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New rift between Malema and ANCYL

2012-06-24 14:40

Johannesburg - New rifts between the ANCYL and its expelled president Julius Malema were appearing, according to media reports on Sunday.

Previously, African National Congress Youth League meetings had focused on overturning Malema's expulsion, but recently a new focus on policy had emerged, City Press reported.

No mention was made of Malema at a policy workshop in Pretoria this week.

Neither Malema nor the Friends of the Youth League (FYL) were invited to the workshop, apparently because the organisers did not have their e-mail addresses.

An FYL organiser complained to the newspaper that he was battling to set up a meeting with ANCYL deputy president Ronald Lamola.

Gauteng ANCYL chairperson Lebogang Maile called this week for Malema and suspended ANCYL secretary general Sindiso Magaqa to be replaced, the Sunday Times reported.

The ANCYL's constitution stated that in the absence of the president or the secretary, their deputies should take over.

However, ANCYL leadership had resolved to continue to recognise Malema and Magaqa until the next congress in 2014.

This was inconsistent with the ANCYL's constitution and that of the ANC, Maile said.

"We would want the constitution to be followed to the letter," he told the newspaper.

Comments
  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-06-24 14:49

    The ANCYL has their own constitution? what a joke xD

      Scouter - 2012-06-24 16:05

      Not so sure it's as much a constitution as it is an agenda. These little boys really do believe that they have something of value to say. Boys playing in an adult world - bound to end in tears. But then again the 'adult world of the ANC' is hardly a mature and well considered institution...

      Barefoot - 2012-06-24 16:23

      Is the joke part the fact that they don't follow it or the fact that they have it? if it's the latter i would say you are commenting on things you not well versed on pretty sure the DA Youth has a constitution even the YCL. Any way having a constitution doesn't say anything if behaving like the ANCYL bunch, is there even one person who can read it among them?

      Squeegee - 2012-06-24 18:47

      "Eh sorry, we meant constipation..."

      greg.quinn.353 - 2012-06-25 09:47

      Yeah what a joke. And never once do I remember that constitution actually doing something for the youth of this country.

      procold2 - 2012-06-25 15:03

      out in the cold juju

  • Phillip - 2012-06-24 15:00

    i'm worried about the future of the ANC , IF PEOPLE FEEL THREATENED WHEN THEY AIR THEIR VIEWS

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-06-24 16:30

      I am happy that you worry about the future of the ANC. No malice intend, butI wish you more worries going forward.....

      Irene - 2012-06-24 16:34

      Phillip ~ Don't let it ruin your Sunday lunch. The cANCer's days are numbered.

  • Scouter - 2012-06-24 15:01

    Goodness me, avariciousness appears to be rearing its ugly head in the ANCYL. Don't tell me that they are all self serving capitalists, after all. I am surprised .... here today gone tomorrow, young Julius. You appear to have taught your cadres well. Sorry for you that the knives are out - but I think it is called 'poetic justice'. Poetic justice of the absolute sweetest kind ...... you are no longer loved, by all account. Now you have to live with the pressing financial traps you have created for yourself when you were feeling invincible.

      Sharon - 2012-06-24 17:15

      a new spear has risen,lets see how long it takes for lamola to start with his underhanded stories and also grow into a fat pig

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-24 17:15

      et tu brute! Time to vote the anc out!

      smili.fication - 2012-06-24 17:29

      Kolobe - By the time Malema and trash take over the ANC, the party headquarters will be run out of a shack.

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-06-24 15:05

    all a bunch of brainless sheep!!!

      lownabester - 2012-06-24 16:01

      You not being nice to sheep:)))) Atleast we can use their wool and meat, With Malema..........nothing.

      Sharon - 2012-06-24 17:15

      yeah rather use the goat as an example

      ditoare.gypsy - 2012-06-25 01:21

      Neither the goats we use them to comunicate with ancestors, how about the donkeys? Hmmm ah ah donkeys can be useful in fetching water... Maybe start looking at things like TICK's and FLEA's

  • nkosinathi.sinanda - 2012-06-24 15:08

    Animal Farm politic.

  • hein.huyser - 2012-06-24 15:11

    Again, nothing these ancyl members say make any sense, except to a cadre maybe. Eish!!

  • nofikathiniskeyi.eunice - 2012-06-24 15:11

    whatttttt ow no

      alansmartSnr - 2012-06-25 16:10

      ..Just hope that this Molola idiot keeps his zip closed and his "spear" out of public view. Perhaps another Goodman masterpiece would be in order, even if it's only to to show what a dickhead he is

      tigra.aeris - 2012-07-01 14:47

      @alansmartSnr - ROTFLOAO. I have a really great imagination - can literally see that in my mind in the form of a Zapiro-like cartoon.

  • Swapie - 2012-06-24 15:19

    The deputies want to take over. Easy as that.

      luvhani.mphagi - 2012-06-24 16:04

      Spot on, ur smart u...

      ditoare.gypsy - 2012-06-25 01:15

      MAILE is a Gauteng chairperson he want new election..... LAMOLA is deputy he doesn't want new election

  • Gielman - 2012-06-24 15:26

    Great news. Hope beady eyed malema and his fellow scarecrow bitches get it...

  • dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-06-24 15:40

    Do not see many of the faithfull ANC/ANCYL doffies replying !! I would rather support vomit on the floor than this lot !!

      isabel.w.stokes - 2012-06-24 15:52

      So they can't find Juliarse's email address? I'd take a stab at juliarse.malema@stoopid.com

      Johan De Beer - 2012-06-24 16:14

      They'll be on the internet tomorrow during work time - when they can steal their "evil" bosses' work time and use their "capitalistic" resources.

      Barefoot - 2012-06-24 16:28

      Johan that's kind of a jow blow, comments like those stifling proper debate, it's Sunday maybe they are not as bored as me and you- they might be drinking johnny walker

      Barefoot - 2012-06-24 16:39

      low blow

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-24 17:18

      @Barefoot - a low blow is the best sort!

  • brendon.alberts - 2012-06-24 16:02

    Welcome to Manor Farm. Please deposit apples and milk.....

  • martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-06-24 16:08

    Hahahahaha what an excuse: "We didn't have their e-mail addresses"...

      Koos - 2012-06-25 05:26

      Post office on strike, e-mail was not delivered.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-06-24 16:34

    It's the same rift with new tactics. You forgot to wish Zuma for his birthday and insist on recognising JM, they lost your e-mail addresses. Just another episode in the ongoing soap-opera. It's time both organisations realised there are real problems out there, affecting real people.

  • Scouter - 2012-06-24 16:35

    A Candid Message to you Young Julius .... No matter how rotten the existing system might be, never try to mess with it from someone in your position - because the more rotten it is the more likely it is to screw your type into the deepest hole you can imagine. Personally, I hope they do .... you certainly deserve it. As a white african I have learnt to understand the sense of African justice over the years. Afraid to say, it doesn't allow for young upstarts of your ilk - doesn't make it right, but in your case I would turn a blind eye. You will be buried - along with all your lieutenants who fail to toe the party(Zuma's) line. Welcome to Africa - but then, I shouldn't need to educate you on that front - if I do, then you are more ignorant than I originally imagined ......... Live by the sword, die by the sword.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-06-24 20:37

      And so will we, Scouter. I would prefer a sword to this slow death via taxes, rates, bullying, scaremongering, farm murders and stupidity. "A very clever game was wrought; while we were playing in the Constitution Court" - How do you eat an Elephant? - Slowly. The bosses can't tell the YL what they are doing: ie milking the cow dry before they kill it. If there was any overt terrorist action, people will run with their money. Ironic that no one in the YL understands that close to 50% of every tax-paying citizen's income goes to taxes. Don't thank the ANC for building houses and providing jobs - thank the taxpayer. They (ANC) are just the (awful) administrators.

      sally.lewitt - 2012-06-24 21:22

      Please leave the Swords at home or even mentions Swords..

      Koos - 2012-06-25 05:27

      What about spears?

  • chikunga - 2012-06-24 16:55

    better Zuma than Malema and the fact is who ever is gonna replace Zuma will be a Malema alley.I am not sympathetic to any but I think the other is better than the later

      malusi.shumane - 2012-06-24 17:02

      True man. I'd rather hv Zuma monopoly than Kgalema n Sexwale as thiz 2 seem 2 b sympathetic to Malema. Malema z bad news 2 SA

  • malusi.shumane - 2012-06-24 17:07

    I want Zuma 2 win in Mangaung cz all his challengers seem 2 b proMalema. Malema mst disappear 4eva cz he z bad news... Zuma plz also get rid of Mbalula

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-24 17:21

      I think that you might be right! Viva Zuma for President! He is the best vote-catcher the DA has ever had! Next elections .... Vote DA!

      Lincoln - 2012-06-24 20:08

      Shame fr u malusi bcoz Zuma z nt going t get it he z going Zuma is the one person we all want t get rid of.

  • netshiavhane - 2012-06-24 17:22

    Sense of humor..and to govern people.

  • Martin - 2012-06-24 17:28

    will the media ever stop referring to Malema as 'former, expelled, past president of the ANCYL'? as this implies some sort of status. He is just a common, the emphasis on COMMON (with a big mouth)citizen of the country, granted with plenty of ignorant followers, of this country.

  • Fanie - 2012-06-24 17:53

    And another ANC "stronghold" crumbles due to selfish self importance.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-06-25 16:39

      My take on this..Zuma is a dumb, uneducated, wannabe leader on the one side and Malema is a dumb, bigmouth, semi educated wannabe (has been) leader on the other side. Frankly I dont care which one gets the power 'cos both are inadequate and either of them wont last a full term as there are some effective, intelligent candidates waiting in the wings. Sooner or later we will have a "palace revolution" cos the ANC as such will not allow either of these two to bring the ANC down. They might just get a wake up call soon. If we want a well run country vote DA!

  • ernest.leshega - 2012-06-24 18:21

    my self personaly i dont surport the view of lebogang Maile bcz he hv intrest not tobuid organisation but to inrich himself. his view is not building is more deviding the whole organization. also is suport exectly what Pule Mabe he said, bcz on the other side ancyl suspended Pule mabe.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-06-24 20:44

      Don't you want them to do some real work for a change, Ernest?

  • andrew.arnesen - 2012-06-24 18:30

    Africa Nonsense Club's Young Looters... ;)

  • mzegezulu.nhlapo - 2012-06-24 18:34

    He said\In politics there are no permanent friends n enemies\that's 4 really,life in general is like that,we will c after mangaung conference.I hope n pray 4 cde malema that he will resurect.

      Sharon - 2012-06-24 19:46

      it all depends who you pray to,you will probably have a better chance if you go talk to your ancestors,god wont listen to crap

  • david.t.gent - 2012-06-24 19:37

    R.A.L.M.F.A.O

  • mlungisi.crush - 2012-06-24 20:32

    They are afraid of a dead snake-julious is gone!!! Pls don't inform us about him anymore!!! He adds nothing to our lives!

  • lynn.syme.1 - 2012-06-24 21:28

    Who cares?

  • ditoare.gypsy - 2012-06-25 01:02

    Its either they appoint new president or the ANC must desolve the whole ANCYL leadership, unless they are independant and not reporting to ANC anymore. In 2014 he will still be fired and they will have to elect a president anyway

  • damonsb - 2012-06-25 06:53

    Boring !!

  • James - 2012-06-25 07:30

    Like a headless chicken. Its a fact! Chickens does live for some time after its head is severed. Which of the two is then regarded as the chicken? Certainly the part without the head. Shame :( Malema MUST ACCEPT he is not in control of the chicken any longer. Certainly a new head is now in control of the chicken or am I mistaken?

  • jus.manning - 2012-06-25 07:35

    Anybody ever read the book titled "Animal Farm" by George Orwell?

      alansmartSnr - 2012-06-25 16:46

      Try reading "Peters Principle" or google a condensed version. That explains our failure in Health, Schools, Police, and a slew of all the f$^% ups we are exsperiences we are having

  • phumlanin3 - 2012-06-25 09:05

    What's the duty of the ANCYL, they never address serious challenges faced by the youth more especially education, all they do is to preach about land of which without skills we can't do anything about is. U just a waste

  • matthews.bantsijang - 2012-06-25 09:18

    Is that true?

  • Timothy - 2012-06-25 09:56

    Throwing their man to the lions... lol @ malema.. did you honestly think they were going to do anything else when power is on the line.

  • kevin.day.7370 - 2012-06-25 09:56

    So the Friends of the Youth League and Julius weren't invited because 'they didn't have their e-mail addresses'? What a laugh, their admin is worse than their anger management! Please, this is supposed to be a professionally run organisation

      B.b. - 2012-06-25 13:27

      No thet don't have their e-mail addresses because they r not part of the ANCYL, they r just FYL,,,so, if they want the ANCYL to have their contacts, they must hand them to organization silly,,,they r not the Gods lol

  • mark.singh.9889 - 2012-06-25 10:22

    I hope this is all true. I would really love to see that worthless ancyl totally banned. they are worth nothing and are just trouble makers.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 12:13

      Kabelo what you want is readily available, just start working and it will all come to you.

      vernon.annandale.7 - 2012-06-25 13:07

      @kabelo were you even born when apparthied was around? What you are demanding is at your feet for the taking and its simple I promise,all you need to do is get off your lazy ars and work for it! You know that SA is the only country where affirmative action works in favor of the majority,so you don't even have to work that hard

  • lucious.bodibe - 2012-06-25 10:42

    viva malema viva. we await your return to the politics

      slawek.puk - 2012-06-25 16:40

      troll or just stupid?

  • kaapseklonk.visfreeter - 2012-06-25 11:23

    Strange that Zuma is calling for disciplinary measures to be taken against MP and any member who is speaking or raising concerns about the newANC elite leadership.Wonder if Zumas statement also applies toMandela?For whenMandela went on public platforms,and publicly toldMbekie what he was going to do with ANC,was wrong and it would hurt Mandelas rainbow nation.I voted for Mandela,but will never vote 4 the new ANC,for they have destroyed the ANC,through open corruption 2 dicieving and keeping the majority uneducated and forced them into deeper povity.All for the cause 2 enriching a few elite ANC members ANC have bankcrupted SA and erroded the future of majority,by increaseing crime and killing honest investment,over politicialy and corrupt investment,where elite MPs businesses are promoted over the majority voters interests.ANC have destroyed the SAP and SA laws,that protect SA citerzens interests New elite ANC break SA laws,so that they can get away with fraud/corruption at the expence ofmajority voters.

  • Michael - 2012-06-25 11:39

    plain and simple the govermont needs to take the youth seriously as they are the future but this has not been the case...and i dont think anybody can accomlplish this in the anc without it just being empty promises for theit own political and financial well-being...if you cany understand this go back to school

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 12:08

    I thought the ANCYL made it clear that he was their President for ever?. Little hands filled with silver?.

      B.b. - 2012-06-25 13:45

      Lol ANCYL is not Zanu-PF of Zimbabwe which believes in one person as a good leader,,,if u regard Malema as the only leader who can lead the youth it means we r going nowhere as the youth

  • B.b. - 2012-06-25 13:40

    Ephesians 6:1-4\r\nChildren, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise), “that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land.” Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. I hope the statement of discipline made by thePresident of the country puts it clear,,,,Viva ANC viva! I'm against the factions, I want the Party to be strong! I'm not supporting individuals,,,even Zuma is not my favourite, but whoever that represents the party by sticking to its policy, I shall support him or her,,,Amandla!...............?

  • fletterjes.vandouronner - 2012-06-25 14:49

    'ma djy word nou oerals uitgebak nu! Djy sal moet anner maters soek!

  • Trevor - 2012-06-25 15:15

    What a photo...ooooh...oooooh......oooh...... they didn't buy me bannanas

      slawek.puk - 2012-06-25 16:47

      He looks so dark

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-06-25 16:41

    Juju should be replaced because the ANC has fired him,Juju ask Gen. Holomisa.Ronald Lamola is already playing the role of ANCYL president.he is preaching Malema's Gospel.'feed' him Juju.You can be his mentor until 2014

  • BulletProof. - 2012-06-25 18:55

    Just ignore this bunch of hooligan's, please.

  • Ian - 2012-06-26 00:03

    Agh .... please allow tribalism their luxury. Maybe, just maybe they will consolidate into something tantamount to George V. The one who should have worn condoms.....

  • rebaone.keameditse - 2012-06-26 13:30

    I have never seen in my whole life a fearful organisation like the current ANCYL leadership and it's entire membership. Toothless and unconstitutional, they rather abandon their constitution and be unti-ANC for the fear of one man. my advice is that they should take into notice what Cheer said about the resposibilities of the YL's in general one WORD, LEARN. They don't LEARN.

  • clivegoss - 2012-07-01 14:23

    Grow up . Julius is gone. Thank God

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