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Manyi not sorry over ANC birthday party

2012-03-29 22:43

Cape Town - Government spokesperson Jimmy Manyi is "unapologetic" about the number of government employees who attended the ANC's centenary celebrations.

Manyi said in an interview with Sapa on Thursday that the presence of government officials at the event was "not a secret", as they had a role to play in Mangaung.

"We were there unapologetically," he said. "Government had a role to play there. This is not a crime.

"The issue here is that this was a continental event. There were lots of other heads of state. It was not an ANC rally."

Manyi said there was a protocol when heads of state visited South Africa.

Government employees had to ensure that the security and other needs of those heads of state were looked after.

Misleading

"The government has to employ officials to take care of that.

"That we are not hiding."

Manyi said hundreds of government employees travelled to Mangaung in January on official business without going to the event.

He said a question asked by the Democratic Alliance in Parliament on how much the event had cost the taxpayer was "misleading".

"They ask you, were any officials in Mangaung in December and January, you say yes or no and they want relevant details.

"The situation is that in January or any other month government officials are all over the country.

"Some officials were in Mangaung for other business. They came back without attending the centenary."

Simplistic


The DA's question was "simplistic" and aimed at eliciting an answer and creating confusion.

Manyi said it was difficult to calculate how much had been spent on sending officials to the event as many had gone to the city on official business.

He said the DA could interrogate him when the government submitted its annual report to Parliament.

"They can sit there and wait for the annual report and can ask line by line. There is no running away here. They have an opportunity to ask anything and everything they want to."

DA federal chairperson Wilmot James, who asked the question in Parliament, said on Thursday that Manyi was "going to great lengths" to ensure that the amount of public money spent on the ANC’s centenary celebrations in January remained hidden.

Leaked memo

He said a leaked Government and Communication Information System (GCIS) memo, which was in the DA’s possession, offered an insight into Manyi’s "machinations".

The document entitled "Guidelines for replying to written parliamentary questions on official visits to Bloemfontein" was circulated by Manyi to all government communicators on Monday.

It instructed officials to avoid the parliamentary question by "referring the questioning DA MP to annual reports to find the information", and to make the argument that it is "not peculiar to have officials travelling to Bloemfontein, or any part of the country for that matter, for official business".

Communicators also had to defend officials' trips on the basis that "Government is confident that their Mangaung experience will help shape them into public servants that serve their country with humility".

The instruction was followed up by a media statement by Manyi rebutting the DA's question.

Core issue

James responded that Manyi’s arguments were irrelevant to the core issue that government money was used for a party celebration.

On Wednesday, an e-mail was sent to government communicators telling them not to respond using the suggested guidelines "until further notice".

A new set of guidelines was sent on Thursday morning.

According to James, the document stated "the old line" that only officials who "happened" to be in Bloemfontein attended the celebration and that those who did would somehow gain "humility" from the experience was gone.

"The new line is that 'a number of state agencies and departments were mandated to make preparations as part of the courtesies extended to any president/head of state visiting a country'," the document allegedly said.

James said Manyi's "bland and generic responses" were designed to shut down the DA’s very specific request for information.

"These attempts to deflect away from the real issue do not fool us," he said.

"If government can justify spending money on government officials travelling to Mangaung why can’t it tell us how much was spent and who went.

"Is it because the numbers are so large that they will cause a public outcry regardless of the explanation cooked up by Manyi’s spin machine?" he asked.

Comments
  • Morne - 2012-03-29 22:59

    Seems like hidden agendas to me! How the hell can you not know how much was spend on certain factors!? The ANC blows tax money out of perportion!

      Christopher - 2012-03-30 00:32

      Looked after??? thats a laugh...they did not even have sheets and bedding, as some cronie of yours did not pay the hotel bills, so a lot of the heads of states of other countries that you invited left earlier or booked into real hotels that could accomadate them on their own budget...you so sad Manyi!! so sad your mother, I am sure looks on you with sadness...thieves..Imagine your mother knows, you a liar...Kharma Manyi Kharma...njoi the rest of your sad life, including your family...what goes around comes around...NJOI:)

      Oscar - 2012-03-30 07:24

      Hidden agendas is one thing, but if you look closely at the article it is clear that someone is holding the strings of all these ANC public puppets. Who is the puppet master?

      philip.venter1 - 2012-03-30 10:59

      Yea why should they be sorry for spending tax money on huge birthday parties instead of improving the lives of the millions of citizens who live in poverty and have no education? Seems legit.

      Peter - 2012-04-20 11:35

      "Some officials were in Mangaung for other business. They came back without attending the centenary." Prove it? You lying sack of snake-sh1t.

  • Mark - 2012-03-29 23:02

    Jimmy,your desert is coming - a just desert.

  • Chris - 2012-03-29 23:13

    This just smacks of the National Party. Broeders only. Colour aside.

      watsongeorgejan - 2012-03-29 23:44

      No difference at all, just two sides of the same coin.

      hein.huyser - 2012-03-30 06:41

      And just as racist

  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-03-29 23:19

    Oh well then I "unapologetically" say that i'm just going to use the highways for free then, stuff the e-tag ^__^

  • Bigsexy.jm - 2012-03-29 23:22

    A million lemmings can't all be wrong- jump off a cliff! The wheel is turning you arrogant little gremlin!

  • Gregory - 2012-03-29 23:28

    Arrogant d!ckhead. Hungry hyena living the high life out of the mouths of the hungry and poor.

  • Thokozane - 2012-03-29 23:35

    I just can't stand the arrogance of Jimmy, at least respect your cash cows.

      Burtfred - 2012-03-30 06:22

      I can't stand the racism of Manyi.

      Nigel - 2012-03-30 07:58

      i can't believe how some defend this complete waste of money meant for service delivery

  • Polotic - 2012-03-29 23:36

    Quite a coincidence. Hundreds of government employees going to Manguang on business just about the time the the ANC celebrations were on! Mr Manyi, please tell us another one! The arrogance of the ANC knows no bounds.

  • watsongeorgejan - 2012-03-29 23:37

    I,m still trying to think when last did i hear this guy(spokesperson my foot) say anything sensible..

  • Jonathan - 2012-03-30 00:02

    Not apologetic about wasting the taxpayers money? No sir/madam, they are way too arrogant for that.

  • wehan.victor - 2012-03-30 00:42

    These guys think they are bigger than South Africa...pathetic

  • ivan.ferreira - 2012-03-30 00:59

    anc scum

  • Christopher - 2012-03-30 01:05

    Some officials were in Mangaung for other business. They came back without attending the centenary."So what business were so many doing there at that particular time?

  • Jayson - 2012-03-30 01:11

    I suppose this is why they are introducing the e-toll system. To cover the costs of these party's. I mean,, someone has to pick up the tab. Unfortunately That's us. And the sad thing is. We weren't even invited.

      Kent - 2012-03-30 11:15

      @ Jayson. We were not invited but they did drink on our behalf. I only forgot to salute or take a picture while this was happening

  • jody.beggs - 2012-03-30 04:40

    Damn the man.

      Ben - 2012-03-30 05:03

      And all those with him.

  • Dennis - 2012-03-30 05:35

    An ANC member apologise ...... ja when hell freezes over !!!

  • Gregory - 2012-03-30 06:01

    How about thanking the tax payer for their contribution , instead of gloating in self glorified arrogance .

  • Msika - 2012-03-30 06:06

    Thats what you get when a country is governed by party that alwaz gets two third majority votes. Until we have another party thay will convincingly challenge the ruling party, unfortunately this is the kind of treatment we will endour.

      Den - 2012-03-30 11:42

      exactlly. pity more people dont see that.

  • Carry - 2012-03-30 06:19

    THIEVES DO NOT HAVE CONSCIENCES - THAT IS WHY THEY KEEP STEALING. WITHOUT A CONSCIENCE YOU KNOW NO RIGHT FROM WRONG - SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN TO APOLOGISE manyi. BUT, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY - THE WHOLE SHEBANG OF THE ANC GOVERNMENT. THE SHEEP WHO SO BLINDLY FOLLOW WILL EVENTUALLY START ASKING WHERE THERE HARD EARNED MONIES KEEP DISAPPEARING .......... BUT THEN APOLOGIES WILL BE TOO LATE. WE HAVE TO ALL PRAY THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN SOONER THAN LATER. AS FOR ME .............. I HAVE PAID MY TAXES AND THEREFORE HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THE HIGHWAYS OF GAUTENG - WITHOUT AN E-TAG. I HAVE TO GO TO WORK EVERYDAY TO EARN MORE TAX MONIES FOR zooma AND HIS GANG.

      Malusi - 2012-03-30 07:37

      Go home,what do u normal do if u feel that your next door behave strange? A clever person normally leaves

      Felix - 2012-03-30 07:52

      @Malusi, or call the police. Oh wait they belong to the anc too.

  • Tsietsi - 2012-03-30 06:21

    People like Manyi and their ilk are here to stay, unless we change the electoral system. How do u explain such arrogance from someone who is supposed to put the wishes of the people before his own and that of his party?

  • Jean - 2012-03-30 06:33

    Manyi... I actually hate him more than Julius!!

      hein.huyser - 2012-03-30 06:47

      he is just the voice of a deploring bunch of institutionalosed robbers, as for M, well, he is a robber. Difvficult to choose...

      malcolm.molver - 2012-03-30 07:56

      Malusi kindly go and fck off you racist retard!

      malcolm.molver - 2012-03-30 08:09

      Malusi, you say whites have hatred running through their genes. Hypocritical much? You stupid racist filth, p!ss off to Zimbabwe. SA doesn't need racist idiots like you!

  • hein.huyser - 2012-03-30 06:40

    Just like the real important issues the cANCer will lie to its voters. Educate, educate, educate. that is the only way we will stop this bunch of hayenas

  • Hermann - 2012-03-30 06:50

    Oh yes, the moon is made of cheese.

      bluzulu - 2012-03-30 07:17

      Moon is cheese, Didn't get that fact whilst reading Mr. Armstrong's book.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-30 07:02

    Come, comerades ! Let us live it up! Bring on those blue light convoys! Book in at the best hotels ! Eat and drink to your heart's content! There are millions of Rand to be spent! Show the poor, jobless shack-dwelling people that we celebrate their freedom! Show the taxpayer that we appreciate the money! Let them all taste the champagne through our lips! Nothing is too grand or too expensive for us ! Let us serve our country with humility!

      Jayson - 2012-03-30 07:12

      Very well put sir. Couldn't agree more.

  • pws69 - 2012-03-30 07:16

    How dare the DA question how much TAXPAYERS money the ANC steals. The ANC did not join the struggle to be poor, and as far as they are concerned all TAXPAYERS money is ANC money, to be used as they see fit.

      Shaun Robinson - 2012-03-30 07:25

      pws69 - Oh really? You such a closed minded idiot. What about those people living on mine dumps eating rubbish, do they not deserve freedom too, were they also not part of the struggle, could they not use that money better??? It's closed minded FOOLS like you that keep the corrupt anc in power!!!

      Mark - 2012-03-30 07:33

      @ Shaun......Irony alert...re read the post of pws69...think tongue is firmly planted in cheek.

      pws69 - 2012-03-30 07:58

      @Shaun, LOL. I see observer picked it up, and you missed it. Perhaps I was being a little to subtle. I'm actually a DA member!

      Felix - 2012-03-30 07:59

      @Observer - I believe sarcasm is the word, not irony ;) @Luvo & Marumstupid turning a debate about government into a race dispute? How was you centenary party? How's Jimmy doing?

      malcolm.molver - 2012-03-30 08:01

      Luvo you little racist idiot. Us whites were born here, we are not going anywhere! So take that and stick it where the sun doesn't shine you flipping retard. Sorry to say, but blacks are the biggest racists. The comments on here prove that!

      winston.mullany - 2012-03-30 08:18

      Luvo, when I read comments like yours I think, thank goodness I'm white because if I was black like you I would seriously be handicapped!

  • bluzulu - 2012-03-30 07:16

    Jimmy and SOME friends have forgotten their roots.

      Felix - 2012-03-30 08:03

      Go comment on NZ websites.

      Koos - 2012-03-30 10:19

      They lie, steal, cheat, sell BS and all the nice things associated with them. I’d say they know and in fact support “their roots” quite well.

  • Abisali - 2012-03-30 07:25

    Why should he be sorry? It's only the tax coffers they are plundering! No real need to provide services for the sick, the aged and the children now is there? No need to provide housing for the homeless, not so? After all, it is the cANCer, they are the ruling party and it is their right to steal and misuse and plunder after all!! So why should he be sorry again?

  • Rifkar Ramovha - 2012-03-30 07:27

    Such a stupid man!nxa

  • Mark - 2012-03-30 07:35

    Time to exile this waste of skin and oxygen thief. To think that Madiba spent 27 years in prison so this clown can spout off like this......what an insult to all the old struggle icons...

  • winston.mullany - 2012-03-30 07:37

    Manyi said there was a protocol when heads of state visited South Africa. 'Government employees had to ensure that the security and other needs of those heads of state were looked after.' .....so tell me Manyi, who looks after the citizens of the country because we certainly do not have a respectable government or police force!!! Wasting money where its not needed either!

  • Jeffrey - 2012-03-30 07:46

    "The DA's question was...aimed at eliciting an answer" Really? No Sh*t! I thought that was what question's were for anyway. So then, where's the answer?

  • Marion - 2012-03-30 07:50

    No surprises here. When will people begin to understand that the reason they are still waiting for houses, water, sanitation, education, healthcare is because the ANC repeatedly abuses its position of power? When will they say 'I deserve better than this' and vote accordingly? Hope of change has never filled a hungry belly or sheltered anyone from a storm. Poorest of the poor, stop voting with hope every time they dangle a new presidential candidate in your face. If you don't change your vote the chances are good you will die never having enjoyed anything that has been promised at election time.

      watsongeorgejan - 2012-03-30 08:08

      To quote Cassius in Shakespear's Julius Caesar "poor man! I know he would not be a wolf,but that he sees South Africans are but sheep. He were no lion, were not south africans hinds". But they shouldn't forget as he further states that a strong fire is started with straws..

      Sharon - 2012-03-30 08:36

      Well summed up. And the ANC's electorate will continue to vote for hope rather than change for as long as they perceive it's opposition to be white. So what we need is an even more strongly and strategically diverse opposition.

  • Sharon - 2012-03-30 08:03

    This is the ANC's Economic Freedom Revolution. Don't ya'll know that?

  • Leon - 2012-03-30 08:04

    The ANC loves parties. In that way they convince their illiterate following that they are in control and that they are successful. And the followers accept that and will vote for them again next time. O yes, and by changing street names they are proving that they are indeed "transforming" the country!

  • pws69 - 2012-03-30 08:08

    A little reminder of how the ANC does it. In the 2009 elections, the ANC spent over R600 million of TAXPAYERS mony campaigning. This was made up of over R500 million in once off "social grants" for food parcels, issued just before the elections because of "economic hardship" at the time (we are actually worse off now, so where are the food parcels), distributed by ANC cronies (if memory serves, over R40 million worse rotted away, undistributed in EC, but I stand under correction on the amount). The remainder was made up of "government" rallies, but where the speeched were all about the ANC and the venues were ANC branded. Some of these events cost in excess of R10 million. Once again, ANC cronies got the contracts for sound, stage, food etc. The ANC celebrations are just that, ANC celebrations. NOT South African celebrations. This years ANC celebrations will "officially" cost the TAXPAYER around R400 million. But, if you look at the above examples, and see the deceitful way in which the ANC turns government events into ANC events, then it will more than likely be far more. Then the mullets voting ANC go on service delivery strikes, in some cases less than a month after voting for the very same ANC, and when told there is no money, they grumble, go away, and vote ANC again. Obviously 2+2 in math literacy does not equal 4.

  • Neil - 2012-03-30 08:14

    Why should he be sorry, he is spending our tax money! Damn people we have such a stunning country run by such idiots!!!!!!!

  • Clive - 2012-03-30 08:44

    In other words, we taxpayers, who pay the salaries of these so-called civil servants while they party away, can get knotted. The ANC takes precedence over the state, in the ruling party's opinion.

  • David - 2012-03-30 08:44

    Tax payers,once you're taxed is no longer your money but the state lol

      Clive - 2012-03-30 09:32

      But it's NOT the ANC's money, David. So can I also assume that you enjoy seeing your - oops, sorry, the state's - money wasted? But then you're probably not a taxpayer, so you wouldn't give a damn.

      Loo - 2012-03-30 10:27

      MMMM ... david ,, in following your logic ,,, you definately have the right profile picture ..

      ludlowdj - 2012-03-30 13:09

      Actually you would have served your purpose better by just keeping quiet but seeing as you have spewed a sticky brown substance on this page we must now point out to you that although your statement may hold a little merit in a dingy sordid way, the government is a servant to the people, nothing more, the lowest citizen being higher than the president, in terms of democratic principles the government is 100% liable and answerable to the taxpayer.

  • Johan - 2012-03-30 08:48

    If it was an ANC party why does government [read the people] have to pay for it? Government may be dominated by the ANC but that does not mean that it is one institution. Or is it?

      watsongeorgejan - 2012-03-30 09:52

      You are right. Last time i checked there has to be a line between party and state, but in our country it's obviously blurred...

  • Susan - 2012-03-30 08:52

    WAT N BOKS

  • lisa.evansdominick - 2012-03-30 08:58

    The ANC feels it is their progative to spend tax payers money without being held accountable. As far as they are concerned the ANC is the government and can and will do as they like and no one must dare question them. The sooner the ANC is voted out the better!!!

  • Loo - 2012-03-30 10:24

    Lots of Government depts , provincial and national receive qualified audit reports the whole time. How do we expect them to know how much a party actually cost them when they don't even know how much they spent on salaries and procurement etc. Cmon, its like asking a one year old what time it is. Or in this case . .wow .. an 18 year old child . mmm

  • jim.dickson2 - 2012-03-30 11:16

    Bottom line, They blew a fortune of state funds on a party political centenary party. Now they refuse to put a number to it. Asking Manyi if the sun shines during the day time would also elicit a non-committal or wrong answer.

  • Den - 2012-03-30 11:38

    ofcourse they dont care, they also dont care about there voters. You can just imagine the ugly can of worms that went with all that spending, wonder how many people got rich kwik the anc way through this party.....

  • colin.langley - 2012-04-20 12:07

    If i were a member of the ANC government, and had the tiniest amount of humanitarian integrity or common decency i would have celebrated the 100 years of the ANC by using tax payers money to send 3000 disadvantaged youths a bursary to enroll at a university of their choice..or built a few hospitals, hell maybe even a lot of RDP houses from a contractor that does not have links to the ruling elite. Maybe i would even consider taking that money, investing it and with the interest feed many poor children that go to school everyday. I would build schools and revive the inner city to make it a safe livable place again. But seeing as i am pretending to be an ANC member of government i would rather spend it drinking fine wine, drive posh cars, rip the people of every colour in south africa off to the degree we are now gatvol. Shame on you...you bastards! And to think a majority people still vote ANC is beyond any reason. The blind following the deaf.

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