Malema under fire over slur on Indians

2011-10-20 10:27

Johannesburg - There was outrage over ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema calling Indians "coolies" at a gathering in Thembelihle, south of Johannesburg, according to a report on Thursday.

"Bana ba lena ba tshwanetše ba dumelelwe gore ba tsene sekolo le bana ba makula mona [your children must be allowed to go to school with coolie children]," he was quoted as saying by Business Day newspaper.

Over 600 residents had gathered to hear Malema speak ahead of planned marches for "economic freedom" in Johannesburg and Pretoria.

Minority Front leader, Amichand Rajbansi was outraged by Malema's pronouncements, according to the report.

"Mr Malema is doing great harm to social cohesion and interracial harmony," Rajbansi was quoted saying.

He urged the African National Congress to take steps against Malema.

ANC spokesperson Keith Khoza told Business Day the ruling party was not aware of the matter.

"But certainly we expect ANC leadership to be responsible in any pronouncement... they need not offend other communities," Khoza told the newspaper.

  • Mike - 2011-10-20 10:31

    If JM can get away with this Darren Scott should get his job back at Multi Choice

      Rory - 2011-10-20 10:35

      Goodness NO flippen ways!!! Blacks can't be racist!!! That is the domain of the white man!

      Robs - 2011-10-20 11:56

      Darren Scott said his word in relative privacy. Not from a stage during a speech. And I don't think Malema said it so innocently. It was a political speech about equal rights. It was said by someone who want non-paying schoolchildren to attend high class schools probably for free.

  • msendi - 2011-10-20 10:33

    What is wrong with this guy???

      vdwjasper - 2011-10-20 11:30

      I'm in no way a Malema fan, but in what way is "cooley" derogatory? What does it even mean? I can literally see the porras licking their lips for the first public figure to call them that.

      Msendie - 2011-10-20 11:48

      his brains are disfunctional if excited about something (lots of Coke if you ask me)

      nasheenar - 2011-10-20 13:15

      @VDWJasper the name coolie was given to the Indian slaves that were brought over to SA from India to work in the cane fields. This was the name the English had given to the indians. "Coolies" were not allowed to walk on pavements or travel in 1st class on the the train or own land, hence the name Coolie has quite a bitter taste to it. Such a pity we have names for each other and just cant seem to move on.

      Jack - 2011-10-20 15:00

      Actually, the word Coolie comes from Urdu and means "day-labourer". It was used by the Pommies to describe any unskilled labour from the Asian region (including China, Japan and India amongst others). It became the SA word for a person of Indian descent through usage - all the Indians at that time being "coolies". The various Nguni names for persons of Indian descent were derived from the word Coolie, which is now considered to be politically incorrect. The Nguni variations are thus, by association, politically incorrect.

      nasheenar - 2011-10-20 15:22

      VDWJasper - Wiki's take on the word Coolie.Coolie (variously spelled Cooli, Cooly, Kuli, Quli, Koelie etc.) is a historical term for manual labourers or slaves from Asia, particularly China, India, and the Phillipines during the 19th century and early 20th century. It is also a contemporary racial slur or ethnic nickname for people of Asian descent, including people from India, Central Asia, etc[1], particularly in South Africa[2

      debbie.van.niekerk - 2012-05-09 13:08

      I know the answer... I KNOW the answer... He is not stupid he just has bad luck with his thinking..... shoooeee fly....

  • mel.mcbride1 - 2011-10-20 10:33

    oh this man is something else.

  • Jaco - 2011-10-20 10:35

    I have many Indian friend they are hurt and angry. There is no difference between that word and any other derogatory terms used for other races. Really... C'MON REALLY!!!!!!!!!

  • leeann.rowandewitt - 2011-10-20 10:36

    He is digging his own grave "hopefully".

      Anton - 2011-10-22 09:38

      hope he doesn't have to make his own coffin; woodwork not his strong point!

  • Thulebona - 2011-10-20 10:37

    Not surprised anymore. Something is wrong with this guy. Seriously. Indians are our friends! Fought with them side by side.

      mastersvoice - 2011-10-20 11:04

      Thulebona - fighting side by side sounds like you were at war. Which war would that have been, and when?

      Oboa - 2011-10-20 11:30

      Thulebona, why do the whole Africa love struggling so much? You are in charge now but still struggling. Is that a cultural thing?

      Peter - 2011-10-20 11:40

      @Thulebona. Everybody fights a war in some sense or other, not just against each other with weapons of war. there are so many different types of "wars" that we all fight. We all fight to survive. They are all struggles. We all have our own ideals and needs ( not wants ). It's how the others interperate the individual struggles each and everyone of us have.

      mastersvoice - 2011-10-20 11:55

      Thulebona - you may be right that I don't have an imagination, but I'm still wondering what you mean by "fought with them side by side"? No malice intended, but I would like to understand the context.

      Merven - 2011-10-20 13:49

      Planting bombs in shopping centres, targeting women and children is NOT fighting, you coward.

  • msendi - 2011-10-20 10:43

    Since he was discharged from the hospital, his madness is worse.

      Peter - 2011-10-20 13:00

      ......... and the media just loves it (the madness)......... it must be hurtful for the Indian community, and Indians who are members of the YOOF league. I wonder what they think about baby Juliarse, or this the YYOF league exclusively for Black ppl ?.

  • Koos - 2011-10-20 10:45

    "ANC spokesperson Keith Khoza told Business Day the ruling party was not aware of the matter." And for that matter they are not aware of ANY matter. It's a culture!

  • jomardl - 2011-10-20 10:45

    Wow, this guy is just poison. A big bucket full of hate.

  • ndlovucl - 2011-10-20 10:46

    Khoza what are you going to do about it? JM at it again, this behaviour will never stop!

  • Sean Newton - 2011-10-20 10:50

    This Malema guy is a disgrace! He is no better than our racist forefathers.

      TheRock - 2011-10-30 21:27

      What racist forefathers? Stop living with a chip on your shoulder.

  • Gavin - 2011-10-20 10:55

    I don't get what he means by "your children must be allowed to go to school with c**lie children"? Firstly, I am Indian, raised in a so-called 'Indian' area, and in my entire high school years (mid-90s) I studied alongside black students. I now have children who are in pre-school and they are also learning alongside black and white students. So what am I missing out here?

      Samantha - 2011-10-20 13:14

      thats also what i can't understand,

      TheRock - 2011-10-30 21:33

      More importantly you've got to ask why he feels their children shouldn't just be happy going to school with their own black children. The Indians and whites don't have a problem if they don't go to schools with black children so why do they have a problem if their people don't go to schools with children from other races? Does he really see blacks as that inferior and does he feel if blacks go to "only black" schools they're being discriminated against. Perhaps he knows something we don't about blacks. Interesting!!

  • Mandla - 2011-10-20 10:58

    it is unfortunate that most of us when we refer to Indians in our native language we usually call them Makula, however it is unfortunate and regretable that the ghost of colonialism is still haunting us. Cde Julius was not speaking in the spirit of racial segregation. i would say his utterances were informed by racial hatred if he had spoken in English. just that certain people like to be alarmists and they get this to be an opportunity to persue their pythonic agenda

      mastersvoice - 2011-10-20 11:12

      Mandla - its a sad day when followers have to try and make up excuses for their leaders. Malema's true colours are shining through, but his die-hard supporters are still in denial.

      Karien - 2011-10-20 11:30

      The problem is his supporters support him because they like what he is saying and agree with him. That is the very reason for them being his supporters.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2011-10-20 11:51

      Mandla refrain from the term "certain" people if you do not have the balls to name them. Rather use the word "some" because using "certain" is like an instigating without substance.

      Harry - 2011-10-20 14:55

      Okay, Lets say that he made another mistake. So, what is the comment about "going to school with Indians". What is he trying to say? Black kids have been going to schools in previously Indian areas since the early 90's. Does he have evidence that certain schools are prevent Black students from attending. If so, then he should take the department of education to Court. @Mandla, I suspect he is just trying to get people to go to his march and support him but causing tension in that area between Black Africans and Indian people. I guess you can lead by creating unity or by sowing division...

      Red - 2011-11-16 00:29

      So what you are saying is that only white people need to reform their language as times change, but black people don't need to? Wow, that's incredibly racist. As times have changed and people have learned from their mistakes we have changed the words we use accordingly. There are certain words we no longer use to describe gay people, black people, people with disabilities and people of Indian decent. Are you telling me that black people are not capable of changing their vocabulary too? That was a very weak excuse Mandla. None of us are perfect.. white, black, gay or straight. Black people will never be able to lift themselves up as a people group until they get over blaming colonialism for absolutely everything. Weak cowardly people do that. I think you and SA black people are better and stronger than that and I have hope and faith that they (and you) can take responsibility for their own actions. It starts by making our leaders responsible for the things they do and say. Be a grown up. Be responsible for yourself. And hold the feet of our leaders to the flame.

  • jade.neil - 2011-10-20 11:00

    Uhmmmmmm was he not supposed to be in hospital for "flu-like" symptoms????????. he MOST certainly DOES NOT look sick. The ANC must get their heads out of their butts and do something about this brat (yes, even so-called adults behave like brats)

  • Carlin - 2011-10-20 11:03

    More and more Julius Malema reveals what we already know him to be.

  • sandimzilikazi - 2011-10-20 11:07

    the thing is Julius has got it in his thick head that he is invinsible, so much of his cr*p was overlooked and defended, sadly he still believes that he will continue being protected but unfortunately for him he keeps proving to us that he is an 1d10t

  • lilanie.scheffer - 2011-10-20 11:07

    When are the goverment going to stop this mentaly ill, power hungry idiot.

  • Nic - 2011-10-20 11:08

    He really does open his mouth to change feet.But he is Tokio's boy so give him a chance or 3 or 4 or as many as he needs to really run the ANC down

  • faerrab - 2011-10-20 11:10

    100 % of Schools in Lenasia acommodate 70-80% black students from Soweto and informal settlements. Lenasian's provide employment for most residents in the surrounding informal settlements, ANCYL provides nothing for their people

  • mightyman.rikhotso - 2011-10-20 11:13

    this is too much tjo

  • Christopher - 2011-10-20 11:15

    cant he just shut up and concentrate on his youth and leave different cultures alone

  • selvan.pillay2 - 2011-10-20 11:19

    The ANC bigwigs are so busy enriching themselves that they are totally unaware of the disgusting and moronic behaviour of idiots like malema. Maybe this is their private thoughts made public via juliarse.

  • Reshan - 2011-10-20 11:19

    Divide and conquer... this guy or the man behind his curtain is a genius. Divide the people by colour, religion, culture... promise the largest most powerful group everything if they follow you to war and you've just made yourself a king.

  • THABOM85 - 2011-10-20 11:21

    Even though i'm not JuJu's biggest fan, I'm a 100% percent sure that he meant no harm. All along i thought "makula" is just like referring to a white person as a "Mlungu" or "ngamla". Anyone who can brief me about the history of the word "COOLIE"?

      Rory - 2011-10-20 11:38

      Coolie (variously spelled Cooli, Cooly, Kuli, Quli, Koelie etc.) is a historical term for manual labourers or slaves from Asia, particularly China, India, and the Phillipines during the 19th century and early 20th century. It is also a contemporary racial slur or ethnic nickname for people of Asian descent, including people from India World English Dictionary coolie or cooly ('ku?l?) —n , pl -ies 1. a cheaply hired unskilled Oriental labourer 2. derogatory an Indian living in South Africa

      THABOM85 - 2011-10-20 12:25

      Thanx! Now i know.

  • Ben - 2011-10-20 11:22

    Wow... Anti ANC people couldn't ask for a better weapon... Hahahaha! He's ridiculous... Dividing a country one moronic statement at a time...

  • NrGx - 2011-10-20 11:24

    What an idiot - first he claims he is being persecuted then in the same breath calls indians "coolies". This racist slimeball has to be stopped!! In fact, melema you are a &^**$r, how does it feel to be called derogatory names? Perhaps you dont care as long you get another tender

  • Cristina - 2011-10-20 11:25

    Wow...what next is this Juju person going to treat us to????..Holy crap!!!

  • Jason - 2011-10-20 11:27

    WOW a wopping 600 supporters - Malema whats up china, Rent A Crowd too expenseef again.. You are losing it fatcat!!

  • Thabang - 2011-10-20 11:27

    What is all the rage about what Malema says?Is there nothing more to talk about?Ignore the guy people.

      Reshan - 2011-10-20 11:39

      That will be a big mistake, he has an army willing to walk up to the house of the mighty ANC and burn their flag, the president of this country sees him as a threat, ignoring him will be a massive mistake. We need to cut him down to size before he orders his army to war...

  • modumo - 2011-10-20 11:30

    To my knowledge< Malema said this in Sepedi and it now becomes an insult once translated, the sentiment was lost in translation. If anyone knows better please tell us what other word is used to describe indian people in African languages. There is no other word. that is the word, so this hype is all about nothing really.

      mastersvoice - 2011-10-20 12:30

      How about "Indian"...

      Gcwabe.KaMavovo - 2011-10-20 12:43

      Chief, in IsiZulu you would normally say "amaNdiya", and never "amakula" because we all know it's a racial slur. Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't the same apply in Sepedi?

  • erel.ngobeni - 2011-10-20 11:32

    Can anyone expalin what is the meanini of Indians in African Langauge and I think all of us we will understand the concept. Earl

      mastersvoice - 2011-10-20 12:38

      The Indians are people who originate from India. So let's start with the word "India" - in African languages it should probably be something similar. Now let's find something that would mean "people from India". Shouldn't be too difficult, I'd imagine.

  • Mervyn - 2011-10-20 11:35

    This really becoming annoining with all these slurs and apologies. Wake up and see what is actually happing in the country....

  • Allan - 2011-10-20 11:35

    You have to hand it to malena. Every time he digs a hole he competes with the Kimberley Diamond Mine.

  • Nkutist - 2011-10-20 11:37

    Aaargh, the guy must get a life now.... really!!!

  • Kevin - 2011-10-20 11:41

    Come on zoomer. You are too scared to take action. fat boy is out of line and the President to scared. When is this Banana Republic going to ever be led by honest courageous good humans like the DA

  • Eva - 2011-10-20 11:43

    This ignoramus just doesn't learn, does he? What an "Inconvenient Youth", or rather, "Ignorant Youth".

  • selvan.pillay2 - 2011-10-20 11:43

    This idiot juliarse malema seems to be an uneducated imbecile.Send him back to start his education from grade r.This time send him to a school with lots of Indian learners and educators.My apologies to his future classmates.Nobody should mix with crap like juliarse.

  • ben.nel2 - 2011-10-20 11:45

    Malema is nie Cool nie

  • bpodile - 2011-10-20 11:46

    We call them makula in townships and there is no problem with that,hands off our President Malema.

      Rory - 2011-10-20 12:21

      So we call you ka$%IR in our homes, there's nothing wrong with that??? Come on now! stop defending the undefendable!!! Its all lekker when it suits you "you guys" but you sing a different tune when its one of your own! Ha Ha, you just can't win with you lot.

  • Eugene - 2011-10-20 11:47

    And Malema just shot himself in his other foot...

  • colin.dovey - 2011-10-20 12:01

    Coolie (variously spelled Cooli, Cooly, Kuli, Quli, Koelie etc.) is a historical term for manual labourers or slaves from Asia, particularly China, India, and the Phillipines during the 19th century and early 20th century. It is also a contemporary racial slur or ethnic nickname for people of Asian descent, including people from India.

  • justin.pretorius - 2011-10-20 12:03

    I guess he is just echoing the real feelings of the African Nationalist Congress. Minorites will always be the targets by this regime

  • Nteek.Editor - 2011-10-20 12:03

    I think this is being blown waaaay out of proportion. for some of us "Lekula" literally translates into Indian, the same way "Legowa" translates into Caucasian. none of the above terms are meant to be offensive its just a vernac equivalent of the terms for races.

  • jack.kukard - 2011-10-20 12:19

    He is and will always be a idiot scumbag........

  • Alexi - 2011-10-20 12:20

    darren scott was fired usin the k word on radio ..... and malema continuesto slander away at all races !!... ANC PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS ONE !!........

      Gerald - 2011-10-20 15:02

      Alexi Darren did not say it on radio. He used the word during a PRIVATE function at Mabula Lodge BIG difference to using derogatory terms during a PUBLIC meeting. Of course the blacks will say it is not derogatory because they are saying it about other people it is not other people calling them names

  • Peter - 2011-10-20 12:22

    So if Malema is racist nothing happens to him but if Darren Scott is he loses everything!!!! It is such a shame that such a P@$CK has the potential to destroy our beauitiful country and nobody in the ANC has the balls to da anything about it!!!!!!

  • anthony.swart - 2011-10-20 12:23

    Wonder when Malema gets the chance to utter this rubbish cos it appears that his foot is permanently in his mouth!

  • Sandy - 2011-10-20 12:24

    When is this madness going to stop??!!

  • Castle - 2011-10-20 12:25

    what's wrong with this K...........

  • ruben.maistry - 2011-10-20 12:26

    Malema is not as stupid as many make him out to be.I see this as a compliment to the Indian, as Juju boy knows exactly how much his people can learn from an Indian, that is if they want to learn. Ask Mr Nelson Mandela and others.

      Christopher - 2012-05-07 17:53

      Yes u are right he is not as stupid as we think, he is in fact faaaaaaaaaaaar dumber than we thought.