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Police fire rubber bullets again

2011-08-30 14:46

Johannesburg - Police again fired rubber bullets at ANC Youth League supporters in Johannesburg on Tuesday when rioters attacked a police nyala.

A group of about 25 people had climbed on top of a nyala, singing and dancing with sticks in their hands.

Rubber bullets were fired to get them off the armoured vehicle.

Some schoolchildren were shouting that they were not scared to fight for youth league leader Julius Malema, who was facing a disciplinary hearing alongside several other top youth leaders at Luthuli House on Tuesday.

Streets at standstill

A man, who said he was one of Malema's lawyers but did not want to give his name to journalists, arrived at Beyers Naude square and was seen cheering on the rioters.

The crowd continued to grow in numbers and police on the scene said all the main streets in the city had come to a standstill.

Police members were standing lined up on President street, opposite rioters who had lined up on the other side and who were throwing rocks and fruit, such as oranges, at the law enforcement officials.

Some were seen breaking bricks into halves and throwing them.

Photographers were trying to sneak pictures while hiding behind pillars, while some ANCYL supporters had clambered into trees for a better view.

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Comments
  • Shnez - 2011-08-30 14:53

    DISGUSTING!!!!! Such a disgrace! Look what you have created ANC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      saabnut - 2011-08-30 15:04

      Completely predictable. The day of reckoning for those that lied in order to secure their votes and gravy train seats, is here. TRUE democracy is such a lekker thing!

      RonJeremy - 2011-08-30 15:10

      This is disgusting. The ANCYL should all be arrested and thrown in jail for breaking the law and rioting. Disgraceful advertisment for South Africa. Disgraceful ANCYL !!!

      AirAction - 2011-08-30 15:11

      At last the anc can see what they have created. Maybe they will get voted out of power.

      Snys - 2011-08-30 15:13

      JZ knew what was coming...can't face the music, so he decided to go and hide! Even the vice president took the road!

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-08-30 15:20

      The ANCYL should be 'Youth'inased....Don't you agree, Magdalene Moonsamy ?

      Bloodbane_2 - 2011-08-30 15:22

      @Succubus - LOL

      Rob Gunning - 2011-08-30 15:40

      not suprising in the slightest.

      Megan - 2011-08-30 15:42

      LiciousDee. You still have reason to be proud of your skin colour. While there seem to be quite a few blacks out there who are hellbent on discrediting themselves, certainly not interested in anything that's equal and will just as quickly turn on their own members as they will blame the whites and apartheid for all of their failures. There are actually some of us white people who are perfectly capable of distinguishing between race and a kind of mentality. I do not believe that these people are creating anarchy because of their skin colour, but because of their way of thinking, because of unintelligent brains that are incapable of thinking first, because violence is EASY, while productivity is hard work. That does not mean to say that their behaviour is a reflection on YOU. You hold you head high, you be proud of your skin colour and you work hard to achieve your goals. Don't let these barbarians be an excuse to think anything else - just know that at the end of the day, you and so many other black people, some who I either know personally or have seen comment on these forums, have a reason to be proud. And SA needs people like you to let the other blacks know that you really can get what you want, you just have to work for it.

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-30 16:01

      .."Africa-democracy" in action...!! ....chaos everywhere...!! ....he he he he he he he he he ..!!!

  • Jacques Kirchner - 2011-08-30 14:54

    Sad, but true. Chaos reigns supreme in Africa. We are on a non-stop ride to becoming one of Africa's next basket cases. :(

  • Schalk - 2011-08-30 14:54

    It would be interesting to try and quantify the monetary impact of Julius Malema on the country. All considered, it must billions of Rands already. Sad how one man can cost a country so much...

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-30 15:27

      About $15bn. (R100bn+). A lot of companies and people have even left the country because of his rants.

  • Heinrich - 2011-08-30 14:56

    What???!! School children???!! Do they even know what nationalization means? Then again the fact that Mr Malema is suggesting is implies he doesn't know either!

  • Mr. Fusion - 2011-08-30 14:56

    They don't work but have new printed t-shirts and plackards obviously sponsored by the ANC douche league - They must be disbanded

  • Louis Cipher - 2011-08-30 14:56

    Malema now has a following he cannot disappoint. Or he will be next...

      bob - 2011-08-30 15:02

      unfortunately history repeats itself, that's exactly what will happen

  • Henk van Tonder - 2011-08-30 14:59

    Insurrection against the State in any civilised country will minimally secure a long jail sentence. Insurrection against the State in a 3rd world country will secure death by firing squad. In South Africa anyone can launch an attack on the State and call it political engagement.

  • happycamper - 2011-08-30 15:00

    Ha ha ha ha...welcome back racism.....27 years in prison for nothing Mr. Mandela.

  • Thukza - 2011-08-30 15:01

    It seems this Juju is bigger than the ANC now.

      Bloodbane_2 - 2011-08-30 15:04

      fatter yes...

      Verbatim - 2011-08-30 15:09

      Yep, and you voted him in...hahahahahahahahahahaha

      Joanne Wroblewski - 2011-08-30 15:32

      not the pap.. the beer!

      Manyoza - 2011-08-30 15:33

      It is still not too late for the ANC to try and salvage some credibility, but they have to deal with Juliarse Mal-enema and his stooges decisively.

      Vullis - 2011-08-30 15:34

      It is because of Apartheid that Julius is fat

  • Paul - 2011-08-30 15:03

    they should have left the rubber bullets at home

      RonJeremy - 2011-08-30 15:13

      Should have.

      Vullis - 2011-08-30 15:35

      could have

      Rob Gunning - 2011-08-30 15:44

      didn't

  • tennilleg - 2011-08-30 15:03

    I bet all the rioters were paid with free t-shirts, anc flags and chicken licken vouchers to kick up a stink.

  • Anup Jalota (Wannabe) - 2011-08-30 15:04

    What a waste of a good orange!

  • Pixie1984 - 2011-08-30 15:06

    Pathetic. I bet half of them are just causing chaos for the fun of it and not in actual support of anything.

      Newbie - 2011-08-30 15:25

      I think so too. Watching the TV some of them look like they are there just for the day to pass quickly because they have nothing to do. There are school kids, tsotsi looking who do not look like they know what a disciplinary hearing is.

  • Muzi - 2011-08-30 15:06

    The sad reality is that chaos is the only leverage ANCYL supporters have to get attention. Similar to the unions representing gov employees. You see, if you are employed in the private sector your leverage is your absence from work which affects profits and put pressure on your employer to act on your grief... BUT, if ANCYL demonstrated peacefully and obeyed all the rules, the ANC would suspend Julius, He will join the peacefull demonstrators and no one will suffers & therefore no further action would be required. If a municipal worker does not report for work and have a peacefull strike and not litter, the municipal managers can wait a year as they don't loose a thing. Only poor taxpayers loose. It is the same as going to war. You know shooting and bombing is not a solution but you use it anyway to get some sort of leverage cause if you don't, an illigimate gov can complete a full term in office like its happening in Zim.... Its sad, but true...

      Manyoza - 2011-08-30 15:38

      Wize words Muzi. The ANC can still fix this mess. They need to urgently demonstrate the leadership qualities they always talk about, and this must manifest in decisive action. But they know this, the real question is - DO THEY HAVE THE BALLS TO DEAL WITH ANCYL, and handle the fall-out which is sure to follow if Juliarse Malenema is expelled.???

      Andrew Cleveland - 2011-08-30 15:50

      You make a good point Muzi. I'm not an ANC supporter and I'm certainly not an ANCYL supporter but I understand why Malema has become so popular. He speaks to the masses heart, the masses who are with out work, who see no work in the future. To the masses who have no hope but in him and the ANC who they voted for are doing nothing to change this desperate situation. In an ironic twist Malema is standing behind an old United States ideology , be it one seemingly long forgotten: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Unfortunately I think he is gathering these masses to him either through lies he believes, or lies he thinks the masses will believe. I sincerely hope it is the former. Nelson Mandella also thought that nationalization was a means to end poverty but when he was shown that in practice it leads to corruption and poverty. He changed his thoughts. It takes a truly great leader to change what he thought was right when confronted with a truth. I hope for the people who support Malema and all marginalized South Africans that he changes what he thinks. is right.

  • Tayla - 2011-08-30 15:06

    The ANC Youth League ppl r just being, as we call at school...sheeps. This means that they cannot think for themselves and have to have someone telling them what to believe and how to act . Julius is not exactly the best role model .. not by a long shot. People should never underestimate a large group of stupid people :| #true Story

      Enigma - 2011-08-30 15:47

      @Tayla. Stay at school. You need to learn more a lot more about the English language.

  • Verbatim - 2011-08-30 15:07

    Yep, thats what you get folks. I really hope there's chaos and anarchy in the streets. By my count, their own people will suffer far greater than anyone else. So ANCHOOLIGAN league, be true to your genepool and go ape....

  • Buic Unix - 2011-08-30 15:07

    How do this people support a person who has a job and they wont even have supper tonight yet all their energy is spent on a dude who lives in a high class suburb???

      Buic Unix - 2011-08-30 15:08

      Or could it be he paid them ???

      Manyoza - 2011-08-30 15:41

      BRAINWASHED BY BEING TOLD WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR AND BEING MADE PROMISES THAT CANNOT BE KEPT.

  • Colin - 2011-08-30 15:11

    And so it begins. It is a tragedy to see a party founded on hope and principles being reduced to this. Unfortunately President Zuma, what you sow, you reap. The chickens have alas come home to roost, as we all knew they eventually would.

      Muzi - 2011-08-30 15:12

      The sad reality is that chaos is the only leverage ANCYL supporters have to get attention. Similar to the unions representing gov employees. You see, if you are employed in the private sector your leverage is your absence from work which affects profits and put pressure on your employer to act on your grief... BUT, if ANCYL demonstrated peacefully and obeyed all the rules, the ANC would suspend Julius, He will join the peacefull demonstrators and no one will suffers & therefore no further action would be required. If a municipal worker does not report for work and have a peacefull strike and not litter, the municipal managers can wait a year as they don't loose a thing. Only poor taxpayers loose. It is the same as going to war. You know shooting and bombing is not a solution but you use it anyway to get some sort of leverage cause if you don't, an illigimate gov can complete a full term in office like its happening in Zim.... Its sad, but true...

  • Daemos1 - 2011-08-30 15:13

    Make the ANCYL foot the bill for all damages caused, it should be chump change for Mr. Malema

  • Deon - 2011-08-30 15:13

    "while some ANCYL supporters had clambered into trees for a better view." 'Nuff said.

  • AirAction - 2011-08-30 15:14

    This same youth wants JOBS .Nobody in the whole wide world is going to invest in SA anymore.

  • Maars - 2011-08-30 15:14

    Bring in the military - get rid of this undisciplined behaviour.......protests are fine but not at this level !

      Dmitri - 2011-08-30 15:19

      Our military is just as pathetic as this bunch of savages.

  • Jim - 2011-08-30 15:15

    The ANC created this and now it has come back to disgrace them and bite them. Lets see how they handle this one.

  • Bova007 - 2011-08-30 15:16

    Emotional maturity clearly lacking...ergo ANCYL = low IQ's.

  • Matthew - 2011-08-30 15:16

    Burn Luthuli House down, Burn it, C'mon we dare you

      Muzi - 2011-08-30 15:19

      OFFICIAL RECALL NOTICE CANCELLED SUBJECT – Julius Malema STAMP The Reported Problem: Stamp Was Not Sticking To Envelopes. Course of Action: The Premiers Office Allocated R1.5 Million To Test Stamp FINDINGS 1. The stamp is in perfect order. 2. There is nothing wrong with the adhesive 3. People are spitting on the wrong side.

  • Blade - 2011-08-30 15:20

    Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m8OnHC7dQ&feature=related

  • Thomas - 2011-08-30 15:22

    Come on SAPS, work these guys over..!

  • bobbythebozo - 2011-08-30 15:22

    Hmmm... I think you people are being short sighted. There is a very good reason why Julius' radical policies are so popular with the masses. Its because they still have nothing. And if progress is not made in that area soon we will indeed face a crisin on the scale of Egypt. And its not enough for us whities to sit back and tell them to work hard. There is a massive part of this population with almost no education, no financial structures, and most importantly, little to no hope. And as much as we might like to deny it that has as much to do with the past as it does with the last 18 years of ANC rule. The problem is not only a massive proportion of unemployed young people. There is an equal number of people that work there asses off in factories and mines around this country for 2 or 3k a month. Could anyone reading this article imagine supporting a family on 2 or 3k a month? How then, can we be surprised at the support for someone like Malema?

      cc - 2011-08-30 16:42

      Wise words spoken in 1931 You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it” Dr Adrian Rogers, 1931

  • Whoopi - 2011-08-30 15:22

    Why is it that no one has been arrested yet?

  • Siboniso - 2011-08-30 15:22

    malema has turned against the anc, i thing his gonna start his party soon, and that will be the bgn'n of his end.

  • Maars - 2011-08-30 15:22

    It is clear Malema is not a leader- he is only fueling a desire for richness.....that's all.....and after that they will look at the world like all African Countries do for....ehhhh help !

  • abg100 - 2011-08-30 15:22

    Too little too late. Anc dont have the balls to do anything concrete about it! Expect more of the same..its time decent citizens took action instead of waiting for a government to step up-they aint gonn!

  • Magnum - 2011-08-30 15:23

    Lets get ready to RUUUUMMMBBBLLLLEE!!!!!

  • Samaya - 2011-08-30 15:24

    "Some schoolchildren were shouting that they were not scared to fight for youth league leader Julius Malema" Shouldn't school children be in school? Why is JM not calling for children to be in school rather than nationalisation? Isn't that what the ANCYL is supposed to do? Or am missing something?

  • JimmyJAM - 2011-08-30 15:26

    The ANC’s failure to evolve into a democratic party has been fact passed as fiction for far too long. If the ANC has failed then so has the ANCYL, finding itself without a struggle, what’s one to do? Well start a new struggle! Africa is doomed to repeat this pathetic story over and over again; we have yet to do something meaningful with all we have. Now let’s see how long it will take for tribalism to show its head.

  • willieman - 2011-08-30 15:26

    Clearly the VUVUZELA AND HEARSAY POLITICS it is the order of the day in ANC in general.

  • patrickb - 2011-08-30 15:26

    History teaches us about the: Peasants Revolt of 1381, and the Peasants Revolt of 1525. Now we have the Revolting Peasants of 2011.

  • Scotsman - 2011-08-30 15:27

    So,Malema may be retried from the ANCYL,only to carry on with his illegal business activities,supported by the ones he now faces.Business as usual I think.Maybe there is a really BIG tender coming out soon that only Juilius can work on.

  • Scotsman - 2011-08-30 15:27

    retired!!

  • Daemos1 - 2011-08-30 15:28

    I'm going to start up a specialist business that cleans up after protests and demostrations. I'll expect that parties should be able to tell me how much damage they think thwey will be able to do, how many cars they will overturn, whether they need extra tyres to burn and how long they want the mess left behind as a testament to their might and superior intellect. I should make a killing at least twice a year who's with me???

  • zackie - 2011-08-30 15:28

    do the protesters get paid extra by juju for jumping on the nyala? or is it part of their package..

  • Thandi - 2011-08-30 15:28

    I winder if fatboy will be joining his mob outside Loot-freely house tomorrow to show support for dumb and dumber while he faces the wrist-slappers? I doubt it, not while there are rubber bullets flying around. He is after all such a yellow-bellied coward, hence his herd of bodyguards (aka thugs).

  • Chronoman - 2011-08-30 15:29

    "...some ANCYL supporters had clambered into trees for a better view."

  • Michael - 2011-08-30 15:30

    It is funny how these stupid people support the criminal robbing them behind their own backs!! Open your eyes!!!! Why are you supporting him - what has he ever done for you?? He has filled his own coffers stuff the rest!!

  • Joanne Wroblewski - 2011-08-30 15:31

    BWAHAHHAHAHA - "ANCYL supporters had clambered into trees for a better view"

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-08-30 15:33

    Let this regime reap what they have created !!!! Viva Anarchy

  • Tourmaline - 2011-08-30 15:33

    Is all this barbaric action necessary? Really? Just because of a disciplinary hearing that is totally justified?? And they wonder why they go backwards... really!!

  • Coconut - 2011-08-30 15:34

    Why use rubber bullets on these thugs. The time has come to start using brass and lead. The anarchy is just beginning and unless the government show its willingness to use force as they did on the AWB in Mafikeng the rule of law and order will disappear.

  • dikoloti - 2011-08-30 15:35

    a true sigh of lack of education and understanding from most of young pplae out there but what can we do now ANC has a major challlenge in bringning its pple to order is not a youth league matter but ANC matter and they should take full responsibilty,but by the look of things now they want to blame each other ol

  • G4E - 2011-08-30 15:36

    The irony is that the "masses" thought they would get "everything" from the ANC. When that did not happen (because even under ANC rule, most have to work for their income), they turned to the ANCYL. (Nationalisation, land grabs etc sounds about right for the "masses" !) When the ANCYL can't "produce", to whom/what will they turn? Goog old-fashioned "work for your money" ? I don't think!