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Midnight deadline for Malema

2012-04-18 14:39

Johannesburg - Lawyers for three ANC Youth League leaders have until midnight on Wednesday to file written heads of argument to the ANC appeals committee, party spokesperson Keith Khoza said.

Khoza said by late morning he did not know if the papers had been filed.

ANCYL president Julius Malema, spokesperson Floyd Shivambu and secretary general Sindiso Magaqa were scheduled to submit their appeal presentations to the national disciplinary committee of appeal (NDCA) last week, but asked for the hearing to be postponed because their lawyer was not available. They also asked for a new lawyer.

NDCA chairperson Cyril Ramaphosa said at the time the committee agreed to postpone the hearing so the new lawyer, advocate Muzi Sikhakhane, could familiarise himself with the matter.

"The NDCA agreed to postpone the hearing with a proviso that the new legal representative will submit the appellants' heads of argument by April 18 in writing," Ramaphosa said.

The African National Congress was expected to submit its written heads of argument on Friday.

Written submissions

Ramaphosa said both parties had agreed the appeal would proceed through written submissions rather than an oral hearing.

"Upon receiving the written submissions the NDCA will sit and consider these and take a decision. Once a decision is taken a public announcement will be made in line with the directives of the ANC constitution," he said.

Malema was expelled from the ANC in November 2011 for sowing division in the party and for bringing it into disrepute. He was found to have done so by unfavourably comparing the leadership style of President Jacob Zuma to that of former president Thabo Mbeki, and for remarks about bringing about regime change in Botswana.

Despite the expulsion Malema remained ANCYL president until all options to overturn his sentence had been exhausted.

However, he was gagged last week when the ANC's national disciplinary committee suspended him from the ANC after calling Zuma a dictator. The conditions of the suspension prohibit him from exercising any duty as an ANC member, president of the ANCYL or member of the Limpopo provincial executive committee.

On Tuesday, the NDCA dismissed Malema's bid to have his temporary suspension from the ANC in this matter set aside.

The two disciplinary proceedings were separate.

Shivambu was also found guilty of sowing division and bringing the ANC into disrepute. He was suspended from the ANC for three years for swearing at a journalist and for issuing a statement calling for a change of government in Botswana.

Magaqa was suspended for three years for making derogatory remarks about Public Enterprises Minister Malusi Gigaba.

This was suspended for three years on condition that he apologise to Gigaba within 15 days. Magaqa apologised to Gigaba, in a statement sent to the media on March 10.

Comments
  • Saffa - 2012-04-18 14:45

    Hasn't his appeal been denied already?!

      rynhardt.ferreira - 2012-04-18 14:53

      This clown will never be suspended. If they wanted him gone he would have been gone already!!! Im so sick of this!!

      Trevor - 2012-04-18 14:53

      I thought so too. This is very confusing.

      Sean - 2012-04-18 14:54

      When is this sh@t going to end , just get rid of fatboy !!!!

      Lawless Thug - 2012-04-18 14:54

      The word appeal being turned down has a whole different meaning in ANC language than what the Oxford Dictionary says it is. As a matter of fact, just about everything the ANC touches is interpreted in a whole new way. We are now on our own planet and will soon get our own sun, moon and stars. On this planet the word "appeal" means.......to piss off older stupid people and confuse politics with kindergarten games.

      Muzi - 2012-04-18 15:12

      The appeal on the second suspension (the latest gagging for Zuma is a Dick-tator) was denied..... The original long process is still going ahead as per the constitutional requirements and is at its final stage.

      Anthony - 2012-04-18 15:28

      her midnight past long ago....

      Bob - 2012-04-18 15:45

      I was waiting for the appeal aginst the appeal for the previous appeal, just wondering how many appeals does one get, this has to be a world record.

      Christelle - 2012-04-18 18:31

      And all of this is costing the taxpayers money - depleting government funds (amongst the other unauthorised spending, stealing etc) for job creation, essential services and the list goes on and on. And the people that need jobs and all the essentials to lead a sustainable life, will still vote for the ANC

      Phuti - 2012-04-18 20:04

      Zuma has to b recalled like Mbeki because he is not a leader that we need in the country.Promiscuity in our country is bad cause HIV is out of contro.Wht kind of a message is he sending to the masses.we have a crisis already .

      John - 2012-04-19 06:57

      @Bob, he's giving all of them a_peal now.LMFAO The NDCA and chairperson Cyril Ramaphosa are a laugh a minute. I'm telling you they are all S%^t scared of him. This ain't ever going to end!

  • Wimpie.Haefele - 2012-04-18 14:52

    You are the weakest link GOOD BYE!!!

      J-Man - 2012-04-18 15:19

      Apparently not. :/

  • martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-04-18 14:52

    Midnight! Is he allowed to stay up that late on a school night? He is youth, he should be in bed by 10pm the latest!!

  • Thebe - 2012-04-18 14:52

    I am starting to think that the ANC is enjoying all this back and forth nonsense.

      Mark - 2012-04-18 15:04

      Its a tactic they use to make it seem like they are actually doing something constructive. Plus im sure there must be lots of food and drinks involved whilst they have to think about what to do next

      Gieljam - 2012-04-18 15:53

      Nay Thebe I don't think they know better .I think a toll system (Sanral alecarte)must be put place for the hole bunch for the running "Forwards" and backwards between never ending story hearings,of which the earnings should and must go to the poor ( because the lottery system is just as useless)gg

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-04-21 19:25

      WHO is paying for all these APPEALS? WHY do they not settle this once and for all......something fishy

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-04-18 15:00

    This whole disciplinary process has done nothing but amputate Malema's soul , and there is no prosthetic for that .

  • Chris - 2012-04-18 15:02

    I've heard a rumour he's leaving the youth league to join Khulubuse Zuma in the ANC Fat League.

  • Phumi - 2012-04-18 15:03

    The only people who have a deadline are those who keep on perscecuting a man who speaks for the voiceless. Those who keep on refusing to implement the mandate of the people that was taken in 1955 in Kliptown that says that "'the land of the country and all the mineral wealth beneath it belongs to the people". Time is running out for them! With or without Malema the economic emancipation and land agenda is out of the can and will never go away! Us true revolutionaries we will soldier on and the victory of those who have sold us off will be short-lived!

      Lawless Thug - 2012-04-18 15:11

      You shouldn't use the word revolutionary. It is clear you have no understanding of the concept of revolution. The very precious minerals you are talking about are being sold to the Chinese all over Africa. No kidding you. Every African leader is selling us out to the Chinese. That is what your "revolution" should be about. But instead of worrying about real issues, all I ever read from you are these pathetic comments about stuff that ended some 30 years ago. Grow a brain, go read the economic news of our continent and wake up!

      martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-04-18 15:14

      Please do some research into the cost of mining these minerals you speak of. The government does not have the money to run the mines. The "people" do not have the money to run the mines. The mines pay heavy concession fees and taxes to government for the rights to mine these minerals. The fees and concession money helps, along with our taxes, to run the country. Look at the Aurora mine to see what happens when the government (by association) gets involved in an industry that it knows nothig about. Yes the mines and certain individuals make money from the profits of mining but the cost of mining and creating the end product is astronomic and one which government and the "people" simply cannot afford.

      Gieljam - 2012-04-18 15:18

      Phumi . I don't think for for one minute that someone has a problem if one speaks out for a cause , but the way he wants to resolve issues is tantamount to barbarism and destruction resulting in a Zim situation.

      Dean - 2012-04-18 15:18

      Same rhetoric... Over and over. Yawwwwwnnn. If you want wealth, get a job. And yet you claim to be a "revolutionary" (what a complete joke) and that you'll soldier on, but nothing has changed. You will forever be "soldiering on" until you quit blaming everyone else and make the realisation that you are the architect of your own destruction.

      J-Man - 2012-04-18 15:20

      @ Phumi - for someone who claims to be 'voiceless' you have a pretty big mouth. Also, if this buffoon is the voice of the "voiceless", I feel sorry for them.

      Mtizozo - 2012-04-18 15:49

      It is stupid of you to say that Auroll was run by the govement, It was run by individual busines leaders not the govement.

      Den - 2012-04-18 15:53

      you mean pretend to care for the voiceless, while with the other hand dealing in fraudulant tenders, is this not steeling from the voiceless?

      Elize - 2012-04-18 16:00

      @Phumi I would life to know how all you voiceless poor people are going to mine the minerals that belong to you from underground, O and how are you guys going to decide how to devide it amongst each other??

      infijar.ken - 2012-04-18 23:43

      When did Malema actually ask the "Voiceless" if they wanted him to be their spokesperson? What was the vote?

  • Alan - 2012-04-18 15:16

    why is it confusing - after all, this is the anc you are dealing with è

  • Dennis - 2012-04-18 15:16

    This is how the corrupt ANC clowns operate !! DO NOTHING AND GET PAID !!

      Mtizozo - 2012-04-18 15:50

      You can not say anc are corrupt. But ANC has processes of tabling curruption, which you will never find it in orthe Europian countries.

  • devenjoey.theron - 2012-04-18 15:17

    julius, it seem you have been betrayed. there is an old belief that once you are up there....high in the clouds, the way down, is far...but we will be down here, waiting for you. we will catch you. perhaps you can join us down here. its getting too much high:)

      John - 2012-04-19 07:12

      Theron, sure you not high, good weed there in Rustenburg, Bro

  • Jean - 2012-04-18 15:18

    Dnt give him an extra-time

      Amanda - 2012-04-18 16:16

      yes u right .that malema make me sick.flippen skelm.

  • dee.shabalala - 2012-04-18 15:18

    For this time, we can see that the counter revotunalist in the ANC have their daggers out, economic freedom is possible in our time and you can suspend all the presidents that you want, the voice of the South African youth will live for ever until all land is rightfully given back to the owners and all the wealth is distributed to all those who were disadvantage before, Malema spoke for the voiceless, he is still our president, long live the spirit of consciousness, long live Malema

      Dean - 2012-04-18 15:26

      Please be so kind as to describe to me exactly what "economic freedom" is. Last I checked, everyone was free to lead their lives as they please; to get a job, build up wealth, and purchase land or whatever you would like. Isn't that part of what a democracy is? This whole "land back to it's rightful owners" is a little stale now. Or should that fat pig Juju give back his R16m house to some long-dead khoi-san hmmm?

      Marion - 2012-04-18 15:46

      @dee - I thought the Freedom Charter spoke of 'the people', not only the previously disadvantaged.

      John - 2012-04-19 07:18

      @Dee, there is a very good book out it's called...Economic Freedom for Dummies. The first chapter starts by saying, once you have perfected getting off your ass and working the rest comes EASY!

  • Bob - 2012-04-18 15:20

    The ANC are so complex that they themselves are probably just as confused as most of us! This really smacks of weak leadership, or otherwise a really unnecessary complex procedure…!

      Lawless Thug - 2012-04-18 15:33

      The ANC constitution is not fit to be implemented in a modern democracy. The ANC is now falling apart thanks to its own constitution. It is their own constitution that has allowed this low class bandit from Zimpopo to destroy the image of the party and make the whole lot look like a bunch of clowns. No sane thinking South African can ever vote for a party that has a constitution that is this confusing. Even after this appeal fails, he still has two more chances to appeal to two other bodies within the organisation. What hasn't dawned on any of the ANC leaders yet, is the fact that they have lost all their credibility during the last 7 months. I'm not talking about the rampant corruption. I'm talking about authority and how they implement it.

  • Marion - 2012-04-18 15:25

    "Ramaphosa said both parties had agreed the appeal would proceed through written submissions rather than an oral hearing." Dot your i's and cross your t's NDCA. No loopholes. No more postponements. Pretty please.

  • Biggs - 2012-04-18 15:27

    Hai khona, now he's got new lawyers, what happened with the first one. I guese he must be fed up by his appeal, appeal appeal and appeal. Now his new lawyers want to familiarise with Malema's revolutional and nationalisation

  • Herman - 2012-04-18 15:34

    Malema is the BAAS of anc, they will listen to him and the clowns trying to get rid of him has no backbone to do it or even the knowledge of how to do it. Down with the anc and its useless criminal cronies!

      Lawless Thug - 2012-04-18 15:40

      You are 100% right Herman. He indeed owns the ANC and he has shown them he will hijack them and their own constitution isn't strong enough to help them out of this mess. He has hijacked the ANC! The Youth League will follow him and so will some voters, specially my generation which are mostly unemployed and are lured by the same old revitalised old stale promises of the past.

      Herman - 2012-04-18 15:50

      At the end of the day, Lawless, it will make this country a heap of nothingness like Zim, what a bloody pity.

      Mtizozo - 2012-04-18 15:52

      ANC is in charge, its simple as that. you need to re-do your analysis.

      John - 2012-04-19 07:36

      Herman, correct and as Warlord said earlier, the cANCer is falling apart and they are running scared. Hell man if they wanted to get rid of this fool he would have been long gone by now. Zuma unleashed him against M'beki and now they can't bring him under control, he's a loose cannon now.

  • Den - 2012-04-18 15:51

    i can smell the pork roast already

  • Manford - 2012-04-18 15:52

    the malemaism saga rages oooon

  • Elize - 2012-04-18 15:55

    Remember he has been expelled and suspended (twice) apparently two diferent things.

  • Gieljam - 2012-04-18 15:55

    I think a toll system (Sanral alecarte)must be put place for the hole bunch for the running "Forwards" and backwards between never ending story hearings,of which the earnings should and must go to the poor ( because the lottery system is just as useless)gg

  • Judy - 2012-04-18 16:04

    This young man should be very careful how he treats his elders and influences his peers. The wheel turns slowly but grinds finely. He will be judged by the way he judges others - that's for sure. Grow up Juvenile Malema! Judy

  • Cassius - 2012-04-18 16:22

    Commenting on Julius is a waste of time, one may wonder how on earth did he become the President of the ANCYL.But why I am I wondering? How did JZee himself become the head of the state is still a Million dollar question!

  • Gieljam - 2012-04-18 16:28

    Ok now Ive figured this all out .They have all been toy toying with us lesser(poorer?) individuals all the time.They are playing some game here and luckily I recalled that song don't now if was the frogs or trogs any case somebody singing" I'll MEET YOU AT MIDNIGHT" only they are referring to a love letter here to throw us of the trail are ......

  • israel.khumalo - 2012-04-18 16:41

    Julius Malema is a disgrace just like 99% ( me included)of News24 blogers. As I always say. " anyone who wants to say anything about race relations in South Africa, just visit News24 and be a judge". Some things will never change since they are in the genes. AMEN

  • Gieljam - 2012-04-18 16:51

    Who is funding these Lawyers that represents the most defiant subjects that anybody could ever think exists.Surely these lawyers also have some dignity and respect of their own some decency to decline by not representing anything that could bring this country to it's knees.

  • Mellisa - 2012-04-18 16:53

    here's the problem. by their reactions, these people are proving to have dictator tendencies in them. now he can't compare leadership qualities of one person who kept SA intact and brought a lot of investment to south africa and another whose actions are only to boost his PR (only proper progress: firing those corrupt ministers)?great! but hey, i get that if he had a problem, he should have spoken to the president on a personal level, maybe even made suggestions instead of comparisons. i mean come on, they are in the same party. it's too bad Julius' lack of choosing better words to use and his already tarnished reputation make it difficult to win this one.

  • Scouter - 2012-04-18 17:02

    "Upon receiving the written submissions the NDCA will sit and consider these and take a decision. Once a decision is taken a public announcement will be made in line with the directives of the ANC constitution," As usual no indication of time frame is given here - This Saturday? Next Week?, Next Year? Never??? If SARS & Hawks were getting a move on I would think that the ANC were waiting for them to do the dirty work on their behalf. This is clearly not happening though - reason? Because digging into young Julius' affairs will doubtless reveal a web of corruption that was first spun in a corner of the highest office of government.

      John - 2012-04-19 11:44

      Spot on Scouter, the cANCer is running scared. The cupboard is jammed full of skeletons. Wouldn't surprise me at all if SARS and Hawks have been silenced by that highest office.

  • Frans - 2012-04-18 17:08

    I fully agree with Floyd some people in the NDCA have sold the principle because of the position that they are being promised i hav already the outcomes of NDCA the expulsion wil remain,but cde Julius Malema must know that in December he will be reinstated Aluta continue amandla!

      Dean - 2012-04-18 18:03

      Can you English that perhaps? Seems your support lies much in line with your (lack of) education.

      Aya - 2012-04-19 15:10

      awethu! aya saba amaguala..they are afraid to be told the truth. He is so mighty as Nelson, Peter Mokaba in their days, arrogant as ever,not afraid of any1,ppl just dont know and they think he is just a fool. PPl thought Madiba was never gonna make it but look now. watch the space with juju.

  • Frans - 2012-04-18 17:08

    I fully agree with Floyd some people in the NDCA have sold the principle because of the position that they are being promised i hav already the outcomes of NDCA the expulsion wil remain,but cde Julius Malema must know that in December he will be reinstated Aluta continue amandla!

      Xulu.Thulany.Xaba - 2012-04-18 18:36

      By u?

      Frans - 2012-04-18 23:42

      He will be reistated by confrence and i will part of that confrence.

  • tangi.amakali - 2012-04-18 17:14

    Don't you think this is interesting: "the land of the country and all the mineral wealth beneath it belongs to the people" I may agree with those who says "right model" should be found to address it. However, pathetic are those who says South African don't have money, like seriously do you only mean black when you say 'They' or all SA Citizen? Doesn't that put you low, incapacity, dumb or idiot? where do the current owners of the mines got money from? Now that you aware that the whole Africa was sold to Chinese, what you do, look at it and say ok? I think we're more racist than the colonial regime. Where do some of these investors got the money from? inheritted from their families, who got the money from where, if so why some of those heavy weight investors are wanted by their native countries or in EU? Who don't steal anyway, the Queen of UK? Sarckozy got vengeance with Ghaddafi over reactors deal, ask Ms Atomic. Blair's business is Libya, Bush's Refinery. Please cut the crap....

      Abram - 2012-04-19 09:55

      Now that you aware that the whole Africa was sold to Chinese,u are right we can't say anything,there is a different between buy and steal,

  • zs5zk - 2012-04-18 18:39

    midnight Dilemma for Idiot Malema!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Andrew - 2012-04-18 19:27

    So what happened to office hours? We will have to pay for some official idiot to sit until midnight for this crap, and pay for his dinner out of the entertainment fund.

  • Abram - 2012-04-19 09:28

    News24 know very well that most of the people comment here are imperialist,they are agaist the ANC government,The ANC is testing the water,the Anc know what the people of south Africa wants. This is a chance for the imperialist to apologise for what they have done and to correct the wrongs they have done,time is ticking is over 18 yrs now.but to me it looks like they are selfish and greedy and stuborn

      Brett - 2012-04-19 15:25

      The imperialist? What century are you living in?

  • Vuyiseka - 2012-04-19 09:41

    I'm warried for mr malema bcs tht is a rght person he talk public.

  • gerald.tsotetsi - 2012-04-19 10:48

    Guys Malema will never be suspended, he got that spirit in him and even if he \might be suspended he will find a way to get back in the league again. There is a reason why he continuously have something against the "whites" and ofcourse Jacob Zuma. So from my point of view its useless telling him to stop because as he said he wont let the media interrogate him. (romajikeke)

  • Aya - 2012-04-19 14:02

    Aya saba amaguala,....ancyl is dissapointing, they are backing down, there will never be a youth league again. some people are afraid to be told the truth..."amaguala" thats why they hate "the fat boy" they call him In their youth "Mandela, Peter Mokaba.. were like him if you dont know ,thats why we never got enough time to be with them as leaders. They always get rid of the powerful ones.

  • Brett - 2012-04-19 15:23

    1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. 2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. 3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. 4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! 5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation. This is Economic Freedom For Dummies.

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