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Malema will stay - ANCYL

2012-03-05 16:00

Johannesburg - ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema will stay on in his position, even if he is expelled from the ANC, the league has said.

League leaders from all the provinces except the Western Cape, which has also earlier indicated its support for Malema, addressed a press conference in Johannesburg this morning saying they will continue to fight even if the young firebrand’s expulsion is upheld.

They were reporting back from a special league national executive meeting called yesterday to discuss Malema's expulsion as ANC member and youth league president by the ANC's national disciplinary committee last Wednesday for sowing division in the party.

Malema has 14 days to appeal and the league has indicated that he would do so.

League deputy president Ronald Lamola read a statement saying only the league’s structures could remove Malema as president.

“It must never be easy to remove a president of the ANC Youth League, particularly a president who was elected uncontested by the membership of the ANC Youth League,” it read.

Looking confident, but leaving speaking entirely to the leaders around him, Malema sat in the middle of the table next to league treasurer-general Pule Mabe, who, according to a report on SABC yesterday, had a vote of no confidence passed in him by the ANCYL NEC.

However, Mabe read his own statement in which he expressed his commitment to the struggle for economic freedom, as led by Malema.

Mabe, who has been reported as having ambitions to succeed Malema, and who hasn’t been seen sharing public stages with Malema in recent months, said: "Opportunists who are using my name to divide the ANCYL should from now on stop their activities because they do not help in the struggle for economic freedom in our lifetime."

All the leaders from the provinces present, a mix of chairpersons and secretaries, called for a political solution to be achieved by talks between the ANC and its league.

All of them maintained that Malema was charged for making statements on Botswana and the leadership of the African Union on the league’s behalf.

Asked whether the league feared disbandment by its mother body should it continue its defiance, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa said the league was prepared for that.

Lamola denied that the league was defying the ANC by refusing to comply with the ruling that Malema should be removed as league leader should his expulsion be upheld or should he be suspended. "We are fighting for the future of the ANC," he said, adding that the ANC in history often resisted the league's new ideas.

The young leaders also said they would fight for Malema's reinstatement in the ANC's national executive committee as well as in the party's conference in Mangaung in December.

The conference cannot be "manipulated", they said, implying that there was political interference in the disciplinary process.

The atmosphere at the press conference in the Luthuli House foyer, which was packed with journalists, was jovial and relaxed, and leaders even found time to crack a few jokes. Magaqa said Malema's appeal and suspension didn't happen in heaven, meaning there was always the possibility of a political solution.

Comments
  • Daz - 2012-03-05 16:07

    Now it's time to expel the entire ANCYL!

      Annelise - 2012-03-05 16:17

      This youth is a league of its own! Time for a good spanking if the kids would not listen. Come ANC, let's see if you have the bolls for this, this is a clear challenge to you from the Youth League!

      Bob - 2012-03-05 16:35

      Daz, well I think they proven now that they are all of the same disruptive nature as their leader, hard to believe they can be so narrow minded.

      Daniel - 2012-03-05 16:42

      I wonder what part of F@CK OFF he does not understand ?

      Anthony - 2012-03-05 16:51

      dont make any mistake ---the anc is facing a VERY BIG PROBLEM-- the youth league has turned into a rabid dog and has now turned on its masters--the only thing you can do with a rabid dog is put it down [shoot it] and while the rest of the world watches the banana republic unfold and fall apart the children fight and play to the DETRIMENT of the nation someone said 'planet of the apes' you are so correct make no mistake the ANC now has a BIG problem with malema

      Trevor - 2012-03-05 16:56

      Survivor SA, Lets count the votes JZ 2 votes Malema 5 votes final member to be voted out Malema the tribe has spoken V.O.E.T.S.E.K maaan

      GeeWizz - 2012-03-05 17:04

      Give Daz a "Bell" If the ANC NEC gives in to this demand then they are powerless and should step down a the ruling party of this country. We the public feel that Juju has created enough discord in the economy as a whole which left various provinces cash strapped due to him and his cronies getting all the government tenders illegally. They finish benefit from all there wrong doings and now its is time for the ANC NEC to take a firm stand against them because they have lavishly spent R3M in parties and buying of votes to fight for him (Juju) That is our money that they are using as a power tool to get him to stay in the YL. Get rid of him and his cronies once and for all.

      David - 2012-03-05 19:47

      according to the ANCYL website. The first paragraph it says "The ANCYL is governed and adheres to the policies and programmes of the ANC ans it's existance derives from the constitution of the ANC. Unless the ANCYL smoked some good sh*t on the way to the press conference that means what it says. I think the ANC should just fired the lot.

      Sean - 2012-03-05 20:30

      Ger rid of all the imbeciles !!!!

      Ray - 2012-03-06 08:51

      Yes,all the ANC has to do is cut off the funding it provides.

      Moss - 2012-03-06 12:44

      there are 4 types of people who are anti Malema 1. white greedy people who feel threatened by the idea of economic transformation 2. black people who think being anti Malema makes them look smart because the media said he is stupid, you ask them why they ha.te him and you'll never get an answer 3. Stupid people who only rely on the media and blindly support Zuma mostly because he is inzule 4. stupid people who don't know anything about politics

      Greg - 2012-03-06 13:09

      @Putin the "Alphadog"....Actually - there are seven types who don't support Malema - #5 - People who can think for themselves (regardless of skin colour) - #6 - People who dislike thuggery and corruption - #7 - People who would like Malema to explain where the money came from to fund (1) his house (2) his car (3) his watch (4) his travels (5) his hotel expenses (6) his expensive personal tastes (7) his security guards and so on....Maybe you can tell us Putin.....or is that Rasputin???

      Youefoh - 2012-03-06 14:53

      bleh.

      RichyDigitized - 2012-03-06 16:32

      Those greedy white people you're talking about Putin, are the same greedy white people who have been giving you black people jobs for decades!

  • ben.nel2 - 2012-03-05 16:10

    Doesn't the first 3 letters say "ANC"?

      Francois - 2012-03-05 16:29

      The irony of the whole thing is the following sentence of Mabe: "Opportunists who are using my name to divide the ANCYL should from now on stop their activities because they do not help in the struggle for economic freedom in our lifetime." It is the very nature of oppotunists to seize opportunities, the same way in which the same said Malema did. I think also Mabe or Malema must tell us exactly what they mean by "economic freedom". In five years the countries first born frees will graduate, if Mbekkie did not fire the good teacher's and let SADTU ruin these kids lifes (ie blame Mbekkie), then they should have the very same economic freedom as everyone else disregarding the pigmentation of their epidermus. Thus 5 years (actually a bit less) and counting....tick tock tick tock.

      Jeeves - 2012-03-05 16:48

      Indeed. It is kind of strange isn't it. Hopefully the youth pastor runs away with the flock and starts his own church.

      Kevin - 2012-03-05 17:16

      Absolutely, I was wondering if I'd missed a trick somewhere!! How does he get expelled from the ANC and yet remain on as president of the ANC [YL]. It seems as if he is once again giving the "mother body" the finger!!

  • dewald.galjaard - 2012-03-05 16:10

    youth of today.... *sigh*

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-05 16:30

      Ain't that the truth.

      Piet - 2012-03-05 16:41

      Don't compare this trash with normal youth.

      marina.poniatowska - 2012-03-05 23:20

      If you are still a "youth" at 31, you are doing something wrong. Add all the struggling and it must be a circus!

      Gail - 2012-03-06 15:01

      Malema stopped being "youth" 10 years ago. He's now heading towards middle age- potbelly and all :-D

  • Bardy - 2012-03-05 16:11

    What will it take to shut this man up??? He is like a parasite!

      Chris - 2012-03-05 16:40

      We'll see if he can tweet from jail.

      Juan - 2012-03-05 16:56

      @leonard you will need to use an elephant rifle, he's got a very thick scull

      Poloyatonki - 2012-03-05 17:07

      Bardy.. Malema has been given a platform to appeal by the ANC so why do you have a problem if he uses that opportunity?

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-05 17:36

      @Bardy, sunglasses. Just give Malema sunglasses at a press conference and he will shut up.

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-05 18:05

      @polanti - its because this is just one appeal. there will be another appeal and then the final appeal at manuang. This mean a whole year of putting up with him. He is like syphylis - the rash is gone but its always there.

  • Andres - 2012-03-05 16:15

    I'm so tired of this narcissist. Can't he get a job as a bring-loving rapper or something? Bling, loud-mouthed, self-loving, feeds off attention of any kind, has bursts of incoherent anger. He's perfect as a member of "Young Money" or "Kanye's clan."

      Chris - 2012-03-05 16:30

      true that Andres

  • Kala - 2012-03-05 16:15

    These guys have got to be the best comedy act since Goerge W Bush. The ANCYL should be termed a Parody and not to be taken seriously.

  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-03-05 16:15

    if the anc expels a body of its own party that body is no longer connected or affiliated to that party!! that means that the ANCYL president for malema in hi position is null and void!! how hard is this t comprehend wit these people???

  • Den - 2012-03-05 16:16

    @ bardy, a well placed shot.

      Bardy - 2012-03-05 16:21

      Yeah! I heard that!

      Allen - 2012-03-05 16:45

      The Gospel according to Barrett XM500 long range!

  • elroydb - 2012-03-05 16:17

    Isn't it meant to say Malema will stray.

  • Sizah - 2012-03-05 16:17

    does any1 know F1 calendar 2012..???

      Modipi Ngulube - 2012-03-05 16:21

      Check d F1 site, testin ended yesterday though. I think this year its going to be interesting

      Kevin - 2012-03-05 16:26

      Now you talking

      Kala - 2012-03-05 16:27

      18 March - Australia!!!

      dewald.galjaard - 2012-03-05 16:29

      yea! check appstore for ESPN F1. It's really good :)

      Sizah - 2012-03-05 16:32

      thanx guys - Team McLaren

      Angela - 2012-03-05 16:51

      Hey Ferarri.... am thrilled - not long to go for the first race. Hey now we are on the right track !!

      TedHaller69 - 2012-03-05 16:54

      Sorry Sizah - Vettel to take it again :-)

  • ZwaiGMD - 2012-03-05 16:18

    What a joke! A load of circus bozos!

  • Bryan - 2012-03-05 16:18

    And the media continue to give these morons a pedistal to spew their BS.., I have never heard such horses**t in my life! Agree with Daz... ban the youth league and let these pathetic parasite's get real jobs!!!

  • Paul - 2012-03-05 16:20

    THATS THE MIDDLE FINGER FOR THE RULING PARTY. The apparent lack of respect is not just the top echelon of the ANCYL it is the whole lazy lot.

      mary.kircher - 2012-03-05 23:31

      Yep ! thats egg in their face - does the ANC not fund the ANCYL, and if so, to what extent ? Because any funding on their behalf should be withdrawn immediately.

  • Mashudu - 2012-03-05 16:21

    ANCYL is denial.

  • Herman - 2012-03-05 16:22

    Newspapers thought they were clever enough to manipulate and divide the youth leaque. They failed dismally. I am proud of the leadership of the youth l. Thank you.

      Piet - 2012-03-05 16:26

      Nope, I tend to disagree the cracks is only going to open up now

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-05 16:32

      Herman? Isn't that a name for some disease?

      Thandi - 2012-03-05 16:33

      Doesn't take much to please some people does it.

      Francois - 2012-03-05 16:33

      Herman, good point! The Newspapers have only one agenda and it is purely capitalistic: To make as much money by selling as many as possible papers! Whether the Malema circus is divided or not, he is the darling of the press, because he sells newspapers like hot cake or petrol bombs at his granny's house. If the ANCYL is so weak that newspaper can divide them AND sell more papers, let the media go for it, it is actually what you do when you have "Economic Freedom". Otherway round, your argument is irrelevant or if you were a supported of the IFP: Irrelephant.

  • Piet - 2012-03-05 16:24

    Well if you do not like the decision from thee AAAAAANNNNNNNNNNCCCCCCC then start your own party! Clearly you tend to disagree totally with what your parent party is standing for. Time to resign and start on your own! But you will not have the balls for that now will you!

      dewald.galjaard - 2012-03-05 16:30

      yea i like that idea too! break away from the ANC.

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-03-05 17:02

      It requires hard work. They operate through other people's sweat.

      Abram - 2012-03-06 09:50

      you are stupid this people are Anc members no one wants to form his own party,Zuma and Mantashe must retire,and then we will solve the people like u

  • Kevin - 2012-03-05 16:25

    ancyl= useless then and useless now. Please do not waste taxpayers money on a useless organization like the ancyl who have never ever done anything productive that justifies there existence.

  • zaakiro - 2012-03-05 16:27

    Two options, expel the league or expel the ANC !! Booom!! Hate ME

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-05 16:32

      Only because you use the phrase "Boom".

      Abram - 2012-03-06 09:54

      Anc will rule until Jesus comes back,Pink man will never sit on that chair finish en klaar

      nchukana - 2012-03-06 12:34

      In your dreams

  • Singatha - 2012-03-05 16:28

    HUH???How is it possible he stays on though expelled,or does the tenderprenuer cabal of the Yoof league think they are the ANCYL???? They get dumber & dumb,wonder what their collective I.Q. is?

      nchukana - 2012-03-06 12:33

      I doubt yours Singatha

  • djmain1 - 2012-03-05 16:29

    Just stop their funding - that'll f**k 'em!

      Sean - 2012-03-05 21:31

      @Matlose !! How would fatboy improve your life ? Keep on dreaming !!

  • Thandi - 2012-03-05 16:30

    The youth are generally considered to be the future of a country. If the ANCYL are anything to go by, and their sheeplike support of fatboy is indicative of SA's youth, then we have a clear picture of where this country is heading. Thank goodness the Rand is relatively strong at the moment, because transfers out are the order of the day.

      Morne - 2012-03-05 16:46

      And the problem is that the world sees this! Goodbye investors - goodbye job creation! And watch the Rand drop because of this!

      Vic - 2012-03-05 16:58

      Well said Thandi

      flysouth - 2012-03-06 16:05

      Yes - it is said, often in a very glib and facile way, that the youth are 'the future of our country'. Personally I believe a more accurate statement is that the youth are merely 'our replacements'!

  • Morne - 2012-03-05 16:33

    Its time for the ANCYL to be desolved and a new league to be instated, with competant leaders.

      Anthony - 2012-03-05 17:05

      you are so correct --but it is not that easy --the anc have a BIG problem they would like to close them down buy it would be politically dangerous to do this believe me the anc [through their long drawn out process ] now have a BIG problem --and it wont go away --this is starting to hurt them and they dont know what to do --this has all the potential to split the anc into two-- just 18 years on, the big fight is starting as to who controls the money watch this space, things will hot up now --the fun has started I have no sympathy for the anc --they brought this on themselves just proves what many said back in 1994

      gbbfg - 2012-03-06 09:02

      Do we need them? What good have they ever done? I see no point to even having a youth league. If it does exist, it should be to educate, and that's fine. No youth league should have even nearly this much clout. They should not speak publically at all. They are not a political party. If they tone it down and become learners rather than deluded, scaremongering terrorists, then that's fine. This current embarassment to our country must be dealt with.

      nchukana - 2012-03-06 12:39

      Who are you, keep your long nose out of the league matters because you are not a member or take membership instead of making irresponsible statements. You guys you always complain about everything, blacks, crime just accept that you have no power and join the wagon of positive contribution instead of complaining like brats.

      gbbfg - 2012-03-06 14:36

      nchukana, I am a South African. That means that I pay for the ANC and ANCYL to exist. Which means I get to have whatever opinion I want. It's called democracy. The ANC is a political party, not some club like you people seem to think it is. How dare you suggest that my statements are irresponsible when the ANCYL behaves in the most irresponsible manner imaginable? Using MY money. This is not your club. It is our government and I don't need to keep my nose out of anything. The very foundation of your argument has no place in a democracy. WHY DON'T YOU SEE THIS? Then you suggest that I "join the wagon of positive contribution". This is where I actually start to see red. I AM on it already you chop. I'm not the one lying to the people of SA, spreading fear, dividing races and wasting all our money. The sheer hypocracy of your comment is beyond belief.

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-03-05 16:34

    It's like telling your parents stuff you. But in our case when we did that we got a klap.. and then didn't do it.

  • Dhavandran - 2012-03-05 16:39

    of course his election was uncontested becos someone had the intelligence to step down for fear of his life.lets can malema and ignore him and the ancyl. no more press and media coverage , he would soon fade away.lets continue with exposing the rot and corruption of the anc and create more awareness before the next election so that the public can make an informed choice of who to vote for.the anc's non service delivery and corruption must me mentioned every day but not one word or exposure of malema and we will succeed in creating the awareness of the public at large about the inefficiency of the anc.better be quick because they have the constitution in their sights and we can only guess whats next--zimbabwe here we come.

  • Archie - 2012-03-05 16:39

    Time to start your own party,of course you need money and backing to do that.So the little people will rather howl like the hyaenas that they are.ANC switch off the lights and money supply the idiots will soon learn ,Baby its cold outside!

      Anthony - 2012-03-05 17:08

      archie--tokyo will step in and fund them

  • Hendrik - 2012-03-05 16:44

    I really don't "get it". If the board of directors or a large organisation terminates the services of the MD. Surely he can and does not still pitch up at work each day and sit in his office at his desk as before? But then I suppose that is what takes place in the REAL world, not in the fantasy world of the naughty kids. EXPELLED does not seem to be understood by them at all. How can you in your wildest dreams imagine that you can continue to 'lead' something that you are not even a member of any more? Or do the 'rules' of the ANCYL permit just any one to be their leader? I suspect they not only don't understand how the ANC works, I think they also don't understand how their own organisation works. I am sure if they read the fine print they will find one first has to be a member of the parent body, then of the kindrgarden and then you can hold a 'position' in the kindergarden? Then again maybe not.

      Khanyi - 2012-03-05 17:08

      Hendrik, what you need to understand (which I think you do, qha uyageza) is that there's an apeal window of 14 days, wait until then - we are still on day 5. And this is not a company, it's a voluntary political party, leaders are elected, not appointed.

      Anthony - 2012-03-05 17:10

      hendrik you are perfectly correct --but dont forget this is africa --if you know what i mean

      nchukana - 2012-03-06 16:10

      Hendrick what you are saying has no basis. Here are the fact Malema remains the member of the ANC pending the final appeal. He remains the president of the League. Why single out Malema because the League is clear that he was representing it. You guys really fear Malema. You know during apartheid you will be hated as a black by whites even if you never seen a person before and uttered no word to him. This is the same attitude you have guys to Malema. One word you hear about malema you hadly listen to facts the hate speech follows. The truth he reflect the views of the poor he might not be appealing to you.

  • luyolo.mgodi - 2012-03-05 16:44

    I swear, There is something that this Julius dude has promised these guys if they support him!! What a bunch of dumb fu*ks!!

      nchukana - 2012-03-06 17:15

      Luyolo the dumbest this is to hate someone with a passion without knowing your facts. You are not liking Julius because you follow your masters not because you have your independent view of him. Being a populist is the most stupid thing a person can do. Think straight don't expose your small brain.

  • Vegi - 2012-03-05 16:45

    This is good news.

      Piet - 2012-03-05 17:09

      It is indeed good news Vegi...if you cannot do forward thinking.

      gbbfg - 2012-03-06 09:06

      Vegi I honestly believe that if presented with a bucket, you'd try to convince us it's a spade. And you would truly believe it is a spade. Have you ever stepped back and looked at this situation without your blind hatred? What you see is not what's there. I can assure you.

  • Comrade - 2012-03-05 16:47

    H A HA AH AHA HA AHA hahahahahah GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!!! HAhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

  • Comrade - 2012-03-05 16:48

    H A HA AH AHA HA AHA hahahahahah GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!!! HAhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

  • Johnathon - 2012-03-05 16:49

    The ANCYL could not have adopted a better attitude right now. They have openly declared themselves to be much more powerful than the ruling ANC Party, in that they can totally ignore it, and go ahead with what course of action they themselves, have decided upon. I hope now that the ANC become so enraged with these nursery school antics, that they do completely disband these idiots, for challenging the might of the ANC in a public forum. This certainly kisses goodbye any hope that Julius had of having his expulsion reversed. If Zuma and the ANC do not deal very firmly with these juvenile upstarts, it could well become the laughing stock of the world. To show Julius’s arrogance, his granny was threatened by a group of hooligans, and he called for an official apology from Government. Surely he realises that Government is too busy running the country to genuinely worry terribly about his Granny.

      Tasmee - 2012-03-05 19:56

      I dont know about the government being too busy running the country part though. Agree with the rest.

      Cynthia - 2012-03-06 09:32

      Very well said. Hope someone shows "Thinkertank"'s post to the REALLY big boys at the top.

  • Traygon - 2012-03-05 16:50

    ANCYL is making the ANC look like a chump! AND now the ANC want to change the constitution - cant even take their balls away from the YL.

  • Thamsanqa D't Mahlangu - 2012-03-05 16:50

    Viva Juju viva!!!

      Dave Prinsloo - 2012-03-05 17:01

      hahahahahaha. Zwelenzima's surname is VAVI, not viva, stoopid idiot

      Matlose - 2012-03-05 17:16

      Juju for life. People should just accept that.

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-05 18:12

      Viva Hendrik Verwoed Viva. You were the only true president of this country.

      Desmond - 2012-03-05 18:25

      @ Malose-Life in prison for corruption yes.

      Sean - 2012-03-05 20:32

      @Thamsanqa D't Mahlangu- LOL !!

  • Morne - 2012-03-05 16:51

    When is it the ANCYL universary? I want to send them a bakkie full of peanuts!

  • Windlass - 2012-03-05 16:54

    The world must surely be laughing at our politics at the moment.

      Anthony - 2012-03-05 17:14

      yes they are --I just got back from europe-- you cant believe what they think of us now and how they laugh at sa-- gone are mandelas rainbow nation days

      nchukana - 2012-03-06 16:15

      Who is the world Australia, Britain and America? What good do they offer us anyway except ripping us off? Think straight or go and join the world

  • Vic - 2012-03-05 16:54

    What a bunch of thick illiterate idiots in ANCYL! Can't they get it into their thick skulls that Malema has been booted out of the ANC because they don't want him.Disband ANCYL because they are more trouble than they are worth. We're all sick and tired of this debacle. Maybe a media blackout is the way to go.

      Anthony - 2012-03-05 17:15

      vic this is africa if u know what i mean

  • Betsy - 2012-03-05 16:54

    Very obedient and an excellent example to the young people of SA! Guess their constitution is the L&TU version (Laugh and Tear Up!)

  • LekkePerd - 2012-03-05 16:56

    How can a few "youth" leaders decide what Major People decided for months and days behind closed doors are now unacceptable? Who payed for all the hearings and who the Fu$k are "they" to make decicions? Malema must go! Our country have much better leaders than him, Give them a chance to prove themself

      mushumi - 2012-03-06 16:55

      What major people are you talking about?

  • Dave Prinsloo - 2012-03-05 16:57

    time to disband the ANC and the ANCYL and Afriforum

      Matlose - 2012-03-05 17:23

      I guess u made a mistake, you wanted to say disband Afriforum.

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-05 18:13

      just a matter of time matlose... just a matter of time

  • Tanie - 2012-03-05 17:01

    I AM CALLING FOR ZILLE TO GIVE MAMPHELE RAMPHELE UMSHINI WAKHE SO THAT WE SHOOT THE ANC AND ITS YOBO LEAGUE.KHAULETHE....

  • Matlose - 2012-03-05 17:05

    Viva ancyl viva, viva Malema viva, viva my president. Expropriation without compensation, nationalization of mines, banks etc. is the way to go. We can not afford to fail Mandela Nelson. We cannot afford to disappoint Winnie Mandela. No ways. Alttu Continua. Malema for life

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-03-05 17:16

      You let me think of a dog that is chasing a car and when car stop you thought you caught it, but it, eventually, runs out of fuel. Useless to all. What you going to do?. Chew, like some dogs, on the soft parts? Spoiling it until nothing is left and than? Is trolling nice?

      mbossenger - 2012-03-05 18:00

      Expropriation without compensation - besides being unconstitutional, how will this help anybody? Let's say you expropriate farm land. So now the person running the farm is in all likelihood less experinced in farming than the person the land was takrn from; hence the production from the land decreases, ultimately leading to price increases. Nationalization of mines, banks etc. is the way to go. First point - if the government wants to nationalise mines and banks, they will need to buy a majority share in these vehicles. Where does that money come from? Only way I can think they would raise the money is via taxes. Secondly - if the government run the mines, etc how, in practical terms, will the money be filtered down to the poor who are ultimately supposed to benefit from nationalisation? Seems to me they can either actually hand out money or use the money in schemes to benefit the poor; but with our current levels of corruption do you really think the money will actually arrive where it's supposed to?

      LekkePerd - 2012-03-05 18:06

      He might be drunk, You are Dumb Drunk you get sober, Dumb there are now medicine for

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-05 18:18

      @mbossenger - dont try and explain it. There are none so blind as those who do not see. Hundreds of people tried to explain it to matlose and his pose (vegi-table monorama etc) They cannot accept or understand simple logic. dont waste your typing. This is africa and is doomed to fail as history prooves. They even consult dead uncles who were part of the failure up north. One failure leading another failure.

      mbossenger - 2012-03-05 18:26

      barabus2012 - but I want people to think this through just a little bit and see that these policies won't work. People seem to repeate these like some kind of mantra, but have no idea what they're actually asking for.

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-05 19:13

      @mbossenger - I admire your tenacity. Please go right ahead. I felt the same as you did when i first started commenting on N24. But alas, their simple understanding of how the world works seems to elude them. No matter how much you explain, it seems the cry louder for zimbabwe type tendencies. The cannot see the smoke from the fire.

      Mike - 2012-03-06 11:06

      Yes, life imprisonment

  • derrik - 2012-03-05 17:06

    well the entire youth league nec does not think, like their president,at no stage that their president has demonstrated that he can think logical,we must not fool ourselves by thinking that this youth are the future leaders,malima is fighting for an upper hand on tenders in limpopo and nothing else.malima shuold blame himself and his ego and nobody else,our youth think they rule the entire anc because they control and manipulate limpopo.

      Matlose - 2012-03-05 17:09

      You are drunk

      Poloyatonki - 2012-03-05 17:37

      Go and learn how to spell Malema, you fool.

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-05 18:20

      and you two are just plain old beggars screaming for handouts because you cannot see or achieve anything useful. Just look north, Africa is full of your kind

      Sean - 2012-03-05 21:35

      @Poloyatonki - Derrik has a brain , you don`t !

      123sdp - 2012-03-07 13:35

      @Derrik don't you mean Mal-emmer??? heheh mmpah!

  • Sinudeity - 2012-03-05 17:08

    Hier kom n ding!

      Balan - 2012-03-06 15:39

      @ poloyatonki you sillydonkey don't you know that Malema Malima Silima

  • stalin.rudolf - 2012-03-05 17:10

    simple solution, "tshisa mpama, basopa mampara" oops the constitution does not allow for spanking no more.

  • Rowan Cranston - 2012-03-05 17:11

    Malemas expulsion from ancyl is like a fart from his own ass. Nothing but a cloud to hide in until the sh$t settles. And then poof, he's back!!

  • schewitz - 2012-03-05 17:14

    The ANCYL are making a mockery of the ANC. all there is to say is 'youth of today are a bunch of hooligans' I think the ANC need to look in the mirror and ask themselves, "we cannot control our own youth league can we really control and entire country" The answer is self evident.......We need the DA and intelligent persons like lindiwe mazibuko to lead South africa

  • Obakeng Molobi - 2012-03-05 17:19

    This is a bloody joke....

  • martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-03-05 17:25

    So the entire youth league is now disrespecting it's parent body. Let's clear it up for those who hold office in the ANCYL shall we. ANCYL stands for African National Congrss Youth League, which, by definition, makes it a subsidiary of the ANC which is the parent body. If one gets expelled from the parent body, you can no longer represent one of it's subsidiaries. Simple really. Therefore, the ANC parent body should now be cracking the whip on the rest of the so-called youth "leaders" and censuring them for breaching the ANC constitutional processes. Maybe Malema should just break away and form his own party, but the problem with that is he will find out just how many supporters he really has. It's easy to support someone from within, but when you leave it is not that esy to take those supporters with you!

  • Mary - 2012-03-05 17:26

    'young firebrand'? Is that the best the reporter could come up with? I can think of at least a dozen more apt descriptions of the person in question.

  • Jaun - 2012-03-05 17:32

    Like Trevor Noah said in his comedy session... This time I'm leaving Mary... I'm going... I'm really leaving to Australia :)

      Mikkel - 2012-03-06 00:00

      Same bro , just finishing my studies then I'm heading to Europe :))