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Mbalula: Don't reduce 2nd transition to songs

2012-09-26 22:29

Johannesburg - The ANC's second transition cannot be reduced to freedom songs, national executive committee member Fikile Mbalula said on Wednesday.

"If you start singing you'll never understand the debate," he told students at Wits university in Johannesburg.

"A transition is not an event, it's a process and a journey."

He was referring to songs in support of African National Congress leaders.

Members of the party supporting President Jacob Zuma would show two fingers indicating a second term, while others would show the soccer sign for a change over.

These songs and signs were killing the debate, said Mbalula.

Mbalula was speaking at the ANC Youth League's 68th anniversary lecture. He said the voice of reason was being suppressed by who could sing the loudest.

"The politics of today is reduced to the politics of freedom songs. That is why we don't know what our future is," said Mbalula.

He told the ANCYL not to allow the organisation to be suppressed.

"Think comrades... then you will find allies [in the ANC].

Mbalula said the ANCYL must not be "cry babies".

The ANCYL must not apologise for calling for the nationalisation of mines and economic freedom.

"No one else has made this call," he said.

"Elect people [at Mangaung] and give them a programme of action."

Take the second transition to the next level, said Mbalula.

The ANCYL is calling for Mbalula to be elected the ruling party's secretary-general at the elective conference in December.

Nominations for leaders will open next month.

Comments
  • judith.taylor.56 - 2012-09-26 22:39

    Whoops Fikile you are talking complete sense - impressed

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-26 23:12

      I agree, but how do you change what has been done for how many years......are some people in the government finally realising that the height of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-26 23:32

      JockBlack?? What are you on about?

      chris.nel.35 - 2012-09-27 01:37

      Can somebody pleeeeze explain this "economic freedom" to me. What is it these people expect to happen and what will make them happy and "free". What is it that i can do so they can get this economic freedom they so desire and then can carry on with their lives and start working for the betterment of our country.

      frans.kotze.7 - 2012-09-27 06:47

      Chris.Nel, it pains me to like a comment made with that daisy thing involved! But spot on! What exactly can we do to provide this freedom?

      mattewis.kat - 2012-09-27 07:12

      Whoops Judith, not much needed to impress you! I suppose you'll break into spontaneous applause if this guy manages to tie his shoelaces. Don't underestimate the power of the dark side! They aren't as stupid as most liberals think.

  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-26 22:44

    So says the advocates of shoot the boer...hypocracy.....eish it is western word that.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-27 05:40

      “Hypocrisy”. Sorry Henk, but you keep spelling the word incorrectly :)

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-27 06:29

      Sorry Themba, but my new south african education only required a 30% pass rate...

      junebugg.kinte - 2012-09-27 10:23

      Lmao Kenny

  • bennie.kruger.5 - 2012-09-26 22:45

    The ANCYL is living proof that Anaal sex causes unwanted pregnancy !!!

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-26 23:03

      @Bennie ~ So true. It's also proof that abortions shouldn't be stopped when they're half way through the procedure. Seems george.dinta is actually the placenta.

      rofhiwa.ronald.1 - 2012-09-26 23:39

      @bennie kruger by saying ANCYL is aliving proof that anal sex causes unwanted pregnency .u have 2 go 4 psychological evaluation coz ur reasoning capacity is very deranged n ur parents must b ashamed of u .::ONE::

      alfie.dunn - 2012-09-27 09:54

      Hey!!! all that makes sense now...So, Juju is actually the afterbirth of some ANC miscarriage.

      mphogift.mukwevho - 2012-09-27 15:43

      dats unfortunate that we have people who debate issues like what your doing please say something that you can say even on national tv

  • frankflower - 2012-09-26 22:49

    Pardon my ignorance, but what on God's green planet is a 'soccer sign'?

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-09-26 22:53

      It's the sign the fans make when they want the coach to sub a player.

  • maggsnaidu - 2012-09-26 22:53

    haibo! "Take the second transition to the next level, said Mbalula." There's no such thing as "the second transition"! It's the second phase of the first transition. There's lots of phases and even more transitions - while South African state coffers are still full, that is!

      atholl.canterbury - 2012-09-27 06:31

      Less than 3 months ago, the 'Second Transition' was rejected : 'The majority of the 11 commissions on the ANC's strategy and tactics policy discussion document on Tuesday (26 June) rejected the second transition document'. === What is the Second Transition ===== Goebbells-Zuma: 'Zuma telling delegates during his opening address on Tuesday (26 June) that the country has completed the first transition – which was mainly about political freedom – and now needed to shift into the second transition, which focuses on economic and social transformation' === What is the Second Transition ===== Truth : Create a problem - then point to the problem (socio-economic/education/crime/corruption/chaos) in order to : .... nullify any voice of reason (the enemy) by associating the problem with your opponent (the enemy). .... associate yourself as the one with the solution to the problem (that you created). === Why create a problem == What is the Plan ? === In order to disguise your hidden intent for {Power}, {Control} and {Money} == { in short, to subvert, diminish and destroy the Constitution } == === Where is the best example ? == Zimbabwe, Nazi germany.

      Johannes - 2012-09-27 09:09

      Atholl - I can only hope that all the thumbs up are people that actually understand what you just said. Great summary btw. I cannot believe that some people still think we live in a democracy.. We just don't...

  • kumbulani - 2012-09-26 22:54

    Luks like the ANC dramma is going on and on. The mines soon wil b nationalisd and run down like the farms in Zim whilst all South Africans are watching. The fall of South Africa is jst around the corner

      dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-09-27 05:02

      @khethu When did the white people cause South Africa to "fall" ?

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-27 06:30

      Then we run to the rest of the world with our education and experience....sorry ne!

      gerald.parker.3956 - 2012-09-27 06:53

      Mr Khethu What colour are you certainly not Black but brown which reminds me of something else. oh and since you hate whites so much why do you wear clothes invented by the white man and use roads,cell phones and compoters invented by whites. Why don't you put your animal skins back on and climb back into your tree.

      morama.sebata - 2012-09-27 08:42

      @henk,which education do you currently possess you puuushole?

  • sagren.padayachie - 2012-09-26 22:59

    Second Transition, is the ANC's attempt at trying to justify the lack of progress in solving South Africa's social problems over the last 18 years. Remember, you can only fool some of the people some of the time.

      phillie.jansenvanvuuren - 2012-09-27 00:47

      They are fooling most of the people all the time LOL

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-09-27 05:58

      Have those school books been delivered yet HUH?

      Johannes - 2012-09-27 09:12

      MC - That is the point! Keep the masses stupid, and keep them angry. The easiest way to control people.

  • sj.fourie.56 - 2012-09-26 23:01

    Anc is corrupt. Obviously. Filled with pigs. Oh yes. Incompetent. Uncivilsed. Very. Power hungry. Yes. Racists. Worse than whites.

      sello.mabele - 2012-09-26 23:15

      u don't want accept change our gvt. Ur time has gone.

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-09-27 04:43

      Fourie56, how do you know all these things, conducted a survey of your own in sandton?

      duma.nkabinde - 2012-09-27 05:18

      sean.wolf.3388. The wolf in you is old and toothless, you are a shadow of a man, guess you are mad because you have been narrowed down to a N24 commenting pale rebel. We must get you some new toys.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-09-27 06:01

      Khethu Fourie did conduct a survey, malema lives in Sandton.

      morama.sebata - 2012-09-27 08:43

      You do acknoledge that hites are racists....thank you!

  • sj.fourie.56 - 2012-09-26 23:02

    Mbalula shud know his place.

  • fourhundredkg.bobbejaan - 2012-09-26 23:07

    Isn't it funny how these previous rabble-rousers and militants try to use the voice of reason now that the tables are turning on them? Suck it up, Fikile!

  • barco.thulani - 2012-09-26 23:10

    Yes fully agree with Mbalula,the vision of the freedom charter,let us nationalayz the mines;liberation movement)

      sagren.padayachie - 2012-09-26 23:27

      A wise man learns from the mistakes of others, nationalization of mines has failed in many countries. The ANC is not a liberation movement anymore. It has been the government for the past 18 years, hence we should hold it responsible or accountable for it's many failures.

      jayjay.mlungu - 2012-09-27 00:05

      Barco you tell me how nationalisation will benefit the masses in the long term. Give facts and figures and state your case. If it is technically sound and sustainable, I will support it, but otherwise you are blowing hot air out of you know where!SAA is nationalised and they run to the government every year for more money. Eskom is nationalised and they run to the government and us consumers every year for more money. They drain the resources ALL taxpayers pay, so dont come with ideas which have no justification anywhere in the world. Think for a change please!

      chris.nel.35 - 2012-09-27 01:40

      The freedom charter is like a comic book, untrealistic. I don't know how somebody casn believe what is written there. Wake up and go work for your livelyhood.

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-09-27 04:39

      @Sean, what do mean by looking up north, you mean zimbabwe? If that is the case, then you are wrong, im afraid, very wrong, why dont we look further up west, greece for 1, i'd rather be in zimbabwe, anytime, than be in greece.

      sibusiso.mhlongo.35 - 2012-09-27 07:54

      the nationalization of mines will only benefit people like Julius Malema, who will be getting kickbacks from his friends companies that will be awarded tenders by the mines. it will never benefit the masses, so people like Malema are only doing it for their own selfish gains. look at how rich the guy is now but he still wants more, why?

  • qhama.bona - 2012-09-26 23:10

    Long live Cmorade Mbalula Long live!!!! NGO 2012 eMangaung Sifunu Mbalula, Mbalula.. Sihamba no Mbalula, Mbalula, Mbalula.. Sivotela Mbalula, Mbalula, Mbalula #singing

      juicecard.tshaka - 2012-09-26 23:26

      How ironic that the person you are extoling through your song is telling you not to drown in your directionless singing

      qhama.bona - 2012-09-26 23:49

      Oh well you are missing the point completely. I'm not singing about the 2nd transition I'm singing about him. In the ANC we sing about our leaders. It's an old tradition that will always be there, but I won't be there one to school you about ANC traditions...

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-09-27 06:06

      A Culture of Stealing, Murdering Raping Fraud Corruption Nepotism AND the biggest crime of all: Plain Filthy Littering......Fix the littering culture and we are o our way...Think Clean Things will start working ...

  • fshabangu - 2012-09-26 23:17

    polished diamond, would have been proud to have been associated with the youth league Mbalula was leading as president!!! not the tender-loving expelled 1!!

  • Savethe White O - 2012-09-26 23:19

    South Africa's future e $1 is equal to e R200 000 just like zimbabwe with this mentality our ANC supporters

  • kumbulani - 2012-09-26 23:21

    Is there gonna be a solution to all this or its SUFFER CONTINUE scenario. The nation going down the drain

  • rofhiwa.ronald.1 - 2012-09-26 23:43

    Mbalula stop being a coppycat

  • wize.man.31 - 2012-09-27 00:30

    "If you start singing you'll never understand the debate," he told students at Wits university in Johannesburg. Sing,dance and gestures? Remember that from primary school. Fortunately for me,I grew up.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-09-27 06:09

      Wits Is A filthy dirty campus too....Gone down the tube.

  • davy.botha - 2012-09-27 00:54

    What scres me is that these intelligent people like Mbalula speks to the masses telling them what they want to hear because this means support for them as politicians. The reality does not matter because what they are proposing does not work and where nationalisation is practised and is actually worst for the workers and people. They can not run governmental departments and now they want to run mines. Bad idea!

      danie.strydom.7 - 2012-09-27 01:26

      All politicians globally play to the tune of the polls. The voter is the one that has to go on the achievements of elected officials to determine where to cast a vote next time around. Sadly, Africa being void of an intelligence level higher than a cactus plant for the vast majority, the perceived ''normal'' route of electing isn't followed.

      danie.strydom.7 - 2012-09-27 09:37

      @ stalingcina Thanks for proving my point. If there was never any change, you would still be living in the previous regime. If the majority of voters think like you (most don't think) and continue to vote ANC despite no delivery on election promises, what future do you have? It seems this doesn't bother you. If I were to discuss racism here, the last political party that should have anything to say about it would be the ANC my friend. This is the core of the problem in South Africa. Despite all the years you self governed before the Europeans came, your forefathers couldn't even think of inventing something like a wheel. So forget your hate of the past issues, and move on. If you can't muster enough intelligence to see the validity of the point I raise, move to Zimbabwe to experience South Africa 10 years from now.

  • teddy.beer.319 - 2012-09-27 01:43

    For where the carcass is, there will the vultures gathered together. Mangaung will be like a feeding frenzy of vultures. Whoever doesn't get his fill there will be starving for the next four years.

  • juannepierre - 2012-09-27 01:47

    But it is kultur!!!

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-27 07:11

      Ekskuus tog, maar jy praat k***k

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-09-27 02:21

    Singing dancing ANC clowns !! Makes me sick to watch these idiots !!

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-27 06:56

      Gatsheni, musa ukwethukana nsizwa yakithi. I also rush to the bathroom to puke too, especially when I see the former goatherderZuma's face on tv screen. Our people are idiots. How else do you explain the fact that they keep voting for the same government that is screwing them causing them to toyi-toyi every flipping month? Sorry dude, swearing is not going to change the fact that some see such behaviour as pure idiocy

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-27 07:05

      Boya benyathi, have you ever seen any of Zuma's busload of children toyi-toying? No? They drive X5s and live in mansions because he takes good care of them, using our taxes and votes which our idiot brothers give to him while he gives them the middle finger. Eish, here is Zuma again on tv reading a speech written by Matthews Phosa. I'm sure he is going wipe his big bottoms with it afterwards and carry on channelling tenders to his children. This is beyond disgusting. Excuse me while I go to the bathroom to puke

  • devon.riley.52 - 2012-09-27 02:33

    Don't think much of these students at Wits if they actually come and listen this mindless blabber

      mmotsamai - 2012-09-27 03:29

      thats where u have it wrong, its youth league suporters, they are not from wits

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-09-27 04:17

      @Devon, anyone who talk about economic freedom is a mindless blabber to you, who are you, why are you so afraid, now come on man, dont be a sorry lonely ass.

      nerasmus1 - 2012-09-27 05:13

      khethu ndlovu: Economic Freedom is a phrase that's been flying all over lately but what, in your own words, does being economically free mean to you? I'm just asking, not being sarcastic or anything.

  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-09-27 03:17

    What happened with the 1st transition? How far/close did we come? 2nd transition will be meaningless if the same incompetent leadership responsible for the government's failure in the past 18 years is re elected. It is about time incompetent leadership is done away with. If any minister/manager did not meet their KPI, Fire them don't redeploy please. I am wondering what the minister of basic education is still doing in her post.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-27 05:46

      There never was talk of the “first transition.” The “second transition” is a phrase coined by that master thief Tony Yengeni merely to justify giving the Head Thief Zuma a “second” term in office to screw SA for another 5 years. Fiks is also now using it to guarantee his ticket back in the gravy train. Guys spread the word around wherever you have influence, especially among our relatives, friends, etc in the township. Vote to save SA! Vote against the anc thieves and for any other party as long as it is not giving these scumbags another licence to push SA closer to Zimbabwe!!!

  • duma.nkabinde - 2012-09-27 05:22

    Malcom X said it\stop singing and start swinging\

  • blip.noodlum - 2012-09-27 05:25

    Actually, Fikile "Second Transition" is not a journey and nor is it a process. It's not a plan either. It's just a slogan. As empty and as airy-fairy as "a better life for all". Empty words. Hollow promises of nothing much.

      Nwabisa Makrila-skwati Makwati - 2012-09-27 07:09

      well said comrade...

  • Johannes Bothma - 2012-09-27 05:38

    Nationalize the mines and economic freedom in 1 sentence? Keep the masses poor and uneducated,thats how u get them 2 vote again & again!

  • lionel.defrontignac - 2012-09-27 05:53

    The "Second Transition" reminds me of when they try to re-market a washing powder: "New and Improved", but it's the same old soap suds...

      gabriel.miranzi - 2012-09-27 10:31

      lmao lol lol lol te hee

  • chris.phago - 2012-09-27 06:03

    Good comment by comrade Fikile Mbalula'we must not fear anybody when we speak about our future.As 4 SACP they will fail to hijack our movement cos they have got agendas in the ANC.As a carrying card member of ANCYL we r not going to retreat.Mr Zuma is dividing our organization into 2,so we must topple him @ African National Congress conference that will took place later this year.I don't like SACP in our organization cos is a divider.

      thando.ramncwana - 2012-09-27 07:31

      As a ANCYL card carrying member Im appalled @ your comments that 'you dont like the SACP...'your revolutionary grounding is a bit shaky cadre.....this alliance is NOT about 'feelings' rather a strategic co-operation between the ANC and SACP. FYI Zuma isnt dividing the ANC, but the members who are hellbent on money laundering.

      Nwabisa Makrila-skwati Makwati - 2012-09-27 07:41

      I totally agree with u Nzimande is now swimming in a jam coz Zuma knew how important is the ally backup bt what kills me is tht Nzimande totally dont have a clue of how to run the Education department of which that is the most important key to success.so who is fooling who?

  • mshiniboys - 2012-09-27 06:20

    I have always been suprised to hear people sing old songs like De Klerk must free Mandela and siging about Kanyamazane and freedom guns.It sounded like the 90s to me.How do you sing a song that you depics you as an oppressed someone when you are the govenment.sad sometimes but what can you do.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-27 06:39

      It's like singing ”Dubul' ibhunu!” And “Awuleth' umshini wam!” What do people want to shoot the boer for now that the boer is no longer oppressing them, or bring the machine gun, to do what? Our people are deliberately kept in struggle mode as if they are still not free from racial oppression. This enables the ruling thieves to forgwt about delivery and amass wealth while our people toyi-toying and being told apartheid is to blame. So use your vote wisely mfowethu.

      mshiniboys - 2012-09-27 06:50

      Hehehe sometimes you wonder if some people really believe Mandela is still behind bars and Oliver Tambo is going to really talk to Botha and tell him to free Mandela.enough for following blindly now.we need a new era.

  • vincent.vinsaint - 2012-09-27 06:28

    Defending Zuma prior Polokwane and after is living proof that An@l sex causes unwanted pregnancy! As to you Com Fikile...have your debates in Parliament and we will interpret those to songs of revolution. SES'FIKILE-S'FIKILE MASKHOS'? YEBO!

  • simon.mwando - 2012-09-27 06:46

    Politics

  • sj.fourie.56 - 2012-09-27 06:47

    Typical of these fools to always use apartheid as a lousy xcuse. Ur so called people hav proven they cannot behave civilised like human beings. Always gotta break everything down. Plunder. Steal. Kill. Rape. Some of these youths want work. What work if ur behaving like an animal or if ur uneducated. Dont blame apartheid for ur stupidity. Blame the leaders u elected. Lamola. Malema. Shivambu. Watch ur backs.

      Manduleli Rotherham Mtyoki - 2012-09-27 07:02

      Fourie u just a racist bastard who really doesn't know why he leaves in South Africa. Get it in ur dump mind tha the black man is in charge and the ANC will rule this world till u die. Keep on mourning!

      Munukha - 2012-09-27 07:09

      Stupidity its what you are thinking cause you still think blacks are the once not educated or may be you are ignorant to remember the sunday rapist as a black man for your information there is nothing you can do even if lamola , shivambu and the president of the ANC youth LEAGUE don't watch their backs you just a fool who think you can pose a threat to those guy and as from now you are the one who is surpose to watch yours

      Munukha - 2012-09-27 07:10

      Stupidity its what you are thinking cause you still think blacks are the once not educated or may be you are ignorant to remember the sunday rapist as a black man for your information there is nothing you can do even if lamola , shivambu and the president of the ANC youth LEAGUE JUJU MALEMa don't watch their backs you just a fool who think you can pose a threat to those guy and as from now you are the one who is surpose to watch yours

      hash.jadawat - 2012-09-27 07:14

      fourie is not racists he is expressing his view n he can say what he wants too.its called Freedom of speech.also its live not leaves in south africa.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-27 07:15

      Fourie is just a little pile of racist sh***

      elgh.elgh - 2012-09-27 08:19

      Manduleli - You are a classic example of why our country is in such a state. You’re spelling and grammar is also a reflection on our high educational standards. Like they say "Careful what you wish for"

  • niki.wessels - 2012-09-27 06:56

    Two fingers showing support for Zuma? Not the meaning usually attached to the gesture, but I suppose in his case it could be appropriate...

  • hash.jadawat - 2012-09-27 07:05

    rather sing bring back the DEATH PENALTY and we can live with law n order n all live happy.

  • sj.fourie.56 - 2012-09-27 07:09

    Rotherham u dumb black insolent fool. Typical black man. Al u want is wat the white man wants. U cant think for urself. Thats why u got julius n lamola to think n speak for u. Overpopulated. Lol

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-09-27 07:12

    At least the songs and signs are real and happening. 1st transition amounted to nothing...for the people. Guess they assume the same for the 2nd also. Only the corrupt ANC leaders and cadres benefits from these 'transitions'

  • clivegoss - 2012-09-27 07:13

    Sense. Why did it take this long ? "Why we paint paradise and put up a parking lot hey lalay lay la" Big yellow taxi circa 1971

  • sj.fourie.56 - 2012-09-27 07:13

    Lol death penalty would b held each day. Lol. Great idea. Lets start today. Lol. Our jails would b empty quickly.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-27 08:01

      Hey little Boeremag racist piece of sh***, should you not be thinking about how to resuscitate “Operasie Popeye” instead of screaming obscenities on news24? Do you think your Boeremag leiers who are in jail are happy that you are sitting on the internet all day when “Operasie Popeye” needs soldaate to take iot forward :)

  • alf.pop - 2012-09-27 07:20

    I have one question: Since Zipper Zuma became president and we got an influx of semi-literate ministers and government officials, why is it that these guys don't give speeches, but deliver "lectures"? The only subject they can lecture on is corruption!

      lwazi.sibiya.10 - 2012-09-27 07:28

      A semi-literate with MBA(mbalula)

  • thando.ramncwana - 2012-09-27 07:20

    We had a policy conference to determine our future.....we will have the elective conference to endose those policies. Songs are just catalysts......we dont want leaders who perseive money laundering as serious offences!!

  • pule.lesego.3 - 2012-09-27 07:21

    Yesterday while I was offering Eng Maths class I guided students with corruptions and frauds within ANC,and they say they better vote ANC though it is corrupted than voting DA.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-27 07:23

      Your stupidity rubbed on them.

      sphala - 2012-09-27 07:34

      Mxm....imbecile, cogitate guys come on!!!

  • nico.leroux1 - 2012-09-27 07:33

    Oh! You mean like Kill the Farmer Kill the Boer!! How does it feel when people sing these songs to you!

      Ndifon Vega - 2012-09-27 08:12

      those songs keep Africans awake,I dont see any reasons why those songs shouldnt be sang bcoz there is no country without history

  • sphala - 2012-09-27 07:41

    I quote: That is why we don't know what our future is.....think Comrades.

  • Nwabisa Makrila-skwati Makwati - 2012-09-27 07:49

    We need change Mr Mbalula thats a fact,singing liberation songs why is now becoming huge problem in SA if tht was the way of giving clue of what is happening within our ANC structures let it be...i still see Zuma being greedy to still want the second term after everything tht has happened in his leadership or he is still intending of getting another number of wives?

  • liz.rudy.3 - 2012-09-27 09:38

    I do not agree with nationalisation of mines, however, I strongly agree with the concept of economic freedom. Compare the salary of the lowest paid member of a company to that of the CEO for example. R 30 000.00 per year (guestimate) for the lowest paid, and the CEO probably earns three times as much per month. That is the crux of the matter, the huge salary disparities. It happens in all sectors.

      gabriel.miranzi - 2012-09-27 10:38

      i totally agree with you.Its a fact though that he who works the hardest gets paid the least.No wonder we now have this Marikana debacle on our hands. The economic desparity is way too much..im for transformation but i believe its the way it should be done. Sadly politicians are using it to thier advantage to amass popularity and votes.

  • gabriel.miranzi - 2012-09-27 10:28

    I am for transformation, but how will it be done?Nationalisation of mines or Affirmative action?Im for the latter!, its less chaotic

  • mbulelo.somzana - 2012-09-27 18:49

    Mbalula tired of singing 'umshini wam' ha ha haaa

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