Marius Fransman to take on Helen Zille

2011-02-12 23:03

Cape Town - Deputy International Relations Minister Marius Fransman was on Saturday elected unopposed as Western Cape's provincial ANC chairman.

Former provincial chair Mcebisi Skwatsha who was expected to oppose Fransman eventually declined his nomination at the much postponed Western Cape ANC conference.

Speaking to Sapa afterwards, Fransman said the province had come through a "very good conference" where a total of 718 delegates had voting rights.

His priority now was to regain popular support amongst the people, Fransman said.

There were serious tensions in the different communities in the province and the new leadership would now try to reconnect with the people and civil society in all areas, from Bonteheuvel to Khayelitsha and the rural areas, he said.

Earlier, President Jacob Zuma urged the provincial ANC to put unity ahead of individual leadership interests.

He had harsh words for delegates saying the meeting was taking place at a time when the Western Cape branch was facing its most acute challenges.

Discussion about leadership had become the single most important issue and was taking precedence over the state of the ANC in the province, he said


The conference was preoccupied with one thing only - voting for the leadership - instead of looking to the upcoming local government elections and the task of wrestling power from the Democratic Alliance.

"That is a sickness that kills this organisation," said Zuma.

The ANC in the Western Cape had been "fighting itself", giving other parties the opportunity to win elections as ANC supporters stood back because of the infighting.

"We have even failed as an opposition [to the DA] in the Western Cape."

The ANC did not have the time to be an effective opposition because "we are dealing with one another", Zuma said

Support for the party in the province had drastically declined and new membership was growing "very slowly".

He said this should be of concern to all serious ANC members as it was spending more energy and time on one another.

The Western Cape was the only province in which the ANC was promoting internal differences.

What was happening in the province threatened the ANC's core principle - the unity of the movement - thus weakening the party.

"This is a painful truth," he said. He said the Western Cape ANC needed visionary and revolutionary leadership that understood the centrality of unity.

  • OzzieCPT - 2011-02-12 23:50

    Good luck Mr Fransman - see how far you get to winning the Western Cape and to Helen Zille your days are numbered amongst the coulored voters!!!!!!!!! Both need to catch a wake-up!

      Dogmatic - 2011-02-13 00:09

      First learn to spell coloured before you talk crap.You catch a wake-up, or are you enjoying the gravy?

      foitapoilet - 2011-02-13 07:55

      You cant polish a turd!!!

      Hilton - 2011-02-13 08:00

      The only reason Marius Fransman was chosen, was to attract the coloured vote, what a joke. They did the same with Rasool, and after the elections the ANC will remove him. As for your prediction that he will be challenging Mrs Zille, he has no chance.

      Shadoz - 2011-02-13 09:28


      GBES - 2011-02-14 13:35

      My man Oz. This guy cannot take Zille on.Only 718 delegates at a PROVINCIAL conference? Why will the coloureds vote for Zille again? The anc plans to negatively impact our jobs,promotions,childrens futures'(already bursaries are affected)just like they did to the whites.How? They wants the Wcape EE targets to reflect the NATIONAL demographics.This means coloured representation will drop approx.from 60% to less that 8% as per the national affirmative action targets.Coloureds used to reside under the "BLACK" designation!You steal from people,and expects them to vote for you?Bloody fools

      Paul - 2011-02-14 16:33

      Tough Job, Not easy being the token coloured face in the ANC. This bloke is being set up for a disaster.

      exocist - 2011-02-14 18:10


  • jannie - 2011-02-12 23:58

    Even replacing an ethnic African "leader" with a coloured one to win votes will not help the anc. The DA will whoop any anc ass in the Western Cape. Come anc, try to take the Western Cape cant.

  • anne.somerville - 2011-02-13 00:17

    Who elected him ????? Who is he ???????????

      roadvark - 2011-02-13 06:30

      Good question.What actually is his claim to fame?

      foitapoilet - 2011-02-13 08:22

      Eagles may soar in the clouds, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines.

      kennygreenaway - 2011-02-13 13:20

      Another TOKEN shame. He must quickly learn how to drink beer out of a bucket, learn to slaughter a cow in his front garden, sell his samoosa making machine and go to Arthur Murry(The ANC will pay) to learn the national dance for his stage appearances.

      maggielou - 2011-02-20 05:19

      Like Ehrenreich he is a 'wannabe' with a rock on his shoulder!

  • markings - 2011-02-13 04:27

    Skwatsha declining his nomination? Does anybody think that this was not due to behind the scenes manipulation? While Fransman is the better choice in terms of winning votes it will only serve to further the divisions in the WC ANC.

      roadvark - 2011-02-13 06:28

      Of course he was told to stand down. It's only a ploy and it won't work. Results of good governance shown by the DA far outweigh political manouvering like this.

      exocist - 2011-02-14 18:49


  • maseratifitt - 2011-02-13 06:52

    "...instead of... wrestling power from the Democratic Alliance." "That is a sickness that kills this organisation," Two things: 1) Why would you want to wrest "power" from somebody who is serving the people better than yourselves? Many know the answer to this question but I am sure the majority of ANC supporters are still in the dark. 2) Just as in-fighting between members of a party does not promote unity within the party, in-fighting between parties does not promote unity within the Nation. If the fighting was about right/wrong it would be OK, but it is always about which individual or which party gets the "power". Our electoral system is designed by politicians for the benefit of politicians. We really must abolish the Party system, as it is the greatest stumbling block towards democracy and unity in our country.

      kznsc - 2011-02-13 07:08

      So right you are, common sense and good advice these ruling eejits dont seem to understand. We cannot live with murder,rape,nepotism fraud, self enrichment of officials and everything else destructive the current goverment dishes out to us anymore.

  • duncan - 2011-02-13 06:55

    Trying to check who's stealing where leaves no time to canvas for votes.

  • Blood_Doll - 2011-02-13 07:07

    Another pathetic attempt to win the "coloured" vote in the Western Cape. Still, because you elect a guy of the same colour as I, doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him. We're not all that stupid, Zuma. Stick to importing voters by the bus load into the Western Cape; you're still not getting my vote or the Western Cape. The struggle is long past, the sympathy vote long nulled. The only struggle left is getting rid of you lot.

      Balmy - 2011-02-13 09:20

      I agree with you 100%. Just because he is the same colour as us clearly does not mean he is getting our vote. No ANC politician will ever get my vote again.

      edward.abrahams - 2011-02-13 14:28

      @Blood_Doll and @Balmy - I COULD NOT have said it better!!! The ANC will never get my vote again either. There is a NEW struggle and that is to get rid of the ANC in our beautiful country. The struggle has nothing to do with different races but everything to do with blatant corruption, greed, absolute lawlessness(to name but a few). I'm not fazed in the least the this ANC-person is the same colour as us, they are wicked and with the track-record of the rest of the country to go by, who in their right minds will put them in power in our beautiful Western Cape. What is going to happen is they are going to lose more and more power in the Western Cape and the surrounding provinces.

      Swartvel - 2011-02-13 14:45

      I am a black man and let e tell you that the anc will not get me vote, you must see how dirty they talked about the white , coloured and indian in their meetings, totally racist, they must starve to death. never trust the anc again....!!!!

      simodi - 2011-02-14 15:41

      at least the poor capetonian will have proper toilet "VIVA ANC "

      BigD - 2011-02-14 16:18

      @simode. Why do you insist on talking so much crap. Have a look around Guateng and try getting propper housing and toilets for these people first. You bloody agent.

      Gift - 2011-02-15 09:30

      In ur dreams he is there to stay,zille is doing a grt job i know-but because of the past-they will never rule this country-white can nvr rule our contry again

      croix - 2011-02-15 10:03

      Anyone who is prepared to stand as a leader for the "Anarchy, Nepotism, Corruption" cannot have an ounce of moral decency or ethics in his body. The one thing that's giving us hope is that the PEOPLE are wisening up to the emotional 'struggle talk' of the ANC Corporation Ltd. They have managed to stuff up the rest of the country in terms of services, now they want to do the 'same' for WC. They only want the Western Cape because they cannot get their hands on the loot there!

      Mgayi - 2011-02-21 10:22

      Believe you me and contrary to popular belief , the election of a leader of colour will garner some more votes from the coloured community to some extent . Even in future when the ANC elects a white president(behold here cometh the dreamer), you will see a growth in support from the white community . . .we can criticise the ANC online but some people do fall for these kinds of tricks

  • Nico - 2011-02-13 07:21

    Here we go again with "revolutionary leadership"...........

  • gpwengineer - 2011-02-13 07:29

    Let's hope Fransman will now stop walking around the Newlands rugby VIP suits totally pi$$ed during matches. I still don't think the ANC understands the voting dynamic in the Western Cape. Choosing a Coloured to its leadership will not help the ANC's cause. Coloureds in general will hate Fransman and be more inclined to vote for the DA. If the ANC wants to get coloured votes in the Western Cape, either choose a white representative in the western cape or a coloured female. Instead they have chosen a man that has done and meant little to the coloured community in the western cape.

  • Mxhuma - 2011-02-13 07:37

    They failed with Boesak and Nielsen as premier elects. Both were Christians. They only marginally succeeded when they brought in a Moslem chap in. Is Fransman a Christan,Moslem or none of the above?

      Worldwise - 2011-02-13 08:34

      Who cares? The WC is voting for someone that will serve them, not someone with a hotline to an imaginary friend.

      Gundaan - 2011-02-15 00:20

      He has to be a Communist the ANC & their Allies ...

  • maseratifitt - 2011-02-13 07:39

    Perhaps Mr. Fransman and Me. Zille should both publish lists of what they have done for the people of the Western Cape so far. Then the people can decide for themselves. I have a feeling that Zille would gladly take up this challenge, but I suspect Fransman would rather just go on another trip abroad.

  • oukappie - 2011-02-13 07:48

    Make western cape and northern cape homelands for kullids only that my orgasismic dream

      roadvark - 2011-02-13 08:17

      There are easier ways to have an orgasm but nothing wrong with dreaming. It is good to have goals.

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-13 08:18

      oukappie: Everything starts with a dream. The wetter the better. The Cape has the sea and the N. Cape had the floods.

  • Mxhuma - 2011-02-13 07:54

    Sikwatsha declining nomination! who is fooling who?

  • ArtGee - 2011-02-13 08:10

    I wonder if the "GODS" also pissed on their Parade? Marius Fransman...who died and made him a leader? He is as CORRUPT as the rest of them... Can the ANC not just accept that they are FALLING APART, and no DEVINE INTERVENTION will help with that either... people caN seen thru the ANC, like looking thru a piece of DIRTY PLASTIC!

  • Colin Dovey - 2011-02-13 08:34

    What has happened in the past to the ANC in the Western Cape is now quietly happening throughout South Africa. The ANC, like it or not is falling apart - Zuma has no clue how to handle all the factions, including Cosatu and the Communists. Egypt is taking the lead for true democracy - the people are tired of corrupt, arrogant, self-seeking politicians (a la Winnie, etc, etc) What we ALL need is an INSPIRATIONAL person to emerge from the masses, currently held back by old-fashioned ideas. The people NEED jobs, and people who have IDEAS to make them. Patrick Craven in Cosatu is a SAD old man who gives the mining Industry in CHINA the thumbs-up - and there "Safety" record is a disgrace. What arrant rubbish they talk. Surely we South Africans can do better?

      jannie - 2011-02-13 08:56

      @Colin Dovey - "Egypt is taking the lead for true democracy.." The problem with that is that democracy in took 25+ years to be adopted. Everywhere in Africa "Democracy" is starting, but we all know that it is a joke. For Democracy to be champion, someone will have to give up power. For centuries Africa has adopted a tribal mindset, with a chief who decides what is best for the tribe, with no input from the tribe members. The ANC just replaced the chief with the "ANC Collective". They always talk as if they take everybody into consideration. The chief will not just abandon his power. Take for example King Mswatsi from Swaziland. The ANC support him, give him millions of rands every year to support his many cars, wives. And he is not democratically elected, he is the chief. The ANC and their double standards...

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-13 09:06

      Jannie. The people are not supposed to know this. The King of Swaziland is one of the richest in the world. The millions our government gives to him could have gone a long way towards improving the lives of South Africans. If the people of South Africa and Swaziland find out about how they are being done in, an epidemic of democracy may break out. The ANC cannot afford this. So shut up.

      Gundaan - 2011-02-15 00:28

      @ maseratiitt ..funny name , nevertheless ..How dare you tell jannie to shut up ..he comes with valid points are a Smart feller ..say it backwards ...oops sorry Just having fun !!!

      maggielou - 2011-02-20 05:25

      Jannie & Masserati - where can we read up about the SA Gov's support (financially) for all those Maybachs, Louis Vuittons and Dom Perignon in Swaziland?

  • lldoidge - 2011-02-13 08:37

    Hey Fransman bring it on! See, we don't care who leads the ANC in the Western Cape. We only have to look at all the other provinces to see what the ANC are capable or incapable of. We see through why you were voted unopposed. Whether the ANC had a white, coloured, black, green, purple leader in the WC won't change a thing. We will always see you as a member of the corrupt, thieving ANC.

  • VM1 - 2011-02-13 08:48

    Sterkte Marius sterkte - long way ahead we will go to the polls again to as we have always done to vote fo the ANC . we are behind you

      Blood_Doll - 2011-02-13 08:52

      Just as behind as you were in English class, I gather. Failed then, will fail now.

      croix - 2011-02-15 10:25

      VM1 - For once, you're in the MINORITY ! Bwaah-Hah-Hah-Hah!!! (You'll always be 'behind' as long as you support the 'Corporation').

      Felix - 2011-02-15 11:26

      Silly Lemming, are you getting a free bus ticket across the country to spread your vote like you spread disease?

  • HAggardGnome - 2011-02-13 09:09

    I hope he gets his butt kicked!

  • To The Point - 2011-02-13 09:17

    Why does Fransman not leave the beautiful Cape and move to one of the other rundown disorganised provinces where corruption and lies are the order of the day and where the ANC cardholders turned beautiful cities into ghettos and human lavatories. Leave the Cape to the intelligent, civilized and organised people of this country. The Cape should become a Republic. Fransman does not have the intelligence to run to the shop let alone run a province "So vat jou goed en trek Fransman" translated:- bugger off

      Albert - 2011-02-19 08:10

      Brilliant idea. Why not transfer him to the Eastern Cape to sort out the mess his ANC created there. Ek willie he die western Cape moet soos Umtata lyk nie.

  • Shadoz - 2011-02-13 09:32

    This is just another attempt from the ANC to try and get the Western Cape. As we all know they will pretty much scoop to any leval to try and stay in power. And the fact that the Western Cape is the best Province and only Province that has almost remained in tact from ANC greed and corruption.

  • asiseeit - 2011-02-13 09:47

    Lets take a look at his creditials, Current Position(s) Deputy Minister of International Relations and Cooperation, , South Africa (2010 - present) Chairman, , South Africa (2009 - present) Member of Provincial Executive Council: Transport and Public Works, Government of South Africa, Western Cape Previous Position(s) Minister for local government and housing, (2004 - 2005) Minister of social development and poverty alleviation, (2003 - 2004) Well looking at his past positions we can see that during the period when the Western Cape was ruled by the ANC that this farce was part of the problem.

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-13 10:07

      ..."this farce was part of the problem." asiseeit: Please just check the spelling of the second word in the quote. I thought it was spelt with four letters. Terribly sorry to interrupt your tea time.

      Worldwise - 2011-02-13 11:49

      @Maseratifitt. Get yourself a dictionary. The intended word is not fart but farce as written. Look it up before putting your foot in your mouth, like the ANC. You a product of outcomes based education?

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-13 12:00

      Sorry Worldwise. Please forgive the highly uneducated me for having a bit of fun.

  • Jimmy - 2011-02-13 10:15

    Comments such as, "Wresting power," or "ANC rule'" worry me. Being in Government shouldn't equate to being in power. Neither does it involve ruling. Being in Government should be about providing services and trying to make life better for all. It should also be about spending taxpayers money carefully and doing so with transparency and accountability.

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-13 10:41

      Right on, Jimmy. If only the "majority" can see this.

      Bill - 2011-02-15 06:59

      words of wisdom Jimmy!!

      bill - 2011-02-15 09:13

      Zuma is a tribal savage and hence only knows the concept of ruling.The western form of democracy where parties operate for the greater good and the populace is consulted , is foreign to this KZN warlord.

      Felix - 2011-02-15 11:32

      Great Comment! @bill, you make me laugh buddy. Do you really see Zuma as a WARlord? He's probably held more martini's than assagais in his life. Who is John Galt?

      Maddy-CT - 2011-02-15 13:21

      @ Felix. Who is John Galt? Why do you bring up John Galt in the context of Zuma? They are surely opposites in terms of ideology...?

  • dvdb27 - 2011-02-13 10:18

    It's too little too late Zuma. Too many kids are addicted to tik. Too many nice rims buckled by potholes. Too many weak, hard earned SA Rondt's gone missing or spent on tasteless gravy ingredients. Too many mothers killing babies. Too many farmers disemboweled. Too many wives raped and tortured in front of kids and husbands. Too many unroadworthy taxi's smashing into law abiding citizens vehicles wiping out entire families. Too many light air craft crashes. Too many blocked street drains. Too much human feaces for the sewerage plants to handle. Too many educated South Africans lost to developed nations. Too many illegal immigrants. Too many shot in their driveways and homes for NOTHING. Too many undisclosed arms deals. Too many good relationships between SA and the leading communist countries. Too many cheaply paid for and gruesome murders. Too many rhino's poached. Too many visits to Zim to meet ZanuPF. Too many racial slurs like, "kill white people". Too many pointless and expensive parties inside and outside of the country. Too many kilos of boerewors soaked in imported Jack Daniel's bourbon whiskey at ANC birthday bashes. Too many broken promises. Too many brainwashed citizens. Too many scare tactics. Too many arrogant government officials. Too many racist Metro Cops (black on white and Indian more specifically). Too many cabinet reshuffle's. How many times? Too many times. Skunk has a special message for you:

  • reg - 2011-02-13 14:26

    No worries there Helen.

  • - 2011-02-13 14:35

    The ANC is obsessed with running each and every province in the country. It is not concerned about the people or the fact that the majority voted for change in the WC and therefre voted DA.Why vote to change a working government with a clean track record with one that has failed in all 8 other provinces it runs. Rasool and Lynne Brown failed so now Fransman comes along. The ANC should be driven by the need to satisfy the voters through service delivery without first worrying about leadership and internal power struggle issues. The demographics of the WC is different to other provinces and the ANC remains ignorant to that. The voters in the WC will vote to keep clean good governance, anti-corruption, etc.

  • archilito - 2011-02-13 21:55

    @hilton second your motion. Cape Tonians wake up there's going to be no pat on the back surely accompanied by empty promises

  • The Patriot - 2011-02-14 11:55

    Unopposed? See how long that lasts. I presume there were no other delegates at the caucus meeting. Too busy fighting outside maybe?

  • K_za - 2011-02-14 14:48

    Helen is the only politician that really cares about the coloured community. So she's white....big deal! She is an inspiration to everyone. The proof is in the pudding, just look at how well the W Cape is doing. Nobody can perform miracles but at least we have water and electricity, decent comparison.

  • Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-02-14 15:41

    The DA's achievements in the WC are inspiring, especially when one considers that it is the stated aim of the ANC national government to remove them. The other eight provinces languish, despite the full support of the ANC national government. I doubt very much that the WC electorate are foolish enough to trade an organisation that can flourish in adversity for one that cannot perform even in the best circumstances.

  • BigD - 2011-02-14 16:14

    You will need to wake up early in the morning to beat Zille. I would be worried if the anc top dogs want you there, are they wanting to get rid of you, are you put there because you can be manipulated, maybe because you would share the loot. But you are on a hideing second to none

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  • exocist - 2011-02-14 18:45

    HEY FRANSIE ,you can start preparing your congradulations speach for the DA.sommer now my bra, at least you'll have enough time to prepare, you are way out of touch with your own people riding on the gravy train and as you know, the gravy train never stops in the western cape but is permanently in the north of the country

  • v3 - 2011-02-14 19:09

    It would be more accurate to say that Skwatsha refused to stand because he felt the election rigged. In other words the ANC's corruption is spreading within the party as well. After the way ANCYL president Malema has gerrymandered the ANCYL conferences, it is not surprising that the YL should be at the centre of a provincial rigging accusation.

  • HaWeLoose - 2011-02-14 20:16

    I find the debate sad (and ignorant), specifically due to the fact that whilst the ANC fights in the Western Cape, the media elects to ignore the factions within the DA (PFP vs. NP!). The reality is that infighting in either the ANC or DA does not benefit the people of the Western Cape. We need intelligent inter party political debate. Again the people are the losers and the politicians earn the salaries.

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-14 20:35

      We don't need political debate. We need managerial action.

  • AJ - 2011-02-15 04:58

    ANC Logic: Put a coloured guy there and all the coloured people will obviously vote for him - easy neh? Nothing to do with performance etc, just skin colour, because that is all supporters need, someone who looks like them. Morons.

  • K_za - 2011-02-15 08:03

  • hlase.riba - 2011-02-15 09:06

    if the Western Cape colourds vote for this guy because he's colourd,they would be stupid... Unless you are part of the ANC syndicate, why would anyone vote for these corrupt, greedy criminals?

  • sceptic - 2011-02-15 09:23


  • Chris - 2011-02-15 10:48

    Another enigineered result by Cadre Deployment Head Office Luthuli House. No Party can survive the crony system because they will without fail turn on themselves devouring the dwindling economic benefits that belong to the poor. Fransman has not stood the test of Political Time and the only way he remains in mainstream politics is because he can kop smokkel the Luthuli House Regime with promises of bringing the Province back to the ANC.

  • AJ - 2011-02-15 11:09

    If this Fransman character is from the Western Cape originally then it certainly a case of putting your party before your province. Much like tazering yourself on purpose. You know you shouldn't and that it's the wrong thing to do and will hurt, but you go ahead and do it anyway.

      GH - 2011-02-15 12:24

      Ha ha ha! Fransman should consider himself well-tazered!

  • colling - 2011-02-16 10:17

    Marius start looking at the deliverables - poverty, job creation and a better life for the poor. As the leader of the ANC of this province you need to go back to basic, rebuild former strong branches and interact with civil society organisation to understand the needs of the poor masses.

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