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Marikana tragedy hijacked - Mantashe

2012-08-26 17:39

Johannesburg - The Lonmin mine tragedy has been hijacked by "counter-revolutionaries" who wish to undermine the tripartite alliance, ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said on Sunday.

"Marikana was taken over and hijacked... and out of it came counter-revolutionaries to undermine our movement."

The question was how the tripartite alliance was going to deal with that, he asked.

Mantashe was speaking at a Young Communist League of SA public lecture held in Katlehong, Ekurhuleni.

Also present were Cosatu president Sdumo Dlamini and SACP deputy chair Thulas Nxesi.

Mantashe said he was general secretary of the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) in 1998 when the union expelled Joseph Mathunjwa because of ill-discipline.

Mathunjwa is now president of the NUM splinter union, Amcu.

"I have been cautious about the Marikana tragedy, but this is the danger I saw come out of that sad incident."

He asked what the in-fighting within the alliance was about.

"Is it about the movement itself, is it a fight over resources or handing over the country to foreign agencies?"

Mantashe said there were some who thought they were "rightful heirs" to the ANC succession.

"The tripartite alliance is going to be around for many years to come."

Comments
  • carl.lotter.3 - 2012-08-26 17:57

    In the Ramaphosa, Kasrils and Mojokweni articles we see talk of accord, turning point, watershed moment and all with reference primarily to the state. Do not put new wine into old wine bags: the new wine will cause the bags to crack and the new wine will be wasted. But new wine into new wine jars Revamp the cabinet and each department. In cabinet we should include a ministry for SMME and close the ministry for Economic development. In departments, throw out all DG’s deputy DG’s and Chief Directors that are not performing at a level of executive as required in the private sector. In the performance contract with each minister and DG there ought to be a requirement that the quality and quantity of Stakeholder Relations, Partnership and Reputational Status be measurable standards of performance. Related should be aspects of creating an “enabling environment”. If this is achieved individually and collectively, it will indicate the effectiveness of government from the highest levels downward. This will give Batho Pele proverbial teeth.

      yvonne.styger.3 - 2012-08-26 18:15

      Hijacked indeed, as the ANC did with Sharpeville

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-08-26 18:16

      Goodness carl that will be the whole Cabinet !

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-08-26 20:12

      Now the hypocrit Mantashe is also hijacking the Marikana tragedy by politicising it.

      godfrey.welman - 2012-08-26 20:48

      Love him or hate him, fat boy has shaken the cANCer to its core. They can't feed their followers the normal stuff (apartheid, white DA, their is no prove, less ingenuiess etc,etc)

      francois.smith.7 - 2012-08-26 21:34

      And Mantashe adds his name to people who exploit the death of 44 of our countrymen.

      alexander721 - 2012-08-26 22:48

      i believe it is in finland, that the ministes are made up of teahers, scientists, professors etc etc. Makes you wonder does'nt

      Voiceinthedesert.co.za - 2012-08-28 18:55

      Ha Ha You bunch of Fu#$kers, the $hit is going to hit the fa soon cos it is just another corruption cest pool and the truth has a way of coming out he he he lekker lekker julle rubbish

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-26 17:59

    "The tripartite alliance is going to be around for many years to come.". So on top of everything else they are now threatening us with more of the same? The Alliance managed to discredit itself all on its own. Marikana is the symptom, not the cause.

  • jerry.medina.756 - 2012-08-26 18:15

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEER every time I see this man's name my blood boils. ANC are not anything but a bunch of self serving, corrupt traitors who should be treated as such.

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-08-26 18:15

    T have a "Counter-Revolution, you have to be having a Revolution? Mantashe is wriggling like the worm that he is.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-26 18:20

      They're embarrassed that someone finally pointed out to the world that the Emperor has no clothes.

      alf.pop - 2012-08-26 20:00

      More like a barbel with tooth decay!

  • darra.pillay - 2012-08-26 18:19

    You should know Mr Mantashe. You guys wrote the book on hi-jacking! Past masters of the 'craft'! Sharpeville, June 16 ...... the anc had nought to do with either! and the The Freedom Charter a collaborative effort of many of which you were one!,.... and you act as if it's your own! ...and all those out there who knew and know no better will swear it was yours! The deliberate and brilliantly conceived and managed hijacking of the children who fled the country in seventy six, right into the arms of cadres languishing in the doldrums at the time.Masters of the craft you were, sir.... except it is turning on you now, is it not?

      ludick.media - 2012-08-26 22:48

      100% Darra. You cant create a monster and then get angry at it when it stomps on a few buildings....The ANC created this, now the only way to get out is to blame it on other people and so called highjackers... losers

  • sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-08-26 18:24

    It worries me how the ANC and its alliance partners regard people who do not think or act as they do. They spew words like "counter revolutionary" and "third force" to describe these people, and the message is always very clear - you are either with us, or you are our enemy. There is no room for a different perspective or approach. From where I am sitting, it does not sound democratic at all.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-26 18:31

      It's not meant to. Hence the failure of democracy in ZA. You are free to vote, but if you don't vote for us you are betraying the cause. You are a counter-revolutionary. You will be dishonouring the movement. A rabbit will come get you.

      ludick.media - 2012-08-26 22:46

      its never been

  • bobo.jane.1 - 2012-08-26 18:32

    Helloooo....your communism fails. "Sometimes in life, people don`t want to see the truth, because they don`t want their illusions destroyed"

  • william.letsong.5 - 2012-08-26 18:34

    Irrespective of the reasons why Num expelled Joseph, fact is he too is now a union boss (your competitor Manthase). Except that, get your buds of the gravy train and start focusing on what trade unions are suppose to focus on or start a political party because your tripartite movement is busy crumbling. Once Amcu accumulates enough support and Cosatu's membership falls, the ANC will kick you out and that will be the end of your tripartite alliance. Now the poor majority must just use their brains for once and vote for any black opposition party comes 2014. Competition is healthy and it is time that the ANC gets a wake up call too.

  • stephen.king.900 - 2012-08-26 18:35

    Very strange. There are now counter revolutionarys because they cant blame apartheid. Their own took on their own and blood was shed. They cant own up to the fact that their actions in enriching themselves and flaunting it for all to see was bound to catch up with them and has. Jacob will fiddle while South Africa will burn.

  • khaya.blaai.1 - 2012-08-26 18:38

    The only people I know who would rejoice when someone dies are witches and funeral undertakers. It is so immoral to take advantange of others' missery to score political points. Shame on all those who purely went to Marikana to tell the poor community how bad the ANC and NUM are. They should find a better platform for their campaigns and not take our people for a ride.

      william.letsong.5 - 2012-08-26 19:09

      Before 94, the ANC used funerals to get their messages across. Today after 94,funerals and accidents scenes where many died are still the platforms they use to tell the masses how they will improve safety and their lives. So what's your point? It was in the heat of the moment for the opposition and the ANC don't have exclusive rights to those platforms, now get over it.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-27 06:28

      william, sorry fella, but the exploitation of the Lonmin situation has to be one of the lowest depths people with political ambitions in this country have reached. The ANC deserves to be lambasted, but the lambasting in this situation is purely politically motivated, nothing else. Has absolutely less than nothing to do with caring for people. So the point is - all those using these "platforms" are immoral, using the dead as fodder for their own ambitions.

  • Andre - 2012-08-26 18:42

    Mr Mantashe, but that's exactly what the ANC has been doing ever since they came into power!

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-08-26 18:44

    Die kat spring onder die tafel neer.

  • craig.king.7505 - 2012-08-26 18:45

    It's an odd country that has communists in the government in 2012. It is a failed philosophy and adds nothing to the general wellbeing of the population yet there it is. I understand that the top 20% share of the national cake is bigger now than it was in 1994. The communists and the comrades are doing OK but the rest are buggered. Comrade this and comrade that has done nothing but fill the pockets of the connected. Even the idiotic trade unions just fight over subscriptions needed to fund lifestyles of the comrades. Kick em all out and start again I say.

  • nkhangwe.madzivh - 2012-08-26 18:50

    What's wrong with all this politician?it is now clear to me that politician they care less about people's life's ,no one is saying any constructive things except blaming other peoples for hijacking Marikana as if it was ANC 100 birthday party,I am tired of reading the comments of people I used to respect as politician not making sense,Sdumo Dlamini promise to deal with malema,I ask,for what?telling miners that union sell them out?thats true and everybody can see that,instead of Sdumo deal with cosatu affiliate he want to deal with malema,why is that priority?i personally no confidence to this union.you can not ignore the conditions the miners are working on and peanuts they are earning and feel that everything is good.

      ludick.media - 2012-08-26 22:45

      Its all about votes dude. They would create a stir to gain votes from your death too... no shame at all. Its all about the money, F_ck the people that die in the trenches of everyday life hey ? Also, If the miners didnt kill 10 people themselves, and stormed the cops as they were asked not too...they would still be alive. They are ass guilty as anyone else in there

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-27 06:34

      Malema is speaking the truth - but I promise you, its purely to enhance his political ambitions, less than nothing to do with caring. He will always choose the most popular side as that is where he scores political points. Its a very simple tactic. But I guess they're all bad, so its irrelevant who "wins" in the end, with people like this filling ALL the "leadership" positions, we don't have much hope anyway. None of them are interested in governance, they all are addicted to gravy.

      emmanuel.nkhahle - 2012-09-06 16:26

      Mantashe ,Malema, he is doin what any leader should have döne ,u peole dont care for the mine workerz .but u only need there subscriptiön for your benefit .shake them Malema i support u man

  • dan.gleebits.33 - 2012-08-26 18:56

    Here's your problem Gwede: the SA political elite has wholeheartedly jumped into the self-enriching trough that has come with almost absolute & corrupt power. Unfortunately for them that hasn't solved internal rifts between "comrades" - JuJu vs JZ and the chaos in the Eastern Cape are examples. JuJu has excellently exploited Marikana as a stepping stone back towards access to taxpayer's cash. The greed is fuelling the divisions and is a self-consuming cancer that is going to destroy the ANC, let alone the tri-partite alliance. Here for many years to come? Amazing that you can say it with a straight face. You are going to eat each other up while the poor continue to suffer.

  • mark.barker.370 - 2012-08-26 19:13

    I doubt the country could withstand many more years of the tripartite alliance. However they must be given enough rope to hang themselves and their revolution and then we can start the real counter-revolution. First phase - TAX BOYCOTT!!!!

      FinalJustice - 2012-08-26 20:56

      Hear, hear! I vote for Phase 1: TAX BOYCOTT

  • sabzxatoto - 2012-08-26 19:42

    U such a shame your sell out. You bargain on peoples lives,u not even ashamed u take 2 weeks 2 cum out and say sumthing. What kinda director are u,you sell out yo own blood.disgusting phuza face,u must b even drunk while u said this

      ludick.media - 2012-08-26 22:43

      its just sad that he pulls a Mugabe lets blame the counter revolutionaries and foreign agancies for what happend..never his own incopetance...

  • ntsunyane.frederick - 2012-08-26 20:44

    You failed to give miners good working condions including salaries,\r\nNow you are counter acting others who said you failed miners.Mantashe,please keep your big mouth shut.

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-26 21:00

    Man, stop talking your silly politcal language of revolutionaries vs counter-revolutionaries and other BS. What is it that you lot so like to impress or disempress each other with the gobbledegook you talk? The truth as far as it relates to the rest if the country and its tax contributing and work sustaining (even work creating) activities is simple: You lot have turned your back on the very law enforcement services who, with warts and all, are te last blue/brown thin line between us and law and order. C'mon you politicians! For once repent and be honest.

  • tdastile1 - 2012-08-26 21:40

    Where were you Gwede? When Marikana was hijacked heeee heeee?????????????

      ludick.media - 2012-08-26 22:40

      sipping whiskey in his nice house planning on how to use this incident to gain votes

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-08-26 21:58

    I think the picture of this article,tell's it all.

      dimitripappas - 2012-08-26 22:38

      Haha. Reminds me of this old chap - Credo Mutwa: http://www.inspirational-black-literature.com/images/credo-mutwa.JPG

  • ludick.media - 2012-08-26 22:37

    "Counter revolutionaries" ...youuuuuu idiot....they are from YOUR PARTY!!! And highjacked...id say ...your party asked for forgiveness, visited miners in hospital, even paid for the funerals .... Highjacked id say yes, by YOU and YOUR Party....

  • ludick.media - 2012-08-26 22:39

    "Is it about the movement itself, is it a fight over resources or handing over the country to foreign agencies?" --- so we are pulling a Mugabe lets blame it on the Foreign Agancies trick? nice touch you loser...

  • KCorsar - 2012-08-26 22:56

    was the Marikana strike about economic rights or their affiliation to a union faction. Either way politicians would ALL do well to STFU!! In summary the miners embarked on an illegal, unsanctioned strike; which sadly turned nasty and resulted in loss of life. Are the miners innocent in their actions - NO, their actions were inciting of violent behaviour, never peaceful especially what was broadcast. Are the police innocent in their actions - NO, their display was nothing short of a total lack of discipline and proper command. Alternative means of dispersion (non lethal munitions) did not appear to have been used or applied effectively. I believe the police panicked!

      emmanuel.nkhahle - 2012-09-06 16:36

      Malema ke na le wena esale ona le Lonmin workerz from beginin ,all other leaderz like Mantashe did nothin bt only what he is doin is to speek toomarch viva Juju viva

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-08-27 06:01

    Empirical evidence...the pic confirms the theory of evolution !!

  • attie.gerber.1 - 2012-08-27 06:11

    the sooner politicians stay out of the private sector business the better it will be for our economy. that includes govt employees doing business with the govt. these people have got jobs why enrich themselves even further whereas unemployed people could be given a chance to find an income.

  • Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-27 06:18

    Alliance? More like circus .... quite a ridiculous bunch really. Beware of the rabbit though.

  • adupedi - 2012-08-27 07:59

    YOU AFRIAD TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY COURSE YOU SEE PEOPLE DIE, IS YOUR FALT FOR THAT MATTER COURSE YOU DON'T WHAT TO NATIONALISED THOSE MINE COURSE YOU HAVE SHARE THERE. TODAY YOU ARE HAPPY COURSE PEOPLE DIE FOR THEIR DEMAND, VIVA JUJU VIVA IS A TIME TO STEP DOWN.

  • adupedi - 2012-08-27 07:59

    YOU AFRIAD TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY COURSE YOU SEE PEOPLE DIE, IS YOUR FALT FOR THAT MATTER COURSE YOU DON'T WHAT TO NATIONALISED THOSE MINE COURSE YOU HAVE SHARE THERE. TODAY YOU ARE HAPPY COURSE PEOPLE DIE FOR THEIR DEMAND, VIVA JUJU VIVA IS A TIME TO STEP DOWN.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-27 11:49

      Eish ...

  • adupedi - 2012-08-27 08:03

    YOU SEE PEOPLE STRIKE IN THE FIRST DAY YOU DIDN'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO GO THERE BUT IF KING ZWELETHINE MARRY YOU GO THERE 10 HOURS BEFORE TO ORGANISE HIS MARRIGE. BUT PEOPLE DIE, YOU GO LATE WHEN MALEMA TELL YOU REAL TRUTH, YOU BLAME HIM YOUR NOT REAL LEADER STEP DOWN. VIVA JUJU VIVA.

  • adupedi - 2012-08-27 08:04

    YOU SEE PEOPLE STRIKE IN THE FIRST DAY YOU DIDN'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO GO THERE BUT IF KING ZWELETHINE MARRY YOU GO THERE 10 HOURS BEFORE TO ORGANISE HIS MARRIGE. BUT PEOPLE DIE, YOU GO LATE WHEN MALEMA TELL YOU REAL TRUTH, YOU BLAME HIM YOUR NOT REAL LEADER STEP DOWN. VIVA JUJU VIVA.

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-08-27 09:41

    If it was highjacked,dont you think it would have been appropriate to send the same cops who shot the miners considering that highjack is a violent crime-come on Gwede is Julius shaking your comfort zone, wake up chief you and your cadres are counter revolutionary

  • netswera.livhuwani - 2012-08-27 09:53

    Gwende is always out of context, this time around Mr Matashe you are just being ignorant and bullying as usual, the Marikina killings is not a tragedy it is a massacre where mine workers got sacrifices to save Lonmin profits in the expense of workers living wages. Your opinion is still not a fact Gwende, This country is getting tired of this tripartite alliance nonsense it makes it imposable for the government to deliver when they have to satisfy the alliance, The alliance is like a vulture waiting for the left overs now they want the fresh piece of the carcass ?

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-27 11:49

      I agree with you the "alliance" is possibly the biggest problem of all - they all have different directions, how is it possible to achieve any goals when each alliance member has a different goal. How do you feel about the people these miners massacred, or are their lives worthless? The miners got what they deserved, murderers deserve to be killed in my opinion. You all seem against the police and on the murderous strikers side - I don't understand the reasoning.

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