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NHI could be 'unconstitutional'

2011-08-15 22:25

Cape Town - The proposed national health insurance (NHI) might turn out to be unconstitutional, the Freedom Front Plus said on Monday.

This was because taxpayers would be forced to join and pay contributions, FF Plus spokesperson Anton Alberts said in a statement.

This was contrary to section 18 of the Constitution which guarantees freedom of association.

"South African taxpayers are already heavily taxed and imposing a further tax in the current economic climate will further punish the working, middle class," he said.

However, last week's publication of the NHI green paper was welcomed by the SA Medical and Dental Practitioners Association (SAMDP).

"The NHI will improve coverage and the quality of services offered to South Africans irrespective of their ability to pay for it," the association said in a statement.

"We further support the phased introduction of the systems."

The SAMDP would study the document and provide a detailed response.

The majority of SAMDP doctors provided services in areas where communities were poor and could not afford private health care, it said.

The SAMDP would support government in preparing doctors to make a success of NHI.

"We applaud government for taking this initiative.

"The critics of NHI conveniently forget that South Africa's life expectancy is about 48 years. Doing nothing about this is more harmful," it said.

Comments
  • edalsg - 2011-08-15 23:16

    Then can I have freedom from normal tax as well please ___Sounds like an idiotic argument !

      J T - 2011-08-16 01:06

      Readers just have a look at this website below:- (Pertains a USA Appeal Court ruling on the proposed Obama Heath Care system) See here: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-appeals-rules-against/2011/08/12/id/407123?s=al&promo_code=CD40-1#ixzz1Uroj1JKB

      Chika01 - 2011-08-16 08:24

      Lets face facts. Yes we nees a better public health system in the country but the current infastucture is there it is yust totaly mismanaged. We come back to the basic concept of if you are qualified you can get the job but as in most gov. dep. it is a friend or AA that has given the MEC's & Adminastative staff thier jobs. Fix what we have now and the health system in our country can once again be one of the best in the world. Putting a new tax on taxpayers is not the way rather tax all south africans R10 a month. Do that math all the funds needed. The normal tax payer can not afford another exorberant tax!!!!

      Hardtail - 2011-08-16 08:30

      got to love the SA Medical and Dental Practitioners Association - after all it means mo' money fo them.... course they gonna support it!

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-16 12:05

      Under the NP life expectancy was 64 years in 1992. Under the ANC life expectancy is 48 years in 2011. After 17 years of "freedom" life expectancy has fallen 16 years. Is the ANC trying to free South Africans from life itself?

      frangelico - 2011-08-18 01:12

      edalsg,I agree freedom from normal tax is not too much to ask whites & some coloureds & Indians very few blacks,pay heavy taxes,if at all.Now they NHI TAX bugger them they should stop breeding like the rats they are.the government must make provision for this influx

  • Muhammud - 2011-08-15 23:29

    The FF +....Why should white people pay for poor black ppl's health issues?

      Olavin - 2011-08-16 04:07

      We shouldn't have to, it's servitude, and we're guaranteed freedom from servitude under the constitution.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-16 12:09

      I'm no longer a white slave, I left the country, almost two years later SARS sends me an email asking for money. I ignored it. The position I left remains vacant. SARS can try fund my rather sizeable tax contribution by some other means. Let these poor people stand on their own feet, we're all equal and therefore they can look after themselves.

  • J T - 2011-08-16 01:05

    Readers just have a look at this website below:- (Pertains a USA Appeal Court ruling on the proposed Obama Heath Care system) See here: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-appeals-rules-against/2011/08/12/id/407123?s=al&promo_code=CD40-1#ixzz1Uroj1JKB

  • Dave50 - 2011-08-16 05:12

    The government is going to tax people out of our country, the working people will have to carry the rest of the country more than they are already doing. Colour does not come into this, the tolls are going to hit working people with a double hit first the toll and then the rise in prices of food ect.both white and black. The private hospitals are making a fortune, R 4000.00 to stich a minor cut for example, tax them on their profits made from health to fund health care and a portion of the .85 cts per rand on tolls that goes where ?, could more than finance the whole scheme. But will the standards improve or will the money go down the same dark hole it does do now. The idea is very good and is needed but who will benifit in the end, will we get the standard that other countries have or will corruption and incompitent administration eat the money and the people of SA suffer again.

  • pitbull - 2011-08-16 06:29

    We already pay 60% of our lives to taxes and we get no return except a Mampara for a president and corruption from his cohorts.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-16 12:15

      60%, I got a much higher figure. You basically work for the government. Remember other countries gives you free water and education which South Africa doesn't. Include those costs and you hit 74%+

  • GV - 2011-08-16 07:54

    If They force us to pay, then I will make use of the NHI every month, even if I don't need to, just to make sure I get enough service to cover the cost of my contribution. Every person who contributes should do the same.

  • Leslie - 2011-08-16 08:02

    I truly do not mind paying tax if it is being used properly. But I wish they would implement a system whereby everyone gets one vote, but for each additional R10k you pay in tax, you get an additional vote. It is one way to encourage everyone to pay their taxes. That way, the tax payer, the educated minority could decide what happens to their money. I do believe we need to improve health care and education, amongst other things, but so much of our tax money is wasted. The government does not need to collect more tax, they just need to stop stealing and wasting what they get.

      Mark - 2011-08-16 08:42

      I like your "R10k for an additional vote idea". Unfortunately that wont happen. Our govt might be more in facvour of an additional vote for every crime you commit.

  • lzb - 2011-08-16 08:08

    what about people who already have a private medical aid? why should i pay for something i will not use? its theft, the government is stealing money, i refuse to pay for this, it is not my fault that other people cant afford medical aid, vote for a different government if you are unhappy, don't punish me for not being able to keep your promises as a free and fair country.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-16 08:40

      What about when you work for a company that forces you to take a medical aid? Must we then pay for both?

  • RickyC - 2011-08-16 08:14

    Whats interesting about this is that Govt medical scheme GEM's would have to disolve and all Govt employees and yes that includes ministers and Mr Zuma would now have to use state facilities as they would have to set an example for all of us..............looking forward to see that..

      renata.stoop - 2011-08-16 14:38

      @RickyC ... Haha we all know that's not going to happen

  • Peanut - 2011-08-16 08:18

    Of course the SAMDP would support the NHI. The more money in the system, the more money in their pockets!

  • Ann - 2011-08-16 08:24

    From your lips to God's ears - we are being taxed to death in this country!

  • Matt :-) - 2011-08-16 08:42

    I have no problem with people geting good medical attention that is affordable or even free, for those who actually need it. But look at universal healthcare overseas - the majority of patients are there as a result of self-infliction. Why should we pay tax so that a drunk can get his nose fixed after a fight? Why should we pay tax so that a seriously fat person can have his stomach stapled when all he needs to do is stop eating so much?

  • Lioness - 2011-08-16 09:23

    They can't even run the goverment hospitals properly and now they want to manage a national health system?! Can someone please explain to me how this will ever work out if the Goverment isn't paying their bills right now!? Just more money for the Goverment officials to steal and use for their own inrichment, while the hard working people of this country suffers more and more!

  • ronaldv83 - 2011-08-16 09:24

    Just another government money making scheme, they can just as easily pass law that all employers has to contribute a minimum of a “hospital fund” (which most private medical aids have) too each employee. This will insure that all South Africans have a medical aid and will in turn medical aid costs which in turn benefits all South Africans. Most “hospital funds” cost about R100 to R300 at current.

  • YES - 2011-08-16 10:25

    You know why FF+ is saying its unconstitutional? It is because of its horizontal application - the sheme is going to cover all and not the rich and whites. It is strange that FF+ finds voice so late in the century when its direct ancestors (BJ Voster, Connie Mulder and all whites) would just implement laws and schemes that benefitted certain section of society without any regard to the other. Now that we have a constitution in place and other subsisting laws they feel like unleashing it against the poor. Let them try to stop the scheme and watch them end up with an egg in the face, just as their cousins in Afriforum did with our struggles sons. Their counsel was badly exposed by Malema when he was in the dock.

  • Darkwing Duck - 2011-08-16 11:10

    "South Africa's life expectancy is about 48 years." Yeah, well only in South Africa would death by bludgeoning, stabbing, necklacing or gunshot wounds be considered "natural causes". Put more attention into curbing the crime problem, and I promise you, the life expectancy will improve dramatically!!

  • Darkwing Duck - 2011-08-16 11:22

    If the DA were in charge of things, I would not only pay the NHI tax, but I would also join the crowds chanting for "white tax" payment. I have no objection to the lofty goals which these ideas seek to address, I actually want all South Africans to be uplifted, however I have no confidence that these funds under the ANC will be managed properly, or that these taxes will benefit the people they are intended for. I have seen too much theft, corruption and maladministration from the ANC government to willingly fund their self enrichment any further!

  • Eric - 2011-08-17 08:32

    If I have to pay for it I will use it. So no payment untill there is a clinic in my area!!!!

  • Blikskottel - 2011-10-10 07:23

    Let these healthcare proffesionals then support this scheme with the money they so rake up in piles. The tax payer want none of this as it is just another ripoff that will further enrich deployed ANC cadres.

  • aiazmir - 2011-10-26 18:55

    I agree wholeheartedly. Many statutory laws that have been passed are unconstitutional. This is just another. Besides the economic effects, it seeks to put more money in the hands of inefficient administrators and probationers.

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