans that’s why we can tolerate these kinds of irrational commends! ANC is doing very well.!

  • eradingoana - 2012-01-23 15:06

    Probably Expulsion is better than Suspension. Place the country on peace Cyril which you worked for at Trade Centre when you were negotiating by flushing the young man. His disrespect has made his upbringing questionable and that affect his tribalism.

  • jenny.gormanandrews1 - 2012-01-23 15:07

    I see he missed the taste of his toenails!

  • ericvb - 2012-01-23 15:14

    Malema is very vocally anti-Zuma. He's dug his own grave and has no chance of having this decision reversed.

  • pdilapiso - 2012-01-23 15:40

    What Cadre Malema caused this country is nothing compared to the depravity and evil which has been brought upon our people! Malema was send by GOD!!!

      Gerhard - 2012-01-23 15:50

      So Malema was sent by God? So you can compare him to Jesus? And did they not say that the ANC will rule until the second coming of Jesus? So you are predicting the downfall of the ANC? Well done and thank you for putting this all in perspective!

      Rob - 2012-01-23 16:01

      Interesting....In a civilised democracy comments such as Pdilapiso's regarding Malema being sent by GOD will be considered the ravings of the criminally insane. How are they seen in Africa, and especially SA?????

      pdilapiso - 2012-01-23 16:25

      maybe you guys never heard about the evil tht your previous regime has done in this country!all of you has cause awful(evil) things to mankind, we should've imprison all of you....but we didn't, because we though you are human beings, but clearly you just here to enrich yourselves! you people are just greedy (Gluttonous)!!

      Sharon - 2012-01-23 16:43

      God will never send a DEVIL in a PURPLE suit ......Malema and the current ANC is Devil worshippers, they steal everything for themselves and bugger anyone else and they rape women and get away with it.......I am sure I missed a whole lot more .....that is not from GOD

      rowan.maulson - 2012-01-23 17:02

      Please... God had nothing to do with it... He was conceived by his parents... and he is a cretin and a theif, and a liar, and many many more dispicable things. Don't bring religion into something where it has no place.

      Deon - 2012-01-23 17:23

      Maybe only to test us.

  • Sharon - 2012-01-23 16:18

    No way ...........no going back on a penelty....

  • Andre - 2012-01-23 16:27

    If he gets off, the ANC will be seen as more weaker than ever. If there is anyone that deserves a good spank, it it this dumby.

  • Henning - 2012-01-23 16:41

    Let him beg,on his knees....then make him beg some more!

  • Comrade - 2012-01-24 10:46

    fooosseeek malema.

  • Jason - 2012-01-25 12:34

    To Julius and all his supporters, learn to read about the rest of the world and how it works, we have left the stone age many thousands of years ago. its 2012!!!! Wake up, Stupidity went out of fashion a long,long time ago....

  • Wandile - 2012-01-27 16:31

    let us not turn d blind eye on d issues here. Both these people are our comrades, they both under one organisation (ANC). So d party has its constitution. they hv comitte which controls the leadership. ANCYL, ANCWL, MKMVA and the Allies like SACP and Cosatu, even though the league and allies hv their independent constitution, but again is not a call from one league to come to a conclusion that certai members need to be replaced because they dn't reach certain league demand. Here ANC as a mother board has evry right to take disciplinary majors against the hooligans. This part ws formed by gr8 leaders from all over SA, we hv people wu supported d movement because it ws not presenting one man's view but collective. So we need to rectify our past mistakes. no one is above ANC, Nor JZ or Juju, but for me I plead to all comrades to support d current leadership, and leave aside our differences, lets unite ti build a better South africa, let us honour our current president while he is in charge, we will replace him when the ryt time has come, but for now we r causing a major damage to our party. please we need to move forward not to blame one another on the media.

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