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Nzimande slams ANCYL marches

2011-10-17 09:32

Johannesburg - SA Communist Party general secretary Blade Nzimande has urged members of the ANC Youth League not to participate in planned marches for economic freedom, the Sowetan reported on Monday.

Nzimande said youth league members should not participate in "any march that will not make a difference" in their lives.

"Do not allow yourselves to be used by people with agendas that are not in your interest," the newspaper quoted him as saying at the SACP's 6th provincial congress in northern KwaZulu-Natal.

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"We are not going to be supporting any march whose intention is malicious and is to undermine the authority of the ANC and the government."

The Economic Freedom Youth Mass Action would be held on October 27 and 28 at Beyers Naude Square in central Johannesburg, the Chamber of Mines in Hollard street, the Johannesburg Stock Exchange in Sandton and at the Union Buildings in Pretoria, where a night vigil was planned.

The ANCYL would march for the nationalisation of mines, the expropriation of land without compensation, the banning of labour brokers, free education, decent housing, electricity for all formal and informal settlements and clean drinking water and sanitation.

Last week, the Congress of SA Trade Unions said it would join the ANCYL.

According to the Sowetan, the Young Communist League provincial organising secretary Mlondolozi Mkhize said its members would not participate in the march because it was aimed at undermining the ANC.

Mkhize said the march was a "struggle by [youth league leader Julius] Malema to demonstrate" how he can organise young people to insult the ANC and the government.

Comments
  • Ian - 2011-10-17 09:44

    economic freedom, dont you mean economic starvation!!! what you dimwits know about running an economy and business sense your hero knows about woodwork. STUFF ALL

      Ann - 2011-10-17 10:48

      Julius is behind the stirring - it's also around the time of his next appearance before the "committee" http://www.ancyl.org.za/show.php?id=8085

      Michael - 2011-10-17 11:00

      And who gets to pay for all these "free" things? Oh yes sorry I forgot - must be the goose who laid the golden eggs :P

      nikondaniel - 2011-10-17 11:20

      I hope they use a lot of rubber bullets and teargas on them.

  • janjac.gilbert - 2011-10-17 09:46

    Marching but too lazy to work and study. They are bitter because of who and what they are.

  • Hlamalani - 2011-10-17 09:47

    what a mess!

  • Naphtaly - 2011-10-17 09:48

    VIVA ANCYL DOWN NZIMANDE FORWARD ANCYL FORWARD.

      Ian - 2011-10-17 09:59

      if your hero does get nationalisation right which he wont,(too stupid) what are you clowns going to do when your hero is in his bunker smashed on premium alcohol and snorting as much coke as possible while you lot starve, or cant you think that far forward, can you think at all? What a bunch, the lack of common sense in your comment amazes me

      Gavin - 2011-10-17 10:05

      I really feel sorry for you.

      Kent - 2011-10-17 10:06

      meeting new people all over the world is one of your interests? - Won't happen if you continue thinking like this. You are also working for a German based company 'Würth' - what do you think happens they read what you think - they probably kick you out! Your Facebook page and your immature comments don't go hand in hand - Think before you speak!

      colin.dovey - 2011-10-17 10:09

      Forward? To what? - no jobs, no hope, no money (oh sorry, I forgot, your "leader" has got it all)no education, no roads, no hospitals, no buses, no factories (the Chinese do that for you), no mines (all nationalised and now bankrupt like the one near Springs)no police (the chief is being sent to Canada as an Ambassador. Make your choice - mine is people like Lindiwe Mazibuko - she is an example of what you chanting, ranting marching timewasters could use, and benefit. Slogans mean NOTHING. Talk is cheap.

      Dudleygbu - 2011-10-17 10:30

      unfortunately the majority think like this r-soul, so , I agree with the comment above...WHAT A MESS....South Africa is doomed to the same fate as the rest of Africa...warlords, plundering, raping, murdering, stealing Nothings changed.....

      Bryan - 2011-10-17 10:50

      And the stupid award for today goes to...., wait...., You guessed it people...Naphtaly!!!!! Have a sign!!

      Inga - 2011-10-17 11:38

      Idiots

      Paul - 2011-10-17 12:51

      Forward as opposed to not being 'backwards'?? Good idea!

  • cj.venter - 2011-10-17 09:49

    all non whites were surpressed by the former government, why are blacks the only ones not educated and making wealth for themselves? i know many indians and coloureds that are wealthy, what happened? oh right, they worked for it!

      msendi - 2011-10-17 11:15

      You are too blind to see. Not all Africans (those you call blacks) are uneducated.

      spookhuis - 2011-10-17 13:13

      msendi , that was cj venters point, some did, some choice not too.

  • Brenda - 2011-10-17 09:49

    At least someone speaks sense. How will marching solve any of the issues that have been raised? Some people are too retarded and are just beyond help now.

  • Blip - 2011-10-17 09:54

    Oh, the irony! A top communist, supposedly committed to Marx's dictum of "the workers' control of the means of production" and of "the dictatorship of the proletariat" slapping down Malema -- an avowed hater of communism and a capitalist tenderpreneur -- for wanting nationalisation of monopoly capital! Exactly what Marx suggested!

  • Bryan - 2011-10-17 09:58

    Any reason to Toyi toyi and be a menace to society..!! Why not stay at work/school etc and do something constructive for a change... Bunch of oxygen thieves!!

  • stephen.townshend1 - 2011-10-17 10:03

    I would wager the these youths are not thinking of nationalisation, expropriation, labour brokers, etc. It's about having a big party at taxpayer's expense.

  • mathasemasase - 2011-10-17 10:14

    Economic freedom? I don`t think so, I think is Malima`s freedom since he want to be the president of the Country by speaking nonsense, and now they shut his hooter down for a while, So he needs that hooter again, in the name of Economic freedom.

  • Johan - 2011-10-17 10:16

    the youth is getting outa hand Blade - seems to me the Anc structure's needs to be re adressed. The youth is running riot and doing the ANC more harm then good . . . . . .

  • magomarele - 2011-10-17 10:18

    Malicious and hidden agendas advanced by reactionary forces.

  • Fakmore - 2011-10-17 10:27

    We support protests in Libya and Syria and Egypt....not in South Africa. South Africa is free. All we need is NATO to come and liberate us and bomb us like they did Libya with the support of South Africa

  • elias.tabane - 2011-10-17 10:29

    & who r is blade after all?

  • Vince.York - 2011-10-17 10:36

    Someones cozy remuneration package and perks and benefits with expensive cars and lots of liquor being threatened by any chance Blade? By now even you should have garnered great profit in cash and non traceable movable assets, bypassing even the suddenly onerous ANC non-Trust Fund methods of redistribution of wealth BUT WHERE TO PLACE IT ALL? (that teeny commission cut off RTrillions & RBillions that you are all so good at). Sexwale's islands in Mozambique bear no security or interest. Cubans will steal the lot before it even clears transfer to uplift the collective much as these youth want here in SA in principle but in reality each wants what kwa_zuma has taken. Lichtenstein, Switzerland & Spain will freeze them within hours! Arabia is short of funds and it will disappear to further the cause of islamic colonisation of African and the culling of yourself.! Mugabe's method in the east doesn't work any longer as it also has become overly expensive so it will need to be with a "reliable and trustworthy AFRICAN nation and entity" as a last resort. How about investing it in Swaziland or Lesotho or even SA. :-)

  • anguslepine - 2011-10-17 10:44

    Ian, Janjac and others; your statements project an aggressive and counterproductive tone that is used to reinforce JM support .He deliberately focuses his argument at the uneducated by promising solutions for their poor quality of life. I know this is condescending but they don’t understand the economic consequences of JM outrageous suggestions. They only see the potential benefits that are very well communicated to them by a very charismatic public speaker who nick names himself Robin Hood. If i was poor and uneducated i would also blindly support the only person whose job it is to increase support for ANC through promises of hope and using the race card. My point is, you are fuelling his fire and playing right into his hands by publically writing he is stupid, fat, lazy and worst of all writing STUFF ALL. Don’t react! Wait for the people to start calling for delivery on his hollow promises and let the ANC continue to strangle themselves as foreign investments continues to drop at an alarming rate as a direct result of the JM nationalisation argument. ANC are shooting themselves in the foot as unemployment and poverty increase and they try find new ways to tax the minority to try sustain the country. I’m afraid South Africa must go down this route and the poor, uneducated majority must see first-hand how JM is based on hollow promises and a destructive strategy to increase support. Rather use reason and concern guys not aggression and dividing statements!

  • phumlani.buthelezi2 - 2011-10-17 10:51

    HaHA IT LOOKS LIKE THER IS NO ONE WHO CAN STOP MALEMA

  • errol.wagner - 2011-10-17 10:58

    They want all these things and who do they think if going to pay for it? Well, they can steal from those who have worked for what they have, but how long will it last? And then? What short sightedness, what irresponsiblity but then we should not be surprised because for years this was the philosophy the liberals profounded and the chickens are coming home to roost.o

  • Anthony - 2011-10-17 11:00

    intresting---- 1]-dont trust blade he is the head of sacp and not supporting this-why does he wear two hats [did he suddenly get sharp--i dont think so] 2]lets hope the instant billionaire tokyo sexwale will lead the march with his fat friend jub jub--'give him another chance' tokyo this will give your wealth a positive shot in the arm 3]zuma and anc start worrying, the masses are starting to turn on you-- your inability to run the country and provide services is starting to cost you [and us]dearly 4] sadly these things will not rest untill the have destroyed this country in the belief that they deserve every thing for free 5]there must be a reason that in london ,paris and new york these people are badly thought of sadly i see black days ahead

  • africanwolf - 2011-10-17 11:10

    Economic freedom means opening more factories and sending the Chinese back home unless they bring equipment and open factories in SA (which they won't do) because it will deprive their own people of jobs. half of Zimbabwe's population are now in SA {illegally) they destroyed their own economy, and now occupy SA working places. send them back to rebuild what they have destroyed. then there will be enough jobs for SA citizens

  • Waldemar - 2011-10-17 11:42

    The expropriation of land without compensation ????* LAND..? Blacks NEVER owned any land. Any form of formal ownership is a Western concept. You cannot take back something from somebody IF YOU NEVER HAD IT..! In fact, what is it that white people, specifically white men, supposed to "give back" to black people..?

  • Oliver - 2011-10-17 11:47

    It never ceases to amaze me how ANCYL supporters use this and other platforms to spew forth racist platitudes and the same old 'viva ANCYL viva' mantra without putting forward any good arguments for nationalisation. perhaps this is because history shows that nationalisation ALWAYS creates a layer of super rich elites AT THE EXPENSE of the poor. what? malema cares about the poor? i think breitling watches, mercedes benzes, slush funds and mansions say otherwise...

  • Pamela - 2011-10-17 11:51

    Will support the march for I believe that Nationalisation of mines will help our economy, currently we are only relying on tax payers money ,I believe if 10 0r 20 % of the mines can belong to the country there can be a great change in our country, rather than taking all our wealth to private investors who dnt care obout SA only to enrich themselves ,pple mst share

      africanwolf - 2011-10-17 12:11

      Agreed but why nationalise mines that already exist? start new mines it will create more jobs and wealth don't take what is already there, (I KNOW IT IS EASY) create and build new mines, there is enough resources in SA

      Omrisho - 2011-10-17 12:22

      pamela, those mining houses pay tax to the government, when they are nationalised they won't

      Oliver - 2011-10-17 12:30

      please, cite some evidence for nationalisation helping economies, providing prolonged positive change for the poorest of the poor

      Pamela - 2011-10-17 13:07

      @ Ormisho jst check how much these mining companies make annually versus the tax they pay here in our country ,I can clearly say its an insult to our Country.Its not that they wnt to take all the mines but a certain percentage of each and every existing mine is that really bad. Currently @ ethokoza there are sink-holes bcoz of these mines how is the government going to compensate those pple, the greedy continuing to enrich themselves while putting lives of poor ppl @ stake. @ Oliver look @ Dubai with their oil its nt the only country....

      sven.gohre - 2011-10-17 13:31

      Pamela, I am sure the people of Dubai will be pleased that you have discovered oil for them. Dubai does not have oil, the rest of the United Arab Emerites does. Dubai has made it's money from being a tax-free hub and the tourist capital of the UAE. As for Nationalisation of the mines, the capital that is sunk into these mines is in the Billions of Dollars, the profits these mines make, does not take into consideration the money already sunk into the venture, by means of share purchases, and the tax that is paid to the government is far more than will be received by the country after Nationalisation. In fact, if government has to underwrite the operational costs and the investments to break new ground, the government and the people will be out of pocket. A little research is called for on your side of the argument.

      Pamela - 2011-10-17 15:44

      @sven.gohre my apology surely I must hv misread something as I am not from Dubai,I am just a lay men who knows nothing about economics however would back up Nationalisation of Mines in our country, by doing so I believe I am helping the next generation to benefit from the riches of their Land its nt about black & white its about doing what is right for the country as the past freedom fighters did for us to be free. This is a free country everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion,we may just wait for the result. bt stl 100% behind Nationalisation of mines whether it happens now or in the next 50 years bt it will happen.

      Deon - 2011-10-18 10:48

      Mines are privately owned, gov. does not have enough money to buy them out. By buying these mines we also remove tax payers.

  • Harry - 2011-10-17 12:06

    The problem is that we all give Malema to much of credit. Malema is a populist who will say and do anything for fame. He does not understand political ideology or economic policy. We need to be smarter. Malema realized that his biggest supporters are unemployed youth who also do not understand economics. So, he tells them that the mines belong to the people of the country and foreigners are stealing our natural resources and that it should belong to them - the people. He does not tell them that it will actually belong to Government which means that it also to the white people that he called criminals. He does not tell them is how they (his supporters) are going to get any money out of the mines that "they now will own". The reality is that we have to provide a viable alternative to the poor unemployed people who do not have any hope. We need to reduce our over complicated economic policy arguments to simple Rands and cents issues for the man in the street. We also need to show them in Rands and cents why Following Malema is not going to get them any more money. The core issue is not a nationalisation debate, but how do we address imbalances in the country. Nationalisation is just a populist term being used by Malema as the solution.

      Anthony - 2011-10-17 12:23

      i agree harry--but is this not the responsibility if the anc government--if poeple have hope the future is positive --how do u give people hope ,by giving theem jobs -who does this --the government -- south africas NO 1 PRIORITY IS JOBS FOR THE UNEMPLOYED

  • Pamela - 2011-10-17 12:24

    Lets put aside black & white and concentrate on the future of this country, this is not about Malema @ all its about us South African and what are we doing to alleviate poverty, We should learn to be open minded nation and stop judging pple from their stupid utterances they hv made in the past,I believe @ one point of our lives we hv said stupid things.

  • Skhanyo - 2011-10-17 13:57

    Blade is nothing but a disgrace to the Communist agenda! How can anyone who calls himself a communist proudly take a stand against nationalization? Moreover, last year he bought the most expensive car with the taxpayers money,but that did not make the people realize that the guy has his own agenda not the communist one...it is my understanding that the communist party should have spearhead the call for nationalization, but to my surprise they are doing the opposite..how pathetic...It should be clear to everyone that in RSA we do not have a communist party! by the way, they, SACP, seem to have forgotten the definition of communism.

  • shana.bomvu - 2011-10-17 15:27

    Maybe Blade was not given an account while he was a student and complete his degree black-listed, that's why it's not going to be easy to understand the magnanimity of this march, @Mkhize, you're a drop in the ocean full of water, so it's Ok! be free to come and join, 'cos you seem to enjoy the moving train than to be there when it's being started

  • desire.scheepers - 2011-10-17 15:33

    If there is less corruption there would be more available funds for the nation. Now, once again the few paying for the masses...

  • Skhanyo - 2011-10-17 19:32

    I find it very strange that people let Nzimande get away with his conspicuous idea of taking a stand against nationalization. Such an idea as his is in direct conflict with s4.1 of the SACP constitution. To my surprise no one has noticed that...Blade is not a communist, he is just a capitalist!! I hope I do not have to remind anyone that last year he bought an imported expensive car with millions of taxpayers, and provided no explanation whatsoever.

      africanwolf - 2011-10-18 05:10

      Every communist becomes capitalist after gaining some wealth Communism is just a tool, to get everything for nothing. been there already. ask all people who lived in the USSR and worked all their lives for something that can't and will not exist.

  • pmonang - 2011-10-21 09:37

    What has happened to Blade. He sounds more and more like a capitalist. Is it because of the post he was given to silence him. Phanzi CAPITALISTS Phanzi

  • Michael - 2011-10-24 14:44

    Why are we not exposing good government programs that aim at creating jobs like the Jobs Fund, SEDA STP, Tourism Enterprise Program, Cooperatives Incentive Scheme, Innovative Funds, etc to our unemployed masses. We can help in drafting business proposals and plans. Structures like NYDA, Economic Development, Dti should start quantifying their impact.

  • robert.syme1 - 2011-10-27 07:34

    Ha ha Julius march to Pretoria, he can't he's too fat. Julius Malema can't even march from Joburg city to Latuli House. It may take him a month to reach Pretoria by that time he's not even an ANC member. This is Julius's last waltz good bye. Rob

      Motaung - 2011-10-31 22:37

      Robert there is no man who think like you in this world. just keep everything you wanna say to yourself, please, not interesting.

  • Motaung - 2011-10-31 22:13

    COMRADE BLADE NZIMANDE HAS GOT FREEDOM ECONOMICALY BY FORCING THE CREATION OF THE MINISTER OF HIGHER EDUCATION AND TRANING. OF ALL LEADERS WHO LED SACP BEFORE HIM, HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO IS TOTALLY LOST AND MENTALLY DISTURBED DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE LOST COMMUNIST FOCUSS.HE IS A LOOSE CANNON THAT SHOOT IN ANY DIRECTION THAT HOLD THOSE HE CLAIMS TO SERVE, THE POOREST OF THE POOR.MY COMRADELY WARNING TO YOU IS: GET OUT WHILST YOU STILL CAN. BEWARE" NZIMANDE" A TROJAN HORSE IS COMING TO TAKE SACP BY FORCE. YOU RUN SACP LIKE YOU ARE RUNNING THE EXPENSIVE 5 STAR HOTELS THAT YOU SLEEP IN WHILE YOU ARE TASTING ALL EXPENSIVE WINES.YOU USED TO BE A RESPECTED LEADER WITH OPINION FROM THE TEACHINGS OF SLOVO, HANI AND OTHERS BUT THAT WAS TEACHINGS TO A WASTE LAND. ANCYL IS THE ONLY MOUTH PIECE OF THE MAJORITY. THERE IS NO MORE COMMUNISM IN BLADE, A PURE BRUTAL CAPITALIST WITH ALL HIDDEN AGENDA TO ASSASINATE THOSE WHO DIFFERS WITH HIM.NOW USING PRESIDENT ZUMA TO CLING TO THAT POST AS A PLATFORM TO ATTACK THOSE YOU SEE AS A THREAT, UTILIZING STATE MACHINERY TO SILENCE OTHERS. IT SEEMS SO FAR BUT IT IS SO NEAR.

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