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Public coughs up R180m+ to house ministers

2011-08-22 16:09

Cape Town - Houses bought to accommodate ministers and deputy ministers following President Jacob Zuma's 2009 Cabinet reshuffle cost taxpayers more than R180m, according to a written reply to a parliamentary question, tabled on Monday.

The reply, by Public Works Minister Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde, reveals that her department spent R183 886 837 on a total of 34 houses in Pretoria and Cape Town for ministers and their deputies over the past two years.

"[In] Pretoria, 15 houses were purchased by the department since 2009 to date; in Waterkloof and Moreleta (Pretoria East). The total amount for all purchased properties is R68 195 116.

"[In] Cape Town, 19 houses were purchased by the department since 2009 to date... The total amount for all purchased properties is R115 691 721," she said.

Dividing the total amount spent by the number of houses gives an average price of R5.4m per dwelling.

In his question to Parliament, Democratic Alliance MP Erik Marais asked, among other things, for the "total purchase price in rands of each specified house purchased" for the additional ministers and deputy ministers.

In her reply, Mahlangu-Nkabinde gave totals for only the two cities.

Comments
  • ReThan - 2011-08-22 16:15

    Nice.

      debrakayestylist - 2011-08-22 16:28

      Like "Moeletsi Mbeki on Facebook" to get rid of these thieves

      debrakayestylist - 2011-08-22 16:31

      "Moeletsi Mbeki FOR President " on facebook sorrreee

      Richie - 2011-08-22 16:32

      You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give anything to anybody that it does not first take from someone else......that my dear friends is just about the end of a nation. YOU CANNOT MULTIPLY WEALTH BY DIVIDING IT. Dr. Adrian Rogers 1931.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-22 16:37

      The entire country should go on strike...tax strike!

      Jelly - 2011-08-22 16:49

      And to think they want whites to pay extra wealth tax for apartheid sins... Bastards!!!!

      WHITE MAN - 2011-08-22 16:54

      THE QUESTION REMAINS>>>>> KAN HULLE BRAAIBROOTJIES MAAK????

      RedData - 2011-08-22 19:53

      The next question.... what does it cost the public (in total) to have these ministers. I am almost certain that they do not pay for a single expense out of their salaries. Another sad fact is that the masses have no idea how much a million is or even R50000

      k1dbl4ck - 2011-08-22 21:26

      R115 691 721 / 19 = R6 089 037.95 per house. not nice.

      Gazza69 - 2011-08-23 08:15

      70% of tax payers didn't even vote for this lot, now we have to support them financially.....democracy???

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-23 09:39

      That's an average of R6-million per house. I wonder how people feel in shacks where the ANC can't build them an RDP house for a few tens of thousands. And R6m - WTF - what are they buying, mansions?!

  • Man.Dumisani - 2011-08-22 16:15

    How much longer with South Africans continue to vote for the ANC who steal money from our people ??? CORRUPTION IS KILLING OUR COUNTRY

      Mr. Fusion - 2011-08-22 16:28

      The problem is that most ANC voters think the money comes from government and when they run low, they just print some more. They have no idea that the money comes from working tax paying citizens who generally don't vote for the ANC

      Kiepies - 2011-08-22 16:50

      So much for downgraded EDUKASHYN (not education) because that is how its being pronounced nowadays, but let me not continue, otherwise I will be tarred and feathered by certain individuals, but thank God I am not sitting on the fence believing in either right or left....!!!

      WHITE MAN - 2011-08-22 16:55

      NO SHIT!!!!

      BigMoose - 2011-08-22 17:32

      Tell TUTU. He's making a noise about a "guilt tax." These bastards have no shame and feel F***all for the poor.

      cliffarc - 2011-08-22 17:46

      - And poloyatonki, how do you feel sitting in your R50,000 RDP house ?

      Tony - 2011-08-22 18:18

      I was told by a wise friend that we are in Africa, and you will not change the greed of a few voted into power, as they are there for what they can gain personally. How many politicians really are "public servants"? If it happens elsewhere why would it be different in this still primitive culture, it will take many generations of proper education before attitudes change - not in my life-time. What a waste of a beautiful country with so much potential! There are too many simple-minded voters - grin and bear it I'm afraid.

  • MandlaSithole - 2011-08-22 16:16

    We've been coughing up so much I'd swear this whole country had TB. ANC ministers buying houses in a city that is not run by them... Whats the message there? Cape is the place to be.

      voltaire - 2011-08-22 16:27

      The message is Cape Town is where parliament is

      Cynix - 2011-08-22 16:36

      Good place to start your collection campaign Arch - you can't hide the prosperity!

      maneki - 2011-08-23 09:11

      It is to be closer to parliament. And one would hope that they would, living in a city that works, try to duplicate that model onto their own cities. If the ANC would run their provices and cities like the DA runs the Western Cape, honest, transparant, this country could really be great. And yes, before all the racists of the ANC comment on the Madam and her city, we KNOW that there are still major issues facing the Western Cape too, but at least they are trying. The ANC is not even trying anymore, no scratch that, they are all trying. trying to steal as much as they can before they are kicked out.

      amos - 2011-08-24 22:17

      Guess who sold these houses to the govt? Were the prices inflated? Was there any under the counter dealing?

  • Slapper - 2011-08-22 16:16

    We are cursed with an unbelievably greedy and corrupt leadership. Elsewhere in the World, they would get a 4x2 cell.

      Peter - 2011-08-23 05:30

      Obviously the ANC rulers have not heard about Tunisia, Egypt or even Libya. That's why they want African solutions for African problems. The corrupt must stay in power in a government of national unity. Anywhere else in the world they would go where murderers and criminals go - to jail. African solutions for African problems is a way to get the corrupt safely away with their money and the ANC supports this because they will need the benefit someday

      croix - 2011-08-23 06:02

      Greed is the SCOURGE of Africa amongst the 'Hyeanaensis Elitus' !!! The sad part is that African leaders are IDOLISED. You cannot change the nature of the beast.

  • TJG - 2011-08-22 16:18

    Disgusting. How much more proof do people need to see the self enrichment taking place. Got to ask how many RDP houses would the R183 886 837 have bought for the homeless?

      Man.Dumisani - 2011-08-22 16:21

      I ask the same questions. How much proof? I think the poor masses want to see how much their ANC can steal. It's crazy!

      jakkals - 2011-08-22 17:04

      the masses need pictures... R180 mil = x amount of RDP houses. As in a full page(s) of all the RDP houses it could finance. the ANC is keeping the uneducated, uneducated for a reason.

      AA - 2011-08-22 17:09

      And I bet these are not the average house either, probably pretty nice digs. Also what about secuirty for these places, ministers cars so they can be carted back and fourth, drivers. Also who takes care of the maintenance, electricty and water - probably the tax payer too.

      AA - 2011-08-22 17:15

      @Man. This is been a long standing problem, one legacy of the Aparthied government the ANC chose not to change.The entire parlimentary rule book needs to be re-written. The question is, will any party that is in power be willing to do this, including the DA ? The general population needs to show there dissaproval of this financial squandering. Have you seen how people in India are protesting against corruption. The same thing needs to happen in South Africa, people need to realise that in a democracy they can voice their dissaproval of something.

      Dewet - 2011-08-22 19:04

      @AA Yes, blame it on apartheid. South Africa had the most western influence in Africa. Ethiopia the least. Have you been to Ethipia? Maybe then you'll stop blaming the imperialists that has done you such terrible injustice

      Dewet - 2011-08-22 19:06

      The other huge difference is the apartheid government took care of their own people, that is what is so shocking about the ANC, it parasites on it's own

      AA - 2011-08-22 22:11

      Dewet. Sorry, not sure how you get i was blaming the previous government. South Africa has always had this problem of ministers having to have two residences and this is something government should reconsider. Ministers should pay for their own houses, cars and perks just like everyone else. However it is a fact that these policies existed prior to 1994 and this is something the current government should have changed as part of their fiscal responsibility to the country. Unfortunately fiscal responsibility is something the government is notoriously poor at. By the way the Apartheid government only took care of a very small minority of South Africans; it was an illegitimate and illegal government to begin with. The way they treated the majority of South Africans was sickening and their policies can never be defended.

      Netherlands - 2011-08-22 22:50

      RDP house costs in the region of R20 000-00.....

      croix - 2011-08-23 06:08

      The next matter to also investigate would be the REFURBISHMENT of each of those properties purchased. "You know, it HAS to be 'PERSONALISED'". I'm so sick of this!

      maneki - 2011-08-23 09:19

      Can we really blame the uneducated? They do not understand that this R180 million is actually paid for with their money. If they did understand that they would certainly be angry. The moment it touches them directly, they get angry, strike, burn tyres, destroy cars, etc. Just look at the municipal strike, or any taxi strike, or any strike for that matter. The moment it directly touches their pockets, all hell brakes loose. If people understood the impact of these wastages of tax money, there would be hell to pay. But the truth is, they don't. And the ANC knows this and exploit it as much as possible. That is why they are not bothered to educate people. Because educated people will see right through them. Problem is, people are starting to catch up. Slowly but surely. And the ANC knows this too. They know that they are losing grip. So they fuel racial hatred to try and hold onto it a little longer. And they now steal as much as they can without even really bothering to hide it, because they know it won't last forever. The ANC's biggest enemy is its voters. They just don't know it yet.

  • Stephan Janse van Vuuren - 2011-08-22 16:19

    How many RDP houses is that? It is a real pity the citizens that vote for cANCer are completely uninformed and/or illiterate.

      The_Lil_Wizard - 2011-08-22 17:37

      Well considering a RDP house, 1 RDP house of between 18m² and 23m² (one bedroom and a combined lounge, kitchenette and toilet) is said to cost the government up to R53000. Therefore each of the ministers, by themselves, could house 100 families each! Nice to know that 3500 homes could have been built for people that can't afford housing, while these guys are paid a ample salary to afford their own house, and they still each take a house or 2 for free!

  • Adriaan - 2011-08-22 16:19

    But their braddas and sistas are dying of hunger in a radius of less than 25km in both cities. Lucky for them, they would still be voted for in the coming elections by the same dying crowd [if the same are still alive]. Why?

  • George - 2011-08-22 16:24

    How many shacks has the government destroyed? How many houses, water, electricity, free education has government provided for the needy? How many jobs have they created. We are in the midst of serious looting. This is shameful at best. School children in the EC attend schools under the trees. Hospitals are falling apart due to a lack of funds while governmenmt bosses spend hundreds of millions on luxurious consumption. Oh Africa my motherland, what has befallen thee....Thy parasites feed on thy corpse. Thy parasites promised to breath in air into the corpse and revive it, yet they are ripping its internal organs in a shameful Nero orgy of corrupt feasting.....i cry for thy beloved motherland.

  • SOMEONE123 - 2011-08-22 16:26

    In the land of the blind, the zuma is king! Why give voting right to illiterate masses - if you don’t pay tax, you don’t have a say in the running of the country - pity the big fools know they will be OUT before saying "tender"!

      Kiepies - 2011-08-22 16:53

      Wish I could give you a thousand and one votes and thumbs up!!!

      Virginia - 2011-08-23 09:56

      SOMEONE123 Exactly why do you think the previous government stayed in so long, take away the rights of the people, and I do think that people who do not pay tax should not vote for government.

  • Enis - 2011-08-22 16:27

    No wonder the Old Age Homes have had their subsidies reduced, shameful this is

  • Dal68 - 2011-08-22 16:28

    When will this end? Should start revolting against this regime...

  • izzy - 2011-08-22 16:29

    NICE, we pay and the stay for FREE.... Holly Shit people open your eyes they are steeling your tax money and pulling our economy down ….

  • McDaNife - 2011-08-22 16:29

    Wow thats where my money is gone to, robbing the poor to finance the rich

  • Barry - 2011-08-22 16:29

    The gravy train is lekker. What about the other Provinces where houses were built.? This figure could easily top 1 billion rand

  • Tresia - 2011-08-22 16:31

    Oh golly miss molly, that can build houses for some many OTHER deserving South Africans!!!

  • Bokkie 36 - 2011-08-22 16:32

    That's probably why my old age grant was reduced by R115. To pay for all those fancy houses! Hahaha!

  • Sir Eidolon - 2011-08-22 16:34

    That's more than R5mil per house. Nice one.

  • RVQ - 2011-08-22 16:34

    This information needs to be delivered to the townships using large scale images of the lavish lifestyles of these ministers...

      Craigr - 2011-08-22 21:41

      ... and what's the bet that not all the Ministers passed matric.

      croix - 2011-08-23 06:13

      Craigr - Or got the job with a FALSE Qualification??

  • tailormade - 2011-08-22 16:36

    Ironically, the cost of buying these houses are the least of the taxpayers' worries. Wait until these houses need "urgent" renovations (read: sarcasm) in 3 years' time. You can then easily add another 100mil to the amount. And three years later...another 100mil. It's a vicious cycle! By the time these houses need to be sold again, it'll never be sold for a profit....because all of those renovations were done on the back of inflated tenders.

  • Odie - 2011-08-22 16:39

    R5,400,000.00 average each... That is a BARGAIN!!! It cost R108,000.00 per meter to upgrade the highways. Seeing that each of these modest dwellings would have a front boundary wall of at least 50m that means they cost the same (50m x R108,000.00 =R5,400,000.00). It is the equivalent to these poor ministers are living on the street. We really should not complain.

      Odie - 2011-08-22 16:51

      Oh hold on, I made a mistake. R108k was to upgrade an existing road. These houses were bought outright.

  • Coconut - 2011-08-22 16:41

    This amount obviously does not include the cost of revamping the house to suit the ministers/deputy minister. For that we must probably add another R100mil. Absolute thieve, the whole lot of the cANCer comrades. Why do they not spend the money building house for the poor??????

  • Bankai - 2011-08-22 16:41

    Its a pity Black won't vote for DA but this is pure bullcrab

  • OZNOB - 2011-08-22 16:42

    I THOUGHT THAT WAS TO HOUSE THE POOR AND HOMELESS OBVIOUSLY I WAS WRONG.I THINK THEY HAVE A SHARING AND CARING ATTITUDE - JA CARE FOR ONESELF AND SHARE EVERYONE ELSES WEALTH

  • Ellie - 2011-08-22 16:42

    And how much does an RDP house cost, just keep voting !!!

  • Davearch - 2011-08-22 16:43

    Party of the POOR !! Ha Ha What a sick joke ...

  • simon - 2011-08-22 16:46

    And not a toot out of Tutu ...........

  • Graham Carruthers - 2011-08-22 16:46

    Over 5 million per house!!!!!!

  • Gail - 2011-08-22 16:47

    Reading all these comments, surely those in government should hang their heads in shame. Don't these people have ANY sense of decency?? There are people out there with NO houses, No jobs, hardly able to feed their kids - but these greedy pigs grab everything for themselves so that they can live a life of luxury while their "brothers" suffer like this....sies man!!!!

      croix - 2011-08-23 06:21

      Simon - Dementia maybe setting in our Arch's brain? Gail - A physiological impossibility to blush - thus no shame. Sies indeed!

  • marisa.cronje - 2011-08-22 16:48

    I think we should have a 'ministers tax' to benefit all the people who suffer under the ANC govt.

  • WHITE MAN - 2011-08-22 16:50

    NAAIERS

  • Stevie - 2011-08-22 16:52

    I am sure Pretoria zoo would have been much cheaper, why not get a quote?

  • Harvey - 2011-08-22 16:52

    Does the SABC cover this sort of story? (Maladministration, corruption, excessive spending) I’ve been out of the country for a while and I’m curious to know if the stories are reaching the average man on the street.

      croix - 2011-08-23 06:21

      No

  • RacingShark - 2011-08-22 16:58

    I was going to defend the ANC but thought for a moment. R5.m average a house. Could they not settle for maybe a R2m house per person and that that R3m and reinvest in the economy. Lets see, if you take 60% of 180m which is about R108m, take that and build hospitals and schools or how about developing the rural areas further. Start business or a "business start up scheme" to grow the economy.

  • AntiRacist - 2011-08-22 17:04

    Absolutely disgusting, How many homeless people could benefit from this??? They will all answer for it one day! I feel for the really poor people, imagine the frustration they must feel when they hear this (If they ever hear of it) and they cant keep warm or dry, Sick is the only word for it!

      edalsg - 2011-08-22 17:15

      Be reasonable --these ministers need somewhere to safely park their R1.5M cars .

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-08-22 17:06

    I really do not get this, MP's get paid a damn good salary, but they are not expected to cover their own living costs? Do me a favour and cry me a river with the excuse that MP's have to have at least 2 house in SA (in CPT and JHB), their excessive salaries more than make up that cost. The big question is why! why are we paying for these houses?

  • Shorts1 - 2011-08-22 17:17

    Self-indulgent scum.

  • keng - 2011-08-22 17:19

    Don't know why everyone is so behind the times. Do you know that every event at those houses is also paid for by the taxpayer. Ministers throw numerous parties at their places each costing hundreds of thousands of rands. You will find that the average Minister goes through so much money entertaining guests to make the 5 million look cheap.

  • shiraazz - 2011-08-22 17:54

    Do we have 180 ministers with 1 million rand houses?

      jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 14:58

      More like 5mil rand houses ! Its disgusting. Damn the cANCer ministers , save the South Africa rand.

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-08-22 17:57

    Government is already bloated and overloaded with fat,corrupt,incompetent comrades. Well,JZ certainly knows how to waste taxpayers money on his cronies!

  • Stirer - 2011-08-22 18:01

    That's only the purchase price. What about the inevitable renovations, furnishings, re-landscaped gardens, additional security and ongoing maintenance costs.

  • haveyoursay - 2011-08-22 18:09

    It is not as if we have any choice in this matter. All the spendthrift ministers are aided and abetted by the famous "ministers handbook" So according to current legislation it does not matter if there is money or not.

  • lerato sekati - 2011-08-22 18:13

    i agree this is unacceptable.too much. but i find your comments about black people insulting.yal are no different from the tax thieves... obviously. Thats all :)

      croix - 2011-08-23 06:26

      Lerato se Gatti - PISSi OFFi !!

      jody.beggs - 2011-11-24 15:01

      The comments are about corrupt officials that happen to be black !If its not about race why use AA , BEE ? Damn the black corrupt officials in the cANCer , Save the South African White.

      Jason - 2011-12-07 10:11

      Lerato - f*ck off!! Your stupid comments make you no different from those thieving bastards. Show me one white person who is as corrupt as these thieving c*nts - yeah thats what I thought.

  • Peter - 2011-08-22 18:19

    JA BOET. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A POLITITION BLUSH?

  • Sadsack - 2011-08-22 18:44

    Wow! An average of R4,5mil for a house in Pta and R6,089mil for a house in Cpt! No wonder everyone wants to be a politician! And we have how many homeless ppl in RSA? Public servants my ass!They should kiss my lilly white ass for paying my taxes so that these fat 'pigs' can live in style! And I'm priviledged cause I'm white! You ppl make me sick!

  • Eidel - 2011-08-22 19:53

    That is the cost to purchase. Now the cost to upgrade, security and not to mention the lavish decorations such as furniture, curtains ect.

  • StoneAngel - 2011-08-22 20:17

    I know of three houses that I often walk past which are used by ministers - they are never occupied - I know that because there is only one policeman on guard duty - the policemen have told me that there are more on duty when the minister is in residence - they are probally staying at some up market hotel down the road!!

  • braamc - 2011-08-22 20:58

    They vote them in. I hope these thieving criminals rot in hell

  • punkprincess - 2011-08-22 21:02

    OMG - I HOPE THE ACCOUNTANT AND TREASURER CANT COUNT

  • braamc - 2011-08-22 21:50

    Gwen Lindiwe Mahlangu-Nkabinde - The biggest f?%22 thieving bitch

  • lapfa - 2011-08-23 01:27

    Thats toooo much now. Shuldnt this money be used on education and skills development like japan did and are now reaping the rewards of their efforts.