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Minister clarifies EE amendment bill

2011-03-06 22:20

Johannesburg - Labour Minister Nelisiwe Oliphant has assured the Southern African Clothing and Textile Workers' Union (Sactwu) that section 42 of the employment equity amendment bill was not intended to negatively affect coloured or Indian workers, the union said on Sunday.

"We welcome this assurance and call on the department of labour to ensure that it finds expression in the final version of the bill, prior to it being tabled in parliament," said general secretary Andre Kriel.

Kriel said Oliphant also dismissed recent reports that about a million coloureds in the Western Cape and 300 000 Indians in KwaZulu-Natal were at risk of losing their jobs if the amendments went through.

The bill was drafted by the department of labour when the government's new spokesperson Jimmy Manyi was its director general.

Manyi has been under fire since a video clip was broadcast on YouTube last week of him saying that there was an "oversupply" of coloureds in the Western Cape.

On Wednesday, further remarks attributed to Manyi about Indians were published by the Democratic Alliance.

"Indians, we should be having only three percent [of positions on management]. They are sitting at 5.9. I call it the power of bargaining.

"Indians have bargained their way to the top," Manyi said in an address delivered to the Durban Chamber of Commerce last year.

It has been questioned whether his attitude and comments may have impacted on the changes to the act.

Kriel said delegated at union's national bargaining conference held at the weekend in Durban demanded a "living wage" .

"Conference delegates emphasised that they demand a living wage and firmly rejected any attempts to [downplay] various terms and conditions of employment of workers in the industry," he said.

Comments
  • Sword&Cross - 2011-03-06 22:31

    The ANC will within 15 months before the 15 year Hedge Fund explosion, be groveling in the dust with wheelbarrows of cash to buy a loaf of bread. THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW AN ECONOMY IS FRAGILEY SUSTAINED, and could not care less either!

  • Big Mouth - 2011-03-06 22:49

    Yea, it's only engineered to naai whites. I am sick of it.

      Vigorous - 2011-03-07 07:43

      tshepotheterminator - shame dude it must be sad to be part of the "majority" but still have not accomplished much, yes you are right it is to disperse the white man but for 17 years the "majority" could not prove themselves worthy and it's quite sad that the "majority" is still suffering - now more that ever!!!!!!

  • HomeGrown - 2011-03-07 02:51

    OK, so instead of telling tax-payers who want to work, what the intentions not. Just say what the true intentions to the amendments are, then it will be crystal clear that the intention is to discriminate on the basis of colour. Bare in mind, a racist of the worst order initiated the amendments, therefore only racist and discriminatory intentions can result from these amendments. Instead, business need skills to survive, not colour. The colour of our skin is of no significance to the skills we have on offer. Due to our past, the discriminatory education, housing and health policies are the interrelated influences to skills. Therefore, by proactively addressing education, health, housing (and therefore infrastructure) and social welfare in previously disadvantaged communities will create a workforce that is employable...offering the skills business need, not colour. It is common knowledge that apartheid had discriminatory employemnt practice. However, changing coulours around no longer is affirmitive action. After all, the overwhelming majority of us want to work to be independent and support our families, regardless of colour.

  • expatdurbani - 2011-03-07 03:22

    Non blacks are paying higher taxes as well as stimulating the economy by not using the paid for amenities for e.g public school systems, and also paid for their college. Blacks for that matter want socialism. Again who needs who? Oh no epiphany it’s called Marxism.

      Pokkels_LOL - 2011-03-07 14:09

      Imagine South Africa without whites..., 2nd Zimbabwe or worse?

      Linda - 2012-02-23 12:15

      Talking crap, I wonder where the hell you come from. I pay my tax according to the relevant tax scales just like any other person, mind you the Income Tax act of does not classify people according to colour. Section of 1(k) is applicable to all income earner, whilst section 11(a) tell us what to deduct and how, Section (12-19) exemptions and non-deductibles, STOP TALKING NON-SENSE MAKING STATEMENT AND ACT ACCORDINGLY.

  • WhySoAngry? - 2011-03-07 04:34

    I am still missing the clarity....what was the intended purpose of the bill? This article is as vague as the ANC's policies

      Makutu - 2011-03-07 07:57

      My man... As black as I might be but this ANC hogwash is something else. Where else in the world do bills like this get to be passed? STUPIDITY defined...

  • Gerald - 2011-03-07 06:23

    To counter Oliphant's pathetic explanation that the bill is purely to exclude whites, should'nt we get rid of our black labour, eg. house help, gardener and any casual labour we sometimes need? Buy a dishwasher, spindryer and maybe you can let out your servant's room to some needy whites. We do not have to be victims!

      Smaal - 2011-03-07 08:04

      .... and you won’t believe how long a bag of sugar last without a maid.

      Jenna - 2011-03-07 08:17

      Gerald, As a result of the exclusion I have started my own business, after being excluded from all the funding and support given to black entrepreneurs the government tells me who I should employ and on what conditions....I don't like this.

      Fred - 2011-03-07 10:40

      The constitution defends minority rights, find out what your rights are and use them and human rights laws to enforce the government to abide by their constitution. Laws are in place to protect you, start using them.

      Linda - 2012-02-23 12:18

      Anyway you don't pay them much, and so what ever you decide does not make/ change the situation. How much do you pay to this mama whom does many task that not even your wife is willing to perform, such as washing your underwears, running after your you to pick up your dirty stuff. PLEASE!!

  • jiamalunga - 2011-03-07 06:38

    Then remove Section 42! Simple

  • Hugh - 2011-03-07 07:14

    If that is not what it means or that is not the intention then amend the bill to reflect true objective. Someday someone will read it different or impliment the regulation by stealth.

  • The Odd One Too - 2011-03-07 07:16

    AA/BEE is racism. Supporters of this legislation are no better than supporters of Verwoerd's policies. Simple as that.

  • BigD - 2011-03-07 07:40

    Why after 17 years does the anc feel that they still have to protect certain groups at the expense of the others. All the anc has to do is to create a climate for investment and jobs will be created. The present labour laws are too restrictive for companies to invest here to employ the masses.

      Jenna - 2011-03-07 09:38

      BigD, protect certain groups but please at the same time get the standard of service back to 1994.

  • Mangena1 - 2011-03-07 07:49

    The government is tired of asking the minority in this country to change the way they do things.It has dicided to approach issue via policies of which is thing is only way since we living in democratic country. The answer to this issues is sinlpe, change your attitude people toward the blacks then everything will be fine otherwise you still going complain for many years to come.

      Smaal - 2011-03-07 08:17

      Tell me Mangena1 , what good does the African bring to the world? What good does the African bring to Africa? Maybe it’s the black man’s mindset that is wrong. Maybe it’s the black man’s attitude that needs to change! How long has the world been waiting for Africa to come right? A better question for you: Does the world need Africa? “Yes”. Does the world need Africans? … you answer that one.

      karenc - 2011-03-07 08:29

      Maybe you need to change your attitude towards how you do things - like get off your backside and earn your place in the world - not expect it to be given to you for nothing - attitude !!??

      euro-african - 2011-03-07 09:14

      The realistic unemployment rate is probably closer to 34%. The white population is 9%. Even if every whits person was to give up their job tomorrow to blacks(btw there are many unemployed white people), unemployment would still be at 25%. Then in a few years you would have skills shortages which would result in service delivery issues, power outages, unrealiable water treatment, decreasing foreign investment, failing parastatals, an education dep in crisis and a host of other problems. The same hell hole we currently find ourselves in. But hey, at least you get to screw over white people. A looting continua.

      Fred - 2011-03-07 10:43

      Read your comment again, its unconstitutional to demand that one groups ideas\attitude be forced on another, therefore your comments are not only racist, they are illegal.

  • daaivark - 2011-03-07 07:51

    So what exactly IS the intention? What was the point of even mentioning the issue in the bill, if not to make provision for some or other future strategy?

  • Makutu - 2011-03-07 07:56

    What kind of logic is this...? So, 76% of management positions should be occupied by black people because 76% of the populations is black. I beg to differ. THAT is total RUBBISH! I know someone is going to call me a snob. This is part of the things that might lead to our failure as a country.

      BilboBaggins - 2011-03-07 09:26

      Makutu, exactly. Where does performance fit into it? I don't know why I continue to pay my taxes in South Africa but am forced to work in other SADC countries. I love my country, but I have got to the stage where things have become hopeless. I work in public health and have more than enough work in SADC but because of my skin colour I cannot get work (since 2003) in South Africa. Total crap and I am leaving as soon as I can because I can no longer take the 'punishment' of being a pale-skinned South African.

      Jenna - 2011-03-07 09:43

      Who will invest in a public company (or any venture for that matter) where the board of directors and decision makers are under qualified and inexperienced regardless of the color and nationality.

  • wbcbaker1983 - 2011-03-07 08:16

    Why doesn't the ANC encourage people to actually work for something that they want instead of expecting it to just be handed to them on a silver platter

      MathysTheart - 2011-03-07 09:36

      Because, then they lose votes. I thought it was obvious.

  • Knersus - 2011-03-07 08:20

    So you guys say there is less racism in the country than in apartheid times. I don’t think so. We have a nice constitution that enshrines racism. They just call it EE, Bee, etc. They explicitly use the words, Blacks, Whites, Indians, Colourds in the law. Why did the media use the words previously disadvantaged if the actual constitution is racist and calls it by the name. It funny that one word in a constitution can make a bunch of blacks racist. It’s the word “FAIR”. You see, in Africa I don’t think there is a word for fair. Otherwise there would have been less dictators “Discrimination must be “fair””. Well, Verwoerd had it all wrong. If he had put the word “fair” in front of apartheid “FAIR APARTHEID” all of this would be no something of the past.

  • Blurp - 2011-03-07 10:09

    What ever happened to working your way to the top?

      Jenna - 2011-03-07 10:25

      died in 1994

  • Jayjay001 - 2011-03-07 12:18

    We the diverse people, groups and/or opinions form together the Cape Separatists who all fight of tyranny and oppression of the racist ANC led government for our people the Kaapies with full plans to bring about a secession of the Cape Republic from South Africa - That we become the first country in the world to have the most ethnically diverse population group who are the Majority citizens of our Cape - the Cape Coloureds and become a world place where diversity is celebrated instead of degraded. Where for the first time the rights of people of mixed heritages get highlighted as something to celebrate instead of being seen as half of a person, religion or ethnicity. - That we become the true face of the Rainbow Nation where no matter what the colour of your skin you are loved, supported and cherished by our wider society to become a fully contributing citizen to our Cape Republic - That we do not follow in the path of our brethren in the rest of Africa and live off foreign aid as part of our National Income but that we fend for ourselves. - We become a beacon of light to the world that diversity is the place to be and revel in. - That no more does one's skin colour of not being dark or light skinned enough ensure discrimination. - That our Nation becomes the leader in the world on dealing with race relations, instead of what's gone on here in the Cape. - That Nationalism is finally and firmly placed into the ground where it belongs, no more White nor Black Nationalism.

  • Francois - 2011-03-07 12:36

    Hey Manye, the ANC has also bargained there way to the top during negotiations at Codesa and stole the top thereafter - so don't complain. Joe Modise stole his way to the top - but you never condemned that.

  • Fabian - 2011-03-29 11:08

    Does how constitution not say that all south African has the right to live, and work where ever they want to and not get discriminated against on basis of skin color and gender etc.

  • garethallison - 2012-02-23 12:45

    Highly racist comments from Manyi - extremely disappointing. What a chop!

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