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Media biased over protest - Cosatu

2012-05-16 12:11

Johannesburg - Cosatu's actions outside its headquarters during a DA march in Johannesburg were inaccurately portrayed by the media, the trade union federation's president said on Wednesday.

"Cosatu was portrayed as beating the DA, which was not the case. Bricks were loaded into a truck and used against our members," Sidumo Dlamini claimed at Cosatu's International Policy Conference in Kempton Park.

Democratic Alliance and Congress of SA Trade Unions members clashed in Braamfontein on Tuesday, during the opposition party's march in support of a youth wage subsidy.

The DA had a right to air its views, but Cosatu had the right to defend its own views, he said.

Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi was expected to address the meeting later on Wednesday.

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Comments
  • Bob - 2012-05-16 12:18

    You union ouks think the whole world is stupid...wake up man...!!!!!

      Sean - 2012-05-16 14:18

      There supporters are f@cken stupid !!

      Press - 2012-05-16 15:01

      COSATU promised violence and they delivered violence !!!!!

      Alan - 2012-05-16 15:50

      eish - when Vavi speaks it is usually Violens...

      goyougoodthing - 2012-05-16 15:53

      Like their ANC brothers all they can do is LIE

  • gustav.harmse - 2012-05-16 12:20

    How do you know a cosatu member is lying his mouth is open

  • Carry - 2012-05-16 12:20

    FIRST COSATU SAY THAT THE HOSTILITIES AGAINST THE PROTESTING DA MEMBERS WERE ASKED FOR ............ AND NOW IT WAS NOT YOU. WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP !!!

      Sharon - 2012-05-16 13:12

      @ Carry - they are slowly realising some important things: The violence was not welcomed as they thought it would be, Their support base is not as strong as they assumed and Reviewing the footage they realised exactly how it must look to the rest of the world, that they acted like a bunch of hooligans, attacking a peaceful protest. I believe they are doing what they think is "damage control"

      MagdaKus - 2012-05-16 13:29

      Well put Carry- I think this practically sums it up. Although the COSATU spokesperson on CapeTalk this morning was a hoot too (if one is into people raving senselessly on the radio).

      Alan - 2012-05-16 13:48

      Spot on Sharon. A prety useless attempt at damage control at that. And they are making matters worse by first saying one thing, and now changing their tune.

  • John - 2012-05-16 12:22

    I very much doubt that the DA would have "ammunition" trucks as they would lose all political credibility if this were true. When one looks at what has happenned during Cosatu and other Union organised marches, I can believe that they had stockpiled rocks/stones/concrete blocks.

      MagdaKus - 2012-05-16 13:32

      True... also...up till this point many of us did not suspect COSATU leadership of such vivid imagination... pity it is not used for finding solutions that work...

  • Bruce - 2012-05-16 12:25

    Defend your views with bricks!?

      Alan - 2012-05-16 13:49

      eish - the building blocks of a nation.

  • Peter - 2012-05-16 12:26

    Let's talk about Cosatu's legality of the march before the alleged "truck with load of bricks/stones"

  • Keith - 2012-05-16 12:27

    Shut up Vavi man really. Where's your proof more drivel out of COSATU. Lets hope they do a proper full investigation and it shows what really happened.

  • Dennis - 2012-05-16 12:28

    So typical, now we play the blame game. What was Cosatu doing there in the first place. They had no right to launch a counter protest. And were the police so unprepared, or were they paid by Cosatu to stand back and watch. Anyway what does it matter, we now know purely by their actions that Cosatu has no concern for the people they so called represent. Sad hey when you think how many members blindly pay membership for this kind of publicity.If this is a sign of things to come then heaven help this wonderful country. Gradually we will see the exodus once again, this time anybody who wants to live peacefully.Sic really Sic

  • sabongam - 2012-05-16 12:32

    This was just so unnecessary...I'm not a DA fan but I just find no justification for Cosatu's violent action...From what we saw on telly Cosatu could have accepted the memorandum...It was just a march which is something Cosatu is familiar with. If they march they do not expect violence by people/organisation/govt dept. they are marching on...As an organisation which promotes democracy they should know better. I don't think that the DA marched there with intention to promote violence but rather to hand over the memorandum and air their views.Isn't that what democracy is about. To be tolerant and accept other people's views even if you don't agree with them?This was not the solution as the DA has as much right to a legitimate and lawful march as everyone else just like Cosatu...Fair is fair and the truth is the truth.

  • Sharon - 2012-05-16 12:34

    Hellooooooo there was footage!!!!!!!! I saw it on tv, and the ones throwing the rocks had RED shirts on. Is that a clue?

      MagdaKus - 2012-05-16 13:34

      Yup- but we're supposed to be colourblind ;-)

      Alan - 2012-05-16 13:43

      exactly! Very convenient to ignore the fact that cosatu clowns started the aggression. Sorry for you cosatu - you did yourselves a lot of damage yesterday, and whining with a lot of lies isnt going to change the minds of people who saw the footage! maaifoedies.

      Vicker - 2012-05-16 14:59

      Ja eish man wena - the footage she was tekken out of context...

  • Israel - 2012-05-16 12:34

    How the hell were these Marches approved for the same day..........this does n't make sense. U cannot put a mouse and a cat at the same hole.

      Deon - 2012-05-16 12:40

      They were not, Cosatu did not apply to march.

      Sharon - 2012-05-16 12:40

      Um, Muzi, the DA's march was indeed approved - Cosatu's was not, but that did not stop them gatecrashing! They acted just like the bullies they are.

      Keith - 2012-05-16 12:41

      The COSATU members were marching illegally. It amazes me how a crown of COSATU members can gather impromptu don't whey work? Rent a crowd maybe?

      sven.gohre - 2012-05-16 12:43

      Muzi, only the DA's march was approved, COSATU's was an illegal gathering, therefore the DA should SUE the pants of COSATU and have a few of the rabble rousing leaders put in jail for intimidation and advocating assault with intent to do serious bodily harm.

      Press - 2012-05-16 14:24

      @Kieth - could also be that COSATU is a de facto labour broker in the rent-a-crowd bussines

  • IcemanGP - 2012-05-16 12:36

    Yeah rite, I believe you. Pull the other one.

  • Neville - 2012-05-16 12:37

    The ANC and their cronnies Cosatu think they are untouchable everything they want to settle is with violence and that is their democratic right, other organisations must just accept their bully tactics, and still they want to know why certian people don't vote for them, NEVER

  • Themba - 2012-05-16 12:37

    COSATU = Hooliganism = Intolerance. Whenever they match, there is bound to be chaos and mayhem. Zero understanding of constitutional rights.

      Wally Walters - 2012-05-16 12:49

      It just shows that ANc and cusato cannot do anything right without violence: they cannot handle success they got no clue how to be successful. they so dearly want WC; to distroy it like other provinces.It Sucks

  • SaffaSeun - 2012-05-16 12:39

    Hahaha! I must say.. and honestly, I really do mean this in the kindest possible way..I have many black friends who on reading this have dropped their heads in shame and said to me that they feel ashamed to be made out like totally dumb, ignorant fools.. do they honestly believe the people of the country would believe such drivel? Oh my word.. this is the word STUPID in its purest form. One can only shake your head in disbelief..

  • Matthew - 2012-05-16 12:41

    Cosatu had absolutely NO RIGHT whatsoever,at being there in the first place so any other tight they feel they to "justify" them being there for one,and for their actions secondly. This union and cosatu of full of Bullcr#p. they cant take it that they've been caught red handed acting like cavemen. Lets see the evidence of these bricks. Where oh where are they? video's,photo's? and even then i would demand that they be tested for fakes! cause knowing cosatu,the union and even the anc,it wouldnt surprise me.

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-05-16 12:45

    Yes COSATU it was biased, there was not enough footage of you lot acting like a bunch of Greek hooligans..

      Heidi - 2012-05-16 18:14

      Greeks don't do that.... Yes, there's been a few incidents in Athens, but they get donnered by the cops, and it's MILD compared to the protests in South Africa... Atleast here if they trash the trash cans, it get's picked up the next morning. It doesnt stay on the sidewalks to rot for months. I miss my home, but i'm glad I got out when I did. It all seems to be going down the toilet now....

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2012-05-16 12:47

    One simple question. Why did COSATO not wait for the handing of the memorandum sign it and address the people by saying that they will forward it to their board/management/council. End of story. Is that not what they accept all companies or gov. departments to do. Will it be appropriate if the companies now also start rebelling against them with violence to "protect" their property? Is companies not also private institutions with their own rules and point of view when COSATO march to them? Why "protect" something when it is not under attack? Why command members up to "protect" their offices when the only requirement was that some-one receive the memorandum? I believe the COSATO "Investment" company wants to have the only right to march. It cant afford opposition because its members/milk cows must be "protected" at all cost to ensure their steady income to be able to keep power/political as well as union and keep up the leaders royal life style. It sounds like just any other big business to me withe the difference that those business uses the law and court while COSATO uses a race card and violence. As a pro union supporter I am shocked of the level these uniontrepeneurs handled the issue. Shame on you Cosato for using and miss inform your own members/milk cows!!!!

      Wally Walters - 2012-05-16 12:54

      The anc is destroying themselfs like malema let cusato do the dirty job. its working

      willybegood - 2012-05-16 13:32

      troll alert!!

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-05-16 14:04

      ...This is not a race .....Sorry for skipping the "not"

      Alan - 2012-05-16 14:04

      you are a Pro Union supporter? why is that?

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-05-16 14:12

      Please ignore my "not" comment. Suddenly Alfred's trolling response on mine as well as my response on his vanished and the mistake was in my last response, but being the truth the response suddenly "vanished".

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-05-16 14:25

      @ Allen. I believe unions can be good in the working society and I was one, if not the main person, to get an additional union in into a big company in SA. The reason for that was that the company was misusing a part of the employees. It was still in the 90"s when your "black" unions was striking and the white employees were put under pressure to do all the work with unreasonable extended hours at hardly no compensation. We then unionized the white and some black workers that was not and the company could not play the workers off against each other. My last words to the "black" union leader, who I befriended through the years, was that one day these two unions will work together to stop the unnecessary "play" of the company. He contacted me a year later and told me they now work together and where the one think the other is unrealistic they allowed that union to continue work and they do it with respect for each other's point of view. The long and the short is that the company sorted their own nonsense out and do not have as many major labor problems as they had before. Unions can work for fairness. Thats the reason for my "pro union supporter" statement. If I use the wrong grammar I do apologize, but now you know.

      Alan - 2012-05-16 14:40

      Thanks DuToit - interesting. Perhaps the main problem is with Unions that are more self serving (like Cosatu) than member serving. I definately take your point about some companies who definately do exploit workers. On the other hand - we also have a huge mentality in this country of 'gimme something for nothing', and we probably have (ingeneral) one of the most lazy and unproductive workforces in the world. No easy solution, but education and a good 'work ethic' would go a long way.

  • Andrew - 2012-05-16 12:48

    BHloody bunch of liers they all are as we all know!!! We are not blind. Send that Communist Craven back to where he bleongs. Nothing but a typical lying communist that no longer had any place in the UK.

  • Hudayfah - 2012-05-16 12:49

    Wait, hold on, are you telling me after justifying it you're going to deny it? Well i'll be . . . You're like a man wipping his a## before taking a dump

  • Herman - 2012-05-16 12:51

    cosatu is learning from malema to make the dumbest statements ever.....how can these guys be so bloody pathetic???

  • Johan - 2012-05-16 12:52

    COSATU is really trying to score political points from this. They planned and prepared this action with precision. They are now using this to yet again blame the "white elite" and brainwash their supporters to play the man, rather focus on the real issue of unemployment.

      Wally Walters - 2012-05-16 13:05

      I think the DA is more intelligent than to use a truck load of bricks to defend themself

      Johan - 2012-05-16 13:11

      That I agree with Eugene. Cosatu planned this "counter - action" to score political points and play the victim card to it's members.

  • Hannes - 2012-05-16 13:03

    One Question Cosato..... why is there no pictures of any Cosato members injured but only the DA??? make it two... why is there only pictures of Cosato members with bricks an not the DA??

  • Jane - 2012-05-16 13:04

    COSATU's members are completely out of control. I have had the misfortune of being caught in one of their protests in Cape Town when I had to go into the City Centre for a meeting. Traffic came to a standstill as they ran through the streets, overturning dirt bins and setting papers on fire in the middle of the roads. Drivers were intimidated as they ran between our cars and banged on our windows. The police were completely useless in trying to control the protesters. Even the poor vendor’s stalls were looted. Their behaviour is an absolute embarrassment to the country.

      Hester - 2012-05-16 14:21

      Amen!!!

  • mastermindpete - 2012-05-16 13:09

    Whaaa haaa haaaa haaaa = comedy statement of the week !!!! Useless ANC-pf COSATU at it's best.

  • chiepner - 2012-05-16 13:13

    REALLY COSATU......REALLY!?!? Do you honestly think we should believe that crap. Let me ask you this. When you summoned your legion to "protect" your little space in down town Braamfontein did you not think that this might be confrontational. When people marched against your point of view would it not of been better and bigger for you to accept their memorandum or what ever and then respond to it with your arguments? Yet you choose to instruct your minions to storm down onto a peace full march which is every South Africans right and then proceed to intimidate and attack them? It is strange how those who claim to be the custodians of the poor and working class used the exact tactics and methods of confrontation that was used not so long ago by an apartheid era government. Remember the AWB storming a confrence centre some time ago because they did not agree with other? I am now just wondering - what is so diffrent from what these people did to what you displayed YOUR ORG stands for yesterday? Not much come to think of it. I am dissapointed in the total lack of leadership and respect COSATU has shown towards other South Africans. It seems more and more that you COSATU has become nothing more than another little pawn in governments arsenal. Pity - and I personally was just starting to believe in you.

  • jaco.fridaystreet - 2012-05-16 13:17

    Cosatu has been showed up for what they are: A bunch of voilent, undemocratic croocks festering in their mafia-allianced cesspool. Show me one strike over the past 10 years where a Cosatu strike has not resulted in voilence and distruction. And yesterday the DA held a legally approved protest while the Cosatu mob organised an illegal counter protest and in true fashion, used violence. Cosatu must be held accountable. They were totally out of order ande cannot now blame that ever so handy scapegoat, the media. Cosatu is and now has been again, totally discredited.

  • Alasdair - 2012-05-16 13:18

    What drugs is this guy on!

  • Nicky - 2012-05-16 13:23

    Not only are these cowards to DOF to take accountability for their members actions, but now they claim to be the victims... the article states "the DA had the right to air their views, & Cosatu had the right to defend theirs" - granted, but surely the right thing to do is to let the DA do their thing, & then afterwards defend whatever the outcome may or may not have been by (1) planning a Cosatu march, (2) write a letter to the DA, whatever, but NOT by preventing them from doing what they had legally applied for, and acting like prehistoric cavemen!

      Nigel - 2012-05-16 13:55

      This is not the way of the barbaric savage Nicky - their thought process, when they have one, is very third world.

  • Dale - 2012-05-16 13:24

    with our "bricks" we will liberate this country!!! ha ha !!! clutching at straws I mean stones I mean - ah whatever - just another "politically gone wrong" day in this beautiful country ! The Rhinos must be worried that we are the people that are going to protect them ......

      Alan - 2012-05-16 13:59

      the anc/cosatu/ancyl will be extinct long before the rhinos, at the rate they are carrying on.

  • keith.ngobeni - 2012-05-16 13:25

    Sidumo dlamini your stomach is full with a well grilled chicken licken meal and you digested with a chilled ice coca-cola while your supporters and followers had a quarter of brown bread digested with tap water, how does that makes you feel no wonder you're farting from your mouth not your back side.

      Alan - 2012-05-16 13:59

      Eish - that's the Cosatu Klippies and Coke diet!! whaahaa

  • ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-16 13:26

    wow cosatu its official, you really are stupid, no wait, AS THICK AS FREAKING MUD

  • brionyl.french - 2012-05-16 13:26

    boo hoo... the proof is in all the photography and film they got.... Cosatu you were caught with your pants down..... now apologise and make it right.

  • Faizie - 2012-05-16 13:27

    People in glass houses shouldnt throw ???? oh yes STONES

  • ian.levinson.7 - 2012-05-16 13:28

    @alfrud, get back to junior woodwork class TROLL

  • masana.kinnsell - 2012-05-16 13:29

    I agree wit dlamini here, all poweful media house in this country are owned by white capitalist monopoly who supports and fund the DA. They cant depict their investment as been violet, they want this policy to be passed so thy can cash in on da 5billion budged allocated. And cosatu is da only organisation who is stopping this cash follow.

      willybegood - 2012-05-16 13:45

      Seriously!? How about some facts @masana.kinnsell How about you show these N24 posters the evidence of your statement. Pray do tell how will the media/white capitalist monopoly cash in on the 5Billion allocation? Will they employ the youth (mainly black), take the subsidy and not pay them? Will they employ the youth and within the ambit (google it) of our present labour legislation fire all the older workers? Come on now, surely you have some proof of your claims. Waiting..................................

      Nigel - 2012-05-16 14:19

      A manifestation of pure ignorance. Shame

  • Gavin - 2012-05-16 13:33

    what were the red shirted gestapo members doing there in the first place ? i was a fan of Vavi as he struck me (not with a brick) as a man of honor and conviction - then I heard him whining on the radio about bias this bias that. you and your thug union will get your due.

      Alan - 2012-05-16 14:07

      yeah - a little while ago I was starting to like Vavi on some issues (lke toll roads) - but his true colours have now come shining through!

      jaco.fridaystreet - 2012-05-16 16:12

      Yep, he's a magician, Vavi. But has always been a fool yet quite adept at playing his cards well even to the detriment of the millions of unemployed people because they cannot pay their dues and therefore there's no money to be made. Don't trust him, don't give him credit. He's a sly operator just looking after himself and his pals in the union movement who get their salaries from the dues paid by the employed. Pure and simple Stazi-ism.

  • Erna - 2012-05-16 13:34

    Always this lousy media that does not report correctly! Shame on you.

      khunjulwa.pilane - 2012-05-16 14:04

      I was there i saw the 1st rocks being thrown

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-05-16 14:46

      Did the DA retaliate? If so, where did they get the rocks/bricks from? Did they carry their own stones on the truck as Cosatu alleges?

  • Marie - 2012-05-16 13:39

    In news reports it stated that Cosatu was sprayed with tear gas and water canons. Police biased?

      Alan - 2012-05-16 14:07

      apparently the smell was pretty bad....

  • Erna - 2012-05-16 13:40

    I know who's going to be Mampara of the Week in the Sunday Times this week!

      Alan - 2012-05-16 13:52

      umm umm hmm umm umm gimme a clue...... Start with a V?

      Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-16 14:20

      O thanks for the clue...... Must be aaaaasasss vavi

      Alan - 2012-05-16 14:41

      Give that man a Bells!

  • Michelle Dauncey Jackson - 2012-05-16 13:51

    Is this the same Cosatu that does (not) support violent strikes and yet fails to sanction it's members? Who are we supposed to believe... The traditionally violent Cosatu?

      Alan - 2012-05-16 14:01

      Surely you are not implying that Vavi and Co. are just Hot Air Michelle?

  • David - 2012-05-16 13:51

    I should of gone to that thing ... DA All the way

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-05-16 14:04

    I heard many Cosatu and DA supporters and neutrals call in to radio talk shows to debate this issue. And I have to say that the Cosatu supporters do no come out smelling of roses. They are generally grossly arrogant and instead of debating the merits or not of the wage subsidy, they wallowed in personal attacks against Zille, big business and whites in general. And then I heard and read comments from Craven and Vavi and I understand the stubborn stance of their members. I hope that the Cosatu heirachy understands that their stance against the wage subsidy may be hurting their very followers. Perhaps they like it that way. As we witnessed yesterday, it pays to have a huge following of poor, uneducated, unemployed and angry people. In their desperate positions, they would resort to such intimidation against right-minded individuals and opposition parties. What better way to keep the alliance in power?

      Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-16 14:17

      Yip you are right. The youth in a few years isn't youth any more.

      Alan - 2012-05-16 14:42

      why - Juju never got old.

      Press - 2012-05-16 15:08

      Dont joke with Juju just b'cause he is a slow developer . .

      Alan - 2012-05-16 15:29

      a rough diamond you mean!!! lmml

  • bryan.culross - 2012-05-16 14:07

    Cosatu had the right to defend their views - Agreed completely - but in a responsible manner that is in compliance with the law - in this regard they had NO legal right to have staged a protest on Tuesday - they could hve applied to stage one at another time

  • manie.vanwyk.12 - 2012-05-16 14:10

    THE POLICE did't do there work. Illigel strikers shoud'f lock up. simple!!

  • Roy - 2012-05-16 14:12

    @ Msika - Perhaps because the media was scared of the Cosatu savages. People need to understand that not everything comes down to race, bias, a conspiracy theory, plotting etc - these are the tactics used by government and others to try deflect negative attention. Its a defense mechanism for when they know they're wrong or don't know the answer - blame someone else!! Msika, rather than shout "bias" for much the same reasons I've mentioned above - could you please enlighten us as to how many of your supporters were injured in this debacle? Perhaps one who dropped the brick on his foot before he hurled it?

  • Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-16 14:12

    You damn right they biased. Last night it looked like vavi had a march. What the bloody hell is going on.

  • Louis - 2012-05-16 14:13

    I find it extraordinary that neither the ANC nor Cosatu ever shoulder the blame for anything that they do wrong - it is ALWAYS the fault of others, apartheid, or whatever other crap they can dream up. The worst is that we are debating this once again in stead of telling Cosatu that we as citizens in this country are not blind idiots that believe the rubbish they profess to be the truth.

  • Hester - 2012-05-16 14:16

    If Cosatu wants to lie it's their business but makes me furious is the fact that they think intelligent and not so intelligent people will believe them. Most of us are not that stupid like your followers Vavi.

  • Rob - 2012-05-16 14:40

    I would think that the DA planners did consider the possibility that things would turn out as they have; they seem to have a strategic planning capability. Perhaps the DA felt that whatever happened it would be to their benefit, they certainly seem to have gained some advantage. COSATU's responses gain in volume what they lack in credibility, so that too seems to be to the DA's tactical advantage. No one was seriously injured (depending on what is meant by seriously). Conclusion, a great success for liberal democracy and a bad smell for those that do not respect individual freedom and rights.

      Rob - 2012-05-16 15:19

      As a rider to my comment.....my interpretation is that the DA disengaged in order to minimise the threat to people and property. Anyone who sees this incident in terms of defeat, battle or any other agressive perspective really is contributing to the disease that is negatively affecting SA politics.