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Press clubs must revisit membership - ANC

2012-05-06 18:59

Johannesburg - Press clubs must revisit their membership criteria and reflect on the role members should play, ANC Chief Whip Mathole Motshekga said on Sunday.

They should also "conduct a frank discussion on the desirability of having politicians as members", Motshekga said in a statement.

Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry Minister Tina Joemat-Pettersson was to address the Cape Town Press Club on Friday, but protested when she found out that DA MP Pieter van Dalen was there.

"Minister Joemat-Pettersson said she was under the impression that being invited to a press club meant addressing members of the media, not politicians," her adviser Rams Mabote said at the time.

Van Dalen, who is a paid up member of the press club, agreed to leave because he did not want to deny the audience the opportunity of hearing her speak.

Mabote said that had Joemat-Pettersson known it would be a political event, she would have attended in her capacity as member of the African National Congress's national executive and national working committees.

He said it appeared that Van Dalen wanted to capitalise on the briefing to continue a disagreement the two had during her budget vote speech on Thursday.

Politicking

On Sunday, Motshekga said that if Joemat-Pettersson had been called on to address politicians, she would have done so.

"It is unusual and unheard of that a media conference should be turned into a space for oppositional politicking rather than a platform for engagement with the media," Motshekga said.

"The minister's insistence that the event adhere to its core objectives was therefore reasonable."

He said care should be taken to ensure that clubs' events did not become political battlegrounds, and they should not be abused for a particular political agenda.

The media was capable and competent enough to hold the government to account and did not need the assistance of opposition politicians.

After Friday's incident, National Press Club chair Yusuf Abramjee said the minister's conduct "smacks of arrogance and this nonsense must stop".

Uncalled for

He said he would not have allowed Joemat-Pettersson to address the meeting if she was not prepared to speak in front of Van Dalen, and that it was "disrespectful" of her to use the public platform provided by the Cape Town Press club for "petty politicking".

Cape Town Press Club chair Donwald Pressley found it surprising that "an elected politician and servant of the entire electorate is unable to take the heat of probing questions from whatever quarter".

Motshekga said this reaction was "extremely uncalled for and disturbing".

Comments
  • antoinette.jordaan - 2012-05-06 19:11

    Wow. THIS makes sense?

      Press - 2012-05-06 19:42

      Yeepers - can you imagine what Tima Joemat-Petterrson would have done with her toys if they discovered an unregistered an non-paid up civilian in the audience . . .

      StormerHJ - 2012-05-06 20:43

      Van Dalen is a member of the Press Club and could thus attend the meeting without asking permission to anybody. Its seem that Tina and the ANC is very much afraid of the DA.

      Zip - 2012-05-06 20:51

      press clubs are not for politicking but boozing. ask pettersen why she travelled abroad 19 times in one year, mostly with president zuma.

      kayley.segal - 2012-05-06 22:28

      CORRECTED STORY: Johannesburg - The ANC must revisit their membership criteria and reflect on the role members should play, The Voice of Reason said on Sunday. They should also "conduct a frank discussion on the desirability of having criminals as members", Reason said in a statement. He said care should be taken to ensure that government events did not become financial playgrounds, and they should not be abused for a particular financial agenda.

      adrien.mcguire - 2012-05-07 13:18

      And what about the Black Business Forum and our friend Jimmy Manye? What a load of BS

  • Lacrimose - 2012-05-06 19:19

    ANC must revisit their membership. We the people would also like a frank discussion on the desirability of some of their members

      Stirer - 2012-05-07 06:09

      don't you think that would lead to the "politicizing" the ANC? Good grief! ONE of the audience is also a politician, so it turns the whole event into a political meeting? Some politicians are lawyers, does that turn parliament into a court case?

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-05-06 19:26

    and we all know how much the anc hates a press that won't kowtow to it.

  • Bill - 2012-05-06 19:37

    Oh I see! Now politicians will decide who may belong to what organisation? A bit like the Hitler Jugend and the Bund of Deutsche Madchen superseded all other youth organisations? A political party decides who may be a member of a private club? This is the democracy so many struggled to achieve and for which so many died?

  • Piet - 2012-05-06 19:50

    Do not worry ANC cadres, as soon as you have learned how to read you may also join the Press Club.

  • pws69 - 2012-05-06 19:50

    It's cool. She will never be invited again, and she has made enemies of them, so, just like Carte Blanche right now, we are going to see lots more investigations into her department.

  • Sharon - 2012-05-06 20:01

    I think when she saw Van Dalen there, she nearly swallowed her own tongue!

  • Erna - 2012-05-06 20:36

    Think the ANC is just peed off that they didn't join the Press Club! Think that the minister for a women in her position should have handled it more diplomatically. But hey, we're talking about the ANC here - none of them are qualified for the job.

      Glyn - 2012-05-07 10:17

      Spell anc in lower case letters. Upper case gives them undeserved status! Vote DA to solve the anc problem!

  • Erna - 2012-05-06 20:37

    Think the ANC is just peed off that they didn't join the Press Club! Think that the minister for a women in her position should have handled it more diplomatically. But hey, we're talking about the ANC here - none of them are qualified for the job.

  • Slick - 2012-05-06 20:39

    Read this MR ANC Chief Whip. READ and TAKE NOTE!! The Minister talks about routing out corruption and fraud etc etc. MADAM MINISTER. YOU ARE A BLATANT LIAR! Why don't you tell the public YOU AND YOUR Department are part of the Heinous Cabal in Government facing a Claim in excess of R400 Million. Which was registered in Middle of 2011 with the NCC. That she and her Department have also been reported to the Public Protector for investigation. This for allowing Astronomical Fraud, Corruption, Collusion and Health Abuses against the unsuspecting public. Regarding either NON COMPLIANT AND OR INCORRECTLY MARKED,LABELED AND DECLARED FOOD AND BEVERAGE PRODUCTS THAT ARE ADVERTISED,MARKETED AND SOLD ON THE SOUTH AFRICAN MARKET. This for more years than can even be guessed at! Her Department has been challenged to a Public Debate since 2010 but REFUSE to attend. REFUSE to inform the public as to what as been exposed and continues to be exposed by a MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. Whose every complaint lodged against the DAFF has been validated by her very own dysfunctional, despicable, immoral & unethical department. AS CORRECT! DENY THE ABOVE, MADAM MINISTER.... I DARE YOU!! The public WILL soon be made aware and hopefully a massive percentage of these unsuspecting population will realize and comprehend what has been occurring against them and continues to occur against them UNABATED. Likewise WILL bring about the biggest CIVIL uproar and uprising South Africa has EVER KNOWN!

      Phae - 2012-05-06 22:21

      Wow this sounds pretty major, hope the lid gets blown off real soon for ours and our childrens health.

      Phae - 2012-05-06 22:23

      Wow this sounds pretty major, hope the lid gets blown off real soon.

      Slick - 2012-05-07 08:15

      @Phae. Rest assured it WILL be. This is not sensationalism. Its all Truth about what has and is occurring. So yes rest assured, the Public WILL be informed in the very near future. The Minister knows what is coming. As do the Ministers of the DTI, Health, Commissioner of the NCC /CPA and the State President via his office. In fact so serious/heinous this matter that various leading Media Companies are running petrified to place it in print, for reasons only known to themselves. WHY? The proof has been afforded them. Proof validated by the F&B Regulating Departments concerned themselves. One reason given.... the Government Officials and Departments refuse to respond to questions or validate what they have been made aware of....What does this tell you?? Glaringly obvious to me ...the Media Companies are colluding with the Government to hide the serious issues from the public! Again WHY? It doesn't take you to be a rocket scientist to work it out....FINANCIAL GREED AND PROSPERITY for the chosen few while the majority of the population suffer the HEINOUS AND DIRE consequences!

  • tnmunyai - 2012-05-06 20:52

    I believe that Van Dalen was not there for a good purpose. He was there to pay the press club to report bad about ANC. That is how the DA do to destroy the ANC. About 90% of the press clubs are controlled by DA. Amen.

      Shannon - 2012-05-06 21:00

      Seriously???? Blah blah!

      Slick - 2012-05-06 21:34

      HAHA! Tnmunyai..Seen she wont speak at Press Clubs or other forums where she can be exposed and challenged on.. TRUTH,HONESTY,MORALS & ETHICS. WHATS SHE HIDING? KNOW this. I dont need the DA or a Press Club TO EXPOSE YOUR precious ANC and sweet Minister of DAFF. Your precious ANC WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE TO ME in the first instance and the rest of the unsuspecting population whether living or dead. IS THERE NOT A STATEMENT/SLOGAN BY ONE OF THE ANC ALLIANCE PARTNERS THAT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE .."A INJURY TO ONE IS A INJURY TO ALL"?? A message you may want to pass on to your ANC cadres and Your DAFF Minister.. Her time to answer has run out. She has NO where to run and NO where to hide... She and her department and fellow Governmental Food Regulatory Departments time to CHEAT,STEAL, DEFRAUD, CORRUPT,COLLUDE AND ABUSE unsuspecting citizens is OVER....OVERR!! These are FOOD AND BEVERAGE PRODUCTS DAMIT, THAT EFFECT AND AFFECT PEOPLES LIVES IN SO SO MANY WAYS DAILY. MANY HORRENDOUSLY AND DIRELY. ITS NOT JUST ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS.THAT UNSUSPECTING CITIZENS FACE BY WHAT THE MINISTER HAS AND IS ALLOWING DAILY AND UNABATED. HOW LOW/FAR WILL THIS CORRUPT, HEINOUS, DESPICABLE, DEPLORABLE, UNETHICAL AND IMMORAL GOVERNMENT STOOP IN DESTROYING THE POPULATION. HOW LOW/FAR? IS THIS THE GOVERNMENT YOU SUPPORT AND WILL LIVE AND DIE FOR, TNMUNYAI? BTW..TAKE YOUR / THE ANC SECRECY AND INFORMATION BILL AND SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE. I WILL NEVER BE SILENCED. NEVER!!

      Lerato - 2012-05-07 01:02

      He's the shadow master

      Nigel - 2012-05-07 08:19

      Indlovu, liberate yourself & learn the truth, don't believe the lies that the ANC vomits, free yourself from this dictatorship.

  • Zahir - 2012-05-06 20:58

    the minister is unable to answer basic questions then she should vacate her post not behave like a spoilt brat

  • Adil Smit - 2012-05-06 21:48

    If you accept an invitation to address the press club, you should be able to handle people disagreeing with you.

      Adil Smit - 2012-05-06 21:52

      She also did not want to speak to Carte Blanche about the fishing tender scandal. Can't help wondering how she will deal with the plan to " woo" Afrikaans voters - she is one of the ministers assigned to help with that.

      Lerato - 2012-05-07 00:06

      Mandela himself didn't get their vote! what's so special about the current ANC, they must concentrate on their current electorate. That's just like me applying to join AWB

      Adil Smit - 2012-05-07 00:34

      Nelson Mandela would prob have acknowledge his opposition's presence and then delivered a great speech and answered difficult questions with a touch of humour as well.

      Lerato - 2012-05-07 00:49

      She acknowledged the opposition's presence; that's why she asked the shadow minister to leave

  • Lerato - 2012-05-07 06:09

    Maybe she mistook the Hon Shadow Minister van Dalen for that DA child porn perv Councillor

      Peter - 2012-05-07 13:03

      Arseh*le...

  • Bzeng - 2012-05-07 06:47

    I love S.A politics. What was the speech about? I guess it was not worth listening to because it didnt make headlines. NB!!Ministers should think before reacting.

  • Nigel - 2012-05-07 08:12

    The ANC must revisit it incompetence & intolerance -lying, cheating thieves

  • Glyn - 2012-05-07 08:59

    The anc has lost the plot! Democracy is about FREEDOM! Now they are discriminating agains politicians??!! Ha! Ha!

  • CliveK - 2012-05-07 09:07

    My goodness me, now the ANC wants to prescribe to clubs who they must and must not accept as members. Sounds like apartheid again. And all because little Tina - a totally clueless minister (like several others), as shown in last night's Carte Blanche - threw her toys out of her cot. We really are becoming the laughing stock of the world; but perhaps I over-estimate our place in the greater scheme of things, as the rest of the world probably doesn't give a toss about us since JZ cheated his way to the throne. Just another African disaster.

      Slick - 2012-05-07 10:34

      @ Clive. The Dear Minister is actually a COMMUNIST PARTY MEMBER..As is Minister Blade Nzimande - Higher Education and Minister Rob Davies- Dept Trade and Industry amongst others like Gwede Mantashe in the ANC Alliance and GOVERNMENT. NOTICE THE COMMUNISTS HEAD UP 3 OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DEPARTMENTS IN GOVERNMENT. THESE BEING: EDUCATION, TRADE AND INDUSTRY, AGRICULTURE AND FISHERIES. Not to mention all the other SACP members that hold high positions within the Government. Their philosophy in life is as per her/their leader, STALIN....CONTROL,DIVIDE AND CONQUER THE POPULATION. DENY THEM THE RIGHT TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THE GOVERNMENT APPROVES. WHICH IS ACTUALLY NOTHING!! AND PEOPLE THINK SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT A COMMUNIST COUNTRY?? A communist country with ever deepening ties TO RUSSIA, CHINA, IRAN, NORTH KOREA, CUBA and the rest. WAKE UP PEOPLE...COMMUNISM IS FULLY ENTRENCHED IN SOUTH AFRICA AND THE REST OF THE MODERN WORLD KNOW THIS.HENCE MINIMAL INTEREST. No truer the following statement for the Dear Minister and her colleagues to take note of. "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny". Thomas Jefferson Be WARNED MADAM MINISTER. TYRANNY AND COMMUNISM HAS NEVER BEEN ACCEPTED AS A WAY OF LIFE IN THE MODERN WORLD! DO IT...ANC as a Political Party ..DROP YOUR ALLIANCE AND SEE WHERE YOU END UP!! I Challenge You. DO IT!

  • Danie - 2012-05-07 10:04

    Propose new Membership criteria, pitch black only allowed?

      Slick - 2012-05-07 10:39

      LOL Danie very true... But wait even Pik Botha is now a ANC puppet... So what do we call him now?? PIK SWART! (pitch black) LOL!

  • Loo - 2012-05-07 14:44

    AG Mathole .. blow it out your #ss why don't you ..ridicilous. Thats the ANC way of putting a spin on it ???!! LOL

  • Manu - 2012-05-07 17:37

    By their actions and their values a citizenry define the kind of politicians they get. Looking at the comments here I can't imagine why you should expect anything decent from your politicians. If you yourself cannot be decent and honest then whatmore of politicians whose moral anchors are sometimes as light as a feather? Always finger pointing instead of dealing with the issue at hand, and then expecting politicians to be forthright. eh? Motshekga makes a good point, politicians have no business being members of press clubs. It's a quite nonsensical situation. Afterall isn't this the same reason people are against the info bill? Now a mature, decent and honest human being will say, "The man has a point" and leave it at that, without going off on a tangent. Such a person will be laying the foundation for good conduct. But how can you lay a foundation for good conduct when your sense of right and wrong blows with the wind?

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