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No plan for free education: ANCYL

2012-05-03 17:04

Johannesburg - It is disturbing that an effective plan for free education has not been developed, the ANC Youth League said on Thursday.

"To date the minister of higher education and training has not developed a coherent approach on the delivery of the progressive realisation of free education," the ANCYL said in a statement.

"We... demand the immediate implementation of the resolutions taken at the 2007 Polokwane congress of the ANC."

The ANCYL said it would support a march organised by the SA Students Congress, taking place in Pretoria on Friday.

It called on its structures to join the march, which would be attended by ANCYL deputy president Ronald Lamola and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi.

"This march is a reminder that our country continues to face a crisis in education," the ANCYL said.

"We continue to witness young people being excluded from tertiary institutions and the African majority not having access to higher education."

The march starts at the Tshwane City Hall at 09:00 and proceeds to the national department of higher education.

Comments
  • Smile - 2012-05-03 17:13

    The ANCYL marches for nobody but themselves!

      kenbro2012 - 2012-05-03 17:25

      Okey which means that everybody gets free higher education,, so I can go to stellenbosch university and study a course that costs 20.000 per year for 7 years and don't pay excellent when can I enroll

      William - 2012-05-03 18:07

      I think we should start by demanding that pupils go to school. Then we should demand that our ANCYL leaders have an education beyong a GG for woodwork. Then perhaps we can start training some accountants that might be aware of the act that things cost money. Unless of course out ANCYL leaders are willing to give up ALL of their time to teach our children how to get a GG for woodwork. That is the current University entrance requirement, right? A GG in woodwork?

      RES.AntiPollution - 2012-05-03 18:49

      Yip, we demand to go for free...sic..that stellenbosh tertiarary education system that costs more like 30000 per year was recently ranked 133/142 (that would be 133 out of 142 countries in the world)by the World Economic Forum report 2012. With science and maths a stagering 138/142. thats 30000 well spent. Rather get a GG for woodwork it guarantees entry into politics, fantastic place this, proudly south african sic

      Godfrey - 2012-05-03 20:54

      LOL...This is a personal attack on Blade, all about Mangaung. Shame no wonder he was calling for unity. Any ideas of where he can be sharpend??

  • Sharon - 2012-05-03 17:19

    Obviously the ANCYL does not read News24! http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Most-pupils-do-not-pay-school-fees-20120503

  • Morama - 2012-05-03 17:23

    Political struggle at it's best!!! ANCYL want to get rid of the irresponsible communist minister of higher education which i fully support.

      Musawenkosi - 2012-05-03 18:20

      I wonder what the Minister oF Higher Education does becuase each time he gets an opportunity to speak to the masses he does not talk abaout what he has done but he critises these government officials whom he is the part of.

      Izak - 2012-05-03 20:26

      There is nothing wrong with a comunist, or rather socialist approach, when it comes to things like education and healthcare. It works for many first world countries. The problem is that you need to fund it somehow. And that is the problem, a chicken and egg problem. In order to fund it, you need economically active people who pay tax. So for at least a few more years, the majority of people won't get free access to higher education. We simply cannot afford it. But what is important is that we start somewhere.

  • Heiku - 2012-05-03 17:26

    Positive news this. So they get rid of motormouth and now the YL can tackle legitimate youth issues. Education being the most important.

  • Ngaka - 2012-05-03 17:31

    Julle is aan punt,my vriende..Ons onderwys is nie goed nie, en hulle niks doen nie.Hierdie mense moet ons terug betaal...Sie mussen uns zuruck erzhaalen.Ba swanetje ba re patele,re ba godishetja lefela..kudukudu yena wo Blade.

      Steven Trollip - 2012-05-03 18:17

      @ngaka.klink vir my jy moet ook terug gaan skool toe want jy klink so bietjie deermekaar.

      Ngaka - 2012-05-03 18:35

      right back at you.

      Izak - 2012-05-03 20:16

      Ek is beïndruk! Du sprichst auch Deutsch! Maar kyk, niks is verniet nie, nothing comes for free. A teacher is not going to teach for free. Especially the sadtu crowd. But that does not mean that government cannot heavily subsidise, or provide bursaries, where it is deserved. This is the kind of plan they want to see. I do however think that this demand for free university access won't work. As someone who has gone to university, I can tell you, its HARD! I had a 70% average in matric and still flunked maths in first year! So whatever plan you come up with will only get people into universities 20 years from now... either that, or what passes for a degree will become meaningless.

      Marina - 2012-05-03 23:28

      @Ngaka. Stop using google trnaslate. It doesn't translate accurately, that's why your posting is garbled.

      Marina - 2012-05-03 23:29

      ggogle translate

      Marina - 2012-05-03 23:29

      google translate. LOL 3rd time lucky.

  • Fezile - 2012-05-03 17:31

    Free Education!? Do u want to study anywhere or Do u want to study for Free....! Somebody define Free Education for me clearly The ANCYL has it's own definition. "To date the minister of higher education and training has not developed a coherent approach on the delivery of the progressive realisation of free education," the ANCYL said in a statement."

  • thapelosb - 2012-05-03 17:35

    That is a good move for Sasco and cosas and ANCYL for liberating for free education,most students dropped out from universities due to lack of finances,so maybe the match will help.

      Piet - 2012-05-03 17:42

      eish, what happened to work to put your self through university. a lot of people i know got through on a part time crappy job and bursaries awarded for good grades. but then again the begging bowl is an easier option.

      William - 2012-05-03 18:11

      @Piet: Work? For an education? Let's just be glad they aren't protesting outside the churches DEMANDING that God make them born with a PhD!!!

      Khwenyane - 2012-05-03 18:21

      free aducation means more burden to the taxpayers, we are working but all our salaries go to taxman, NSFAS is there andis a solution.

  • Cornelius - 2012-05-03 18:02

    I wonder where the government can get the money for free education. This is a populist policy with severe negative implication to the economy in the long run. Zimbabwe tried it but it only worked for few years.

      canibus.nelis - 2012-05-03 18:22

      Its still happenin' n even in kenya,i think u must remember dat 90% of our wealth is sill in whites n many young black lyk me we are eager 4 education south africa got money,n also it will benefit the economy cause really grade 12 ain't workin'

      aspruyt - 2012-05-03 18:32

      Grade 12 sure as hell is working out really good for me... Capacity is required, access to an higher education only makes it go faster. Experience will count in its place as long as you have capacity and ambition to further yourself.

      Smile - 2012-05-03 19:22

      canibus.nelis - Your figure is somewhat wrong, but in anycase Cornelius is right. Free education will never work. We should focus on developing schools/unervercities, building new ones... once we can gain enough votes against the ANC goverment and insure a true multipart democracy we will see the economy grow faster and the corruption die down. Then we will have a much higher GDP, allowing us to implement free education.

      Cornelius - 2012-05-03 19:23

      @ Canibus, this issue needs cool heads. Political emotions are not the basis of making government policy. Government policy must be sustainable for long period. Currently the government is doing enough thru social grants, any more social packages will lead to unintended results. Look what happened in Zim, the government had good intentions to distribute land but they achieved unintended results. Food for thought!

      Jeffrey - 2012-05-03 19:46

      @canibus.nelis, Judging by your command of English, I think you should try and complete primary school first, before you contemplate something a little bit higher.

      Thando - 2012-05-03 23:15

      Nationalisation........

  • aspruyt - 2012-05-03 18:27

    We demand this we demand that. A lot of demanding as always, yet no real contribution to society.

  • Wesley - 2012-05-03 18:31

    It is because very little of the ancyl members were at school or university that they don't know how it is working, there is actually people that must get paid to teach the rest

  • Sibusiso - 2012-05-03 18:34

    The truth is a normal working person doesn't afford education, I payed almost R350 000 for accommodation and school fees for my engineering degree at Tuks, which is one of the cheapest varsity in S.A. education is ridiculously expensive in this country, for both black and white people. Something has to be done with higher learning institutions fees. I'm sure with the money that goes to corrupt ANC officials something can be done

      Piet - 2012-05-03 18:45

      And I am sure you voted for them!

      Sibusiso - 2012-05-03 18:55

      Piet we talking about education here not who voted for who. This is a democratic country, anyone has a right to vote for whoever they want to vote for. Why are you questioning my vote?\r\nWhat do you think can be the solution to these high school fees piet ?

      Smile - 2012-05-03 19:15

      Well said Sibusiso... if we save money from corruption and highly paid incompetent ANC fools we can build more unervercitys, thus increasing supply and lowering demand! Vote DA!!!

      Thando - 2012-05-03 23:12

      Sbu in theory ths is one of th key areas wer nationalisation will assist th govmnt.....if properly implemented.....

      stereev - 2012-05-04 08:41

      Ha ha ha. thabo, that is such a stupid comment. how will nationalization lessen corruption? it will just mean more money to steal. also, primary school is free. High school is free. work hard. get a bursary for university. as usual, The yl is attacking an issue from the wrong side. Get grass root level education right first. Get teachers to actually teach. Give universities people worth teaching.

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-03 18:44

    Yes they are right !!! They will have skills that will help the economy and them selves :)) give the youth a better life then we had.remember the youth are our children !!!

  • Sibusiso - 2012-05-03 18:49

    What can be done is to make all the top 100 companies in S.A to give bursaries to a significant number of learner with good grades. Everyone that has good grades must get a sponsorship, anyway we need an educated youth so that our economy can grow

      Lacrimose - 2012-05-03 19:45

      All the top 100 and many besides have bursaries. Students are often not made aware by schools that they exist, nor do they understand that bursaries are awarded to the TOP Gr 12 graduates. So it starts at Grade 10 or even before. People need to know they're competing for a bursary - and do the work to ensure they qualify.

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-03 18:55

    Juju just left and finally I hear they are fighting for the right thing.education for all our youth!!! It's not black vs White it's the people vs the government!!we all want a better life.and before they spend our money on cars and houses the people must first have cars and houses!! We must watch them!!!

  • ansophie.krause - 2012-05-03 19:01

    Why this obsession with university????...Please march for the reopening of colleges...where people can do trades and become useful to the community..or is that below the honourable ANCYL members. There is this strange notion in this country that it's either a degree...or nothing..better to loaf around and get social grants than do honourable work!.University is not a joke...you have to work hard..do the people realise that?..Or are they going to march again because the universities are being spiteful by making them fail...when they get a Gg...Wake up...ANCYL please name one thing...just one thing that your organisation has ever done for the youth??????

  • Sibusiso - 2012-05-03 19:01

    Norway has the highest standard of living because of the affordable school fees and everyone is literate, only literacy can eradicate poverty, education must be affordable for everyone

      stereev - 2012-05-04 08:45

      Norway charges about 60% tax to about 90% of the population.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-05-03 19:05

    They have a valid point if that was the decision taken/promise made in 2007 then yes, 5 years and still no plan is unacceptable. Even in developed countries you will read of the escalating higher-edu crisis. Everywhere it costs too much, leaving the youth - our future leaders - unemployed and unemployable. So not just here but world-wide, something constructive has to be done to get young people educated, qualified and working. Just on a practical issue, if there's no tax revenue due to high-unemployment then the economy will start to collapse as the current tax-payers retire and there are fewer earners contributing to the fiscus

      Cyprian - 2012-05-03 21:17

      No educators mst b paid nw nd den... Nd dt 1 is compulsory, its government's duty isn't? Bt whn it cms 2 children.. Thy hv 2 b educated 4 free of charge cz som parrents r strugling 2 pay de fees

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-03 19:16

    Sibusiso you are right.if u have a good job you won't steal.and the more educated means more jobs created! This is something to fight for

  • Frans Lethoko - 2012-05-03 19:17

    i think thats gud idea,i am in salary level 3 but cant afford part time studies

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-05-03 19:20

    Mario most politicians have a good job yet they are the biggest thieves.

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-03 19:21

    If we leave something on this earth let's leave our children with a better life then we had.education is the answer to everything.and the south Africa that mr Madiba always wanted to see :)

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-03 19:23

    But were they properly educated? (mike)

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-03 19:25

    We cannot give up on the youth even if they are sometimes wrong.they are the future.and give some hope.

  • Bill - 2012-05-03 19:30

    Before we even think about tertiary education we need to sort out the mess that is primary and secondary education. A 30% pass mark in Matric is simply worthless and we are churning out illiterate, numerically challenged youngsters with no education that THINK they have sufficient learning to face the world. Our country needs a youth that has the literacy, numeracy, and scientific skills that will equip us to face the enormous challenges the future holds. Tertiary education is not a "right" - rather it should be earned by academic success at the lower levels. Sort out our Education Department! Sort out those politicians that are telling the youth that a 30% pass equips them for life - they are lying to our biggest asset, our young people!

      Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-03 19:33

      True that bill.

      Thando - 2012-05-03 23:07

      Th YL is advocating access to Quality education shud b a right NOT a privilege......basic nd tertiary. Yo marks r largly dependent on th quality of education u get, so dont discriminate sum1 who got poor quality education. All im sayn is tht free education shud b implemnted in phases for maximum efficiency....

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-03 19:36

    I'm really happy that the youth league are starting to bring up the right issues.it gives me hope :))

  • sanet.oelofse - 2012-05-03 20:01

    Once they dish out free education, the educators will leave the profession or even the country. Show me these people that will work for free or for peanuts.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-05-03 20:34

      sanet...free education won't mean teachers are not getting paid....no...they must and will still receive their pay....because the government must contribute funds for all schooling requirements.

      sanet.oelofse - 2012-05-03 20:57

      Sandra, then why are there so few educators currently, why are people leaving the profession? So, when teachers rely on state hand outs only, do you really think teaching will become more attractive? I would say definately not.

      Thando - 2012-05-03 22:59

      Sanet dnt b confused.....we do hv \no fee\ schools already.....we do hv sum aspects of free education in high schools. Th YL is advocating for free Quality education in institutions of higher learning. So th argument of teachers leavn th profession is non existant.......we have \free primary health care\ do u knw tht??......r our nurses being paid peanuts??

      sanet.oelofse - 2012-05-04 05:40

      I am fully aware of where my hard earned tax is supposed to go to, free everything for the masses. I do not think you are getting my point, quality tertairy education taught by who? Quality lecturers? Quality service of any sort is usually an expensive commodity. How about the YL league advocating commitment to education by the youth and governments grant bursaries for the achievers and not just hand it out to anyone that thinks they are entitled, because that's the biggest problem these days every one thinks they automatically qualify for a piece of the pie.

  • Thando - 2012-05-03 22:52

    Now thts more lyk it.......viva YL viva

  • Mario Bisogno - 2012-05-03 23:42

    Michael stop acting like u are perfect.funny how brave people are when they sit behind a computer.

      Thembanig - 2012-05-04 05:04

      I have paid attention to the manner in which my fellow South Africans debates national issues. They tend to be drawn across racial lines, which is unfortunate. I am not sure whether what i read here is written genuinely or its meant to create acrimony. I think the Youth League is raising fundamental issue here. Education is a right. Govt must ensure that people who meet requirements are able to pay fees. We should move from the basis that certain group of people can't get better education because that argument is flawed.

  • Nigel - 2012-05-04 08:17

    opportunists, where were you when the EC education system collapsed, or Limpopos, where!

  • pws69 - 2012-05-04 08:19

    ANCYL dictionary: Give Free Want the SUCCESSFUL world dictionary Work education save invest improve

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