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No solutions from Zille: ANC

2012-02-17 20:18

Cape Town - Western Cape Premier Helen Zille failed to give immediate solutions to poverty in her State of the Province speech, the provincial African National Congress said on Friday.

"What is worrying me a lot about this speech is that the premier did not speak about what is happening today in terms of poverty," ANC leader in the provincial legislature Lynne Brown said after the address.

"How are we going to combat poverty today in this province? What are we going to do to get rid of inequalities?"

Brown, the previous provincial premier, said Zille's speech did not have vision.

It seemed as though Zille thought everyone lived in the central business district, she said.

Zille announced three regeneration projects for the city on Friday.

Brown said: "Nothing is happening on the Cape Flats and nothing is going to happen in black residential areas."

There was also a lack of detail on provincial housing delivery, she said.

Zille should have said how many government-issued houses were going to be built for the year so it could be compared with the actually delivery at the end of 2012.

Brown had some good words about Zille's mention of the national government.

"I felt quite strongly that the premier, for the first time, has actually acknowledged the role of national government.

"She's also realising you can't work against national government. We must work together to ensure we are able to do the things that we so want to do in improving peoples' quality of life."

Comments
  • Yaw - 2012-02-17 20:28

    Lol gud comeback from Africa National Criminals

      PeggySven - 2012-02-18 04:14

      Maybe I missed something in Jacob Zuma's speech, but as far as I remember he did not have any immediate plans for, how did the ex premier put it? "What is worrying me a lot about this speech is that the premier did not speak about what is happening today in terms of poverty," ANC leader in the provincial legislature Lynne Brown said after the address. "How are we going to combat poverty today in this province? What are we going to do to get rid of inequalities?" She also said that the speech lacked vision as Zille had failed to mention how many government houses were to be built. I would have thought that as the budget for housing is allocated by central government, Provincial government can only build as many houses as they have money to build. What is even funnier is the fact that in every other province there is rampant corruption and lack of delivery, whereas in the Western Cape Service Delivery is rolled out as fast as the budget allows and 100% of the housing budget is spent every year with a clean audit report. Not heard of in any other province in South Africa. What a joke the CancER politicians are.

  • George - 2012-02-17 20:30

    anc are just looking for ideas. They have no idea even if it slaped them in the face

  • phathuchicos - 2012-02-17 20:34

    Politics...one language I fail to understand. Is about playing dirty and acusations or is it about delivering to the people who placed you on power?

      Jennifer - 2012-02-18 10:06

      Education Education Education!!! You are right Azanian, people are so busy scamming and dealing and they are not delivering. It seems they don't want people to be educated because it is hard to fool or manipulate educated people but educated people are the ones that create jobs.

  • mundu.olewega - 2012-02-17 20:41

    ...like its working so well in ANC run places. Why dont you just STFU Lynne.

  • Adrian - 2012-02-17 20:42

    There is no such thing as a free lunch, must this be a welfare state??????

  • lindz.kok - 2012-02-17 20:51

    yes the anc are full of empty promices but slow to deliver on them if ever! no matter how little i like zille and her super liberal party atleast she is realistic about how they plan to implement action without having to try and win over votes through lies like the beloved cANCer.

      Jeffrey - 2012-02-17 21:28

      Helen Zille must be getting things right as those on the political left think she is too far to the right, and those on the right think she is too far to the left. Being a Liberal is infinitely preferable to being an Afrikaner Nationalist or a Black Nationalist.

  • Mantsho - 2012-02-17 20:55

    ANC, party of denial, jelousy, corruption and poor leadership.

  • Geronimo - 2012-02-17 21:03

    Haha, as if the ANC can talk from their experience of poverty alleviation! This retort smacks of the ANC's increasing fear of the growing support of the DA.

  • Mona Grant - 2012-02-17 21:03

    Tell us ruling party in RSA, how are you going to combat poverty in this country? What are you going to do to get rid of inequalities, corruption, cover-ups, crime rate, shocking school systems, basic physical needs that are not met? What does the Bible say again about taking the splinter out your own eye first? Atleast the Western Cape is clean and tidy when you pass through it. We wonder why, Zille must being doing something right...

  • Assis Pontes - 2012-02-17 21:07

    And the ANC is the shining example of creating wealth that is though... only for the select few.

  • FaktotumZA - 2012-02-17 21:14

    These political parties makes me sick. The one takes the others comments and tries to win brownie points by showing out the others in-capabilities WTF rather work together to make the country a better place to live in then to stuff you're own pocket.

  • Rippedtulle - 2012-02-17 21:14

    She will get money spent on a poster campaign when she gets the answer. Don't question Godzille from Patriciaville otherwise you will get slammed and ignored just like her MP's does when you directly question them

  • Vicky - 2012-02-17 21:17

    and the ANC's immediate solution to poverty is?

  • ISO - 2012-02-17 21:21

    Tit for tat! Nothing wrong with that! Its a good thing, makes you want to proof the other party wrong.

  • sefeddt - 2012-02-17 21:26

    Ms Brown, as previous WC leader what did you do to alleviate poverty. The areas you mention do have issues, but are far better off now than when you were Premier.

  • nthabiseng.priklopil - 2012-02-17 21:34

    I applaud Zille with "SOME" of the achivement of good running of the province BUT mostly in the white predomentaly suburbs. One can't argue that fact. Very litte has been done to improve colourds and black townships. The difference is huge compared to Gauteng. Irene, take a drive one weekend and go to Strand township, Lwande and witness the shocking level of infrastructure. I've never seen such horrible houses. One house is subdivided into two. The street are so narrow it is a struggle to drive without the car on the other side making way for the other. If there should be an emergency where an ambulance is needed. That will be impossible to reach the house as there an no direct roads. There are no recreation centres or any of those facilities. She can therefore not be granted an overal victory of catering for all.

      Blip - 2012-02-18 01:38

      When you fix something in the "white" (not really) suburbs, it stays fixed because the residents value it, share it and look after it. When you fix something in the townships, the residents smash it by sundown and then they have to wait their turn for the next scheduled cyclical repair job and do without whhatever it is they've vandalised or stolen. People create their own urban environment, whether it's a tidy, pretty place or a grimy, filthy run-down slum.

      Eugene Smith - 2012-02-18 04:57

      Its all in the way we have been brought up. Coloured people are perceived to be people that doesn't appreciate anything being done for them. Build a play park for the kids in a coloured area and see what it looks like after two weeks. Give a poor family an RDP house and within 3 months there will be a wendyhouse or two or three in the backyard. ons hou van afbreek wat nie ons s'n is nie en dit maak my kwaad dat hulle 'n mondvol te se het oor ons het nie dit nie en ons het nie daai nie, maar as hulle dit kry, dan trek hulle dit deur hulle agterente!!!! Hulle gaan aan oor hulle nie werk het nie! Ek stap elke oggend oppad werk toe verby a swart man wat sy Niknaks en lekkers en goed op sy fiets laai en die industriele area ingaan om dit te verkoop om sodoende vir homself 'n inkomste te kry. Ons hou nie van werk soek nie. Ons wil 'n werk he wat ons genoeg betaal om Quiksilver T Shirts, Levy Jeans en Jordan skoene te kan dra.en ons wil dit nou he en ons wil nie naweke en vakansiedae werk nie want ons moet party met ons vriende en gesuip wees van Vrydag tot Sondag. Nevermind onder begin en actually daarvoor te werk, so nou sit ons maar by die huis na matriek en ons ouers moet maar hulle hande stompies werk om elke maand die Foschini en Edgars rekening te kan betaal.

      ISO - 2012-02-18 07:08

      @priklopil, where do you live? There are no more white suburbs, intergration is well in advance,you get all races in suburbs.Some townships across the country that are in dire staits, unfortuantly governments in all provinces cant give 100% attention (money) to these township. The problem is also thay people are streaming into the township, so the demand for housing and services just keeps on increasing. I dont think any province have a quick fix to these issues.

      Bibi - 2012-02-18 07:27

      @nthabiseng: Lwande was built long before the DP came to power. I just want to remind you about vandalism of recreational structures. I don't live in CT anymore, but my maid moved into a brand new RDP house at the beginning of 2011 with a little garden. Since then a corrugated iron structure was erected on that space for renting. the ANC pretty much did nothing while they were there. Valuable land were allocated for smart golf estates and developments during that time all through dodgy deals.

      pws69 - 2012-02-18 08:29

      When were these areas constructed? Under the ANC before 2009, or since then? Mmm, definitely not in the last two years. VERY ANC of you to blame someone else for your f@#kups.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-18 11:45

      Nthasibeng how would the DA build houses for all the people arriving in the Cape every day?. You are always on about white neighborhoods. I don't live far from Lwandle and let me tell you the roads are not much better where I am in a white neighborhood. So what do you want, smooth roads or running water?. Choices have to be made, it's about time you make a few too.

      Annelise - 2012-02-18 13:44

      As I am writing this I am looking over Lwandle in the Strand. I see two brand new schools and as far as the eye can see brand new two bedroom RDP houses, with solar heating. All this has been built in the last three years. So what was comment again on the DA not spending in the black areas?

      Enlightened - 2012-02-18 15:39

      you ever been to a Gauteng township? Not the fancy part we see on tv. The other 90 %. Go there an re comment. I can assure you they don't have recreational area either

      aletta.vanderwatt - 2012-02-19 14:07

      What a lot of drivel! I know Lwandle well and there are clinics, community centres, schools, tarred roads, markets and hundreds of houses with solar heating. One example of what happens though when all this infrastructure is provided: a particular community hall - first the ablution block was totally destroyed - roof tiles and timbers simply stolen. Then toilets, basins, taps, pipes vanished. Then the brick-paved entrance driveway disappeared, leaving gigantic potholes that filled with water in the rain, making it impossible to drive in for disabled pensioners to reach the hall for their free classes and meals. Then the walls around the centre disappeared bit by bit. What did the ANC coucillor do? He came and gushed over the poor old people, telling them it would all be fixed. Of course it wasn't. I was told by several ANC voters that his same councillor had had the previous councillor killed to ensure he got the post. Thank goodness for DA councillors in the area, though not directly responsible for Lwandle, who are trying to do whatever they can to contain destruction and provide new facilities. A beautiful big school nearby had had part of its roof blown off during the ANC's provincial tenure. Years went by as the whole of the school gradually fell to pieces, with the kids forced to go elsewhere. When the DA got into power it immediately rebuilt the school. What would have cost several thousand rands to repair originally now cost over R2 million.

  • jurgen.eksteen - 2012-02-17 21:39

    Well Brown, what is your plan to combat poverty immediately? Or should I ask, what have you done with your time in office already ... other than leave the metro in a financial mess, to combat poverty? Stop criticizing things that you obviously know nothing about.

  • Bra - 2012-02-17 21:48

    The cycle of poverty in western cape will never broken down with Zille....viva ANC viva..DOWN da DOWN

      Anele - 2012-02-17 21:57

      bra, i dont think the state of affairs in the WC is indicative of Zille's strength of leadership. Rather, it shows what a good foundation the ANC laid in Nomaindia Mfeketwas days that they are where they are now. if anything, only suburban areas in the WC have gone from strength to strength and the black and coloured areas are stagnating and are not growing due to her and her govt overlooking the destitute and who really need the help. and before you thumbs down me, think about ONE good thing Zille has done for blacks and coloureds and tell me.

      Jason - 2012-02-17 21:59

      Because the anc has such a good record of changing poverty in the rest of country... Da have improved overall conditiin in the western cape anc had how many years and managed to lose the majority because of that... Look at eastern cape and natal to see how bad things can get.

      Jason - 2012-02-17 22:06

      love how some people point out the poverty in cape town like conditions inthe rest of the country is fantastic... Have u been to alex or deepsloot recently no poverty at all.. Kids in parks, well maintained roads just fantastic place for the poor to live!

      Anele - 2012-02-17 22:20

      Jason boet, i live in Durban and have seen first hand the difference over the past ten years in plces like Kwamashu, Chesterville, Clermont etc. they may not be anywhere close to being a long street but the strides made in those areas and plenty others are there for all to see. only those with their DA blinkers on think that there has been no progress anywhere else in the country.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-17 22:48

      @ Bra and Anele. Facts (google it) Last election stats for DA. Blacks 30.3% Coloureds 37.8% whites 29.7% Asians and unknown 2.2%. Now explain to me why people think that it is only the rich white who called the tune in the last election. These figures were obtained from a extensive post mortem directly after the elections. Its the blacks and coloureds that are poor that have benefited and will keep on getting attention. Why did the DA take Midrand.. an ANC. stronghold..answer, for the same reason.

      Jacqui - 2012-02-18 11:50

      Anele, what a load of codswollop. How do you fix something neglected for years when the inhabitants are to lazy to take a broom and sweep or rent out their backyard for illegally build shacks. Or worse move into the shack and rent out the house they have been given to foreigners?. Start at home bro' and then your world can also go from strength to strenth.

  • WigzellRM - 2012-02-17 22:09

    "Western Cape Premier Helen Zille failed to give immediate solutions to poverty in her State of the Province speech, the provincial African National Congress said on Friday." Well the ANC hasn't done too good so far....18 odd years and zip.

  • Glyn - 2012-02-17 22:18

    Lynn Brown failed to see. Period. The anc is on the way down. They failed to see.

  • Glyn - 2012-02-17 22:21

    Why do all those Eastern Cape people come to the Western Cape? Because it is a better place to live.

      Hugo - 2012-02-18 08:03

      why does every one else go to Jozi

      ashwin.lallo - 2012-02-18 08:37

      Mostly the whites with all their wealth.In cape town their kingdoms are protected.

  • Rebaone - 2012-02-17 22:22

    It is good that she did not give a solution towards poverty as she does not want to make empty promises like the ANC did on the state of the nation address.

  • Adam Burgoyne - 2012-02-17 22:40

    well seen as her province has been run well so far and she is doing great i would not complain feed the homeless to the hungry! oh ya and since 94 the ANC has only screwed the people and made them hungry and homeless!

  • Liezl - 2012-02-17 22:40

    I haven't seen any solutions for the Free State... or Gauteng... or Kwazulu Natal.. or Mpumalanga either.. Maybe because there isn't.

      Hugo - 2012-02-18 08:04

      when was the last time you went to Neilspruit?have you ever been to Soweto?

  • Glyn - 2012-02-17 23:15

    What did Lynne Brown do when she was in office? Zip!!!

  • Blip - 2012-02-18 01:33

    "Immediate solutions for poverty" simply don't exist. And when the ANC ran Western Cape, they didn't even have any long-term solutions for poverty either. On their watch the poverty in Western Cape only got worse.

      Enlightened - 2012-02-18 15:31

      Where do you get you facts from? For starters, the DA are still running he W.C. And yes, there are no short term solutions to poverty but they're a darn site better than anywhere else in SA If I'm wrong, tell me where I can look it up and PROVE me wrong

  • Cedric Papa-Junior Kgatla - 2012-02-18 07:03

    Well Zile can't adress porvety issue coz 95% of people living in porvety are blacks! Racism and discrimination.......Anc could to better but its also corrupted..

      Jacqui - 2012-02-18 11:53

      Yes, Cedric and what are the 95% doing about it?. Other than complain that is.

      Gerhard - 2012-02-18 12:52

      Why don't you and your ilk get together and clean up the suburbs you live in?

  • Bibi - 2012-02-18 07:21

    Huh? the article lower down says 'Zille zooms in on poverty". Ms Brown has done nothing for the poor while she was in charge. Except saddle CT with that new stadium that nobody wants.

      Hugo - 2012-02-18 08:06

      speak for yourself,some of us just love that masterpiece

      Bibi - 2012-02-18 12:37

      Help youself Hugo and while you at; maintain and finance it. Can you imagine what it would have done for the Athlone community to have that stadium upgraded, but the area was not posh enough for the ANC. the stadium in greenpoint is too far to help any poor community.

  • pws69 - 2012-02-18 08:27

    Lynne Brown is obviously spending too much time at the food table, and not enough time doing her job. The DA produced a 90 odd page document OVER A YEAR ago on how to change legislation to massively fast track housing delivery. It takes THREE YEARS just to get through the red tape to start building. NATIONAL GOVERNMENT red tape, not provincial. The ANC, unsurprisingly, ignored the DA. "What are we going to do to get rid of inequalities" - Lynn Brown. Lynne, no surprises that you lost the WC. You DON'T build businesses in residential areas, but in BUSINESS District . My 12 year old understands that. You DO improve education to make people EMPLOYABLE. A R250 pm grant does NOTHING to narrow inequalities, but the ANC proudly boasts about 6 million support 15 million grant recipients. In a DA world, it is 20 million support 1 million grant recipients. SO considering that: BEST education results: DA WC HIGHEST employment grownth: DA WC Most improvements in poor schools. DA WC You see, Brown, the DA is not about rhetoric and false promises, but ACTIONS. I think the last year has spoken quite loudly, but your ANC ear mufflers are obviously firmly in place, and your eyes blinkered.

  • Lesley - 2012-02-18 08:51

    The anc in the western cape will only be happy when all the whites are living in shacks. They do not have a clue on how to run a business.

  • Bibi - 2012-02-18 11:09

    pierre uys that work with lynne brown did some of the most dodgy land deals ever. Sensitive land made way for golf estates and other estates for the rich.

  • Jacqui - 2012-02-18 11:39

    Lynne Browne should do something about her memory, it is seriously flawed. What did she and the ANC do for poverty when she was the biggest drummer?.

  • pieter.haasbroek - 2012-02-18 12:15

    Perhaps Zille is waiting for the ANC to take the lead and set examples so Zille can follow and turn the WC in as much of a huge success story as all the ANC-led provinces? Or perhaps Zille is simply clueless and waiting for Lynne Brown to share her insights and miracle solutions so Zille can piggyback on Brown's wisdom and immediately solve all of WC problems?

  • Sarel Brits - 2012-02-18 15:04

    All I can say to the ANC “sapottas” is “LIMP PO PO”, kry vir julle

  • Enlightened - 2012-02-18 15:35

    Where do you get you facts from? For starters, the DA are still running he W.C. And yes, there are no short term solutions to poverty but they're a darn site better than anywhere else in SA If I'm wrong, tell me where I can look it up and PROVE me wrong

  • Anthony - 2012-02-19 07:57

    AND NO SOLUTIONS FROM THE A N C

  • ofentse.j.mokae - 2012-02-19 14:57

    Lynn Brown together with her colleagues in the legislature should just swallow their pride and PAY CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. I know this can be very difficult for any politician, but if her ANC colleagues in the national government are able to recognise the good work done by the DA aministration in the province that should not be too difficult for her. This will make her a credible leader and a good politician, not the NON-SENSE she's is going on about.

  • hugocoetzee.cpt - 2012-02-19 19:38

    Dear Mrs Brown, did you actually get to read the press release before it was released? I mean, really!! I remember listening to your speeches.

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