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Mantashe warns of anarchy

2012-09-14 19:04

Pretoria - ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe on Friday warned of anarchy if incitement to violence was tolerated.

"We cannot allow lawlessness to roll over the country and think it should be rewarded and therefore begin a norm in society," he told reporters in Pretoria.

"Our appeal we are making to the state - people must exercise their rights but violence should not be an option when exercising those rights."

Mantashe was briefing reporters at the St George's hotel, in Pretoria, before the start of the African National Congress' national executive committee meeting.

Mantashe said the NEC would focus on a number of issues including the situation at platinum mines.

"We are paying attention to the Marikana situation and its ramifications," he said.

"We are not trying to cover what would be covered by the Commission of Inquiry. We are looking into the political economy of the development and the long-term impacts on society in general."

Mantashe added that it was not the business of the NEC to deal with incitement but that of the state.

Incitement is a criminal offence and it is written as such in the Constitution, he added.

"Tolerance to incitement and agitation is something that can lead to anarchy," he said.

"Once anarchy rules society, that society degenerates, and that society collapses in the long run."

Mantashe said the NEC would also discuss issues around the centenary celebrations of the ANC.

He said the meeting would discuss whether the celebrations helped society understand the history of the ANC, and the party itself.

"We are looking into the preparations for the national conference in December," he added.

Mantashe said there would be at least two special NEC meetings in the run-up to the Mangaung elective conference, to ensure a "smooth national conference".

President Jacob Zuma, National Assembly Speaker Max Sisulu, ministers Trevor Manuel, Lindiwe Sisulu, Fikile Mbalula, Susan Shabango, Jeff Radebe, Nathi Mthethwa and Naledi Pandor were among those seen entering St George's hotel.

At the head of the table were Zuma, Mantashe, deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe, ANC treasurer general Mathews Phosa and deputy secretary general Thandi Modise.

Before the session started, Zuma was seen walking through stalls selling ANC merchandise set up at the hotel.

Talking on his cellphone, the president kept looking at a black ANC shirt, while security stood nearby.

ANC Youth League deputy president Ronald Lamola was seen arriving alone.

The NEC meeting is expected to run until 16 September.

Comments
  • bob.small.7547 - 2012-09-14 19:14

    So why have you had tolerance to incitement and agitation that has been going on for so long without nipping it in the butt long ago?

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-14 19:36

      This is just more of the same - more cute soundbites for the media with zero plan to remedy. Because they can't. They have no idea how because they are now hoisted by their own petard

      johann.oosthuizen.980 - 2012-09-14 19:42

      "Once anarchy rules society, that society degenerates, and that society collapses in the long run". OK

      theo.schoeman.71 - 2012-09-14 19:45

      Mr Mantashe I seriously suggest you and your comrades take the time and go listen to Dr Manning - An African American pastors u-tube video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m8OnHC7dQ&feature=related What we have been witnessing in our beloved country and the rest of Africa is exactly what Dr Manning been saying all along. You might not like what he have to say, but its true.

      tw2066 - 2012-09-14 20:26

      Eish, how dumb can ... forget it I know the answer. The ANC changed the laws to allow this for these freedumbs, now they know why the old laws were in place!! And while this is going on Zuma is playing street hawker selling his Chinese ANC cheap imported shirts. Then you have Mantashe - no oil painting mind you - denouncing violence, forgetting the violent nature of the ANC during their stttrruuuugelll... and their muchesss. KFC and Nandos - just letting you know the sheekens have come home to roost.

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-14 20:28

      Theo he hits that nail straight on the head....

      batsirai.musona - 2012-09-14 21:57

      south africa is democratic republic therefore whenever or whatever you people down there do should be democratic. You must lead by example since you are the most developed country in africa. Share your resources equally and the rich minority should endeavour to uplift the poor majority who were wallowing for centuries under minority oppression. We are watching every development taking place emzansi so bite each other but don't finish one another.

      commentatorr.comm - 2012-09-15 00:04

      theo and henk Is this the truth teller who bluntly say "...Blacks: Seed of Satan .. Obama the son of Satan" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVwUpVwfTl0&feature=relmfu You two and whoever vote you up is stupid or insane .

      ian.pollock.313 - 2012-09-15 16:15

      Because the anc is scared silly about loosing votes - remember they are in for the looooong haul

      ian.pollock.313 - 2012-09-15 16:17

      because the anc is in for the looong haul - they do not want to loose votes

      anita.newman.96 - 2012-09-16 17:21

      @Theo.schoeman.71 Give yourself an upper cut. ARE YOU SERIOUS!!???!!!?? A cursory Google search of Dr. Manning throws up hits like "God is sick of Black People" Boet, please do humanity a favour and disappear. I know people are gatvol but to proliferate such ideas is disgusting.

  • clive.priestman - 2012-09-14 19:15

    We already have anarchy. Please put your plan to stop it into action immediately.

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-14 19:22

      It's only anarchy now that it significantly affects the revenue of the country. When it only affected mere citizens, it was "people exuberantly expressing their democratic rights".

      tw2066 - 2012-09-14 20:29

      lacrimosewolf - you said it better than I could ever have put it. Agreed 100%!!

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-09-14 19:16

    Anarchy - the first initial of the Anarchy Nepotism Corruption.

  • juan.prinsloo.750 - 2012-09-14 19:22

    Well it's time then to grow a pair Mr Mantahse, and especially the president.

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-09-14 19:25

    You have actually spoken sense,for which I congatulate you! Now please turn your words into action! Lead by example,as you might be the only one who actually has a pair!

  • ernest.lwandle - 2012-09-14 19:27

    wait aminute jz was talking on his cellphone kept looking at ablack shirt, while security stood nearby

  • robert.dood.1 - 2012-09-14 19:35

    Mr Mantashe your hierarchy is a good example of lawlessness with al the corruption within your organization

  • Andre - 2012-09-14 19:35

    It took the government a long time to realize that anarchy is already at hand. It must only have registered now. The citizens of the country have known for years!

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-09-14 19:44

    so its only anarchy if it threatens the big business interests of the black elite as opposed to, say, municipal strikers rampaging through town and destroying the small business interests of the plebs. guess we now know were your interests lie, eh gwede?

  • themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-14 20:21

    Once anarchy [read: “the mob that usurped Parliament`s powers and forcefully removed the President from his Office in POLOKWANE, Dec 2007”] rules society, that society degenerates, and that society collapses in the long run.\ Remove the head arnachist: Zuma as a start when the ANC mob gathers in the Free State in Dec.

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-14 20:24

      And then we will vote for the ANC again! Makes a lot of sense....

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-14 20:41

      I hope by “we” you are speaking for yourself, your wife and kids as the head of their family

  • Tim Elliott - 2012-09-14 20:22

    Question for Mantashe...do you understand what you say?If you do you are oin your own...the rest of this nation doesn't because it is crap and makes no sense.Gulp...we really are in trouble!

  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-14 20:22

    Ja ne Gwede, lets go back 25 years. What did you preach then to the people?

  • edward.sithagu - 2012-09-14 20:25

    I guess looting of state resources and corruption at the highest level is not indicative of an anarchist government?how many billions lost to corruption since 1994 your "highness"Gwede?

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-14 20:49

      Ah but you already know what HR Gwede will respond "It is irrelevant" and "we don't have to explain ourselves". Because anything that does not further the now very mysterious Cause is really not fit for human consumption

      SA_Spinner - 2012-09-15 12:33

      I read it's about R600 billion since 1994

      SA_Spinner - 2012-09-15 19:05

      I read it's about R600 billion since 1994

  • Vince.York - 2012-09-14 20:45

    These elitist ANC piglets made it quite fine to turn SA society upside down to get their turn at the coffer trough as they 'transformed it all into a violent blackened animal farm' and used mass hysteria to get their way, but now that they have preetrated far worse crimes against humanity in each and every BEE unethical inflated deal and trender contract that will impoverish those very same people that they used, they now cry foul and threaten them?????? YOU ARE THE ONES THAT DEMANDED VIOLENT STRUGGLE and you are now going to experience it, for having devastated our nation so fast without any consideration towards our youth and good futures of QUALITY instead of mindless tribal quantity. There are many millions of frustrated youth, but less than 1 million ANC members who will soon very fast burn there membership cards as they FLEE the country to old Mugzy's Zim Heaven

  • marietjie.vanderberg - 2012-09-14 20:46

    Go Juju. Split the ANC for us. VIVA DA!

  • long.tom.509 - 2012-09-14 20:53

    Knee jerk reaction to the current situation,do they they have the book "politics for dummies"?

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-14 22:16

      They wrote the book "politics for dummies"

  • dennie.dupreez - 2012-09-14 21:01

    At last the penny has dropped for Mantashe too. Now we must change the investor hostile labour laws and get the workers to become productive. I sincerely hope the penny will drop for Vavi, Cosatu and the other unions too. Are you listening mr Patrick Craven?

  • sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-09-14 21:59

    We cannot allow lawlessness to roll over the country and think it should be rewarded and therefore begin a norm in society," He is describing the whole government!!! What's wrong, Gwede, don't you like the competition?

      commentatorr.comm - 2012-09-15 00:10

      Lol... the best perspective.. :) the competition is fierce.

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-09-15 04:11

    Lame ANC..arrest Malema if you have the balls,!! It should have happened long ago !!

  • henk63 - 2012-09-15 08:34

    You, the ANC gave birth to this violent striking monster years ago. You yourselves killed moderate people who disagreed with your madman methods. In your quest for "freedom" you led people to believe that killing is the only way to get what you want. You will need the same level of violence that created the beast, to tame the beast. Talk will not help. I pity you ANC, you have nowhere to turn. You will have to dig yourself out this time.

      kinbe.suu - 2012-09-15 09:22

      Mmmm ahh when were you born? 1999 maybe?

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-09-15 08:41

    ANarChy!

  • shaheen.moolla - 2012-09-15 09:49

    Sorry Mantashe but it is you, your organisation and your President that are now responsible for the anarchy and lawlessness. Your President still insists in calling for his machine gun at every opportunity; your President said nothing when that fool Malema threatened to kill (ie murder others) in support of Zuma; your President did not speak out against the conduct of these very "supporters" when they publicly threatened his rape accuser outside the SG High Court; Your President came to power in Polokwane based on vulgarity, rhetoric and threats of violence; your President only sits in the Union Buildings because he violated the rule of law in order to secure the "dropping" of 783 criminal charges. Your President keeps in his Cabinet and the highest echelons of the ANC convicted criminals. The ANC is singularly responsible for this growing and expanding "Marikana" crisis and realises that it simply does not have the intellectual and moral depth to extinguish it.

  • Kalimowakene - 2012-09-15 15:21

    JUJU knows knows whats good for south Africa

  • michael.j.anderson.144 - 2012-09-16 18:27

    www.maikana-truth.com

  • andy.rossell - 2012-09-17 10:32

    ANC in crisis

  • sexyfancyface - 2012-10-17 14:20

    WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO DATE TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS NO VIOLENCE AND SADLY NONE OF THESE STRIKES ARE LEGAL...SO WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR ROLE AND JUST WARNING US OF ANARCHY AND YET AS GOVERNMENT YOU ARE SITTING AND DOING NOTHING IS IRRESPONSIBLE AT LEAST NOW YOU KNOW THAT BEING IN POWER IS NO PAP AND VLEIS....YOU ALSO INCITE VIOLENCE LIKE YOU TOLD FARMERS THAT A MARIKANA TYPE OF INCIDENT WILL HAPPEN IF THEY DON'T TRAIN EMERGING BLACK FARMERS AND WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT TO TRAIN FARMERS? NOT YOURS? YOU PERHAPS ONLY DO WELL IN DEVOURING OUR TAXES AND NOTHING MORE....

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